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>>108455970>core ultra 7 270k plus was designed in IndiaIndia superpower 2030. Also, /g/oobers, I have a question.I have a Z1 extreme cpu as part of my lenovo legion go s and I'm going to buy an eGPU dock and a gpu.What GPU should I get?
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>>108456004doesn't matter as long as it's Nvidia
>108456013Conducted using outdated drivers this is the real benchmark
>>108456037
>>108456030Yes very smart. Because if his PC is black screening constantly he'll be forced to go do something else productive instead of wasting his time on the computer
you guys are literally arguing over which soulless multinational corporation of pcie graphics add-on board is superior
Concise CPU and GPU guide for newfags>Intel + Nvidia = Faggot Normie Consoomer or Indian>Ryzen + Nvidia = Reddit>Intel + Arc = Brain Damage>Ryzen + Arc = Schizo>Intel + Radeon = Schizo>Ryzen + Radeon = Real PC Enthusiast #Pewdiepie approved
>>108456061actually we are arguing about a mentally ill canadian and his german autistic lost brother trying to trick anons into wasting money in EOL cards that will not support dxr 2.0 or SM 6.10 just like RDNA 1 did when DX12 ultimate came out on 2021
Has anyone else gotten the XFX Swift 9060 XT? I’m getting mine delivered tomorrow.
>>108456061lisa su sacrifices babies to moloch and also if you didn't play games with path tracing you didn't actually play them
nvidia xisters how do you like my TransForce RTX build??? I love generating AI female versions of myself in stable diffusion to make myself feel valid whenever my neo vagina starts hurting too much from all the rot and bacteria inside it.
amdbros is it true? are we going to be left in a ditch?
>>108456112>ITS RDNA1-RDNA2 which was developed for the PS5 all over againfunny how this always happen just before a new console generation happen, almost like Sony and Microsoft do it on purpose so they consoles dont lose against last gen GPU's
>>108456037wtf is processor even doing in this game
>>108456112radeon bros is this real??? I had to save for 3 years to afford my 9070 am I already obsolete soon?
>108456112>108456128>108456184Samefag njeetia nigger die in fire
>>108456213Give it up sister, you got taken for a ride by scammer suBest to take it as an expensive lesson and not repeat it next time
My humble 3060 Ti would kill itself if I got a 32" monitor, right?
>>1084562593060ti is going to have a rough time at 1440p or 4k in recent AAA if that's the question, both the raw performance and vram is going to be an issue.
radeon trannies lostedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrnj1phxK7Q
>>108456037>outdated driversNo.
>>108455970>Did you know the Core Ultra 270K was designed in India?Do you realize the Europeans and Americans are setting up India to become an industrial & technological counterweight against China & to a lesser extent Taiwan?These western nations want to reduce their reliance on Chinese/Taiwanese industries and still want access to competitively priced goods.That's why major conglomerates are building up manufacturing and R&D in India.But those Sandeeps need to rapidly build up & improve their infrastructure.The people who control these macro decisions don't give a shit about the ethnicity of their drones.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Middle_East%E2%80%93Europe_Economic_Corridorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Plus_One
>>108455970>2026>AMD cards still has driver software issuesSomethings never change.
>>108456583there's a reason for it
>>108456050>bought second hand gpu (with no warranty)This is a classic scam that preys on budget-conscious users. That GPU has most likely been used for cryptocurrency mining for years.Remember: no warranty, no purchase.
is 1440p 27" 260hz the sweetspotvery cheap slopdon't have a monitor still, no side monitor eitherdo I need more
>>108456669The 5070ti hasn't even been out for years. It came out February 20 2025. It's at most 1yo. And gpu crypto mining fad stopped like 4 years ago. People buy asic machines for mining. It's just a lemon somebody pawned off on him.
>>108456672That's fine for SDR, and don't use it in a dark room.
is this really the best budget 1440p monitor
>>108455970I regret upgrading to 32gb RAM. I should go to 64gb instead. Should i cave in with overpriced RAM, pcbg bros ??
>>108456941It's probably the safest entry-level miniLED in terms of what to expect.Q27G40XMN is a DisplayPort 1.2 monitor (refresh rate limited to 120 Hz @ 10-bit HDR), and there might be a firmware lottery involved to get the best HDR image quality (some units present poor image quality with DisplayHDR mode + Strong Local Dimming option enabled).
>>108455970>Did you know the Core Ultra 270K was designed in India?fact check:(ai)No, the Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus was not designed in India. The processor is part of Intel's Arrow Lake Refresh series and was developed by Intel, a U.S.-based company. While the physical manufacturing involves TSMC fabs and the packaging uses Intel's Foveros 3D technology, there is no evidence in the available search context to suggest that the design or engineering of the Core Ultra 7 270K Plus was conducted in India. The chip is listed as being sold by retailers in India, but this reflects distribution rather than the location of its design.
>>108456962for GAMING? why would you need more than 8gb for GAMING? My great grandfather never drove a car, do you think he had any "giggabitches"? He had a wife. You should have sex, incel.
>>108456996Sir it is kindly reccomended with having 16gb to read only ram under windows 11
>>108456996PC BUILDING GENERALNOT PC GAMING GENERAL
>>108457060If you're not a terrorist, what do you need a pc for?
>>108457077Naked anime lolis sucking dick duh
>>108456765It's cheap >>108456941Expensive + va + miniled Just buy an OLED
I use a computer to investigate this.
7800x3d on am4
5800x3d on am3+
>>108457845
AMDbros... I don't feel so good...
where's my $300 9950x amd??
>>108458235i await the 9700x3d
>>108455970Still no option for coreboot boards with ECC memory support on Desktop, aside from a handful of server boards (none of those are threadripper)
>>108455970Yeah..Uhm...OK......but No!It was not!!!
