>>108454284
buyfag thread LOL

>a machine that does nothing but play boot into a CLI/IDE and let you play video games, connect to BBS or chat and program

Everything after this really has just been a step back huh? Apparently assembly on the 6502 isn't too bad either since it only has a handful of instructions and 3 registers, just got to get creative if you want to do any of that fancy stuff like multiplication.

>>108454284
>RGB
Hold on, I'm ordering a copy now!

if I'm gonna get a toy replica it's gotta be the retrogames thea1200

>>108454300
it's the guy who makes it doing viral marketing
this is being promoted for more than half a year at this point

OPEN 2,2,0,"TCP://yourserver.com:3000"
PRINT#2,"MOVE LEFT"
INPUT#2,A$

What online c64 ultimate game should I make first, bomberman?

>>108454300
Anon you need it, look at it, you need the 8bit goodness in your life. How else are you going to get a handle on low level programming? It's the same price as an expensive acoustic guitar and precisely as valuable. It can't be that hard for you to kidnap a child and sell them to the cartel right (don't do that)?

>>108454341
It's not a replica, it's an fpga recreation of the actual thing.

>>108454384
I just heard about it a few days ago from youtube I think, haven't seen any threads about it and I'm surprised no other anons are pogging as hard as I am. There's obviously a long term niche for pixel shit, it's it's own style and the SID it's own instrument and a low power machine that does nothing but program video games, play video games, and connect to text boards sounds just very nice.

>>108454284
>>108454414
I already have a real C64 with lots of expansions.

>>108454284
why would you buy this shit in 2026? it's just more junk for your family to get rid of once you get drafted and die in middle-east.
just emulate this shit, you'll get tired of it within 10 minutes as you can't do shit with it.

>>108454284
6581 1:1 tapeout rerun or GTFO

>>108455534
There's already some amazing games like Laser Squad that run fine on 1mhz and 64kb of ram but the c64u has built in power super CPU and REU bumping it up to 64mhz and 16mb of ram so we can push the 8 bit world to it's limits.

>>108454284
Why does it look like it has a Raspberry Pi in there?

>>108455534
>you can't do shit with it.
gen a is braindead

>>108455570
It's FPGA though with real SID chips.

>Core: AMD Xilinx Artix-7 FPGA
>Memory: 128MB DDR2 RAM (16 MB system, 16 MB REU, 16 MB GeoRAM (soon), remaining MB RAM Disk), 16MB NOR flash
The fuck is this.

>>108455585
There's 128mb on board but it maintains the standard 64kb but you can activate the REU to add up to 16mb, which is the max amount the original DMA technology could support. It's the c64 ULTIMATE by the real Commodore company.

>>108455577
I'm millenial, we had this shit at home, still think it's worthless to hoard old hardware you can't use to do anything of value anymore.

>>108455620
It's a modern reproduction and not actually old.

>can't use to do anything of value anymore.
Most things people do on computers have no inherit value though, watching crap, video games, etc.

>>108455639
>It's a modern reproduction and not actually old.
even worse, wasting mineral and oil for this retardation
>Most things people do on computers have no inherit value though, watching crap, video games, etc.
but they can use these hardware to do useful things meanwhile you can't, it's 100% a nostalgia machine to cope with your miserable life
nostalgia is a mental illness, get it treated before it turns into depression

>>108455649
but I don't, I never do anything valuable on my PC except watch shit, shitpost and play games

>>108455649
I think you might be the one in danger of depression here

>>108455649
>we have electric guitars now, stop messing around with those acoustic pieces of crap, that's just nostalgia and will lead to depression
>uh... why are you riding a horse, we have cars now, that's just nostalgia


>inb4 a car can't be a horse, an electric guitar can't be an acoustic guitar but a new computer can be an old computer

Nuh uh os jitter + sid chip + fuck you. Can you run your gaming rig off a 12W solar panel? Don't think so.

>>108455444
>I'm surprised no other anons are pogging as hard as I am
least obvious reddit shill

>>108455649
I never had a C64, how is it nostalgia? I just like low level programming.

>>108455444
We've had several threads about it though.

>>108455687
i remember his exact same posting style and talking points to shill this e-waste. he knows what he is doing

>>108455681
>Can you run your gaming rig off a 12W solar panel? Don't think so.
You can play Cyberpunk 2077 on a 8W Android phone these days, so yes.

