/t/bros? Is it our time?
>>108452007so i wasn't allowed to seed 2 terabytes this month?
>>108452007>The Court holds that contributory liability requires proof that the provider intended infringement and that intent exists only if the provider induced infringement or offered a service tailored to it; knowledge alone is insufficient.https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-171_bq7d.pdf
>>108452018>or offered a service tailored to itinb4 corpos are now going to claim that plans with big uploads speeds are "tailored" to seeders
>>108452007Cool, Now all the AI companies will be able to download all Hollywood movies for training purposes.
>>108452243and that's a good thing
>paid services getting breached 3 times a day>piracy legalizedcan't stop winning
>>108452007Good, more free movies & music for meI encourage piracy of movies & music & software because the only people that will bother to pirate that stuff is poor because people with disposable income will just buy it, and the poor should not be making the rich ricjer
>>108452023Then the ISPs will gesture broadly at content creators on twitch and youtube.
>>108452007I'm sure Sony will try to do something retarded. But this is a rare win
>>108452007with (((age verification))) aka deanonymization they don't need ISPs to collaborate
if true i'm gonna stop paying for a vpn. i only used it to get my isp off my ass
>>108452018>supermemecourt.government
>>108452974You can still get smoked by the record companies themselves. They pay contractors to camp the swarms and collect IP addresses, then they subpoena the ISP for your info to serve you with papers. ISPs still have to respond to that. In my experience they give you a series of warnings first though
>>108452974i think it's more of 'what you're doing now is fine' and not 'piracy is legal!'. so, keep that vpn!t. protonvpn
>>108452778>I encourage piracy of movies & music & software because the only people that will bother to pirate that stuff is poor because people with disposable income will just buy it, and the poor should not be making the rich ricjerFeels kinda based...
>>108452778your rhetoric is commie bullshitcopyright law is shit because it tries to make ideas (something that can be replicated infinitely) into something that is scarce
>>108452974you should definitely keep one around just in caset. have 4chan blocked in my CUNTry
>>108453107Silence in the presence of 4chan pass holders, you parasite
>>108453158nigger I'm the guy who posted >>108453107
>>108453202Yo, as a black man, I is offended at your use of the word "nigger". That is our word, and it only be empowering when we's using it. Word up
>>108453230Oh shit wrong namefag!!
>>108452007doesn't change anything for me, they can't stop me no matter what.
>>108452007Oh shit, is this the for seedbox hosting and shitty VPN providers?
I've been public and aggressive about file sharing since the 90s and it's funny to me that the only DMCA notice I got in all these decades has been for Good Burger 1 around the time the second one came out. lolthis is good news
>>108453263>thewhat the?
>>108452007And what hard drives am I going to feed and seed from? Might as well go out and buy the criterion Blu-rays given now much shit costs now
>>108452007>no longer requiredcan hollywood pay them to police their clients?
>>108452007Good
>>108453307in theory they can, but good luck bribing all ISPs in the nation for what is essentially a drop in the bucket of their "loses"
>>108453124what vpn isnt blocked by 4chan? i know mullvad is blocked.
>>108453290*The end
>>108453326https://4chan.org/pass
>>108453329>>108453263I don't think so. Not sure about sneedboxes, but VPNs are more popular than ever (especially when some jurisdictions like UK try to control the Internet)
>>108452007>ISPs are no longer required to police its clientsjuddging only by what that post says>ISPs aren't liable for juse piracydoesn't really translate into >ISPs are no longer required to police its clientsIMO, at least regarding other types of "policing"...
>>108453330aren't you worried about your PII if The Event from 2025 reoccurs?
>>108453330>cant pay with monero, cash in mail, or random gift cardyeah the whole point was to not dox myself to 4chan aka israel
>>108453346the Court's decision effectively says that as long as ISP doesn't advertise itself as "perfect for piracy" they are only required to answer to judicial orders
>>108453361netflix:>ensure your users aren't pirating our shows or we'll block your isp from our service and then you'll lose half your customersisp:>okay
>>108453330also how does that hide my ip address from 4chan staff aka jeff epstein? he didnt kill himself btw, he is still alive
>>108453376>anti-piracy only enforced on television and music consumersAnd nothing of value was lost.
