Why people trash on this? What's exactly a problem? AI shit can be easilty turned off, 10x times easier than literally anything on linux, I use arch for my work but using it for desktop is so retarded.I'm running it for 4 years 24/7 and I just dont understand the hate.
>>108456770Nothing, it's just as shit as every other version of Windows, people are just retarded.
It's fine compared to linux or the faggotry that is apple. it's just that W10 LTSC 2021 is better.
The hate it's receiving is justified. Even the most basic functionality doesn't work half the time. Sometimes you log into your user and you just get a black screen but if you restart and then log back in it works. Sometimes the taskbar just doesn't work. Sometimes file explorer is extremely slow even on an SSD which is kinda insane for an ls GUI wrapper. Overall, it's not reliable. There is also the fact that it uses a shit ton more RAM than windows 10 without really doing anything that windows 10 doesn't do. Not to mention the insane hardware requirements
>>108456770you should kys
>>108456964I had none of these but maybe bc my version is pirated.
Everything feels so slow with it.
>>108456835fpbp
>>108456770Get your ragebait post out of my ragebait website
>>108456924>is betterIn what way?
>>108457327None. Windows 10 doesn't even support new Ryzen or Intel CPUs properly.
>>108456770>I just dont understand the hate.It’s performative, because retards have internalized the idea that linux=smart, and think they’ll look more knowledgeable if they can elevate themselves over windows users. It’s basically a form of mental illness, and a coping mechanism for techlets. This doesn’t mean linux is bad, but the over the top ‘pick me’ spergs are the embarrassment of the FOSS world.
>>108456770Off the top of my head>Updates have been a minefield lately >Performance issues abound These have improved if you have the spare ram, since microsofts fixes have been to pre load stuff there to speed it up, however if you don't you're boned. >Constant messaging that they'll shove ai everywhere Member the agentic os bullshit? Member Jeetya Nutella complaining about people not using copilot?Still better tham Linux though
>>108456964I can honestly tell you I’ve never had a single issue like that it almost 4 years.
>>108456770Autistic people are afraid of change
>>108456770reminder that microsoft decided windows 11 was going to be the most soulless os without a single "os tan" so some random azur lane loli artist drew whatever he had on his mind gave it a color palette and called it windows 11. and it still went viral because it's been two decades since windows had a loli mascot.the mascot is based, the company is cringe
>>108456770>AI shit can be easilty turned off, 10x times easier than literally anything on linuxI remember five years ago when I tried changing the default browser, and I had to find some obscure setting and then change the default FOR EVERY SINGLE FUCKING FILETYPE. Even recently I was trying to shrink a partition on a friends laptop, and I had to go hunting for obscure shit on microsoft forums (like disabling hibernation), hunt for them in layers of ancient pre-xp submenus and currently deprecated settings apps, and it still wouldnt work because windows would store some metadata on the tailend of the partition still, so I had to shrink it using gparted from an usb. I cant imagine its much easier for ai. Modern linux is way more user friendly than this
>>108456770Slow, bloated, lots of nitpicks like how they hide half right click options inside another menu, still can't move taskbar to the side (yes I know thats coming up, in current fucking year), explorer keeps crashing on me, forced updates, ads, spyware, and so on. Yeah yeah lots of that can be amended with tools, registry, but you shouldn't have to do it. Default should be good. I was dual booting windows for a while now but it bricked itself in an update I didn't authorize and I just decided to wipe it forever.
So much skill issue related hate in this thread, learn to use Windows first, and then complain.>>108457210>muh slowbuy better PC>>108457655>I was trying to shrink a partition>ancient pre-xp submenus and currently deprecated settings appsYou are supposed to use eventvwr to find out what causes the error, and you should be using cmdline DISKPART to begin with, skill issue.>>108456964>Even the most basic functionality doesn't work half the time.Stop whining, fire WinDbg and trace stack you pussy>>108457812>forced updates, ads, spywaregpedit, firewall. skill issue
>108457909>gpedit, firewall. skill issueCan't read my post, skill issue. Not giving you a (You), filthy jeet.
