>Scientists at CERN transport antimatter for the first time ever. 92 antiprotons, in a custom designed bottle that trapped the particles using magnetic and electric fields, took a 30 minute journey in the back of CERN’s truck.Is this a joke? I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or something.What kind of technology are they going to make with it?
my dad works at CERN he says its real and not a joke
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or somethingthen you need to go do some real studying. anti-matter is very much real
>>108456622>Put big label on the truck bodyAre they retarded?
>>108456660>anti-matter is very much realLiterally the most expensive thing in the universe. No possible way in sight of making more of it at a time or in a scaleble way. Seems pretty fake and gay to me.
>>108456682i can't tell you if the story is real or not but anti-matter itself is real and has been produced in experiments. for example, colliding two high energy photons with create an electron-positron pair
>>108456622Current 'science' is bit like audiophiles and their snake oil equipment. Lots of wishful thinking and speculation but not that many real results...
>>108456676run silkpaper though rollprinter apply easy remove sprayglue add to weatherproofing tarn not that expensive to use in marketing
>>108456622Antimatter is very real, though it's really just normal matter with it's charge reversed. What you're thinking of is dark matter, which yes is some bullshit that astronomers plug into their equations to cope with the fact that their model of gravity is wrong.
Steins;Gate and its consequences was a mistake.
>>108456622dark matter and dark energy is the made up stuff your thinking ofantimatter are very real and are just charge reversed versions of regular matter
>>108456622antimatter isn't negative matter you fucking retard
No dark matter / dark energy is the completely made up "explanation" for why celestial bodies move faster than we think they should. It's completely unobservable, untestable, wholly postulated. The fake explanations involving antimatter have to do with speculating why the big bang didn't produce equal matter / antimatter which then would have completely annihilated one another. But as for the actual stuff that's real and we can see it, make it, trap it, and evidently drive it around in a truck.
>shake box>there's clearly something rolling around in the box>"there is an object inside of this box">"YOU DON'T KNOW THAT STOP MAKING STUFF UP"
>>108456676Because it's all smoke and mirrors. It's good enough to fool the masses. Particle fyzzycs is fake and gay.
>>108456695>i can't tell you if the story is realAre you calling CERN liars?
>>108456756>What you're thinking of is dark matter,You're right. So what donqe do with antimatter? Besides joyrides.
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>>108456763We're on the bad timeline and whoever fucked us needs to put it back.
>>108456906wrong, hilldawg isn't on her 3rd term
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or somethingbased retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron_emission_tomography
>>108456622I sure hope they hired Tom Hanks.
>>108456676i can’t imagine there’s any sort of market for this shit if that’s what you’re implying
>>108456957i know a nigga that wants a vial of antimatter
>>108457019fuck off iran you already lost
>>108456884If you can manage to get enough of it you could use it as a bomb I guess. Though the ammount of energy you would need to keep it from interacting with normal matter would be astronomical.
>>108456622You're confusing anti-matter for dark energy. Anti-matter is just backwards particles.
>>108456682>>108456695usecase of antimatter?
>>108456957It's to distribute it between other labs in Europe. Not everyone has their own dark matter maker 3000 at home.
The concept behind dark matter is interesting, the idea that there exists stuff we physically can't detect because we lack the tools.But as with a lot of stuff in chemistry and physics it ends up lame like how half of all known elements don't do anything interesting besides give you cancer or how exotic particles could create exotic matter or even interstellar objects, but doesn't.They also build a lot of silly things to try and detect it, such as that clearer that air water tank in Japan. What will they build next once they again don',t detect shit, I wonder?
>>108456622>be demon>CERN summons you to this world>thisgonnabesomerealshitlmao.jpg>get locked up in the back of the truck
>>108456695>colliding two high energy photons with create an electron-positron pairhow the fuck do photons collide?