>>108453376if they did that to comcast etc their business would die. many areas only have one option for an isp so people can't just switch
>>108453351PII is handled by Cuckbase/Stripe, not 4chanthe only thing they have on their server is my @cock.li mailbox>>108453355I bought prepaid USD card with Monero and used it here> cash in mailhttps://yanda.4chan.org/ :^)>>108453382oh it's really funny, most of the mod tools are designed for IPs instead of passes, so a bunch of times I had mods confused while posting (for example got IP wiped while other posts from other IPs were)they still can ban you and bans do stick to your pass instead of the IP, but in general you should assume that you're secure from mods trying to dox you
>>108453420>wereleft on the board
>>108453376I remember one IB doing so against a big range of IPs from a specific ISP and people just moved to other IBs instead of buying their version of passes keka major service like Netflix dropping ISPs over copyright will just kill Netflix
>>108453403>>108453496copecities have dozens of competing ispsnobody cares about your 1isp shithole
>>108453518you do know that most ISPs just resell from bigger companies, right?
It's more like we go back to when copyright holders would directly sue 10 year olds for $100 billion dollars for downloading a song
>>108453536court's decision doesn't stop them from DMCAing random seeders desu
>>108453518>At least 83.3 million Americans can only access broadband through a single provider.netflix does not have the margins to survive losing a few million subscribers from this demographic
>>108453562and what's the us population retard kun?
>>108453583350 millions? Making "people with only one ISP" a fucking quarter of the entire country's population?
>>108453583>just destroy ~20% of your largest market because isps won't send out scary letters for you bro itll be fine
>>108452007YEEEAAAHHHHH>>108453025We used to have a country where you would vote for people to pass laws but literally every law is subject to jewish magic tricks, they are effectively the real presidents.
>>108453641when was that? 1913 when they abolished real money for monopoly dollars and then amended to constitution so it's illegal to question it?
>>108452007Explain this to me in autistic detail.
>>108453657just read legaleselawyering is autism
>>108453107Nah Copyright Law is something even the founders recognized was important.NO ONE even 50 years ago would have had the idea that copyright should extend past the life of the owner. In 1909 when modern copyright law was formed, it was a flat 50 year time window and nothing could change that, not even extensions, because if you could not make something profitable in 50 years and find a way to use it to make new things which could be copywritten, then you did not deserve to have a monopoly on that idea. The jewish trick bullshit happened because of Mickey Mouse in the 70s and Sonny Bono in the 90s
>>108453727>Nah Copyright Law is something even the founders recognized was important.as an ancap I could argue with you about copyright being "necessary", but yeah even a compromise of reducing the copyright terms would already be an great improvement in the current state of affairs
>>108453346Oh, no. They're gonna make penis inspection days weekly instead of monthly, aren't they? I fucking hate comcast.
>>108452023>plans with big uploads speedsWell that basically doesn't matter around here since 200/200 is as low as it goes and most people are on half or 1 gig. They sure as hell aren't going to just sue everyone.
>>108453290The Game
>>108453046With CG-NAT being extremely prevalent they cant do shit with an IP address Afaik the supreme court has even acknowledged lower court rulings that an IP address is insufficient for identifying anyone specific for copyright claims.This honestly seems like a death blow for copyright holders going against simple consumers
>>108453997Are these good american prices or avg or bad? It mog the prices we are stuck with in Cucknada. This is what happen when all your telcom is monopoly-owned
>>108452007Okay. We weren't enforcing shit anyways. Maybe a call to someone who got 60+ tickets in a single day to tell them to chill, but nothing beyond that.
>>108454071Wasn't there a big lawsuit against a porn torrenter in Georgia like last year?
>>108453376That's a good way to encourage piracy if anything. All the innocents ISP users will be cut off, they would be in their right to sue Netflix to be refunded and would have no other choice but pirate to see the stuff they used to pay but can't access anymore. Also stuff like that kill goodwill and spread the knowledge/idea of piracy.Better live with it and cope by hoping that piracy translate into extra word of mouth and critical praise for their shows. I guess they don't do it because they are greedy and need to squeeze profitability. They added paid subscription but with fucking ads, they can't milk their customers too much at once so they do this shit now.
>>108453960kek
>>108453025>>108453641anon the supreme court was written into the constitution, by the framers no less, as one of the three co-equal branches of government. the federal court system might have been created by congress, but the supremes have been right there from the start.
>>108454150to be desu Supreme Court wasn't as strong in its early days as it is now (see Jefferson)
>>108454161yeah john marshall turned the sc into a mary sue using his legal fanfiction in marbury
>>108454161while this may be true i'd argue that the executive isn't as powerful as it used to be. it's almost like government across the board is shirking its responsibilities.