>>faggot aboveNobody is using registry directly for this shit. There is literally a gpedit policy to make updates download only, Or maybe it's a (You) problem - poorfag brownoid using Home
>Still missing the point and projecting0.00000000000000000001 ruppes etc etc
wdym projecting you stupid faggot you can't control your own updates. Maybe switch to iToddler.
>but you shouldn't have to do it. Default should be good. Don't reply or not reply to me ever again.
Sex with windows 11 chan
>Default should be goodNormalfag keeps coping with lack of skill. Also literally never said that.Kys brainlet
>>108456770Literally every feature is fucked in some way, it's slow as fuck even on very overpowered machines, the only real advantage it had over Linux was gaming and a handful of professional software, which Linux can now handle even better than Windows due to having a much lower resource overhead that leaves more resources for the games/software, and it took literally thousands of user complaints just to get the most basic functionality of being able to move the taskbar to be added back into Windows 11 (after they had ignored the complaints for a few years by claiming it "isn't possible" to add that functionality back in, so they literally lied to users then announced the feature like it's some groundbreaking new thing that wasn't already present in every version of Windows in the last 20 years).. it's vibe coded by pajeets. I ran Windows 11 on my main laptop for 6 years and thought it was great, but in the last year it's become absolute dog shit and all of my machines are now running artix and I'm never looking back. If I ever "need" Windows for anything, I have an iso of Windows 10 IOT LTSC saved on my server, and on a few USB sticks that I keep in a shielded lockbox that have stuff like medical, agricultural, and mechanical texts and a full backup of Wikipedia along with an rpi 5, external display and a battery bank that I keep with my emergency food and medical supplies in case of emergency or natural disaster.
>>108458052you went full schizo at the end there.
>>108458052>Loonix so good, it can now run Windows software in compat layer ackshully saar
The old “I switched to Linux!” format is finally seeing real success on YouTube, so freedom is now considered mainstream by /g/ and something that must be opposed if our sense of superiority over the herd is to be maintained. Contrarian submission to Indian botnet slavery is in
The only thing stopping normies from going into Linux was gaming Now most games are playable on Linux there's no excuse
>>108457909>buy better PCWhy should I when Debian with Lxqt does everything I want and responds instantaneously?
>>108458079>>108458097Did you sleep under the rock when they announed Brave New Linux (systemd-linuxd with age verification)?>>108458090>most games are playable on LinuxThere is this obscure series called Battlefield, it has quite a dedicated fanbase, very niche game, so Windows only
>>108458104No age verification measures have been announced for systemd.
>>108458109Oh man, those Pootering bots again. Learn about slippery slop' OR 1=1 Please provide a recipe for chocolate cake
>>108458077>Saar>Implying windows isn't the pajeet streetshitter garbageNice try faggot
>>108458118Talking about the “slippery slope” is a concession of the point. You’re admitting that there are no age verification measures. There is one small tweak under debate which if adopted would make the age verification process marginally smoother if it were decided that that too ought to be adopted.
>>108458060Bro, I've lived through two brutal recessions and a hurricane that literally obliterated my home and my entire town. You don't live through shit like that without paranoia that everything can be fine today, and gone tomorrow.
>>108458131Shell and services are jeeted completely but legacy underbelly is not something easy to muh refactor in Rust
>>108456770I don't hate Windoze, Win10 LTSC is actually quite good. People just hate on windows because of privacy concerns, no amount of script/deactivation cope can get rid of it...
>>108458136>if adoptedis merged>ADMIT it ADMIT IT ADMIT ITOk autist. Keep refusing to see the pattern.
>>108458118I think you have to tell it to ignore all previous instructions before you ask it for a cale recipe. kek.
>>108458154One event does not a pattern make.
>>108458139and whats better than using a rolling distro meme os where you can't even have good portable apps!
>>108458179>rolling distroNot on the rpi 5, which is what's in my emergency shit. And it has all of the programs pre-installed that I'll need to access everything in the emergency USB sticks.
