>Main coder/debugger for Fortnite fired>Not only that, he was working while being sick with pneumoniaHow the FUCK are you supposed to be good enough for coding jobs these days? What kind of a superhuman do you have to be to pass the test?
>I'm sorry but your skin is white and you have a penis, we're going to have to let you go
>>108456849Based.
Good. Fortnite fucking sucks. Should've made a better game retard
>>108456842Good. Now he's free to work on something that isn't retarded.
>>108456915If he could do that he wouldn't have done Fortnite.
>>108456849It's literally this. All AAA is almost solid woke roasties now.
>>108456849>I'm sorry but you're obese and you smell like dried shit, we're going to have to let you go.
>>108456842He probably refused to use AI.
>>108456960Yup, just checked his tweet history and he's a typical libtard luddite.
>>108456842You have to be a foreign national that works for 10% of the pay in return for a green card.Quality? who cares about that.
I'm guessing Tim Sweeney tried to hit on him and got rejected because he was so autistic that Evan didn't even register it as flirting. The directors were just trying to prime him to be more receptive to Tim.
>>108456842your president could fix this but he wont
>>108456849he's a dumb gay tyrannosaursome kind of mental problems theremaybe tim didn't want him shooting up the office
>>108456842>Main coder/debugger for Fortnite firedmeans jack shit
>>108457059That he/him should tell you everything you need to know about this dude.
>>108456842>directors tell me how they appreciate the work I doKEK that must be a meme. Is there ANYONE that believes a single word from higher-ups?
>>108456997based office politics expert
>>108456842just don't get sickofc sick employees are less efficient than non-sick employees
He's a moron by thinking hard work and accomplishments mean anything nowadays. None of it will save you from getting cut. Only office politics and costs matter. People who make decisions who to let go oftentimes never interacted with people they fire, nor do they care either. His name could have been flashing red in some spreadsheet with tiny note stating "earns too much above average, recomendation: termination of contract at earliest convenience". Thinking that management cares about you just because they said you are doing great is pretty stupid as well. Nobody ever tells you that they're going to fire you, it doesn't happen that way. There aren't any arguments or curses like in the movies. The people that will fire you come with smiles, they come as your friends, the people who've cared for you all of your career. And they always seem to come at a time that you're at your weakest and most in need of their help.
>>108457059idk who this guy is but lol at whoever hacked his account
>>108457391And that's why whites are being replaced, and I love to see it.>t. white
>>108457221Seriously. The most praise you get out of a boss is casual indifference. If they EVER say "we really appreciate what you bring to the table" you're about to be told some very bad news.
>>108457391>None of it will save you from getting cut.Nope, *but* if you are actually genuinely as useful as you think you are, you might get rehired. Often these firings are decided way up the food chain, completely divorced from the line managers that know who does what. Once your direct reports find out who's gone, they'll go to their boss and say "wtf are you smoking up there? Get Jim, Bob and Billy back in here pronto or April's season pass ain't fucking happening." The other 50 people that are sacked don't get a look in because nobody cares if they are gone.
Why do major development companies keep laying off the specific individuals who make their games possible while indie games continue to eat their lunch and a dozen new studios of all ex-AAA devs pop up every week?Do they not see that they're directly creating their own competition?
>>108457470No one cares about anything anymore. That's why the only thing you should care about is how big the bang is going to be when it all finally collapses.
>>108457059>displays pronounsand nothing of value was lost
>>108456842>too retarded to realize he simply got replaced by claudeno amount of "good work" will make it, you can't defeat a LLM that can sput thousands of line of code in less than 5 minutes and costs 30 dollars a month
>>108457702>thousands of lines of questionable code no one can even bother to read>for an unsustainable priceI see it as an investment in the future. They'd have to literally beg me on their knees for me to come back, and even then I'm on the fence.
>>108456842>Fortnite serves him right
>>108456960my bet is on this. AI yesmen will inherit the earth.