>>108454284
Oooooooo. Gonna go check that out as soon as I write this post.

>>108454414
>it's an fpga recreation of the actual
So, like the Spectrum Next. Neat.

>>108455534
>why would you buy this shit in 2026?
To have a computer that boots from ROM, doesn't have TPM, Intel Management Engine, systemd, Rust (Cargo, ewww), Python, spyware etc., so you can just have fun writing programs already.

>>108455570
>Why does it look like it has a Raspberry Pi in there?
It might. Some of the Spectrum Nexts do, for loading from tape or tape images.

>>108455676
still a retarded project
>>108455680
new tech is very cool, I'm living my best life now that computers actually work unlike in the 90s and before.
>>108455681
most retarded analogy I've seen in a while lmao
>Nuh uh os jitter + sid chip + fuck you. Can you run your gaming rig off a 12W solar panel? Don't think so.
why would I want that? I want to do things with my computers, not staring a blinking cursor wondering how I'll keep lying to myself that it was a good investment.
>>108455684
>I never had a C64, how is it nostalgia?
then you fall for marketing tricks, computers were awful in the past, you have 0 reason to want one, don't trust me? download emulators of past machines and see how they work.
>I just like low level programming.
just do that on your current computers
>>108455694
>To have a computer that boots from ROM, doesn't have TPM, Intel Management Engine, systemd, Rust (Cargo, ewww), Python, spyware etc., so you can just have fun writing programs already.
you can do that on your current hardware

I'm sure this company will go bankrupt in a few month as it serves no purpose, I've seen op's videos (it's a shill thread btw, I'm here to tell people not to fall for the scam) about how he bought the brand, the announced absolutely nothing, just mimicking old hardware ie the most worthless thing they could do.
they won't have the balls nor the money to develop the brand and make new special-purpose modern and actually useful hardware
>inb4 muh that one bakery still use c64
yeah i've seen the story, it does not fucking matter, there are other tools for hte job the c64 has nothing special.

>>108455693
Yeah but you can't write an ENTIRE phone app in assembly, checkmate.

>>108455748
>new tech is very cool, I'm living my best life now that computers actually work unlike in the 90s and before.
this is new tech though, what are you on about

>>108454414
I don't care how it works internally I just wanna play spaceballs state of the art on it to impress my loser friends on nostr

>>108455748
>just do that on your current computers
I can't with bare metal and I can't interface my own made hardware with emulators either

>>108455748
>you can do that on your current hardware
Enlighten me.

>>108455748
>I'm sure this company will go bankrupt in a few month
There's companies still making Amiga hardware to this day that are decades old by now and make profits.

>>108455620
>>108455649
>>108455748
PlayStation, Switch and Xbox are selling like hotcakes, how is this any different?

>>108455767
>this is new tech though, what are you on about
No.
>>108455774
(you) issue
>>108455781
just don't use these features
>>108455787
the nostalgia illness is world-wide
>>108455795
modern and you can actually use them, they're not just prop for your tech podcast background

>>108455808
>>this is new tech though, what are you on about
>No.
It's a modern FPGA retard

>>108455808
>the nostalgia illness is world-wide
Never owned an Amiga though as a kid but still like messing around with it.

>>108455808
>modern and you can actually use them
So just like this meme OP is shilling? Ok...

>>108455813
>>108455828
still the same old useless os, it does not matter how modern the hardware is because you can't use it to do anything with it

>>108455835
It plays games and shit like a Xbox though? Or are you going to say "muh graphics" like a /v/tard?

>>108455835
It has no OS, what are you talking about?

>>108455835
You don't even have to use it in C64 mode, lmao

>>108455847
Retard doesn't even know what she's talking about

>>108455835
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? It literally boots straight into the BASIC interpreter. It's literally designed for you to do nothing but create anything you want and run it and even share it around the world with built in networking.

>>108455835
Just let people be happy with a new old thing dude. What's your deal?

>>108455844
yeah, useful
>>108455850
>You don't even have to use it in C64 mode, lmao
why even buy it then lmao
>>108455866
>It literally boots straight into the BASIC interpreter
WORTH.
LESS.
>It's literally designed for you to do nothing but create anything you want and run it and even share it around the world with built in networking.
mostly nothing
just a bigger rpi that will sleep in a big drawer forever

>>108455921
Imagine being so narrow minded. Don't you enjoy coding?