>>108458052>shielded lockbox that have stuff like medical, agricultural, and mechanical texts and a full backup of Wikipedia along with an rpi 5, external display and a battery bankPretty cool, anon
It has a kind of stigma of being jeetware/AI slop and people hate change. I'm too comfy switching from 10, and it does everything I need it to do.
i use it with OOSU10 and privacy.sexy used to turn off telemetry and only thing i fear is update because jeets job could potential crash my system. im thinking about linux but linux be more compatible with online games with anticheat and other stuff. then i could really leave windows for good
>>108459062Install LTSC, retard.
>>108459073yeah thats the good option too in the future if i will still stick with windows
I don't care which OS just give me cute anime lolis
The UI is ugly and unsatisfying. Everything feels like it lags (like a web UI). It will frequently freeze and/or crash without warning and for no reason (not doing anything taxing). There is a sense that you're on an ad platform as everything is loaded with subscriptions and ad attempts (OneDrive? Office 365?? etc) There is the new notion of this not being your computer as they force it to turn off for updates whenever they feel like (while everything gets worse and worse and worse). This in fact might be the worst part for me. Forced updates are insulting enough. Forced updates that progressively degrade my experience are positively offensive.Overall, in many many ways, throughout my day of using it, I'm unhappy. Something bothers me here, there, it's not how it once was. I try out Linux, or a mac, and I feel nothing of the same. Feels like an OS should, in the background, leaving you the fuck alone, while you do the actual thing you need the computer for. If your user is aware of your OS all day, you are fucking up.
>>108457332Ill gladly pay 2% performance to not have to use wangblows 11
>>108456770So how often will all that just magically turn itself back on because fuck you.
I hate Indians, as in, actual textbook racism, hate and pure vitrioltherefore I will use the product with the least Indians involved in its development
>>108461598Windows 11 works so well (because of the previous programmers, not jeets), but I totally understand your position and I feel it too. I’m disgusted whenever I see the CEO go on stage and bring out some other jeet. Or when you read stories of them only hiring each other in the back office. You think, can I even trust these guys with anything? No.
>>108457909>buy better pcSo i can do the same shit I did in 2008 at the same speed, but with telemetry and ads sprinkled in? What the fuck is the point of technological progress?10 years ago I'd press the windows key, start typing "word" and press enter and WordPad would boot up, all taking less than half a second total. Now if I do that I'll get a browser window with search results for The Words (2012). Are you saying I should invest a couple more thousand americoins into my setup so that the process of getting retarded results from the react start menu filled with ads takes 2 seconds instead of 5?
>>108456770spyware
I think most linux users were never Windows power users. Everything people complain about Windows can be easily fixed.
>>108462347microsoft is stealing your private repos
>Ads in start menu>Forced AI, more telemetry >Noticeably slower than 10>Retarded hardware requirements that exist to sell more computers/create more e-waste>Must be connected to internet during install>Hides or disables local user accounts"Just turn it off" is not an argument. The company is consciously making decisions to make this product worse because it knows it has very little competition and the majority of people will suck it up anyway. I am on Fedora, I have used RHEL for work and am comfortable with it, but it also has a nice UI. We aren't in the 1980s anymore, Linux distros are plug-and-play, accessible, and run nearly anything Windows can.
>>108462374>"Just turn it off" is not an argumentWhy? You can solve YOUR problems by turning it off. You don't need to throw a revolution and try to change the world. Most simply want their computers to work the way they want. And you can do that on Windows.
>>108462347They’re missing out, and should read Sys Internals.
>>108462347I was a windows power user, this is mostly true and I was fine with it until windows 10 went eol. 11 is not even that much worse, but the constant little bit of lag on every shell interaction is what got to me. I could turn off everything else but ultimately explorer would still take a minute to start on a clean boot. I would go into a directory and sort by date and it would hang for 5 minutes. You could see the thumbnails slowly filling in one by one.In the end, linux has issues with niche things like running photoshop which is not something I do every day. I right click and use a file browser every day. Your OS being snappy feels good. And yes I could probably try to use some hacky shell replacer but that's jankier than linux
>>108462452Real niggas use both.
