it's literally just arch without systemdArch is great yes
>>108438198Thoughts on Guix?
>>108438198Arch is shit. I dont know why it is praised so much here.They agreed to rewrite pacman in Rust and now they want to censor anyone skeptical of systroond.
>>108438214no clue about GuixI think NixOS is a phenomenal concept but personally I couldn't be fucked to use something like that as a daily driverif I gave a fuck about (lack of) systemd I'd probably use Void desu
>>108438214Unusable shit from freetards where bunch of troons decide for you what is "free". NixOS is much better
>>108438055It's garbage that doesn't bring anything new other than seething over systemd, wayland etc
>>108438226allow me to quote the Arch wiki intro>Arch is a pragmatic distribution rather than an ideological one.it's a rolling release distro that gives you a clean slate and quick easy installation of every Linux package you could possibly dream ofif it stays this way and keeps working, I don't give a shit
>>108438260NixOS has systemdick cancer.
Wtf is wrong with GNOME not working without systemd? Wtf? I can deal with krashes. But looks like I have no choice.
>>108438399KDE is starting to integrate systemd dependencies heavily too. Both are pozzed
>>108438268choice is good, actually>>108438198which means you need service configuration files for N supported service managers.Which I think they manage to do quite well, but you have to be prepared to occasionally write on yourself.
>>108438390Why do you care
>>108438055>unironically shilling fartix
>>108438055My sweet spot would be Artix with systemd-boot. That's literally the only systemd component I really like, especially compared to GRUB.
>>108438490Age verification. Otherwise, I'd just use Fedora with gnome.
Artix with hyprland and Runit. Thoughts?
its the distro i started with and i see no reason to change, i use it on all my machines with openrc, one with rEFInd and hyprland on my amd laptop, and the other pcs with x11 with bspwm since they have old nvidia cards, super stable even after months of uptime and no issues running pacman -Syu after that
>>108438509https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/nosystemd-boot-artix>>108438523dinit
>>108438518But systemd haven't added age verification, it's just a JSON field
>>108438304Wow the first sentence is a blatant lie.
>>108439146Does someone have the ywnbaw post?
>>108439207
>>108439246Kek, really good
I've daily driven Artix for years now on my laptop and desktop. It has fewer issues than arch imo because half of the arch issues I had were with systemd. The problems you run into are usually minor config changes or sometimes make you compile something yourself without a systemd dependency. Funny how separating yourself from systemd doesn't stop the systemd plague from breaking your shit.Runit service files are dead easy to build, I have a template I clone and it takes like 10s to create+enable a new service. Systemd means writing a service file in the right location with the right *.target wait conditions plus systemctl daemon-reload on every config file edit. I just wish making a runsvdir work on user login was more seamless.
>>108439146>>108439246Damnnnn lmao. I'm so sick of these trannies and jeets running everything FOSS that I might actually hop to Artix now.
It's the best one we got now. We really have to start making our own distros if we contunue getting cucked like this>>108438226>rewriteproof?
>>108438622Idc, they are not acting in good faith.
>>108438055I just downloaded dinit version and give it a try.
>>108438523Runit is great, but I prefer dinit over it. Imo, runit it is a bit annoying to use having to symlink stuff
>>108438055No it's not. None of the small community distros are. At least if you're a *serious* user. It breaks constantly and you'll spend hours trying to get shit like Steam to work (only for it to break as soon as you update).I appreciate the work the devs put into these small community distros, but these are not "finished" products. They're hobbyist distros needing constant care, constant fixing, and you'll have constant headaches. The best thing is wait for a fix for your current distro, something will come out. They're already forking systemd, other fixes will be out too. Don't wreck your current workflow by knee jerking overreacting right now.
>>108441185Nigga it's quite literally just Arch without systemd. Unless you're using a retarded DE like gnome or something, you'll have no other problems other than what you'll get with Arch in general. Unironically, the one big flaw with Artix is that when Arch has a breaking change, it's immediately passed down to Artix.
>>108441185That's why I only use immutable distros. When I have a good version I pin it and when new update breaks something I write a bug report, go to pinned version, wait some time and update when things are fixed.
>>108438498YWNBAW o algo
>>108441185sounds like a skill issue
>>108439828If you pick your distros based on vibes then IDK what to tell you
>>108439596>>108439207>Does someone have the ywnbaw post?Have a better one
>>108438055I've been using it for close to 2 years, yes it's good>>108438268>doesn't bring anything new other than seething over systemd, waylandsystemd yes, but wayland? you can use wayland fine on Artix, retard>>108438509>My sweet spot would be Artix with systemd-bootthat's what I did too. I made a package on the AUR for it that >>108438610 linked
>>108438055Why do you guys just ask these questions instead of just trying out the distro yourself, you can run operating systems even from a flash drive if you don't want to compromise anything on your pc
>>108438498>unironically shilling systemdwhat is this mental illness called?
>>108443545zionism
>>108438055It's great
>>108438055Install worked but update failed for me.Probably a transient issue but I need shit to work more often than usually.Apparently void tries to be more conservative with their updates (ironically since its apparently troonware), so I'm going to try that next.
>>108443460Damn I might check it out lol, is it stable? (in comparison to arch I mean)
>>108438420I asked copilot about it, and it claimed the infamous Register article is a misunderstanding of what is happening with KDE and there are no plans to make KDE incompatible with non-systemd setups.I'll look into it later. If gnome can no longer work with elogind as a drop-in replacement for systemd-logind, it may be the worse case of the two.
>>108445891>is it stable?No it's just arch without Systemdthe packages are a bit delayed compared to Arch because of that
>>108441429You can also disable the automatic updates and do it manually once a week/month or whatever.Daily updates are useless win-slop's mindvirus anyway.
>>108441185>you'll spend hours trying to get shit like Steam to workI just installed Steam and it took 2 minutes (bc steam on first launch is slow as fuck on every platform for some reason)
>>108445863>update failed for methe latest linux-firmware update requires manual reinstalling due to upstream having made a mess. read the news
>>108438622>it's just a JSON field>two more weeks>flatten the curve>just get the shot!Idiots
>>108438622Next up:NameEmailAgePronounsSorry: Gnu/SystemD/Pronouns
>>108438420IIRC that was just with plasma login manager, not the actual desktop, though that could have changed now maybe. I wouldn't be surprised since most distros just use systemd now.>>108447403>>just get the shot!I'm still waiting on the fabled mass vax deaths. Also covid was 6 years ago and every non schizo has moved on with their lives.
>>108447519>IIRC that was just with plasma login managerit was, and nta, but I really don't trust KDE to not do what they say they won't do anymore. notably they said they wouldn't drop X11 until 7.0, then they announced they're dropping it in 6.8 but only in 2027, then recently announced it'll happen in August.
>>108442842At the end of the day distro wars are pretty much pointless. All the distro choices come down to just either going with stable or rolling release and that's it. Might as well show support for the less cucked devs for culture war reasons cos there isn't really a difference, especially for someone going from Arch to another Arch based distro.
>>108447403The guy said this as well, wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bAN4Jam974
>>108441185So you advise against bad community distros, but some community forks of systemd are ok?[FAILED] Starting brain systemd.braind
>>108438055mehhhhh basic arch is better imo
>>108438390Shepherd (the guix init system) somehow manages to be worse.
Hey /g/ can you be honest please? I never cared about Arch/Artix, are those screencaps real? Are those the real devs or just other forum doods?
>>108449590How anon? Genuinely curious.
>>108443517Just wondering how I set systemd-boot up on Artix, might use it when I make the move