>>108454237>while this may be true i'd argue that the executive isn't as powerful as it used to beAnon Trump de-facto declared war just because Congress effectively surrendered this power to the President>it's almost like government across the board is shirking its responsibilities.if only this was the case
>>108453997>They sure as hell aren't going to just sue everyone.Don't give those fuckers bad ideas!
good news
>>108452007Won’t they just throw us under the bus harder when those nastygrams arrive in the mail?
>>108453997They will most definitely sue everyone, that is what (((they))) always do.
>>108454108>would be in their right to sue Netflix to be refundedyou are an idiot
>>108454923Don't worry about it. Lawyers are expensive.
You shouldn't pirate. Pirating is stealing.
>>108455689Those gosh darn tech companies pirated a heck of a whole lot of books and movies to train their AI to work as well as they do. What gives?
>>108453107If you knew the first thing about copyright law, you'd know that a lot of attention was spent putting strict limitations on exactly what could be claimed IP. "Ideas can't be copyrighted" is one of the core principles. That's why the DMCA was such a big deal and a pain in the ass. Traditional copyright was based primarily on fixed forms. Physical books and magazines, sheet music, recordings, etc. They leveraged the marginal cost and difficulty of duplication. A major counterfeit operation required specialized equipment and meatspace distribution methods.And physical media owners retained mant key rights that copyright owners could not violate.
>>108452007Only on /g/ could this somehow be construed so dimwittedly as "beneficial to the general public"
>>108455722someone sell me a facebook datacenter vpn or proxy ip so i can pirate in peace
>>108453286I got one for Amazing Stories and the TMNT cartoon.
Jefferson spittin
>>108454076About average. I pay 85 for symmetric gig.
>>108455931Incorrect. Without guaranteed return on investment there is no reason to invent new things. Monopolies are the only way to do that. Patents and Copyright should both be eternal. If you don't like it discover and create something better yourself.
>>108456164I can say at least in the case of software and other media I produce, I need and/or want to make it anyway and digital copies are practically free of cost for me to utilize to share them just like others have done with me.
>>108452007No need for ISPs to police you if your OS will now have an spyware to see what you are doing. :)
>>108456164>Patents and Copyright should both be eternallol, lmao even
>>108452007Good. The record judes only started going after ISPs for settlement money because suing grandma for incalculable damages wasn't very popular. This ruling pretty much gives ISPs common carrier protections, so I guess they have to go back to being shunned by the public if they want to continue being litigious kikes
>>10845372750 years is still unreasonable. It should be 20, just like patents. And have exceptions for non-profit and small scale uses of intellectual property.
>>108452007>/t/bros? Is it our time?Just means they probably found a better way to monitor you now.
>>108455744>"Ideas can't be copyrighted" is one of the core principles.all "intellectual properties" are ideas you fucking nigger
>>108456164>Without guaranteed return on investment there is no reason to invent new thingsSoftware is used to accomplish certain tasks do you really think that people wouldn't sponsor the development of software to achieve said tasks?
>>108456554>20patent bullshit of H.264 should've made it pretty obvious that even twenty years is too much
>>108455744total lawyer death
no one supports software patents and patents on other "intellectual" / "cyber" stuff except jews and lawyers
>>108454071Literally the only times I've ever gotten letters is from copyright holders complaining about my IP Address to my ISP
>>108455689Digital piracy doesn't steal anything, it's just copyright infringement at worse.
>>108452007I live in an area where Cox services.Here is what happened.>Cox impliments a copyright strike system to catch pirates>Verizon does not>Cox starts cutting service and sending nasty emails to customers the system they payfor catches>Verizon doesn't>Cox gets sued by copyright faggots cause they know that their users violated copyright.>Verizon shrugs and says we don't monitor that stuff>Cox fights it and loses multiple times because the same people they were cooperating with were now back stabbing them.>Verizon shrugs and says we don't watch what our users do. Not our job, so there wasn't much of a case against them.>Cox finally won a big win, but spent a decade losing customers to Verizon and has aging infrastructure and notoriously bad service.I am very happy for the precedent of this case... but fuck me the damage is done. They lost so much good will trying to cooperate and play ball.
Ive been torrenting for more than 10 years and never gotten a single letter or complaintThen again I don't live in an Epstein country
>>108461058>the same people they were cooperating withim pretty sure theres a lot of overlap between ISPs and IP owners. ISPs or theor parent companies often have their own media networks, TV channels etc.Would you be surprised if Sony reported you for watching pirated Spiderman on your PS5? Its enforcing their own copyright.