>>108457862>If you are genuinely competent, start your own fucking business.you can be really skilled but if you have no company experience, no one is gonna trust on your self-employed expertise>>108457869no you can't, Claude is good enough for easily 90% of devs tasks, that's what you people don't understand, LLMs don't have to reach "AGI" to replace people, they just need to be "good enough", and at this time Claude is better, cheaper and faster than 90% of devs
>>108457874Is that before or after their price hikes?
>>108457883>LLMs are never going to replace peoplethey will, they'll replace a team of 20 devs by one dev that'll just verify if Claude is not outputting bullshit, there you go you just removed 19 devs in the process
>>108457891>if Claude is not outputting bullshitWhich it always has whenever I used it. Guess that makes me part of the 10%.
>>108457903>Yeah, not happening.it's already happening, you just don't know it
>>108456842He probably got fired for poor performance. If he's too lazy to use proper grammar and punctuation, I doubt he could write good code.
>>108457059Based. Get the fucking ticking time bombs out. No fags/trannies/furries.
>>108457883They will and are. And some companies will totally sink from this... and some won't. Then you'll be more fucked than you can possibly imagine. And I'll laugh because it's not my problem: I know how to use AI AND I know how to code AND I know how to manage companies and employees, and I have no time for dead weight whiners.
>>108456842burgers have no rights
>>108458143You forgot to mention>and all of this from my mom's basement
>>108458161It's beyond pathetic and sad that your life is such a failure you can't fathom that other peoples' live are not.
>>108458135bring back discrimination hiring, I shouldn't be forced to hire a jeet or a troon because I know they're a huge liability to my company, that'll force them to stop acting like faggots and have a better public image, then they'll be hired of people stop seeing them acting like mentally ill people on the internet
>>108458171Other people? Sure.Other people on /g/? Yeah, no.
>>108456926>>108456915>>108456892Programmers don't in any way have influence on game design, lore or whatever else content wise.
>>108458181How so? You clearly don't run any businesses. Is this your cope?>>108458192Well guess what, I must be the only person on /g/ who can hire and fire disposable people like you.
>>108458204Which is why Chrono Trigger is such nonsensical garbage.
>>108458206No. No, you can't.
>it's not happeningkek, not readyhttps://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1py8ruu/got_fired_today_because_of_ai_its_coming_whether/
>>108457466>>108457862Imo, it's ok if it's like "oh you want me back, alright, with 25% salary increase".If you're really in this position that they can't do without you, you should really leverage it and take as much as you can.
>>10845789410% of retarded people who can't prompt well or reprompt to get it right.
>>108458262>LLM won't replace people!>Ok it replaces people but it's people I don't like so it's fine <- you are here>OMG I GOT FIRED, MY LIFE IS OVERkek
>>108458256It really makes a difference. The more specs and invariants you provide, the better result you will have. You can even go as micromanagement as you want and say that there have to be functions with following singatures that will be reused later for other things. You can ask to name variables in certain way, etc. Prompting carelessly, it will be shit.
>>108458281>people I don't like aren't peopleI don't like you
engineers in the past: distinguished men who build bridges, resected by everyoneengineers now: fat guys in sweaty my little pony t-shirts who get discarded like trash when some investor farts
>>108458283AVX hex dumper. Now.
>>108456842>Fortnite?The game is designed for target audienceclinically retarded 15-19 kids.Studio never even bothered finish graphic in this constantly unfinished game.Well you do not need much for someone who is mentally ill enough to be fun boy for this crap.
>>108458300Idk what that is and what you mean by that. You want to me to vibecode that for you? Nah, I've got my own projects to do. If you can explain some limited scope problem that you think is fundamentally problematic with AI, I can try to look at that and share results.>>108458303I'm prompting in little steps and review everything. It still saves a lot of time, especially on refactorings and on dealing with libraries. You very often know everything you want to do, but have to deal with different libraries you didn't use yet, AI is helpful even at not going through their API yourself. It can sometimes do something very complex brilliantly and then do some shitty decision on simple stuff. It's very fast to fix and you have so much energy left to correct/fix stuff and proceed, because you get all of this done in minutes. I consider it's best to do stuff like competitive programming, data structures and algorithms inmplementations fully yourself to keep you sharp and refresh important things in your memory.