>>108456672> matte display trash
>>108458354its fake news anyway. arrowlake was designed by intel haifa/austinonly the 11700k/11900k were designed in india and intel noped the fuck out of ever making the same mistake after that
>>108455970It is good that Nvidia Fan boys keep Nvidia asleep.It is good for us all x86ers
>>108458385that's why intel has so many backdoor exploits in their chips, it's meant for the mossad to use them
Thinking of buying the Gigabyte MO27Q28G. I’ve never used OLED before. I’ve read that while 4th gen is very good, banding issues are still a problem. In my third world country, return policies are sketchy so i might have to live with it. Should I pull the trigger?
>>108458546Every unit is different that's why it's best to demo them in actual stores to know what you're getting. You may get banding or find the colors worse than QD.
So it seems the newly launched arc B70 uses the big battlemage 256bit dieSo where's the b770 at?
>>108458774Why is buying monitors always like a lottery? It feels like the whole monitor technology is extremely fragile and whimsical. Even if you pay a good amount of money, no matter the brand, you still can’t buy guaranteed quality.
>>108458877It's the same as buying phones. Not every phone is the same. That's why you demo them in the store at any retailer who sells them and the employees also encourage it. If you dont demo and just blind but you are an idiot to them.
>>108458919blind buy*
>>108458919that's absolutely ridiculous
>>108458951How? There's a million phones that all say android and have OLEDs but theyre all different from chipset, display, modem, etc.
>>108458973just go to gsmarena and check the specs and buy the phone online
>>108458981Anon OLED is organic. Everything organic is different. The same OLED you buy from Apple is not the same between devices.
>>108458981Not the same.
>>108458981You buy a Samsung phone expecting Snapdragon but you got a Exynos because you live in the wrong country third world poor.
>>108458991so you just sit in the phone store browsing jewitter for hours to see if the screen is good enough? that's nonsense>>108458998phones have specsheets, just don't be a moron and you get what you want
>>108459007choose wrongly and you'll be suffering from nausea inducing oleds
https://x.com/jackhuynh/status/2037159705395491033just posted
>>108458362that's 99% of all lcds brotherman>>108458546a bit more or even less at times can get you 4k qdoled>>108458877the higher expectations the more annoyances you will findplus preference and eye strain issues are very relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ErnOjwcWK8Bros? 9950X3D2? How many years until we get a 150950X4D2XTX1?
7800x3d on am4 is next, jack hyuuuuh told me
Lisa Su only does AI shit now, they got a dude to announce products for the peasants, notice it.
>>108458546The price is why you're looking at it in a 3rd world country. If you have the opportunity to choose one in person or just get lucky with the online purchase lottery like I did, then it is well worth the money. The banding that may remain after several auto cleaning operations will generally only be visible on a very specific kind of flat grey across the entire screen. Just doesn't happen all that often in practice.
>>1084591300% gaming performance increasejust avoid the scheduling memebetter I guess?
>>108457949>check amazon>270k plus is $357 USDWHERE IS THE 299 MSRP
>>108459187or you can just buy qdoledI would recommend 4k minimum for normies
>>108459202it'll cost $199 in 3 months
>>10845920220% sales tax?
So /pcbg/ what are the current recommendations for a 27" 2k monitor? Was considering:>GigabyteM27Q2 >Lenovo R27qe Gen2>Dell AW2725DMGenerally leaning towards the Gigabyte because of the type-c and built in KVM
>>108459289280hz qd oled
>>108459289bro, take the ultrawide pill, trust me, you want that (unless you use multiple monitors)
>>108459324>implying i want to deal with burn in>>108459331yeah the idea is to stay on a dual monitor setup but replace both my current 24" FHD monitors, as one of them is about shit the bucket.
>>108459079>>108459130they were camping the 270K's spawn point this whole timeRIP to intel
>>108459198good for VM fags i guessno e-cores and no het-cores
>>108459387intel's next step they gonna be likeyo I heard you like gayming with guys without estrogen-cores so there you go, bartlett lakeand amd is going to respond with the 7800x3d on am4 and intel is going to commit mass sudoku in tel aviv
>>108459400that'd undermine their entire cuck core strategy so i doubt itthough it would be cool to have a true 12-core cpu on the market a whole year before zen6 drops
>come back to my idle PC on my desk one day>WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUBI can't fucking tell if this is one of the PWM Fans or Toshiba hard drives because holy shit why does it have so much bass. I can hear it pounding in my brain.
>>108459387By releasing a CPU that nobody has the money for outside of big content creators who can swap a top end CPU for another top end just for clicks. Intel just needs to stay the course until Nova Lake and they'll claw back the mass market.
I use amd but this is a good feature, they are catching uphttps://videocardz.com/newz/nv-uv-enters-open-alpha-for-geforce-rtx-50-series-rtx-5060-and-laptop-support-planned
>>108459400>7800x3d on am4Is this an actual leak or fantasy
>>108459618speculation over old leaks saying that amd tested zen4 on am4 and also over amd recently saying they'd resume production of am4 cpus but weirdly being taken in the most positive possible interpretation of backporting zen4 to am4
>>108459633amd also had Warhol which they cancelled to launch zen 4, it could make a come back if the demand for am5 remains low
Astral LC 5090 vs AC 5090? I only had the LC available at a much lower price than it usually goes for so I pulled the trigger. How badly did I fuck up?
>>108459600>one-click presetsThat has never gone wrong ever.It's also not official nvidia.>>108459387Anyone who needs something like that already has a 9950X3D. Plus all you need to do is tard wrangle process lasso.>>108459839>AIO GPUThere's a reason it's much lower than it's normal price
9850X3D part 2.