>>108457241404 use case not found
>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation that's dark matter
the antichrist is made out of antimatter
>>108456622>>108456676Most of modern "science" is just corporate larp to attract investors. Especially now when AI is being phased out, everyone will be throwing big scientific claims and create theatrical shows thinly veiled as scientific experiments.Expect the same faggots asking for gazillions of dollars just to build some cool sounding thingamajig that definitively will end with big sounding revolution in two weeks. Slap on it some kind of vague military and government usecase and you'll have recipe for becoming filthy rich and influential really quick.
>>108456721Retarded take. Fourier had no clue about radio waves and signal processing when he came up with his funny time to frequency domain transformation. Science may be just dicking around for its own sake sometimes. But the stuff it comes up with can be critical for developing world-changing technology a hundred years from now.
>>108456875I guess Hiroshima and Nagasaki got one-shot by bombs filled with fakeness and gayness.
>>108457241>usecase of antimatter?Drop it into black holes to annihilate them. I can't think of any other way to get rid of the fuckers if one pops up in your neighborhood.
>>108457661Then he'll blow up right after spawning, lmao.
>>108456622No it's real, 'mirror matter' probably is a better description then 'anti matter' tho to understand it as a leyman
>>108458291So like particle chirality?That's... actually nothing new or really groundbreaking. Like, actual nothing burger unless they figured out some new, stable r-particle with actually interesting properties. IIRC, most r-particles we already have either don't interact with anything or is extremely unstable and fall apart immediately.
>>108458369What? Antimatter is not related to chirality. Antimatter is not new or groundbreaking either though. The only interesting thing here is that it was transported, as it's extremely different to store yet alone move without instantly self-immolating.
>ITT: retards confusing antimatter with dark matterAntimatter has been known to exist for 100 years now, you fucking brainlets
>>108459408They’re both useless wastes of money. None of this helps humanity in any way.
>>108456676>anon sees a warning label for the first time
>>108459496>t. slurps up all the aislop and melon husk scams
>>108459496Antimatter could have incredible potential if we had a way to create large amounts. Fusion would be forgotten overnight as we'd never have energy problems again.
>>108456622https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/mar/14/please-drive-carefully-scientists-plan-to-transport-volatile-antimatter-for-first-time
>>108456622This technology is called:Cozy OfficeFree tripsNo real job (just act you doing science)Well above average state funded wage .All possible benefits.Titleetc etc It is clear that Dark Matter must be real only we need another decade and new falulotron !Copy Paste withGlobal warming Science fiction!!! and ow to capture dark matter ?It is big science !!!You take aluminum bottle close cap so there is dark inside bottle!And now you have dark matter in bottle !
>>108457503Simply!!!You just act like photons collided!You are under Science protection.No one have slight clue or dare name you as Scammer.
>>108457241Annihilating matter cucks.
>>108456622You're thinking of dark matter.
>>108456622Antimatter annihilates with normal matter to produce radiation. This reduces E = mc^2 energy. Similar to nuclear power, but releases vastly more energy.It is basically the most dense way of stoeing energy. It was predicted by an ewuation that happened to include anti matter. An anti matter particle is basically the same as a normal particle going backwards in time afaik.It has little to do with black holes specifically (should behave same as normal matter). But if it ever touches ANYTHING made of normal matter (everything around you) it will annihilate and disappear.
>thread suddenly gets spammed by bots
>>108456622Nah, antimatter is real, the trick is containment
>>108456622>92 antiprotons,How big of an explosion would that be?
>>108462039about three fiddy(It's not really magic, antimatter touching matter releases all of its mass as energy, but 92 antiprotons don't add up to anything relevant, the explosion would be insignificant (about 2.766E^-8 J))
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or something.That's Dark Matter. Something something unaccounted for mass or whatnot. Antimatter is very much real, and it's characterized by completely annihilating its promatter counterpart and producing pure energy when they collide, kinda like what happens in my bowels when I eat sketchy week old pasta and sketchy week old antipasta.
