>I want a distro without systemdNoo systemd is so greeeat! I love redhat boot! Anyway Devuan, Gentoo or Artix, not much choice here for you.>I want a distro without udevUh.. you can use eudev.. oh no, it's dead.. you can manually run mdev on boot.>I want a distro without dbusOff, too bad, many programs need this as dependency. You can try to compile each one yourself idk lol>Ok I want a distro with no redhatslop, no pam polkit udev dbus elogindManual video permissions, uhh.. rootless Xorg... Uhh..ehh.. LiNuX is JUST fREE AnD SHUT uP ANON! REEE!
>>108453271Just make you own distro, bruh
>>108453271Linux freedom can only be truly achieved if you get a barebones distro like Arch or build it from the kernel yourself/thread
AI said I should buy the ECM1900‑7EG if I want to design and test my own CPU and OS that doesn't have spooks on it.
>>108453271not seeing where the lack of freedom is. you can write a replacement for any of those things at any time.
>>108453271make your own OS, retard
freedom doesn't mean someone else is going to make your snowflake shit for free
>>108453280>>1084533161. You need skillz for that. 2. Your self-cooked distro wouldn't be very secure. popular software, that (((they))) own, is regulairly audited and patched.
>>108453335no one is stopping you from getting the skills or making it secure. that's what free means.
>>108453271>is linux freedom a lie?Define freedom. I think of OS freedom as choice; so being able to choose what I want is my definition.Does GNU+Linux offer me this freedom?Absolutely. More so than Macintosh, Haiku, *BSD, Windows, or anything else.Does Windows offer me enough freedom of choice to make me happy?Absolutely. I can install what I want, and tweak the system to do & not do what I want(W10 IoT Enterprise LTSC) enough that I am satisfied to use it.I use both Windows & GNU+Linux daily. The choice is yours, though; it is your system after all.
>>108453344>choiceMainstream distros dependon redhat components. See where this got us into?>use non mainstream distrosSo Void or Gentoo. Rest are forks which means they are upstream dependent or niche autistic half assed projects.
>>108453380>Mainstream distrosThose are people that made choices; GNU+Linux isn't a distro, it is a base system.
>>108453271>is linux freedom a lie?Rather than beat around the bush like a retard I will tell it to you straight: Yes.
>>108453271Give to caesar what's caesar, you use other people stuff and expect to be entitled to every minimal change you want?You can only be free if you have the skills for it, that's for everything in lifeLinux is free because you have the source code and documentation to make things be in the way you wantWhy are people such toddlers like you today? Freedom is not free, go work for it, chop chop
>>108453417>>108453336Soo... in opposition of what freetards on popular outlets shout, software is de facto meritocracy. If you can make software, you rule people who can't. People who want freedom needs to accomplish extra effort just to get a working independent system. This is bs
>>108453324this
>>108453476Freedom was never free in absolutely in aspect of lifeHow the hell do you expect freedom and laziness at the same time?
>>108453476>life is bullshit because i can't just snap my fingers and have everything i want exactly how i want it
>>108453476anon, you are free to run your system however you want. thats true freedom brother
>>108453509Yes. Please don't tell me you are not depressed by this because that would be ragebait.Yes I did expect FSF or other jerks to make an "instant freedom" distro, I thought that's the whole thing they fight for but >naah, here are some shitty GNU/components, now compile LFS you pleb.
>>108453271>>Ok I want a distro with no redhatslop, no pam polkit udev dbus elogindHyperbola Libux, it took me 5min to look your requirements up.You're welcome.
>>108453556>Yes I did expect FSF or other jerks to make an "instant freedom" distrohttps://www.gnu.org/Go be stupid somewhere else. >>>/v/
>>108453476Holy shit just kill yourself you absolute mongoloidFreedom doesn't mean free shit retardI bet you also think freedom means muh free healthcare and government subsidized housing. You are entitled to nothing.
>>108453556the reality is that you read a bunch of shit from veterans and you think any of it impacts you as a regular, clueless userif you're at the level where your complaints matter then you can act on your skillshave you seen the source code of the software inside your router? do you know all the ins and outs of the electrical grid, water and sewage systems?no, yet you don't seethe about themyou don't need to cry about systemd or udev or dbus or red hat if you don't actually understand it
>>108453271I want GNU without Linux, yet here we are
>>108453661Didn't know I was talking with anon proficient in unix programming, sewage treatment and power distribution at once lol You can always make such remark about more and more things that are hard to get independent from, this doesn't make caring about those easier things to change meaningles
>>108453556>what's gnu guix and other linux-libre distros
>>108453280>Just maintain a separate fork for every single thing you want to change.I'm pretty sure the "Linux is open source, didnt'cha know? You can just change anything you don't like" crowd are all nocoders.
Part of the last bastion of computer Freedom.