>>108459868wasting silicon on that shit when they could've be making 5800x3d and making tons of money instead
>>108459868>8% performance increasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QgtVlp4EM
>>108459839AC would be my preference if keeping the GPU for long. Not that it matters much since you can just buy the astral air cooler off ebay from Chinese factories that strip off the GPU core and vram to make 5090 AI blower cards and convert your LC into an air cooled version if the AIO dies outside of warranty
>>108459851Having to micromanage thread scheduling is why I bought a 9800x3d a year agoHad the 9950x3d2 been available then, I would have bought that instead
>>108459851>There's a reason it's much lower than it's normal priceIt's worth more than the AC version, at least in my country
Is 27acdng solid monitor or there qre better newer options?
>>108459883Why would they make a 3 gen old chip?
>>108460095its 3rd gen qd oled. any other brand that uses same panel will be similar. msi, alienware, aoc, etc.
>Astral 5090>have been using the 12V2x6 cable that came with the PSU>ampere of one pin goes lower and lower while the others go up>nearly hit the 9.15A on one pin>get myself a cablemod 12V2x6 cable with 90 degree adapter>similar results with 9.08A on one pin in worst casethe coil whine is nearly gone and it looks cleaner but I'm wondering at this point if this is the GPU connector itself. Gonna try one of those MODDIY cables next as those have spring leaf connector terminals and not dimple
>>108460125it would sell more than any other amd chip, probably more than the 9800x3d
>>108460169memory brands are irrelevant, the only thing that matters is the chip manufacturer
>>108460191people are dumb, specially american "people"
>>108460095its solid but dont overpay for it
>>108459618It's just extreme copium by poorfags that waited too long to upgrade to AM5 before the memory crisis and are now stuck at a dead end.>t. 9800x3d and msi tomahawk x870e owner upgrading to zen7 12 core 11800x3d in 2028/9
>>108460169>>108460191you had to take some redditors word for it and it worked out well. you could have easily gotten m-die or mystery meat scam brick.
>>108460252zen 6 is 12 cores, zen 7 is 16 cores
>>108460257If my memory of the MLID leaks is correct the core config of zen 7 will be the same as zen6 it will just bring an IPC and frequency increase
>>108460271no, zen 7 also has a core increase, 16 per ccd
>>108460169Redditors (and retards here honestly) love nothing more than their "enthusiast" brandsSpecs and value are irrelevant it seems.
what is the best brand for sata cables?
>>108460139No shit it's the dogshit 12V-2x6 connector. Just undervolt, you'll lose ~3-5% performance but use 100w less putting it within a somewhat decent safety range.
>>108460169Lexar's just a brand that Micron sold to some Chinese company. Longsys.
>>108455970Why are you all so tribalistic?Why is it always a dick measurement contest?Reddit basedboys with their nvidia slopAnd 4chancels with their amdoofiesAt this rate, I would rather spend on a handheld pc>>108456047Is that supposed to be a female bathroom's sewage?
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71bq8Kyr
>>108455970Used 64 GB of DDR4 Ram at $220 Unfortunately its RGB. But i dont have choiceYay or Nay ?Can DDR4 last me until 2030 ?Image for easy (YOU)
>>108460662yes it'll be good enough until zen 7 in 2030
>>108456084>21yo canadian jamboy talks about newfagslmaooo you were BORN a newfag. Correction, you can't even be classified as a newfag. You're some underage subhuman post-cancer.I can write a paper about how amdrones are the same in every generation for the last 25 years I've been in pc buiding.It's both hilarious and entertaining to see it with your own eyes.
>>108455970Do you really need a 16gb gpu if you're just playing at 1080p?
>>108460949If you're trying to weigh out a 5060ti vs 5070 vs 5070ti or something, at 1080 and 1440p 12gb is not realistically going to be an issue for a while. For 1440p way things are going just raw performance or featureset is still going to cuck you first, 1080p I wouldn't even be thinking about it.If you were considering an 8gb gpu, you already have to make genuinely significant compromises even at 1080p. AAA games that are borderline unplayable probably aren't too far off. Just go buy a 3080 if you're poor
>>108461046>If you were considering an 8gb gpu, you already have to make genuinely significant compromises even at 1080p. AAA games that are borderline unplayable probably aren't too far off. Just go buy a 3080 if you're poormy 2020 laptop asus q733qs with 3080 laptop (130w) 16gb vram using 5.6Gb VRAM for high settings Cyberpunk 2077 1080p.All 16gb VRAM I can use only by AI models.No vidya can use all my VRAM for last 6 years.>>108460949>Do you really need a 16gb gpu if you're just playing at 1080p?for sure answer is NO
>>108459883Faggots should have released the 5950X3D when it exists as a prototype
technically the PCIe slot can deliver 75w but from what I can see the 50 series card I have gets all its power from the cable. This isn't something I could change via BIOS setting right?
>>108461332no
you know whats really weird? them putting a random 8 pin power connector on the bottom of the motherboards for no reason.
>open 9950x3d2 video comments>please please amdaddy give fsr4 on rdna3
>>108461454they need to move to linux already
>amazon cancelled my cheap 96gb RAM after making me wait 3 months>didn't even give me a discount or anything for the inconvenience
>>108461518Didja complain to support about how they basically took an interest-free loan from you?
>>1084566721440p ultrawide is the nexus of great performance, great viewing experience, and lowest pc-performance requirements. As opposed to getting a 4k monitor and struggling to maintain fps above 60 without a 90 series card.
>twitch extension to block ads now "contains malware" ebin
>>108461753which one
So with DLSS 5 now a thing are dual GPU back?
MLID said zen 7 is on am5bits and chips said it is in am6who's right?
>>108462206Whichever way fucks the customer more.