>>108458357>NahI accept your concession.
>>108458368At least explain what that thing is and maybe someone gets interested in topic.
>>108458373What's there not to understand? A hex dumper - printing out data like in picrel - using AVX.If you don't understand that, then you have no chance of ever replacing actual programmers.
>>108457862When they come crawling back to you it's you that has all the leverage. They let you go and realized they can't function without you? You can ask basically anything you want and they'll give it to you. I'd come back for a 25 - 50% raise with 4 day work week and a contract that says 100% remote and knowing that they know they need you. That's job security.
>>108458357do not respond to the dumper schizo
>>108458376If there's something that it repeatedly fails at more than few times, than just stop prompting and do it yourself. Then you can continue. If you break down everything into steps, it's very easy. Don't you find it maximalistic to stumble upon a single thing it struggles with and then say it just doesn't work while significant part of almost every project is fairly generic stuff. I used it to not deal with eframe/egui API myself for example. The data it was trained on had some knowledge of old API of this library so it had few issues, which were resolved by getting it to read error messages and at some point copypasting link to Rust crate docs for the latest version.
>>108456842user generated content and UEFN creators are roughly paid ~40% of Fortnite's global revenue. That's genuinely the reason behind this and them needing 'help to pay the bills' by increasing currency pricesEpic are fucking retarded
>>108458143hopefully you will be gifted cancer by karma for being fucking subhuman cunt
>>108458518It's overpowered even just to scaffold API calls and do refactorings using a single example provided by yourself.But it sure can sometimes succeed even on way more complex things, but that's more of a gamble.
Whether or not you get laid off has nothing to do with your personal job performance. It's completely random and can come for you at any time. It's best to work for smaller companies where you can be more acutely aware of the financial situation of your company, the importance of your team, and your relative contribution to that team. Working for big corpos like Facebook or Epic or Microslop just makes you a cog
>>108458143>I-it won't happen to me I swear!!not ready kek
>>108457391This is true, I was working in aerospace before pulling 12 hour days 5 days a week and constantly pushing to have my area run like a machine, got to the point where export didn’t have dozens of jobs sitting around. They laid me off and told me there wasn’t enough work but they kept the guy who only came in twice a week and called out sick the rest of the time. I asked my boss what the fuck was going on and he basically told me he didn’t want to bat for me because he “didn’t know me that well”. Never put effort into your job, be as marginal as possible. I stopped giving a shit at my current job, I never work overtime and I never volunteer for extra work. I’ve been promoted twice and they just gave me my own office at the clinic I work at.
>>108456842Not my problem. Find a real job.
>>108458650I remember how I told AI-enthusiastic anons on programming imageboards 10-15 years ago that I don't believe in AI. They were saying it one day will be so good it will replace programmers. In the end, they were probably right. It's quite funny that on anonymous imageboards it was foreshadowed like a decade before transformers/LLMs became a thing.
>>108458927I didn't waste my time and energy to get a master degree just to end up working in a fucking factory, FUCK THAT SHIT
>>108458942>wasted years of his life and a ton of money to party around to get a master's degree>isn't actually master of anything>could spend those 5-6 years to get a REAL job and experience, attain wealth, build or buy a house>blames everyone but himself for his poor life decisions
>company in the growth/building phase>decision makers and higher ups tend to be former engineers and sympathetic to engineering>engineers are highly important as the actual builders of this new developing thing>good engineer to manager/business ratio...>company in the peaking/rotting/about to decline phase>admins and managers continue to slowly but surely stuff the ranks>tend to be pure business and not former engineers, no understanding or sympathy at all>they need to make their numbers look better even while hiring more of themselves>time to start cutting engineersIt's a guarantee. Admin bloat is the endgame of any organization ever, business or government.
>>108456842Claude doesn't get pneumonia, nor even needs to sleep. It's over
>>108459074>You should have guessed 10 years ago that AI was coming and would replace all office jobs!Oh yeah... right!