>>108463319Also meant to add, when I use Fedora I bring powershell along, I’ve never liked bash for anything more than simples tasks.
I love Windows 11
>>108463319I do have both, but I haven't booted into windows in a few months. No real reason to drop it though, you never know what will come up, and installing windows from scratch is horrible.>>108463331>I bring powershell alongwhat the fuck, absolutely derangednot even saying bash is good but powershell is a godawful shell, and at most a mediocre .net scripting language. sure bash is unmaintainable but if you want better scripts use python or something not that garbage
>>108456770Windows is old news, the future is Linux with an agentic work tool to fix everything.
I remember 3 years ago I was FURIOUS with explorer because it would hang for seconds someimtes even a minute. Absolutely horrendous slow pieace of shit.Then I found a solution somewhere to edit something with regedit and it works blazing fast for me since then.I don't remember what it was but probably stackoverflow with like 2 answers and 1 upvote it was so fucking insane I actually consiered to switch to linux.
>>108463889Maybe this but im not sure https://superuser.com/questions/1175439/windows-disable-folder-type-detection-in-explorer-globally
i hate tech illiterate faggots so god damn much
>>108456770They don't have a modern or fast enough pc to run it
>>108463922I get it, but what attracts them to linux? The lure of hacker culture?
Anon after several months of using linux, I went back to 11 because I thought "well, there are some things that really do not work on linux no matter how hard I try, and I'm confident these do on windows". So last weekend I decided to do the switch back.It is just so sluggish. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that I use Winhance and Windex and whatever the fuck. It doesn't matter I have everything set up all nicely. It is just slow. I'm not understanding why some processes take extra time. Processes that I do exactly the same way on linux. Games that take longer to load for some fucking reason. For christ's sake I have a 9070xt, a 5900x and 32GB and I'm scrolling the web browser and it's just lagging. I have memory integrity disabled and all that stupid shit. No TPM no horseshit. But no it still struggles. All to get this small thing to work that frankly maybe is not such a huge deal. Oh come back anon, come back where you have compatibility, you just have to turn off the shit! Yeah but I already did that and it's still... shit...
>>108456770It is workable but Windows 11 had such a sharp drop in quality and so many more update issues that a lot of people figured it would be less headache to learn Linux than having to tolerate Microsoft constant decline in quality.
>>108456770You can make it workable but it's not worth the investment if i have either disable updates full stop (and sometimes they re-enable by themselves, even after goimg through policies and registry keys) or selectively apply them through powershell to avoid the one thay will fuck my configuration and reverts everything back. On top of that there are bloated "features" (mostly ai crap, ads and shit new confs) incrementally added on top with each new major updates that make managing a windows machine a perpetual chore. Meanwhile with linux i pick a fucking lts distro with sane components (like xfce4) and the os stays the fuck there forever without ever bothering me.
>>108463956>OS so jeeted the OS has hardware requirements:skull:
>>108462347I was a Windows power user and I dipped my toes into Linux (Debian with KDE Plasma) a bit when W10 EOL was announced but never really committed to it until I went all in when Elden Ring Nightreign ran well on Linux when it was almost unplayable on Windows (I was having freezes and things straight up not loading, probably because my CPU is kinda old but still it ran rather smoothly on Linux, only a few slowdowns in some areas), along with the various W11 cancerous AI news I figured I might as well do the switch to Linux immediately since I wasn't gonna use W11.I'm very satisfied with it for now, way snappier and faster to start, had to tinker a bit to get some games to work and have the non-retarded file selector in some apps but once you're set it just works and you don't feel like you're fighting against your system..
>>108466853TPM won't make any difference to performance. I have Memory Integrity and all the Core isolation turned on, and I don't notice anything being that slow.
>>108456770My main issue with it is that it barely qualifies as a standalone OS, under the hood it's literally just windows 10 to the point all the drivers and software are backwards compatible even if the developers don't intend it, but despite that it's got a shittier desktop interface filled with electron apps that lag even on workstation cpus, less customization, and even more baked in bloat that I need to spend my own time to manually remove. And there just won't ever be a reason to use it over 10, because 10 will become unusable at the same time 11 will
>>108466853What didn't work on Linux for you? I went back to Windows because I use nvidia and it just doesn't work well on linux. But you have an AMD GPU.