>cheapest new 18tb hdd is $389>mfw i got one for $239 in 2023it's actually over for real isn't it?
i refuse to ever pay more than $15/tb on spinning rust out of principle. Weird how inflation is outpacing technology now.
>>108462520you elected the orange retard, you'll get retarded policies, inflation is only warming up, it'll be hell for the next 3 years
>>108462129NVLink has always been here but its never for gaming. You can dual GPU in 3DMark but there's no point other than scores.
>>108462550i didn't vote for him.
https://deepcool.com/products/Cooling/cpuaircoolers/ASSASSIN-VC-ELITE-Vapor-Chamber-Elite-CPU-Air-Cooler/2025/21850.shtmljust got this beatiful baby and it's crazy to think amerifriends can't buy literally the best air cooler ever made because their zionazi masters won't allow it
>>108462687I did consider getting one of these.But, it'd always annoy me how there's nothing else on the market to match the aesthetic.
>>108460139the 12vhpwr terminals are tiny and can shift over time from thermal cyclingive seen some testing over people using tweezers to pinch the terminals in the cable socket back into place and changing the current balance that way
>>108460169gskill has a brand markup the same way asus rog gpus/mbs doits a ""premium"" brand thing
>>108462206other leakers like bullshit buster and kepler_l2 havent outright denied mlid's info so there's a 30% chance he's right
Between these should I get the XV271U, the 27G610A-B, or the Odyssey G5 G53F for half off? Or do I just get 4k
>>108461454>top 5 comments on 9950x3d2 announcement vid kvetching about fsr4KEK
>>108461454Windows tax
update your windowshttps://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/march-26-2026-kb5079391-os-builds-26200-8116-and-26100-8116-preview-7c9e2275-b9ba-4068-aeb0-23da42b81d3b
>Monitors can now report refresh rates higher than 1000 Hz.>When you use a native USB4 monitor connection, the USB controller can now enter its lowest power level while the PC is sleeping, which helps save power.>Auto rotation reliability has improved after resuming from sleep.>HDR reliability has improved for displays with non-compliant DisplayID 2.0 blocks.>Monitors with DisplayID now report a more accurate size when the WMI monitor APIs are used.
>>108462977I'm on windows 10 until 2032 then I'll move to linux, unless they kill recall completely
>>108463003move to linux already or get windows 11 for the native nvme driver its a game changer
>>108463015windows 11 is awful, I only consider changing to it because they are saying they'll improve it and remove ai spywareI should just move to linux already but I don't want to reinstall
just got my 9070 XT to replace my 3080 for Linux reasons, I'm going to move to an AM5 CPU like a 9800X3D in the coming months but how bad will I be getting bottlenecked by my 5600X in the meantime
>>108463096not much, x16 pci gen 4 is still fine
>>108463117cool, I won't fret too much thenmaybe I would have noticed more by going 9800X3D + DDR5 first, but swapping cards takes less effort
>>108463131u should wait for zen 6 next year unironically, I think it's going to be a big upgrade from zen 5
>>108463141Intel will be better.
>Found reasonable priced RAM>.......Its RGBFuck
>>108463245Post link fag.
>>108463282Team force Delta R
>>108463141>>108463193I waited 5 and a half years to upgrade from a 5600X, it's fucking time and I don't think Zen 6 is going to be good enough to make me regret spending the money now
Wait for DDR6 instead
Question for gaming fags. I'm using a wireless logitech keyboard and mouse that uses the same USB plug and it is honestly terrible. I'll play completive games and not only does my mouse freeze for sometimes multiple seconds, leaving me unable to aim or fire, but my keyboard sometimes freezes up and I am not able to move at allWhat are some decent mouse and keyboards I can get? I want something that isn't too expensive but will solve my lag issue. Also for reasons I won't get into, my PC is quite a bit away from my desk and most wired keyboards won't reach it. Would USB extension cords cause any lag?
>>108463423zaopin z1
>>108463245just turn it off with openrgb
>>108463403oh boy I can't wait to pay $1000 for 8GB RAM running at 9000MT/s
I wish my computer didn't sound like a fucking vacuum cleaner every time I game with it, even at 1440p
>>108456941I recently upgraded to a nicer miniled but yes this is a very good budget option.
>>108463423The distance of PC from your desk might be the issue with the keyboard and mouse issues. The signal might be weak once it reaches you. I'm sure Logitech claims those little usb receivers they give you have like 3 meters of signal length, but they don't say it's 3 meters for a strong signal.USB extension cables shouldn't add any significant amounts of latency from my understanding.
>>108455970270K plus Yay or nay?
>>108463574they're all marked up to $350++ now, it's too late...
>>108463541My PC is not that far away from where I want the keyboard abd mouse. It's just far away to where most wired keyboards are unable to be oriented right to my monitor. If my keyboards had like 6-8 inches longer in wire length they would be able to work just fine. Same situation with my mouse but maybe in needs a foot more in wire. My PC is like 3-4 feet away from the area I usually keep my keyboard but it's the orientation of the tower that makes the cables too shortAgain, I am considering all of this for the sake of ensuring my keyboard and mouse stops lagging. I'll often find my mouse freezing and I am unable to aim where my enemies are nor use my click to shoot and it usually fucks me up in performance. it happens much less often but when it does, it happens often, but my keyboard will often become unresponsive and it looks as if all my previous inputs I gave while it was not responding suddenly hits the PC and it goes through all my inputs quickly before it registers my current input and it really gets on my nervesFor reference, the keyboard and mouse I am using is a logitech mouse and keyboard combo that I got for like under $50 that is pic related
>>108463574I am a "buy quality" guy, so I don't even consider x3d parts, or intel consumer cpu.When (consumer) intel cpu get old, they endanger your data
>>108463646I am a "talk shit" kind of guy so I don't even answer questions directly, or try to stay on topic When I (shit talker) get onto /g/, I endanger the thread's activity
why so much desperate damage control from AMD buyers?
