tfw you realize all of the age verification and identity verification is because advertisers want to verify they aren't paying for AI crawlers. AI is ruining everything. AI is eating hardware. AI is eating the anonymous internet.
>>108437631>muh AI"""People""" as retarded as this get to vote.
>>108437631no, it's not because of that, it's because powers to be realized 35 years later they didn't want an anonimouse internet.
>>108437631>Your latest userbase growth may just be botsGrim, Digg was a wake up call for me, dead internet wasn't just a theory anymore.
>>108437631>AI is eating hardwarethis doesn't affect me
>>108437631How much does it cost to send a letter? $0.50? Just mail a secure code to their physical address. Messing with that system becomes a federal crime. >muh street addresswe give it to companies on most signups and its public knowledge anyway
>>108437746>How much does it cost to send a letter? $0.50?More like $5 all included.>muh street addresswe give it to companies on most signupsNo we sure don't. We only give that to ecommerce that send shit and then it's not even verifiably us, it could be a gift for a friend.The real solution is including a code with vodka bottles or selling a scratch-off card with one time code only for 21+, the clerk will see your ID but he doesn't know the code so impossible to track your identity. But this will never be done because it's cheap, easy and privacy-preserving.
>>108437631no. it's because if you want to sell user data to ai companies they won't buy it unless you can verify that your users are real humans and not ai bots.
>>108437631>it snot a trying to anonymize the internet problem>its an ai problemare you retarded op
>>108437746>we give it to companies on most signupsNo? The only websites I ever entered my address into are amazon and ebay.>its public knowledge anywayIs that a thing in Muttlandia?
>>108437922>including a code with vodka bottles or selling a scratch-off card with one time code only for 21+but couldn't you just buy multiple bottles? if the goal is to suppress bots
It's because it will be a huge benefit for both advertising and other data collection to have one, even two new data points.Verified age data is very valuable for advertising since it shows what your likely income is and what kind of products you are interested in (20-30, travel, fun, 30-40, child items, 40-60 gardening/woodworking/knitting). This is huge because previously age has been super easy to fake and many put a fake one.There's now one data point that you can't change, that divides the possible other accounts/fingerprints by 50. Before there was 100 reddit alts that matched your typing style, now it's just 2. Before there was 25 not-logged-in pornhub users that matches your instagram fingerprint, now it's just one, you.The final datapoint of you being human-like is big and valuable too obviously.Secondarily it takes the burden of age verification which SocMed like meta and reddit already needs to do by law to collect data or show NSFW, they now get that responsibility passed on.>because advertisers want to verify they aren't paying for AI crawlersThis is already pretty easy to verify, all the major ones identify themselves.>>108438048Suppressing black market bots is very different from AI crawlers. Black hat bots won't crawl or matter for advertising much. But yes, you could get multiple, but it's impossible to do privacy-safe age verification without that problem.
advertising is too big to fail
every day i pray for TOTAL ADVERTISER DEATH (TAD) but god won't respond and i think that's proof enough that god is dead and demiurge reigns supreme
>>108438090my experience with AI crawlers identifying themselves is that if you block them they come back anonymized.
> ai crawlers ruin reddit> ai takes our jobs> ai bla bla blathus, give me yer passport!
>>108437631you mean ads ruin everything
why is there an expectation of privacy on the web if there is no such thing in real life?you can't expect to walk into a bar, piss and shit everywhere, and leave without elaborating with zero consequences
advertisers promote censorship because their customers don't want their product linked to certain thingsto destroy advertising why not spread fake ads with disgusting or offensive things on it?
>>108437631More reason to resist age verification.Let those advertisers suffer.
>>108438285How do I poop on Facebook.com?I need to know this.
>>108438285because we were anonymous on the internet for most of our lives and somehow it was viable until troons arrived
>>108438408>it was viableit was also viable for people to be fucking retarded and destructive, or else we wouldn't have all these fucking rules and restrictions today
>>108438408you have quite literally never once been anonymous
>>108438569>darknet drug markets aren't realWhat did xhe mean by xhis?
>>108438569can you post my posts from 2012 on /b/?
>>108438285>you can't expect to walk into a bar, piss and shit everywhere, and leave without elaborating with zero consequencesI know this is a troll post but I will explain because some retard will parrot this.1. You can't do something as bad, that does material damage, like defecation over the internet. IRL this will damage the environment possibly long term, there is no way to block the stench and feel of it, and paid staff will have to spend a hour cleaning. On the internet you just block/ignore and mods remove everything with 1 mouse click2. In a bar you are anonymous UNLESS you do something heinous like this where bouncers and cops will demand ID and write down details. What you are pushing for is that mandatory attendance, purchases and exact records of conversation in the bar is always written down and stored indefinitely, of the innocent. Not that in the case of actual crimes the perp might get doxxed and details noted as in a real life bar.
>>108438090>Suppressing black market bots is very different from AI crawlers. Black hat bots won't crawl or matter for advertising much. But yes, you could get multiple, but it's impossible to do privacy-safe age verification without that problem.ZKPs solve this. The only information that leaks about you is to a central authority, and the only information that central authority gets is that you have verified with them.
>>108437631>tfw you realize all of the age verification and identity verification is because advertisers want to verify they aren't paying for AI crawlersEven if that was true that doesn't matter because others will use it for even more nefarious means. It should never be implemented.
>>108437657Problem ReactionSolution brought about by gAyi
>>108437631I think advertiser are just as bad so anything that hurts them is good. I will just stop using things that require me to give my data to tel aviv
>>108437631> "because of bots" kek
>>108439214> force of natureit's not a force of nature, it's just other people. shittier people who just can't stop scheming and lying.
mossad wants to track every antisemitic post down to the machinealso you can't use "yeah you got my ip but it was not me" as exuse
>>108437631>AI killing ads-terroroh no
fuck the ad mafia fuck the demiurge i will not "verify" my "age"
>>108437631If you weren't retarded you'd have pieced together that the real answer is the jews.
>>108438512You're making a losing and retarded argument Can you see me right now?Can you scan my balls and sell the info to Billy gates? No? There's your answer
>>108438337I can think of one for burger king
>>108437631it's because zuckerberg used $80 billion to bribe politicians to make it the law and for no other reason
>>108438603>>108438408saaaaaar
>>108437631if/when the curtain is pulled back, the internet will totally collapse. 90% of reddit posts are underage kids, shit skinned turd monkeys, and bots. 90% of web traffic is bots. 90% of social media posts in general are turd world shit monkeys posting AI niggerslop for $0.00001 per boomerclick (saar you must do the understandings, such remittances is enough to feed cadmium-poisoned village for many month.)>PAY PER CLICK FUCKS ARE GOING TO ZERO!!!!!!
>>108438285Do you need ID to buy groceries?
>>108437631This problem doesn't exist in ChinaYou need WeChat to log in to anything, and the only way to create a WeChat account is being referred by a Chinese national.While the democratic governments are still asleep with implementing safe and anonymous Digital ID protocol for the people, the big tech is going to implement their own, and it's going to be much worse and sloppy. This is the result.
