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Are there any non-conspiratorial, non-naive shill explanations for there is a war being waged on personal computing? You all see it too, right? Like why is Facebook spending $2 billion on vague age verification legislation?
>Well you see it's because they're building a global surveill-
That doesn't answer the question. The question is why? Why right now?
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>>108445967
because of ai getting good enough?
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>>108445993
Does this actually mitigate that threat though? Wouldn't it just be saner to move stuff off of the fucking internet and away from computers?
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>>108446002
what, how can you do surveillance then?
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>>108446009
I mean they seem pretty good at it already. The FBI never has any problems pulling people's entire internet history in court.
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>>108445967
They don't want people finding out about photosynthesis. The internet already caused them to miss their vaxx targets.
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>>108446014
I guess they want to see where people are and what they do all the time.
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>>108445967
It's the jews, stupid.
They want total world domination and to eradicate everyone that isn't a jew; and every day there is some retard here like OP or elsewhere going "uhh why thing worse now???".

It's the fucking J E W S. Get it through you thick skull.

Who has been pushing for all these ID verification rules? Zucker and berg.

OpenAI: jew
Anthropic: jew
Meta: jew
US government is occupied by jews.
Academia is occupied by jews.
Justice system occupied by jews.
Media occupied by jews.
Secret services occupied by jews.

TOTAL DOMINATION

And the goyim are still like "uhhh but why thing like it do??".

WAKE UP, you're getting genocided and put into a digital and physical prison.
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>>108446032
I'm Jewish though (non-observant)
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>>108446027
What a terrible, terrible situation we are in.
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>>108445967
>The question is why? Why right now?
facebook (and other social media companies) are specifically lobbying for the age verification to be moved into the operating system level
reason being is that under the other laws (the ones that put the age verification burden on to the websites) they are set to lose a lot of money in the form of fines
infact facebook lobbied AGAINST things like the online safety act (and the american equivalent; KOSA)
i would imagine this also goes the other way around (microsoft and apple lobbying for it to be the burden of the websites; etc)
that is to safe nothing of the fact that surveilance is very profitable because of advertising and social manipulation
and also AI becoming better makes all of that easier
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>>108445967

Like everything it's business.

Meta likely has millions of accounts of kids under 13, each with a COPPA fine of about $50k. So we're talking potential billions in liability here.

So - spend some money to create laws that muddy the liability. The whole point of these age attestation/verification laws is so they can shift responsibility off of themselves and onto upsetting systems and app stores.

Will it reduce their COPPA liabilities? Technically no because COPPA is federal and all these laws are state.

But practically speaking it might. COPPA is basically $50k per kid that you know is under 13. They may be able to save a cool billion or two with the defense of "we had no idea, we asked the operating system and it said they were of age!"

You should call your lawmakers and be a total pain in the ass every single day until this shit is revoked.
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>>108446082
Actually interesting positions I hadn't thought about, and it makes sense.
But where did the legislation to protect children originate from anyways? Was it really just concerned parents and some willful yellow journalism?
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>>108446108
Politicians who want to push something that looks good to the average voter in hopes that they will be reelected. They don't actually care about the children, and it didn't originate from anybody who does care about the children.
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>>108445967
>non-conspiratorial explanations
how would there be?? the proposition itself is a conspiracy theory
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surely you have seen shinjuku street pic with 92teraherz or something like that captioning thats from computer psus
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>>108445967
>why would (((they))) want everything to be a service tht they can charge a monthly fee for?
is this a real question?
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>>108445967
is rich people not wanting you to own things really as big of a conspiracy as you're making it out to be? They openly talk about it lmao
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>>108446238
this lol
>any non stupid reasons for why the moon is made of cheese?
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>>108445967
In the USA and English speaking world a combination of grooming, harassment, state actor political interference, and financial cyber crime have created this sense of frustration with the obfuscation offered by the Internet. At the same time, there are few issues the West can agree on other than F China, so taking what feels like a small step towards digital identification is a win for politicians to rally around. Normiefolk already post only to boost their real life identities and operate as though they have no expectation of privacy, and can be motivated to sympathetic for digital age verification by the classic pedo fighter argument because no one wants to be the guy arguing pedos need more anonymity. So basically, it's gg already. What's more, creating a centralized method of user identity attribution is great for advertisers who are adrift in a new world of LLMs and the soon to be retired (maybe) cookie.

I'm sure Peter Thiel and his pet balding lotr dork are salivating at the idea of panopticon but I truly believe the answer is that it will be handed to them for the above reasons and not so much because of any real influence palantir or whoever else has over governments.
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>>108445967
There are plenty of reasons. It all depends on who you ask, and the more grounded conspiracies turn out to be worse than theorized. Some unironically think it's a good idea because it will keep kids from watching porn, consequences be damned. Both making porn illegal or making internet illegal for minors would have a better effect on society and be better overall.

Depending on the implementation, such systems can easily end anonymity. This, along with eliminating young people from getting their wrongthink, is extremely valuable to keep narratives going. For the record, implementations that are 100% (afaik) anonymous exist. However, I have my doubts that this is what we will be getting.
>Why right now?
Governments right now are in a place where the Overton window is in the right place, and they have enough of both subverted and genuinely evil people that want this. There are also enough excuses besides porn, like bots, that allow for reasonable arguments to be made. Arguing against such tyranny is an uphill battle in today's society, primarily because of our subverted pseudo-morals. The amount of companies willing to provide such services has increased as well. There's also a push for thin clients, and PC as well as laptop users are apparently dwindling. The jews are definitely getting some flak and I hope it continues; they represent much of the force behind this.
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>>108445967
it's the jews lol
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>>108446108
>But where did the legislation to protect children originate from anyways?
Literally a scapegoat and possibly the greatest and oldest scapegoat the west has ever came up with. Its like license to murder if you say you're doing it for the children.
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Historical revisionists are coming out of the closet soon to do damage control for what is happening in the ME, they are going to try and delete/change history, that can't happen if people archive old videos/websites.
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>>108445967
Someone might dismiss it as a "conspiracy", but honestly at this point they stopped being subtle, only the blind can't see this. This push for DigitalID under the guise of "muh children", simultaneously across the world with sovereign countries with wildly different political leanings. All at once are pushing for this.
>okay what's the solution
There's none. If we don't identify who's pulling the strings behind the scenes, we can't fight back. Even if we overthrow all governments pushing for this, new administration will "suddenly" make the same decisions.



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