>>108463646>>108462128Duality of man
I'm aiming for longevity. My current PC is from 2019 but needs a refresh. Going to hold out on buying the GPU and just use my current 2070 in the build for a while. Where did I fuck up?
>was told 9950x3d2 wasn't going to appear until later this year so went ahead and built 9800x3d pc last week>it's going to be released next month
>>108464241>Longevity>AMD GPU
>>108464293The CCL is split and not shared. So, it'd require games to use more than 8 cores to utilize the CCL on the second set of 8 cores.Performance on gaming will probably be identical to the 9950X3D1, but I may be wrong, I'd wait for actual benchmarks before you get too bothered by it.
>>108464296>Longevity>Nvidia GPU
>>108464307Oh I'm not worried about gaming, I wanted the 9950x3d for productivity stuff but I heard 9950x3d2 was going to come out later this year and I had already bought a bundle that came with the 9800x3d. So I thought I'd just get it built before prices got worse for anything else, and then wait.
>>108464296Well I was gonna keep my RTX 2070 for a while before upgrading, so might not even buy the 9070.
>>108463633>6-8 inches longerYou should be fine with an extension cord then. Just find whatever the cheapest extension cable you can find. Then find a cheap basic mouse and keyboard combo, or check thrift stores, with a physical connection with extension cables if needed try that out first and see how it goes for you.I've really only ever used Logitech mice and keyboards so can't tell you what to really get. I use a G502 Hero mouse which I think they still make, and a G610 keyboard which I don't think they make anymore. Only thing on Logitech mice is you can get a bad one where the switches break easily and they'll double click within a year. I had Logitech replace the one I had, but they made me jump through a lot of hoops. The replacement has been fine since. And the keycaps on the keyboard have broke where they don't want to sit in anymore, but that took some years. Finding replacements for them can be expensive for whatever reason.
>>108464346It's a real pain in the ass how quickly they drop support. I get you can't continue stuff forever, and obviously it's not like it doesn't happen for other companies. Nvidia did it with RTX itself, and even DLSS has limited support on older RTX series.But the whole FSR situation is a mess right now, and I feel like it's only going to get worse when AMD does finally make the jump to having whatever their version of tensor cores are taking up more of the card.I think it's an absolutely fine card if you're wanting to play shit now and can justify the expense. But, it's not gonna be like the 2070 where you get like 5+ years from it.
I need to start my PC by shorting the power button pins. Is it gonna explode if I touch another pin by accident?
Are mprt features for monitor a meme or are they actually helpful for FPS gaming
>>108464647Not really, no... thst block of pins just handles the power/restart button and some activity lights.
Any ram experts that can tell me what I'm doing wrong? Pretty high voltages near or at the limit of what's safe for everything and TestMem5 Absolut still errors out within 10 minutes trying to run 6200mhz with just expo timings. Did a sanity check and stock EXPO ran for nearly 2 hours with no errors before I stopped it. At this point I suspect it's either something with the expo timings or I have an impressively bad memory controller. The latter wouldn't make much sense though since I can run the 6000cl30 EXPO no problem with just the normal 1.2 VSOC and according to buildzoid even a bad MC with +100MV should get another 100 mhz of UCLK
I just got a 32 inch 4k monitor, and now I have to turn on my AC in the morning, otherwise I'll sweat
>>108465021very impressive AMD silicon nicotroonhonestly though idk, try tRCD/tRP 38, the rest of your timings are loose enough already
>>108464843Thanks.
I have my GPU connected to a HDR display using the nvidia default settings, and sometimes (more often than not actually) the colour space or something similar keeps fucking up and looks desaturated. The only way I can fix this is if I fuck with the nvidia image settings or toggle the windows colour space management setting. But sometimes this doesnt fix it so I have no idea what is causing this issue, if its an nvidia issue, windows or a display issue. Or maybe something completely unrelated.
>>108465021Update your agesa to 1.3.0.0a instead of of preEnable power down modeDisable nitroSet tras and trc both to 78Lower your vsoc and misc voltages they're too high
>>108465261Use a ICC profile. If programs ignore it then its a driver/windows issue.
>>108465314Is that the windows calibrated profile? The issue I'm facing is in SDR i should clarify. I turn HDR off when I'm not playing games because i have my HDR settings quite bright and saturated which looks great in games but shit for browsing and watching videos.
>>108465326If you set a ICC profile everything should follow it unless the application chooses to ignore it. In chrome you would go into flags and force a color profile for example.
>>108465416forgot pic
disclaimer: i have not built a pc in 15 years. in fact the first pc i had was done by my dad after i got my first job still in my teens and this case is the only thing left from it (antec nsk-4482b, a 16 year case)questions:- how do i cable manage this? this PSU is like 9 years old so i think it comes with more connectors which makes it messier than modern builds. the side panel has no space or holes to run cables through it- i see that modern cases and pc builds have like arrays of fans at the front, bottom and sides. is this a non-negotiable thing nowadays? this has my brother's old rx 570 and 3400g which i understand to be lower power hardware which doesn't get too hot- wait, is this PSU even safe? i mean, it doesn't make any weird sounds or have intermittent flicker, crashing, etc and doesn't seem to run hot
>>108465806>how do i cable manage this?Can't do much beyond zip tying the longer/loose cables.https://youtu.be/eIcG67pwYOg?t=462That PC's fine without front intake & rear exhaust fans.>wait, is this PSU even safe?Enermax PSUs are decent, it should have standard PSU protections like overpower & overvoltage protection.If you're worried, check the official product page/spec sheet of that PSU and double check its protection features.