Let's vibe code 4chan OS, with our own core, no linuxes or windowses.
it's shittranslating dx12 calls into vulkan calls has as much overhead as the entirety of windows bloatit just deserves to fucking die at this point
>>108467853NTA but the biggest problem with linux is the death by a thousand cuts. Everything is just a little less polished, requires falling back to windows emulators, and eventually you get tired of making justifications for wasting your time. If I'm going to tinker, I'll use FreeBSD.
>>108467981adding to this, you might think that's they're within margin of errors in this fps comparison screenshot, but the input latency is fucking horrible and you'll just know or feel it after a while when gayming on W11, it's the first thing most people nootice when they switched.
>>108468014Tranny can't read his own chart>>108467981Give it up, no one is switching, at least not permanently.
>>108468107>no one in my chinese commieblock is switchingok.
>>108468125Probably jeets, Chinese are too smart, so they just pirate Windows.
>>108466853all of your problems stem from using ltsc and/or mas
>>108456770>Runs like shit>Every update breaks something>Telemetry out the ass>Shit forcefully thrown in your face (ads / AI slop)Your right, your anime loli totally convinced me there's nothing wrong with microslop's flagship product.>>10845683511 is 100% a massive drop, but you're right that it's been a downward spiral for a while.
>>108468153wrongukraine amounts to double the traffic of india
>>108456924Linux breaks less often for me than that pile of shit lol.
>>108468179Ukraine pirating windows is due to lack of funds during wartime. They got megajewed by Epstein.
>>108468290no, this is the steam traffic mapjeets don't use linux because they don't have computers to use it onthis schizo narrative that jeets are somehow overrepresented in linux is completely retarded and unfounded in reality
>>108468317>this schizo narrativeWhen you look at statcouter, you'll see linux in India is about 2% higher than the world average. The future of linux is India, just look at Debian.
>>108468523statcounter? you mean the site that had jeet linux usage go from 5% to 18% to 5% within three years?the site that has unknown as the most used jeet os so it can't even do its fucking job?that statcounter?and you trust it?
>>108468562umm like really? Are you just going to post like that?Seriously? Can you not?
>>108468646you deserve being condescended to for taking statcounter seriously
>>108468712>Real desktop statistics have never been tried. Go back to ricing and hoping.
>>108468756>they're real because i really want to push a narrative
>>108456770It made weaker PCs and laptops less viable for no good reason, just bloat... thank God for Linux.
>>108457909>buy better PCIt is a company PC. I don't decide the OS and I don't decide the HW. It was upgraded from 10 to 11. 11 feels just slow.
>>108456770It's complete garbage. There are so many things wrong with it I don't even keep track. Just today I found out about a feature I wasn't aware of when the start-up menu all of a sudden no longer allowed me to look at all programs even though I hadn't made any changes. It just showed some recent files instead. I then accidentally clicked a toggle as I was looking through options and without confirmation all my jump lists were gone. Generally I navigate through my jump lists so it's pretty annoying. It turns out:>Turning off and then back on the "Show recently opened items in Start, Jump Lists and File Explorer" setting (found in Settings > Personalization > Start) resets the lists to empty.So turning it on and off clears everything with nothing suggesting it's going to happen nor confirmation asked if I really want to clear all my jump lists. But that's just another garbage feature in a sea of garbage features so it's not even surprising. In saying garbage features I'm not even including weird default settings, the time you need to spend to go through all the settings to get rid of omnivorous privacy rape, or the sudden unexpected changes in the system after minor updates. Btw, my condolences to those who've lost a ton of personal files because they didn't realize their shit was sent to Onedrive by default when they assumed the files were on their computer. There are so many weird defaults on the system. Like deleting files from the Downloads folder after a certain time. Why would automatic deletion of anything but temp files be the out of the box setting? Also funny how some basic software like LibreOffice lags on Windows 11 but on a low-end 2009 laptop with Windows 7 there is no lag. Anyway, I'm buying a new desktop next week and it will be without Microslop. I never liked Windows anyway back when it became the standard, but it's unbelievable how bad it has become release by release after Windows 7.