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or something.Nah, its real and detectable, just by nature it annihilates really fast. That's why this is a big deal, if you can trasnport anti-matter you can attempt to use it for some applications. I'm not expecting FTL or doomsday devices any time soon, but it could lead to something cool.
>>108462399>Something something unaccounted for mass or whatnotDark matter is called "dark" because we can't detect it with our current tools. It isn't so much unaccounted for mass as it is noticeable gravitational interactions in places where there isn't enough matter to cause such interactions.
>>108456622>What kind of technology are they going to make with it?If you could make enough of them, you could use this to re-arrange matter to make any type of matter you desire. Not at any scale like Total Annihilation commanders making entire tanks and factories from hairspray, but small scale production of extremely rare matter could be an industry into itself.
>>108462039it would destroy about 98% of the visible universe
>>108457762Now THIS is some hot of the press, new in hands, record breaking COPE. Now here's to hoping we get the sequel, savory SEETH.
>>108457814Not how that works. If you dump antimatter into a black hole that was made of matter, what happens? Assuming there's anything resembling matter still in there (unknowable), the antimatter and matter annihilate into energy... which is still trapped inside the event horizon and contributes to its mass in the same way.
>>108462444good, I'm sick of this place anyway
>>108456676>>10845695792 protons of antimatter, completely useless to anybody outside the research team, worst case scenario when mishandled it would turn into an infinitesimally small amount of energy, who cares about the label anon, its compliance
>>108462580>into a black hole that was made of matterBlack holes are not made of matter.
>>108462039>>108462444>>108462586not even an explosion, it would produce just enough energy to lift a single grain of sand by a fraction of a millimeter at best
>>108462580uhhh, to the outside observer it would take an infinite amount of time for something to actually fall into the blackhole, you would just see the antimatter approach the event horizon and then its time would freeze
antimatter is extremely common, the problem is getting it to not touch literally anything
>>108456622>Highly opinionated>Completely fucking cluelessThe least this site could do is permaban these retards
>>108456622Isn't anti matter just matter that has an opposite charge? How can they even keep it safe without annihilating itself?
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or something.You are probably thinking about dark matter anon. Anti matter is very real.
what if I told you that the entire universe outside of our solar system is actually made out of antimatter? humanity will never be able to colonize the stars
>>108462039Probably a small fart that you can't see
>>108457241>usecase of antimatter?when it collides with normal matter, it goes bang.and by go bang I mean something like half a teaspoons worth would equal the bomb dropped on hiroshima, 10 kilos of it would have a blast yield 3 times larger than the biggest thermonuclear weapon ever detonated (the Tsar Bomb, which by comparison weighed 27 tons).
What would happen if you had sex with your antimatter clone?
>>108462781neither of us would be virgins anymore
>>108462781Plap plap kaboom!
AKSHUALLY the positive energy and negative energy cancel out and they simply cease to exist
If that vehicle contains antimatter, why doesn't it float away like in that anime gif that used to get posted a lot?
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>>108456622>magnetic and electric fieldsThey're not separate. Two sides of the exact same coin. There literally cannot be one without the other. Some brainlet jeet wrote this article
>>108462627>was made of matterdoes not mean>is currently made of matterUnless you're making a kugelblitz or whatever the hell, any black holes encountered will have been formed from regular matter.
>>108463072you don't know that, presumably at some point the universe was nearly 50-50 normal/anti matter and what we're currently left with is the error
>>108462627>Black holes are not made of matter.They absolutely are. Everything physical is matter. Dark matter doesn't collapse into physical objects, and dark energy is not matter, thus not physical. Do we know what happens to matter past the event horizon? No. Does that mean black holes aren't made from matter? No. And they definitely don't seem to be pure energy.
>>108463297jesus christ anon read a physics book
>>108463300What did I say that was wrong?
Can one of those scientists fuck something up and kill us all alreadyI'm tired of this dogshit world, just smash matter and antimatter and blow up the planet or whatever the hell it is they do
>>108463297>Has masscheck>Has volumeA (non-rotating) singularity has no volume. Whatever happens inside a black hole isn't likely to let incoming material remain in the same state it was on the outside.