>>108465855thanks for the quick replythis is a thermaltake litepower 650w which i believe was one of the cheaper PSUs bought after the old one that came with the case died. i don't see any bronze/gold/whatever safety rating for it though i'm not sure if i need it if it's an overall low power system which i assume doesn't spike too much when gaming so i'm way under the limit
>>108465894If you got 9 years out of that, you should probably get a new PSU.Good 650W PSUs aren't very cost-efficient, you can pay about $20 more for a decent 850W PSU you can carry over to a stronger PC in the future.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yhpQzy/adata-xpg-core-reactor-ii-ve-650-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-corereactoriive650g-bkcushttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/sqbypg/montech-century-ii-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-century-ii-850wI'd just get that Montech 850W and use it for the next 10 years.There are cheaper 550~650W PSUs, but they still cost over $50.
>>108455970Just bought Eye watering $300 for a mere 64gb of DDR4 RAM, bros. Hopefully it can last me until 2030
>>108465979i've been looking on ebay and it turns out i have a $20 off $50 min spend coupon so i'll look for the lowest 500w bronze PSU since i'm not going to upgrade from thisanother thing is that after watching your ASMR video, i thought about putting the 3.5" floppy cages back in to stuff all the excess cabling in there, but that made me realize that the current airflow situation is kind weird. the case has a spot for a front 80mm intake fan and i put it in the allocated space, but it feels like it's too low and passes air past the gpu exhaust instead of towards the motherboardthere's an indented honeycomb pattern space right above it, i'm thinking of putting it there instead but i'm not sure the screws have a place to attach the fan to it
>>108464241>I'm aiming for longevityDon't buy a 9070
>>108466085You don't have to worry too much about airflow for that 3400G and RX 570.Maybe learn how to undervolt that GPU if you want to run it a bit more cooler & power efficiently.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfo7YsFvXU8>ebayI would stick with a brand new in box PSU.If you're buying used, do some research about the model's release date and check whether it has Over Voltage Protection (OVP), Over Current Protection (OCP), Short Circuit Protection (SCP), and Over Temperature Protection (OTP).These protection features are meant to save the rest of the PC components if it needs to kick in.
>>108466172oh yes, i'll be buying new. saw an EVGA 500w bronze for $59 (so $39 in my currency = $27USD)i'm off to do some screwing, bye for now~
>>108461651there is no cheap good 1440p ultrawidefalse mentally ill
>>108463245oh nooo not colorsThis has to be the most pathetic snowflake complaint imaginable. Just buy the fucking ram and stop crying. The existence of colors isn't going to turn you gay/trans or whatever schizo nonsense you started believing because a blue checkmark or /pol/ post told you so.>>108465806If it still works, it still works. PSUs generally don't go bad just because they're old. If they're bad, they were either always bad, or something happened to them. Maybe replace it if you're doing a full new build in the case, but it should be just fine otherwise if you're just going to use the same hardware.
>didn't buy ps5 pro on 730€ sale>Ps5 price increases just hit>+150 eur ps5 proKeke this console just increases across life spanIt's over Buy quick or no GTA slop for you A ps5 pro is now gonna be 1000€
>>108466394I bought a ps5 and xbox 5 years ago
Alright so many years after my build I now want to increase my ram speed. Been trying but it's stuck on 2133 after I try enabling XMP.i9 9900 (non overclockable)16 gb corsair vengeance ddr4 (2x8gb)asrock z390 taichiFrom what I see the mobo should support the speed. What am I missing?
>>108466357Those ROG lights better be on if you paid the brand premium.
>>108466357I wouldn't recommend bending the cable like this. The GPU-first does jack shit as well from my experience other than making the cable even more miserable.
>>108466394lowest entry point is the xbox series s and i was thinking about it a while ago but then i remembered the xbox 1 (original) version of it where if you walked a few seconds away shit would despawn, or it'll have framerate drops or just generally less people around the cities
Any thermal paste recommendations for a desktop CPU?
>>108466653Check the ram speed in task manager or hwinfo64Sometimes, ram sticks have the stock speeds hard coded into their name string
>>108466834OP used to have practical recommendations like that until the feral manchild hijacked it.>TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet>*Most listings online are not actually 7950
>>108466879I heard you're not supposed to use PTM 7950 for desktops is that just nonsense then?
>>108466963It's just a waste of money for most people. Pastes like MX-7 and Duronaut last long enough (5~8 years).You don't have to spread MX-7 btw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnV05lP4eXohttps://www.igorslab.de/en/arctic-mx-7-thermal-paste-in-the-test-the-price-breaker-also-becomes-an-icebreaker-in-the-top-10/
>>108466844Taskmanager shows 2133PC is showing a "CMK16GX4M2D3600C18" string
>>108464241this is so bad it has to be a shitpost
I've been vacillating between two mid refresh 1440p VA monitors for a while. One is about $150, the other is $300 with the only notable difference that the expensive one has ok, but not great HDR with miniled local dimming (dimming algo far from optimal). The response times/smearing should be basically the same according to reviews and so is SDR performance because the local dimming is garbage outside HDR. I never had a HDR monitor before, do you think it's worth $150? And before you suggest something cheaper, I'm in the EU and have to pay fuck you taxes on everything.
>>108467094>only notable difference that the expensive one has ok, but not great HDR with miniled local dimming (dimming algo far from optimal)This isn't worth 2x the cost of the SDR VA monitor. Save that $150 for a better HDR monitor in the future.These things will only get better.
>>108467107>These things will only get better.I'm sure they will, but you can say the same thing at any point in time. If I get a monitor now I won't be getting a new one for like 5 years.