>>108453654Almost like free healthcare decreases risk of suicide from lack of it .. nahh couldn't be it.
Anyone else becoming progressively more repulsed by nonfree software?Started out as a Windows user, moved to Ubuntu a decade ago, now switched to Devuan and with all the recent scandals even thia distro doesnt seem radical enough. I find myself flirting with Trisquel/Guix. Did I fall into some kind of Stallman pipeline?
>>108453271Just because you're free to do what you want doesn't mean someone is going to do it for you.
>>108453712I went in the reverse direction, and here I am on Windows11.
>>108453712>Windows: incompetency and pajeets>Linux: incompetency and tranniesPick your poison.
Being a meritocrat does not give you the right to be an asshole.Linus should've moderated his own language in the first place.
>>108453556>i know nothing but i want others to serve methen pay them
>>108453280>>108453316>>108453320>>108453324>>108453336This. The source is available for you to do whatever you want with. Freedom doesn't mean forcing other people to make shit to your exact specifications.
>>108454343>Freedom doesn't mean forcing other people to make shit to your exact specificationsbut I want it :(
>>108453503>How the hell do you expect freedom and laziness at the same time?Did you actually try to de-boomerize computing?>>108453476 is right in that there's a knowledge and power differential between people who write software and those who can't, and it's pointlessly convoluted to learn HOW to actually write software as opposed to regurgitating code and calling it a day. Knowledge that can liberate people and improve the human condition should not be gatekept, but that's exactly what's happening. People are at the mercy of s()ydevs and their goytarded narratives on how things should be. The best way to change this is make it so anyone, anywhere can actually write software instead of being a pajeet code monkey at best and just going along to get along at worst.
>>108453462faggot only women say chop chop fucking homo
>>108453476>freedom entails responsibilityWhoah who'd have thunkit?
>>108453271I use Gentoo and use none of these things.
>>108453271I'm currently using an Alpine-based install without any of that nonsense and you can too.
>>108453271>is linux freedom a lie?Yes. Linux is baby's first step out of Plato's cave, but few understand the cave is recursive. If it does have an end, I have yet to find it.
>>108456951I'd start with the hardware.
>freedom means others need to make what i wantnot what that means
>>108453271No one has conjured a commercial offering featuring the exact set, combination and configuration of programs that I thought up in the last 5 minutes and have very strong opinions on so that means that a GPL licensed program actually takes away my freedomWere you actually as proficient as your use of buzzwords you sincerely hope suggests you'd boot fucking arch or idiotentoo or a fucking lfs for all I care and set up these very specific programs yourself but that'd quickly have you come to a realization that maintaining a spaghetti web of contrarian unmaintained sperg projects on your live system is a ungrateful and pointless job and that stupid jewish RedHat maintainer simply chose what works and what his company is willing to maintain
>>108454419Then make it yourself or fund someone else to
We're going to live in a post-internet world where people abandon the world-wide-web. How do I pay my bills now? How will I check my bank accounts? I can't even get a landline phone anymore.
>>108457324Who cares.
>>108457342That's the joke.
>Anyway Devuan, Gentoo or Artix, not much choice here for you.that's still plenty to cover a broad array of usecases, I don't know what you're bitching about
>>108457715Gentoo looks like best choice here, as other two are forks, so upstream dependent.>what you're bitching aboutgnu/linux has like a shittion distros and now it's narrowed to 3 + those fsf endorsed maybe
>>108457852>gnu/linux has like a shittion distrosNot really. It has like half a dozen actual distros and a bunch of pointless forks.
>>108457852>>108458315
>>108458344Anon, there's only like five actual distributions there still in development that aren't forks or memes. You just proved my point.
>>108458394I don't even care who you are let alone what point you are trying to make. You and that other faggot sound retarded. Your opinion on the distros doesn't mean anything, not only is it wrong but you are probably not even a real person.
>>108458416You sound mentally ill
>>108453271>is linux freedom a lie?Yes it has always been, remember people part of linux hate the freedom PCs bring. - Linus hates ACPI. ( the reason you don't have that bullshit with phone where you need a specialized custom rom for your phone and you cannot have a generic iso or rom)- The people behind Libreboot are against the idea UEFI (reason you can easily boot another OS, they want the bootloader thing form android, that's effectively what it is.)>>I want a distro without systemdWell the thing is you can have distro without systemd but you will lose functionality as development is by big corps who want the least amount of things to target and systemd makes the life easier. However you people similar like you OP (Systemd haters) paradoxically hate Wayland as well where to opposite has become true you now have multiple different implementations and you people hate it (even though you want so called init freedom). Also what will you do if systemd turns into a rulesheet like wayland. Will you people explode because of the cascaded contradictions?
>>108458421>soundI am not the one hearing voices, faggot.