>>108455795
If I just wanted to emulate any of those consoles, I can just use a PC.
If I want to emulate any C64 software, I can just use a PC.
What exactly does the Ultimate C64 exist for? Let's me interface with original C64 hardware? Why would I have that if I didn't have an original C64?

>>108455954
Why would you use a software emulator if you can use a FPGA based one?

>>108455973
Is latency really that big of a problem in C64 software emulation? That's the only advantage of FPGA emulators.

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>>108455954
The c64u outputs real composite. PC hardware that is not designed to do that simply cannot.

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>>108454284
I already have a real C64.
That being said, it has some issue where it boots into the classic purple screen but all the character glyphs are garbled/corrupted.
Been considering repairing it but no clue what's wrong, any anons more experienced with C64s here who might have an idea?

>>108456019
>That's the only advantage of FPGA emulators.
Could have started with the fact you're clueless.

>>108456020
I can run a real 15kHz CRT off my PC, even with composite.

>>108456056
Not real composite. Your PCs digital signal is being downscaled, resampled, and the wave form simulated. IWNBC.

>>108456071
I can run native 1:1 resolution and refresh, output it as RGB and use a RGB to composite encoder to display it on a 15kHz CRT TV.

>>108456056
>Could have started with the fact you're clueless.
Have you ever read this, by any chance?
https://archive.md/JEm6L

>>108456087
Perfect RGB with no soul.

>>108456106
It's the composite encoder that makes the image look "shitty" though.

>>108456115
You have a box that emulates generic artifacts, not hardware that produces authentic composite.

use case for wasting money on soilennial toys instead of saving for a down payment?

>>108456143
What? I'm converting 15kHz RGB to composite via a composite encoder.

>>108456102
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/archive.md

>>108456191
Some systems did RGB -> composite but not the c64. Colors on the c64 are directly tied to phase angles and there's chroma/luma interference, phase errors and cross talk that gives it a unique look you can't emulate.

>>108454284
can it run compiz

>>108454284
Bro is worrying about his bing wahoo shipping time while the global supply of fertilizer + fuel is collapsing due to the iran war and everyone's gonna fucking starve a couple months from now due to missed crop yields lmfaoo

>>108456217
Don't know about that, I always use my C64 with Y/C output, mostly with a CM8833.

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I got this instead

>>108454284
>not an Amiga 500
Gay faggot nigger

>>108456418
So what state is your qubit in right now? 0, 1 or both?

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>>108456197
It's up for me... oh well, have a full screenshot. If the C64 Ultimate is provably more accurate than Denise, then I'll definitely consider buying one.

>>108456904
This is related to FPGA emulation's only benefit being latency... how?

>>108455973
FPGAs can't accurately reproduce the mixed signal chips in a C64.

>>108456914
like?

>>108456914
FPGAs are just as accurate as software emulators.

>>108456913
That was poor phrasing on my part. It's not the only objective benefit and I apologise for that. Reduced latency is simply the only benefit I'm really sold on.

>>108454284
i have a real machine

>>108456019
>Is latency really that big of a problem in C64 software emulation? That's the only advantage of FPGA emulators.
cycle accuracy and latency have always been big problems with c64 emulation. fpga is a good solution to that but it also isn't perfect. it has to support software made 40+ years ago on a real machine using whoknowswhat version of the c64 with whoknowswhat revisions of chips. since commodore kept fucking around with chip revisions that also adds another layer of complexity trying to emulate or recreate in fpga those various quirks.
tl;dr: recreating a c64 isn't easy

It's the c64 ultimate by the Commodore International

>>108454284
How is this any different than running a C54 core on a MISTer? Yes, I know this thing supports all the old peripherals only collectors still care about but other than that, what's the use case?

>>108454284
I don't have to, I still have my original C64.

>>108454414
>it's an fpga recreation of the actual thing.
So, it's a replica.

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>>108456375
>c64 replica keyboard
>c64 replica joystick
>playing a NES game

the fuck

>>108459012
Hardware recreation, the electricity flows through the same exact logic gates as it used to.

>>108459008
sid chip also you turn it on and youre in the interpreter you don't have to set it up

>>108454284
Can I boot terrys templeos in it

>>108456918
the motherfucking SID chip?
literally the most famous part of the C64

>>108455934
>Don't you enjoy coding?
I do, this is why I buy a very powerful computer

>>108460501
The c64u uses real sid chips.