>>108458464Jealous of the attention?
>>108458228>webdevStopped reading. Lol, lmao even.
>>108457391its all pretend game along with normie psychopaths, the only honest work should be for your own or family company
>>108458228based backend chad, bet he fucks her too
>>108458376What the fuck interface is this? Are you trying to use claude through the web portal?
>>108456849go back to /pol/
>>108458204I never said he did. Learn to read, dipshit.
>>108458228>boutique e-commerce>ceo>shethis company's existence actively makes the world worse
do not make a big deal that you are sick at work or outside of workthis is the #1 way for companies and people to ghost youeven in ye old times healthy people want nothing to do with sick people they become hobos
>>108456849>>108456969I checked it out. The guy doesn't have a penis. His a libtard seething about trump and musk and all other things libtards seethe about
>>108458228Lel that thread is funny. A cookie cutter storefront is the first on the chopping block LMAO.
>>108456842>>108456849>>108457059what is going on with white people? this is really disturbing behavior.
>>108461714Autist, or just stick-in-the-mud?
>>108457059>pronouns>flags>seething about musk and trump 24/7
>>108461736t. he/him dumb gay tyrannosaur who (used to) make video games for a living. former programmer at @epicgames on @fortnite + other things...
>>108461767Autist then.
>>108459098>muh aikys
>>108456842>what the hecking heck! I got the boot even after my bosses told me I was being a really good boy! This is going to be all of you employedcels in the coming months by the way.
>>108456842>i've had multiple directors tell me how much they appreciate everything i doshould've raised several alarms
>>108458283>It really makes a difference. The more specs and invariants you provide, the better result you will have.Lol. Only if the stuff you have to interface is written semantically. If you, for example, have a function called "write" that actually reads something (not made up, spent a day untangling that mess this week) you can give claude/codex all the docs you want and it will still put memory corruption bugs in your code.
>>108457391True, I worked for a shitty company that gaslighted everyone into doing unpaid overtime every week, sometimes I would work till midnight multiple days a week, at times in the weekends too, and I had no medical benefits either, or any benefits in any way.I never complained and did the slave work, until one day I had a medical emergency and had to take a few hours off to go to the doctor, after I told that to the cucked CEO cause he liked everyone to answer to him, he didn't want managers, immediately he deleted all my company accounts and sent me an email that my contract is terminated alongside an NDA for my work...In january I learned that the entire team except for the manager got fired and replaced with indians.Been jobless since and my savings won't last much longer, but I'm done with this bullshit of working for a retard that does nothing and takes all the money while acting like a king overseeing peasants.
>>108462647To clarify, there were some managers who organized daily work, but any kind of personal requests had to go directly to the CEO, he would also show up in meetings consistently and talk shit about how people aren't working hard enough and that sometimes it's better to replace old employees who got comfortable with newer ones that "care about the company and the product".He was a nepobaby with no actual skills, but who got to the top through connections, and you will see this is a pattern for every company.
>>108459218to be fair we did know a decade ago yet nobody believed until it was pretty much functional for enterprise
>>108462052that's not the own you think it isnormgroids are being let go for a reason
>>108462963So?
>>108456842sorry but indians just do it cheaper and now you can hire an indian to run 100 openclaw agents
>>108456842>eliminate programmers>only pajeets, women, and AI are left>optimization go down hill fast>current gen hardware can't keep up>only viable ,,option'' left is to subscribe to rent a license to stream from Nvidia's servers
>>108460104>*spends 15 years shoving dei down the industry's throat*>*gets called out*>DEI DOESN'T EXIST IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORYtake your meds
>>108456842>how could they fire me I'm le important!I remember the first time I was laid off I had coworkers like this. How are you so retarded you think you're more than a number to the upper management? And I fucking hate when my coworkers log on and join meetings when they're sick. If I have so much as a sniffle I shut PC off for the day, nobody is commending you for working while sick
>>108458927no way, fag
>>108461767Is this real?