>>108455970Isn't the Arc B580 okay for 1080p?
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>>108466879It's more important people know thst nvidia is evil and their drivers are buggy shit that can't run a cartoon children's game without stuttering than to have bloat like thermal paste recommendations Get real
>>108466795Maybe its the photograph but none of the power cables are bent, they all have plenty of slack to them, the braiding makes them very flexible (it's a strix 1000w platinum)>>108466772I have to give it to ASUS, I plugged in my ROG Claymore keyboard that I bought in 2019 and the armory crate software has linked together the RGB of the mobo, gpu and keyboard, even though theyre like 6 years apart in manufacture date, consider me impressed it was also like 1 click in the software to do it.
>>108467386I have the same cable just in a bit worse cause whoever assembled it made a mistake so the cables of the extra two pins are tangled between the other. If you're not powering a 5090 it shouldn't matter that much but the terminals of the connector at least on my cable have some play which can screw with the ampere. Asus also doesn't offer a replacement in case you break it and no third party sells the GPU first cable though I haven't seen it improving anything for me.
>>108456400why does that look like a 600 lb arm in the thumbnail?
>>108467376>'It's more important to validate my purchase.'You’re just the punchline to your mother’s biggest regret: settling for your father.
>>108461454it's a major blunder. they're releasing new APUs with RDNA 3 in them.they need to make FSR 4 run on RDNA 2/3 even if it doesn't boost performance as much as FSR 3.
>>1084616514k ultrawide isn't a thing.
>>108462206don't really care, gonna sit on my 7800x3d until the final generation of am5 falls below MSRP then buy that 800x3d.next gen consoles still aren't bumping up cores, in fact they're reducing them because of the handheld, and the Steam Machine is shipping with a 6-core, and only 2 of them are real cores, so 8-cores is still overkill.
>>108462985who are you quoting?
>>108467490I just press each component in firmly until I hear a click, or if the connector is fully in contact flush from all angles in the port.I can take a PSU out of a system or install one in like 5 minutes flat, count the cables you need, note where they need to go, 90% of building a PC is planning where everything will go.
Before the news about FSR4, and the potential future issues with FSR5, I happily recommended AMD cards to people.But since all that came out, I just can't in good conscience suggest people get a card that's got such a limited lifespan ahead of it.GPUs are expensive purchases. People should be informed as to what they're buying. If people know all the facts, and still opt for AMD, that's completely fine. But, I disagree with lying or withholding the reality of the situation.
ps5 price increase
>>108467696Get used to playing Switch 2 compatible cross-platform titles if you're a gaymer.
>>108467692I just bought a ultrawide monitor and I went to check how's the performance with my 9070 xt would be and one of the biggest nvidia shills on youtube was creaming himself over how good fsr4 was and how he can finally recommend amd cards to people.
>>108467546>>108462977
>>108467767FSR4 is good enough for most people, DLSS 4.5 isn't perfect either.People just have to accept they're only entitled to the features supported at the time of purchase, everything else needs to be treated as a bonus.
>>108467696at least they're giving you the heads up. nvidia already raised prices on all gpus without telling people. 5080 is supposed to be $1000 msrp but the new msrp is $1300.
>>108467779AMD should port fsr4 int8 to older cards, it's actually insane that they don't, I believe they are/were waiting for steam machine to launch it but valve keeps delaying it. It would obviously be a massive selling point for valve to put the fsr4 sticker on the steam machine.
>5070 non ti costs the same as a 9070xt
>>108466085>>108465806i threaded some cables through the holes on the side and also pushed all the unused cables up into the 5.25" bay areanext i'm going to cut some pvc filter mesh to cover the open sideon the backside of the case is a spot for a 120mm exhaust fan which has corroded....i never knew cases needed one so my old q6600 build it fried itself since the air couldn't escape :)
Are you ready for incoming price hikes for desktop CPUs, since AMD and Intel will focus on server CPUs?
>>108467798I still think it's a complete miss that AMD priced the 9070XT so highly.Even against the 5070, you can make the argument that the 5070 has DLSS, RT, better productivity and is therefore a better choice in some very specific circumstance. If AMD had actually gone low with it, it would have been a steam roll.
>>108466391i figured that the cooling fan's lubricant would've dried up by now or that the capacitors are old and the power system isn't prepped for the next generation off hardware but you are right - it just *works*. i'll keep it around as a back-up
>>108467824I can keep up with this market price if I need to buy a new PC.Your employer or your income should cover the need for a new workstation PC.
>>108467696>>108467783the ddr5 ram i bought a week ago that was hugely discounted even went up by 20$its like even the stealth deals that are going around are getting bumped up, the fuck is going on with this AI shit man, have people given up?
>2,200 USD>US>Using the PC for gaming and AI with some adobe and recording guitarsThank you anon for your help
>>108467840nobody is buying the 5070. thats the point.
>>108467871Are you delusional or trolling?
>>108467884nobody is buying 192bit bus gpu when they can get 256bit.
>>108467924
>steam surveymade up data
>>108467924Why did people buy the 256bit 1070 over the 2048 bit vega 56?
>>108467776so the Windows update is just for mobile.
>>108467924Nobody without a chip on their shoulder is talking about irrelevant shit like you are.
>>108467924Why buy any other GPU than a 5090?
>>108468060you dont want to trip ocp
>>108468060Don't argue with these people, if they had a 5090 themselves they wouldn't even use it.
>>108468060>Why buy a GPU that requires third party WireView plugin
>>108468085Optiscale fag detected.
>>108468112fsr4 is baked into proton. normies dont even even to think about it. its on by default for cachyos. 5090 owners have to baby their product irl like its gonna cough up a nuke.