>>108461159That was why Cox had interest in implementing. TV and movies pirated means their cable service isn't getting money. Other cable companies like Comcast and time warner have obvious interests in monitoring piracy. COX less so.However I find it funny it bit Cox in the ass all because they tried playing ball to prop up their dying cable service just to have their cable service still die and lose market share of internet to competitors.
>>108452778>and the poor should not be making the rich ricjerIf you let go of this mindset, I'm sure it would feel freeing for you too. I grew well off and had my parents buy me most the consoles of the late 1990's and 2000's One example being PS2. 15 years later, I still have most of my disks intact and the console itself still works like new. That said, I still ended up recently pirating the games I already had. Starting up a torrent client and getting shit for free is one of the best feelings ever. In fact, the process of pirating, and watching my NAS box slowly fill up with is more content is more entertaining than consuming the content itself. Like I said, it's freeing to not dance around morals or have a pre-scripted justification to virtue signal to others for something you truly love.
>>108452778I can't imagine consuming infinite slop and pretending I'm winning.Y I K E SIKES
>>108453107It's called the free market. If companies are upset that I can get the same exact thing they're selling for free that's on them.
>>108453286I only got caught when I was in college>be me, in college>super bored at dorm, didnt bring playstation to college>start pirating games on my laptop>get email from the school listing what they caught me pirating>skyrim, bioshock, a few ps1 and ps2 games>said I needed to bring my laptop to the school IT department or I'll get expelled>ok, whatever>bring it to the IT office>fat older guy playing age of empires at his computer>looks over, asks if i'm the pirate>says "ok, well. I'm going to have to make sure the files are all completely removed from your computer">walks back to his desk, grabs a usb stick>asks where my torrents folder is>cuts/pastes the entire folder to the usb>takes it out, hands me my laptop and the usb stick>"Good. They're all completely removed. If you're gonna torrent, use these sites, but I'm sure the school won't catch you again" then winked at mecoolest dude ever, pretty sure he whitelisted my laptop or something cus my internet was a lot faster when I got back to my dorm.
>>108454071this idea you have that user access account isn't time-logged with the pool's assigned IP address is a funny idea.
>>108452007Slopbros, we won!
>>108452007USA won ziggers lost
>>108452007what this case says is basically the equivalent of saying "knife manufacturers aren't liable when some schizo murders people with their knives">>108452974it doesn't legalize piracy and isps are still required to forward your info to copyright trolls. however this will probably empower isps to be a little more lax on how they cancel your service
I've never had a single warning from my ISP and have been torrenting since like 2008do you have to pirate the latest Marvel™ for that to happen?
>>108465369Paramount, actually. Literally the only time I've ever gotten warnings ever in my life was from Paramount properties.
>>108452023They'll go after VPNs is my feeling. Watching geoblocked videos on YouTube is so nice. Its fucked that you could watch a playlist of TV episodes but episode 7 is blocked for some fucking reason and then you need to figure out what country to switch to. Its bizarre because if you dont have the VPN on the episode won't even show up in the YouTube search so it makes you think "oh they probably removed it due to copyright". But then you Google the episode name and it shows up in THAT search.
>>108466258>They'll go after VPNs is my feelingit's pretty easy to make your own VPN on a random VPS
FINALLY they're leaving the other multi-billion dollar companies alone
>>108455689
>>108452007The only benefit of AI is that copyright jews have been completely gutted and now hold no power at all.I was laughing pretty hard at Meta claiming that them download/uploading/seeding explicitly copyrighted materials from Anna's archive was actually fair use because the US needs to be a global leader in "MUH AI"Gonna be very VERY funny if they actually get away with it and completely destroy the entire idea of torrenting copyrighted works being illegal.
>>108461159you can't prove that my copy of spiderman didn't come from a bluray i bought from walmart
>>108462538based. my district IT guys were all boring boomers
>Some new ruling or law not for the worseI don't believe this news.
This is certainly not a win. It simply opens up the lane for law enforcement to come directly after people who engage in "piracy".
>>108454108This! the truth is, not many people "pirate" content online, nor know how to. Majority of people buy content
>>108453727ALL of it is nonsense. There is no "once upon a time, things were great".
>>108453997those prices simply mean they're most definitely spying on users. After all, which ISP isn't? At the very least the connective are CGNAT.
>>108454150>I buhleeb in duh majik sbellz >I druzd le guvamind
>>108454237>shirking its responsibilitiesjfc the retardation never ceases to amaze me
>>108452007That is a massive victory against surveillance.