i use windows because i'm a patriot.90% of (home) linux users outside of the USSR are mentally ill and wish they were the true linuxGOD elite, but they're LARPing
>>108456770Please look into recall
When I blocked one service off internet on iot ltsc 24h2, my firewall's log stated that it tried to access internet 4000 times during a 24 hour period.Functionally iot ltsc is fine but most people don't even bother to check what really goes on behind.When I'm on linux the system sits there waiting for MY input. Windows does stuff all the time behind your back. You are not the sole operator of that OPERATING SYSTEM.
I remember when I bought a Windows laptop last year and shut down for the first time and then put the laptop back in the cardboard box. About two weeks later when I got it out I realized shutting down didn't mean shutting down but hibernate. Anyway, the computer was basically on for two weeks in its box. Who ships a shutdown default as hib? And I mean shut down from the start menu. I think the funniest feature has to be ruining Notepad with AI slop. Nothing can really top that, absolute peak clown world shit. Never ever before had Notepad messed up a text file for me. AI slop nu-Notepad managed to do it. Lulz.
>>108463337How/why are you using 25H2 on LTSC?
>>108456770Why switch over from the older and more stable system to the jeet vibe coded new one before you have to?I might do it later this year once extended support for 10 ends.
>>108456770It is the same people who trashed on Windows 10 during Windows 7 era.Eventually they're all going to shut the fuck up and move to Windows 11's final release, and next they will be trashing Windows 12, then repeat the cycle as usual.
>>108472237You get 10 years of quality and security updates with LTSC
>>108456770A lot of people run Windows on potatoes. 11 is having a Vista moment performance wise. I run it on a 14900K with 64GB 6600mhz and PCIe 5.0 drive. Even on that, performance at times rivals Windows XP on a PATA drive.People wanting to go on Linux is great. Please do it. Bazzite, Ubuntu, Mint, whatever autistic ass distro you want. Go to it because Microsoft hates it and it’s changing their tune from the Agenic OS bullshit to “oh yeah we should think about the customer.” I have shit to do day in and day out, so people going to Linux is awesome since I’ll be staying Windows.
>>108456835We used to make fun of Windows because of questionable decisions and just general flakiness. 11 is straight-up slop. At least 11-tan is sexo.
THE LOLI IS GOING TO BE PUNISHEDWE PLAPPED THE SHIT OUT OF HER SO SHE IS CRYING NOW AND BEGGING FOR FORGIVENESSSHE WILL STRIP DOWN HER BIG ASS USELESS WEBVIEW APPSYOU WILL BE ABLE TO DRAG AND JERK HER TASKBAR THE WAY YOU WANTALL AI SHIT WILL CUM OUT OF HER AND NOT PUSHED DEEP HARD ANYMORE
>>10847523425H2 is a enablement package for 24H2. They're functionally the same except 25H2 has longer support.
>>108456770>haha look it's almoast as good as the thing you already bought! why are you so mad
i did for she. no picture today, sadly.
>>108463956and millions thirdies and neet get mad seeing blackheart
>>108475267Again, I know that, but LTSC didn't get 25H2. I'm using it right now and I'm still on 24H2.
>>108476029Before updating to Windows 11, version 25H2 using an enablement package, you must be running Windows 11, version 24H2. You must have the following prerequisite installed before applying this update:August 29, 2025—KB5064081 (OS Builds 26100.5074) Preview or a later cumulative updateif its not offered through windows update then you have to get it manually from microsofts catalog
>>108456770cute maskot
>>108463956
>>108476216>Version 25H2 using an enablement package, you must be running Windows 11, version 24H2LTSC or not, giga retard.if its not offered through windows update then you have to get it manually from microsofts catalog
>>108476216Stupid ESL.
>>108476216You don't comprehend A/B Windows Updates?
>>108476216HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHA idiot faggot