>>108458228>[deleted]filed under: things that never happened and posted by bots
>>108456842>fires 1000 people to save 500m>openai spends 50m a day just for sora AI
>>108456842coders are losing value by the hour. webshit dev is literally kill. next is mobile, embedded and gamedev. shit is grim
What I don't understand is who the hell needs publishers these days?Whether you're making software or music or anything else, you can self-publish and distribute. Most indie games fail, looking at just the successes is inaccurate sure, but if you sell out it's 100% certain your studio will be gutted and twisted into a monstrosity wearing the skin of the original.Dude should just gather a bunch of like minded people and make their own game independently.
>>108457391Yep which is why when I quit, I just tell them: “I’m out, now, bye!”. They don’t give you a two weeks notice before they fire you, so why should you?
>>108465117>Dude should just gather a bunch of like minded people and make their own game independently.and who is going to pay for food and rent in the years it'll take to make a game, that by your own admission will probably not sell.
>>108465197Nothing ventured nothing gained. If they worked for years as salaried employees and don't have any savings or can't attract investors including on kickstarter etc. then they've done something wrong.
>>108465274kickstarters almost never cover the actual cost of development and are generally a thing to show investors that there's product interest.those investors are no longer interested in videogames because videogames are terrible investments.and let's you and your friends had savings to cover 3 years worth of expenses - would you actually burn those to make a videogame when the likely outcome is that it sells 200 copies?you'd be better off buying openai and anthropic stock at ipo.
>>108457391It's so weird, I see this all the time on here but I have had the exact opposite experience. I work hard and am always rewarded. Maybe you guys just aren't as good as you think?
>>108457197>>108457680>>108461757>focus on pronouns when he proudly states that he is a faggotelection tourists killed this website
>>1084617675000 gallons of water died for this.
>>108456842>>108456849It's not targeted at all, it's literally a lottery. Which, IMO, is much worse than being targeted. If it were targeted then they could at least have the ability to look at critical roles and say "Don't fire this one, he's working on an important part of the project". Lotteries are how all modern layoffs are done and it results in holes in all stages of development that managers think jeets and interns can fill (they can't). They'll go through another round of layoffs soon-ish as this causes development costs to skyrocket.
>>108465381or maybe you're worse than you think and you're the retard who gets promoted
>>108461714Every one of their countries have betrayed them and their world-class economies are failing under bad-faith actors who used to be punished under the law, now run all of their systems of management and governance.
>>108465408pronouns are a much bigger redflag than announcing you're gay
>>108465526spoken like a true brainwashed zoomer
>>108456842Americans never abandoned slave labor.
>>108465529>t. they/them
>>108465381You probably have the brains to not work under a giga-narcissist like little TimmyHis actions during his lawsuits show that he is an autist who thinks of himself as literally the next coming of jesus christ. He's the ten time winner of the internet's "World biggest inferiority complex" award and routinely goes off on employees and customers alike because he is surrounded by yes-men. He's almost invested twice the capital investment into his shitty store that Steam has and still has a fraction of the engagement because he fires anyone who doesn't tell him that his shit is made of gold. Everything wrong with Epic and Fortnite is just "A Timmy problem" and his sloped face tells it all: working for this guy must be hell and he's better off having "Fortnite" on his resume and working someplace better.
>>108465533This, we just legalized itit's your right to work, after all :)
>>108456960>>108457873Am I fucked for life because I refused to buy a 3090 for gooning and stuck with a 3080 and refused to use ChatGPT in school?
>>108465550No, you're probably the only person who is going to have a job by the time all these models become neutered or paywalled and your peers can't rely on asking it any brainrot question.You should learn how to use AI but over-reliance on it has fucked an entire generation of students. You can't ask Grok to do your exams or finish your certification for you.
>>108465537>t. zoomer faggot
>>108465174This is the actual solution, keep a pulse of the company with your ear to the ground. When it looks like they're about to sack you: quit. Don't even be at your desk. Otherwise they put you through the humiliation ritual which gives you less rights than being arrested.