>>108460503
When was the last time you used a little assembly for serious optimization or programmed something not with oop? If only there was a perfect platform to do that on...

>>108454284
I have a real one, I wrote fizzbuzz in basic but I didn't have a way to save it

>>108454284
>looks like a jail computer

>>108460784
That's the starlight edition, people who got it say the glow is pleasant and not too intense. The colors react to eh sid chip. The golden one is the founder's edition. I got beige and a translucent red and a translucent blue controller, should about do it. I also ordered vision basic, I wonder if he implemented maps.

>>108454284
>open it up
>it's a raspberry pi

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>>108456055
>classic purple screen
Uh, you may have more problems than that even.

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>>108454284
I ordered one in december, where the FUCK is this commodore hub??

>>108456375
I brought this at work and every gen x and boomer compliments me daily on the keyboard

>>108460573
>When was the last time you used a little assembly for serious optimization or programmed something not with oop? If only there was a perfect platform to do that on...
I write drivers and firmware for a living so I often use assembly as part of the boot sequence/initialisation of hardware

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>>108454284
No thanks, I'm an MSX guy.

>>108454284
THREE HUNDRED FIFTY DOLLARS? Can’t you just emulate it on a modern machine for way cheaper?

>>108455547
A draft would require the democrats and republicans to vote together, that’s not happening. Hell a lot of republicans would vote against a draft.

>>108461945
>no sid chip
>no composite output
>no built in networking
>no real peripherals
>no soul
>os jitter
>VICE will fail the tight raster IRQ loop test and your ip will be banned from the sick online C64U games that are going to come out

>>108454284
Stop supporting Perifractic

>>108461923
>14 registers
damn must be nice I mean I'd rather actually understand the hardware instead of just having free variables everywhere, enjoy waiting an hour every context switch

>>108462164
who

>>108461424
It's a C64 Ultimate which is an FPGA simulator that's been around for a long time. The only new thing here is that somebody gathered together a newly moulded case, keycaps, a mechboard64, and an Ultimate and got the rights to sell them as a Commodore 64. You could have had all of those things years ago if you'd been so inclined.

>>108462178
The YouTuber who got together a coalition of millionaires to buy limited rights to sell something under the Commodore name, of which this is the first product (if it can even be called that, since it's just a collection of existing products sold in one box).

>>108462178
Working with three registers is much more fun than 14 registers and will make your brain bigger.

>>108461913
>I write drivers
For?

>>108454304
Multiplication and division is easy, doing it FAST is the hard part. Division especially. There are whole games with thousands of lines on the C64 that don't use division once.

>>108462243
currently working on the firmware for a card read for EMV, unipay, mifare calypso/desfire, etc.
in the past I've done driver/firmware for various gpio cards similar to the biodaq series from advantech or dio from aaeon, also worked for a sound card/interface company in the past.
there are less and less jobs for firmware devs in the west as everything is now outsourced to jeetopia so I plan on climbing the stack later this year as the salry is bad.

>>108462284
We can just store full 256x256 64kb math banks in the REU

>>108462138
How cool are they? I’m a zoomer so the oldest OS I remember is Windows xp. But old computers do look cool to me. I kinda want to make a stupid purchase.

>>108462138
Nobody except retards use composite out. Preferred output was Y/C.

Did they fix the issue with static electricity from the controller frying the insides? I remember AVGN talking about that.

>>108462911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_GF1Ya2aD0

Imagine the pixel gold we can make now with the ultimate which can do 64x the cpu speed and has 16mb memory.

>>108462919
*analog

>>108462940
Looks like X com.

>>108461695
The nearest Commodore Hub is in 1986, please be patient

>>108462178
>damn must be nice
not really. z80 uses more clock cycles than 6502 for most equivalent instructions. despite running at 3-4mhz it's as fast as a 0.9-1mhz 6502

>>108462940
that is one of the games 8bitguy was "inspired" by / blatantly copied.

>>108454284
>Usecase?

>>108455534
He's right you know.

>>108463159
Laser Squad is the game Julian Gallop made before XCom. It's almost 1:1 the same game on the tactics screen, except there is no geo screen so there is no research. It's just the turn-based battlescape. He still occasionally makes a Laser Squad game to this day.

idk what to compare petskii robots to, there was a spy game that was incredibly similar but idk the name of it.

>>108459117
>Hardware recreation,

So you are admitting that it's a replica.

>>108465485
It's not mimicking, it is