Whirrrrrr
>finally have some money to begin building a pc>low end ddr4 ram is costing the same as high end ddr5 ram before the inflationwhy did this have to happen during my turnalso it seems my only cpu options are either 5700x or 5800xt, everything else am4 disappeared from my shithole's market
>>108468190Pony up the cash bub, this aint a hobby for penny pinchers.
>>1084681905600 from aliexpress? 5-8% performance loss compared to 5700x in games and costs 60%
>>108468060because I don't need to spend that much money to play my games.
>>108468245You sound like you jerk off to dead or alive so who the fuck cares what your opinion is lmao
>>108468262weird projection.
Was thinking about this LG dualup monitor for CAD work but its been discontinued.I found this Japannext monitor that, from the specs, looks like it uses the exact same panel.Has anyone used this company before?https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/JAPANNEXT-2560x2880-Resolution-Vertical-JN-IPS276SDQHD-HSPC6-CMS/dp/B0F4WPRMZY
out of my way fucking peasants
amd - cherry dr pepperintel - mountain dew code bluenvidia - surge now 7up
>>108468311Surely it's just the same panel in a new plastic housing?There can't be that many versions of that sort of panel, can there?
My Galax 5070 Ti seems to report a memory junction temp that is about equal or rarely even less than the core temp. I think I very much rabu this card.
>>108468311The stacked view on top doesn't look so good for your neck.
>>108468152>5090 owners have to baby their productNope. 600w all day.
>>108468339AMD - HondaIntel - SuzukiNvidia - Kawasaki
>>108468505nvidia sensors are inaccurate to begin with thats why people need third party tools
>>108468520>Roll a 1d10000>lands on 1>Your 5090 blows up or whatever>Nvidia sends you a fresh one and an apology.>roll a 1d20>Lands on 2>Your AMD drivers cause issue with your computer.>No refunds.
>>108468554>third party toolsThose third party apps are calling the same GPU sensor reporting functions from the NVAPI/NVML.
>>108468200don't really have enough disposable income to build an overkill pc despite inflation, so just gonna downgrade t b h>>108468230thanks, looking into it right now and, that does seem to be a very common advicethere's this used 3080ti that caught my attention, could use the spare money on it
>>108468578nvapi is inaccurate thats why pcat exists
>>108468578last time I bothered looking into the command line with my nvidia card, I remember that 99% of it was inaccurate for anything but the professional cards.
My AIO appears to have died, and I was thinking of just going back to a fan cooler. I have a nice big case, but it's very old:Corsair Obsidian Series 750D CC-9011035-WW Black Brushed Aluminum and Steel ATX Full Tower Computer CaseBut my cable management is nonexistent, so I'm not confident that one of those thiccboi coolers would necessarily fit. It SHOULD, but the crazy one I saw that's like a vertical brick of metal with two fans on the sides is probably not the best idea for me.Honestly, at this point I probably need to just get a new motherboard and processor (AMD), but for now I can probably get away with just getting a cooler since I don't have immediate needs beyond that.
>>108468728Except NVIDIA's PCAT doesn't have a separate VRAM junction temperature reporting sensor.PCAT is for accurate external power monitoring, while NVAPI/NVML are for internal silicon telemetry.PCAT doesn't even have any physical connection to the VRAM chips.Know what you're talking about if you don't want to expose yourself as a loud & empty wheelbarrow.
>>108468790>nvidia sensors are inaccurate to begin with thats why people need third party toolsso thats why people use wireview and other probing tools
I shoulda bought a motherboard with 4 sata ports instead of 2......
>>108468806Keep mentioning external power (voltage & current) measurement tools when the guy in >>108468505 was talking about his 5070 Ti's memory junction temperature, which NVAPI/NVML sources from the memory chip's internal (on-die) thermal diodes.That's the limitation of your inferior brain.https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-reviewer-toolkit/
mom said it was my turn to bake>>108468855>>108468855>>108468855
>>108468807sata card
>>108468789That case has plenty of room for cable management, you might as well clean out the dust and give your PC a facelift.https://youtu.be/b1X1ur2-LFg?t=312
>>108468902Yeah I'm sure I'm worrying over nothing. Should I just get a big chonky heatsink then?
>>108469210A big dual tower air cooler is nice if your CPU draws over 100W near max loads or if you want a quiet system.Smaller air coolers are fine for CPUs that draw around 65~90W.https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rw7scf/scythe-kotetsu-mark-3-6762-cfm-cpu-cooler-scktt-3000
>>108469367Thoughts on these?DeepCool AK400be quiet! Pure Rock 2Noctua NH-L9iDeepCool AK500
>>108469430I'd skip the NH-L9i (extremely small for your case and overpriced) and Pure Rock 2 (old and probably overpriced).You can't go wrong with either of the DeepCool coolers.if you think the Pure Rock 2 will be quieter, and it's reasonably priced, it's not a terrible purchase.
>>108469430>>108469367Why not the Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE or Thermalright Royal Pretor 130?
>>108469665It seems like Tom's Hardware favors the latter over the former in terms of performance (but the order is swapped because of cost) but other reviewers say the cheaper of the two, the PA, is actually better?
>>108469665I didn't recommend the Thermalright dual tower coolers because I was assuming that case owner already heard about them.Those Thermalright coolers are fine if you're not too picky about the fans.
https://www.costco.ca/p/-/lg-smart-340-in-wqhd-curved-monitor-3440-x-1440/4000444382?storeId=10302&partNumber=4000444382&langId=-24&catalogId=11201thoughts?
>>108469804>Panel type: VA Curved>Refresh rate: 100 Hz>Response time: 5 msBad for gaming, guaranteed smeary blacks due to slow response times.Fine for SDR multimedia consumption.
>>108469862thank you
>>108469876never buy VA