>>108463821Rotating singularities have no volume either, it creates a 2 dimensional ring or circle. Think of it like a torus where the radius of the swept circle is zero.
>>108463894That makes sense, I wasn't 100% sure and wanted to hedge the statement. Either way whatever happens in a black hole is probably beyond the point of classifying it as matter or not.
>>108463894You are an idiot.
>>108456622Most Part of Modern Science is just SCAM hiding behind Science!!!CERN is great and obvious example of it!!!
>>108456622>What kind of technology are they going to make with it?jack and shit for now, it's a proof of concept right now. they transported antiprotons and now more labs get to experiment with it.the main one would be energy obviously. antimatter annihilation produces a lot of energy, 1g of hydrogen and antihydrogen would produce around 42 kilotons of TNT, a low-yield nuclear bombproducing the antimatter however is orders of magnitude more expensive with current technology.this entire thread is also a stark reminder of how low-iq this board actually is.>>108462781given the weight of the average mutt I'm pretty sure at minimum a city or even state would disappear in a giant crater upon the first plappa.
>>108456622Gaps in the equation are often later on created and proven.
>>1084566221g of antiproton = 3 Hiroshimas = 5000 household's worth of electricity for 1 yearIf you want to supply all of USA's household electricity needs, you'd need 70kg of antiprotons every year.92 antiprotons is less energy that a piece of dust floating in the air.
>>108460683nobody thinks of it as an energy source. it takes at least as much energy to create antimatter as you get out of it due to thermodynamics. you can't generate energy out of nothing.in reality it takes a lot more energy because the process uses a lot of energy and so does the containment. antimatter has to be suspended/trapped in electric and magnetic fields.at most you could consider using it as energy storage. like a battery or fuel. but there are much better and safer options.
>>108462766you'd be wrong.most of the universe is made out of matter. which is curious in itself, as there doesn't seem to be an advantage for matter over antimatter. you'd expect their distribution to be about equal. but it isn't.
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>>108456622>retard hands mashed this post into existencenice>>108456682> Seems pretty fake and gay to me.no, you're just a dumbfuck retard>>108464514>not copingyet another deranged schizo thread created by losers gets flushed down the toilet.. agian.
>>108456622I think it's cool that they're able to transport antimatter but does it have a use outside of scientific experiments? Sorry if I sound like a low IQ individual.
>>108456622today I learned CERN is actually a real thing and not just from Steins;Gate
>>108465745there is a difference between generating electric and magnetic fields. they are not the same. it does make sense mentioning both separately.
>>108464452>nobodyThat's it's primary use in basically every sci-fi. It releases tremendous power when contacting standard matter, and both parts are consumed entirely through annihilation. In reality, it could serve as either a massive source of fuel, or a devastating weapon.
this thread is worse than reading a press release about science written by a retarded no science journalist who just shits out a bunch of cobbled together science-y sounding words.
>>108466896I concede that "nobody" was wrong, as already proven by numerous posters in this thread.but it's not a realistic use for the near future. using it for energy/as fuel only makes sense if you have excess energy, via another process, you want to store, or if have an interstellar source of antimatter that you figured out how to mine. i guess it would be the most energy-dense fuel possible.
>>108467029Truth be told, we'd probably get a net gain if we didn't need to spend more than double the potential output in making it. We already have the matter, so we pretty much start at the halfway point. This does make me wonder if there's a way to just annihilate matter without using antimatter at all.
>>108457503"Presto - Light Creates Matter"https://kirkmcd.princeton.edu/>>108457241Collimated beams of bound state positronium for the Department of Defense
>>108464484That's not suprising at all. If you flipped a coin a million times you wouldn't expect 500k heads and 500k tails. Even if it's just random chance and no universal preference, you'd expect one to be slightly greater than the other and then after annihilation that'd be the only one left.