>>108465539Also he sues everyone for anything so the ex-employee better not go make his own startup or he'll go sue him for that too
>>108465558if grok can do your exams and certs for you it can also just do the job you're training foryou lost
>>108462671>He was a nepobaby with no actual skills, but who got to the top through connectionsThey all do, there isn't a super special manager school that everyone gets middle management positions from, they all come from nepobaby factories or know someone.
>>108465584>if grok can do your exams and certs for youGood thing it can't. Did you ask Grok to make a reply for you, as well?
>>108465591of course not. claude wrote it (used my weekly quota on it i'll have you know). grok is retarded.
>>108456842If all of these game devs that keep getting laid off are such amazing wonderful programmers, why don't they start their own medium sized studios instead of joining the big gay ones that keep fucking them over?
>>108465558>a job by the time all these models become neutered or paywalledIf I bought a 24GB GPU instead of a 12GB GPU, I might have been actually able to experiment with local models and LLMs, train them, and keep up with the bleeding edge though. I was an early adopter for stuff like AI upscaling, img2img and whatnot and thought it was a novel tool in the right circumstances much like denoisers.
>>108458185>bring back discrimination hiring>I shouldn't be forced to hire a jeet or a troon because I know they're a huge liability to my companyYou have no idea what you are wishing for. The discrimination is very real and is happening right now, it's used to fire all white programmers and replace them in jeets you dumb mutt.
>>108456842It's not about you as an individual generally. Its about entire divisions getting treated as points on a chart. Sure they use layoffs as a low friction way to get rid of underperformers too, but the majority are just guilty of being on the wrong team under the wrong manager.>>108457466Not on a giant corpo lmao. Multinationals have waaaay too many layers, you have to be pretty high up the food chain for you to be vital to the daily operation.>>108457470Competition is for small fry. Once you're big enough as a corpo, your "customer" is sweet, sweet investor cash. Consumers are just the means to get to that investor cash. Epic Games doesn't give a shit about indie games being better when all the 12 year olds tune back in when the Sabrina Carpenter skin comes out. Then they go back to the investors and say "look, the Sabrina Carpenter skin brought us this many players, gib moar cash pls"
>>108458228Yes, ai will replace jobs in the short term. Then the problems will start cropping up. Some corpos will realize just in time, pull the plug and rehire devs to clean up the mess. Other corpos will double down and go under the weight of their retarded decisions.
>>108465633You can still run some pretty fair models with 12 GB. I have a spare box with an 8 GB that runs local models.
>>108456871>>108456849>>108456842I thought I read somewhere that it has nothing to do with being a libtard. Apparantley the firings were almost random and done by HR (maybe by using AI) and supposedly they fired the people that were making the most money. Tim Epic said it had nothing to do with the AI bubble, but looking back Disney dropped 2 billion (?) on OpenAI just a few months ago in December and looking at other stuff Disney also dropped billions along with Lego Investments for some kind of Fortnite or Unreal Engine crap not too long ago. I just find it suspicious that Sora gets shut down and then Epic does this when most tech companies cull their workers during January.
>>108456842That's how Capitalism works, go be a commie somewhere else
>>108456842>good enoughDoesn't matter. Less employees makes line go up in short term, so shareholders are happy. The only way to avoid this cancer is to work for a privately held company that isn't subservient to all that noise (i.e. see valve)
>>108465529>>108465408>cut off your own penis>invent weird new pronouns >want others to be referred with their fetish fanfiction callouts>call others brainwashed for not being part of the child grooming and castration ideology
>>108466279>shamed and beaten to death for entire human history>survive only through pedophilia>a jew makes up the word and meaning of homosexuality in the early 1900s>send death threats to scientists for the entire post WW2 era until they remove you from the mental illness manual>still shamed until women get the right to vote with their feelings to push pro-gay propaganda to weaken men>want others to pretend putting your dick where shit comes out and finding your own sex attractive is not a mental illness>call others trannies, who are nothing but gays who go one simple step further by cutting their dicks on top of behaving like women like gays already are for not being part of THEIR special child grooming ideology
>>108465633I have a 24 gb gpu and they suck
>>108465539His facial features look like they're imploding. Implosionface.