>>108471336>the difference is massiveare you retarded? maybe there was a trillion trillion times as much matter at the start of the universe then it all annihilated and what you see now is the left over
>>108456622>I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or somethingHow can you be this uneducated? Antimatter doesn't have to do anything with black holes. Antimater exists in every b+ decay chain.
>>108471336How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?
>>108464240i was thinking energy would be a good application for it, but i think we spend a trillion times more energy to produce a particle pair
>>108466590>they are not the same.Magnetic fields are the same as electric fields, just from a different perspective (moving reference frame).
>>108471345There is no physical explanation for the breaking of the symmetry in the early universe. One of the greatest mysteries that our models fail to explain. If everything went exact by math, there should be no matter at all just background radiation.One hypothesis predicts an earlier particle, that doesn't interact with anything but gravity (dark matter). This particle could have created gravity wells that somehow separated matter and antimatter (if matter interacted with gravity just a tiny bit differently than antimatter, it could have separated enough to form a whole universe: CP violation).
>>108471362>they are the same, there is just a difference between themso they are not the same. I accept your concession.
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>>108456622>Is this a joke? I thought antimatter was just made up to fill in the gaps of some equation regarding black holes or something.You're confusing antimatter and dark matter, they're different things.
>>108457241enough destructive energy to destroy the earth itself, not just the population as with nukes
>>108456622it's a grift to save their careers.
>>108456622Antimatter exists and has been artificially around for a while, you're thinking about dark matter. Tje problem with antimatter is that its like the ego of your average twitter user
>>108456622>drive a truck out there for a bit to bedazzle the goys and give us another billion francs to perform—snicker—"high energy physics" with>If they give us 10 billion we'll tell them we discovered the God Particle
>>108456884It could be a good fuel with the right technology because it's very energy dense (it releases a lot of energy when annihilated with normal matter). However such things are far beyond existing tech.
>>108456858You're a retard. It's not an explanation. It's a name for the observation that galactic dynamics etc do not correspond well with theory in some circumstances. Since the discrepancy looks a lot like missing matter mathematically, physicists naturally gave it the name dark matter. It's not an explanation, it's a phenomenon that has been observed. What the "dark matter" actually is remains an unsolved problem.> It's completely unobservable, untestable, wholly postulated.Then why do> celestial bodies move faster than we think they should.?That is an observation. That is the basis of the idea of "dark matter". It's not the name of a solution, it's the name of the problem.
>>108456875watcha up to, Cixin?
>>108471410>dude, you're a brainlet jeet if you even talk about the different projections even though they are clearly independent and have different properties. because they originate from the same objectwhat even is your point?. magnetic and electric fields are not synonymous. there is no 1:1 correlation where you can say if the electric field is X the magnetic field has to be Y. they are also generated with different methods.
>>108457055>>108457642>>108459408>>108461407>>108462399>>108462753>>108471517>>108471644are you just bots or why do you not even bother to check if it hasn't already been explained in the first replies 2 days ago, when the thread was started?
>>108471737It is literally impossible to make a net energy gain from antimatter because of how energetic the collider needs to be to make it. It is at best only useful as a shitty way to do nuclear fusion or making fun mininukes
>>108472008energy gain isn't always the goal. Think mobile applications, ships, applications tht can benefit from a highly energy dense material. Basically an RTG that can produce more than 100w.
>>108471992Nobody is autistic like you to read the entire thread anon...
>>108472442>read the entire threadit's enough to quickly check the replies to OP. one of the first ones already explains it.i'd even argue you have to be autistic to not even consider that it's already been explained in a thread that is 2 days old and has >100 replies
>>108456622theyre going to make post-nuclear bombs10x the explosive power of tsar bomba in a fraction the sizethe only safe bunkers will be multiple miles down
>>108462039about the size of 1, potentially 3 texases. under some circumstances it could be 3 texases and 15 football fields.
>>108462039Its simple, E = mc^2. The rest mass of a proton is about 938.27 MeV/c^2, therefore 92 antiprotons would be 92 * 938.27 MeV/c^2 * c^2 = 1.383 * 10^-8 J which is literally nothing. Realistically of course you would need real mass to annihilate with so you woudl do 92 protons and 92 antiprotons, so about 2.8 * 10^-8 J which is still nothing.
>>108472872>post-nuclear bombsYou can scale up hydrogen bombs without a limit though, and it would be cheaper and way less expensive to do. What this could perhaps used as is armor penetrating beams, since any form of matter would be removed and converted into an explosion.
>>108462768typical for farts. If you can see them something's gone horribly wrong.
>>108462805I found the gif I was thinking of, but it's tiny.
>>108456622Wait until we diacover that white holes actually exist, and will make the inferior black holes obsolete. Imagine the melties.
>>108456622>custom designed bottle that trapped the particles using magnetic and electric fieldsshouldn't they need an anti magnetic/electric field to contain those antimatter that i assume has anti-electron whizzing around it?
>>108462039e=mc^2 niggayou can figure that one out
>>108462777Damn I hope Iran doesn't have a matter inversion program.
Is there any truth to the fact that CERN was made by the left overs of the Nazis specifically to dominate the world Wolfenstein style?
>>108472008No shit, it's for energy storage. It's still a fuel.
>>108473591Antiparticles have opposite charges, there isn't a separate set of charges for them. An electron is negatively charged, a positron (the anti-electron) is positively charged.
>>108457389Those are for detecting neutrinos, not dark matter.
>>108456622Who cares, 90% of modern "science" is fake and gay.
Anti matter is not dark matter you absolute retard.Antiparticles are very well understood and experimentally confirmed.
>>108456872You actually better hope that stuff is not rolling around. It's just 92 antiprotons, so that's very little energy, but even half a gram of this stuff annihilating with the box is roughly 30% more energy than the Hiroshima Bomb.>>108457831And take out possibly the entire earth with him.A 60kg man annihilating is equivalent to 2.57 Gigatons of TNT. Although, more likely, only some particles near the surface will get to collide with the power of a few hundred nukes and then the rest of the antimatter mass will be blown into space, following an empty trajectory without any collisions for millions or billions of years.
>>108473128Depending on the distance, the beam will possibly just annihilate with air.>>108473566That'd be something that's gravitationally repulsive, which isn't really possible as far as we know.
>>108456682>most expensive thing in the universe.casual reminder that money is fake
>>108472008It's possible application is as a fuel/battery with an insane power throughput in very little mass that leaves no residue (besides destruction). Nobody's trying to make energy anon.>>108467081That's what fission of heavy elements and fusion of lighter elements does. We just destroy matter to make energy.
>>108477827Turns out the US alone consumes 10 times that energy yearly, somehow. The scale of the modern world truly is incomprehensible.
>>108457241Positron emission tomography (PET)
>>108456622>What kind of technology are they going to make with it?Safe transportation is the first step to weaponization.Have to be able to transport your payload to where it needs to go 'kaboom' ...
>>108463821singularities aren't real
>>108471964NTA but you are a very confident idiot.
>>108477863Fission requires stuff that already lacks stability. I'm talking more common stuff like carbon or hydrogen.
Oy gevalt we have discovered that IRCG is producing anti protons we are there launching an executive military strike to defensively remove all of the protons of Iran
>>108471992do you actually read the thread from the beginning instead of just replying to the OP?lmao
>>108478109the kaboom this would release wouldn't even a harm a fly>bu-but they can just make more and enough to kill everyoneHow many Petajoules are you willing to invest into something that can be achieved trivially with chemical explosives?
>>108460683Sure And if we have magic we could just summon food from the astral plane and end world hunger for the 4th time in human history
>>108478315You can fuse stuff with net energy gain all the way upto Iron. Technically though, the mass difference is due to the nuclear binding energy rather than some particle self annihilating.
>>108462785based
