>hey wanna hear the most annoying sound in the world?>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE brbrbrb bprp IIIIIIII BZZZBZBZT EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>108458632I picked up a couple of x300 before prices went nuts are they really that bad?
>>108458632We were supposed to have mass market 8-14TB SSD's available at a similar cost per terabyte to hard drives by now. The high-pitch whining and buzzing can only be mitigated by be quiet! cases so much. >>108458655No, but a be quiet! case is an absolute necessity in my opinion if you get annoyed by HDD vibration buzzing easily, 10 KHz whine may vary depending on your tolerance. These drives are beasts and will serve well but they are not designed with quiet in mind, they are much like old school hard drives.
>>108458632hey grandpa here in the future we use NVME drives. take your 1970s tech and shove it up your ass
>>108458673here in the present we cant afford either
>>108458632The sound is how you know it's working
>>108458673>needs a full NVMe array to match the capacity of a single HDDYeah sure thing kiddo. Go back to sleep.
>>108458632Oh yeah I have one and it's pretty loud. I'd still rather have this than the infamous 3TB barracuda it replaced after it died.
>>108458673Can your NVME drives support the 2.5" form factor?>>108458691>hehe it's thinking
>>108458667be quiet case often utilize thick insulation foam and restricted panels that can lead to higher internal temperatures compared to mesh-fronted "high-airflow" cases.
>>108458698>Can your NVME drives support the 2.5" form factor?yes its known as the 2.5" U.2 form factor. when was your last computer lesson, 1983?
>hard drivesUncs really do be still using primitive tech
kek i have two 16tb toshibas in my NAS and it sounds like a MG nest when its being written to, good times.
>>108458701The Dark Base 900 I have has excellent thermals with an extra front fan, one bottom intake, and one top intake and exhaust comparable to my HAF 932. But it is a leakier design than the Pure Base 600. Still tolerable on my desk.
>>108458632If you can't put your NAS/Server in another room, you have more pressing matters to attend to.
>>108458918I enjoy the white noise
Prices went nuts for HDD's.In may 2025, i paid like 360 Euros for aToshiba MG10 20TBOn 22nd december 2025 a 20TB MG10 would have cost me 491 Euros ...
>>108458795A you rich or something? buy me some ssd pls
>>108458968And this is the same HDD model and capacity in march 25th this year costing 743 EurosThis is nuts
>>108458968>skärmavbild>pic text in germani am confused sven steinersson
>>108458673Good luck affording 100tb on NVMEs.motherboards barely even have as much as 3 NVME slots, while I can connect 10x or more SATA devices.
>>108458918I have a case which can house 9 hard drives, I think I will use the feature I paid for.
>>108458992its fuckin insane, i paid £439 for two 14tb versions last year, they are now £380 each
>>108458632I just bought one for full system backups and the sound caught me off guard lmao. My case has enough dampening material not to hear it spinning but the seek sounds are so loud and deep compared to my old seagate. I only spin it up once a week so it's no big deal.
>>108458992Got 12 disks a few years ago, thinking I'll buy one or two backup disks in case my pool freaks out. Guess I'll live dangerously for a while, no way I'm paying these prices for HDDs.
>>108459076You can use an m.2 to pcie adapter, I think you need ~4 pcie (4.0 at least) lanes to match the theoretical max speed of most drives, if ur board supports bifurcation you can use a full x16 for 4 m.2s
>>108458795>>108458673>t. the people always crying about games being over 10GB in size
I've got an X300 and an MG20 and they're fine.
>>108458632It seems to vary per-drive somehow. I bought two to put in RAID1 in my desktop. Set up the first one, whisper quiet. Set up the second one and mirrored the data, WHRRRR BT BT BT TKTKTKTKTK RBRRRRRR every time I open a folder on them
>>108460500The high pitch idle noise from OP is more annoying IMO
>>108459045>i am confused sven steinerssonHere it weil get even more confusing:My real name is actually Sven, i'm german, live in Germany and i'm not a swede but i speak Swedish.That's why my computer's OS is in swedish. Hence the filename>>108459300>its fuckin insane, i paid £439 for two 14tb versions last year, they are now £380 eachYes, it's actually insane. I have put any plans on purchasing HDD's on a total halt.>>108459358>Got 12 disks a few years ago, thinking I'll buy one or two backup disks in case my pool freaks out. Guess I'll live dangerously for a while, no way I'm paying these prices for HDDs.Ecactly my reasoning also.Except i'm going for a non-RAID solution with my DAS 10-Bay HDD towers (pic related)
>>108458632I don't care about the noise as long as it keeps my data safe for decades.
>>108458632My 300 got more quiet over time. Or maybe I got used to it.
>>108458632Are there any high capacity drives that are quiet, specifically at idle? The WD ones thump hard every 5 seconds for their PWL "feature". I've ordered two Seagates in my life and they both arrived DOA. Thinking of trying Toshiba, their N300 and X300 (and their pro variants) are all listed as 20 Db, so that seems quiet.
>>108458632Which model do you have? The Helium filled ones are all 20 dB, whereas air goes up to 34 dB. The ones <= 10 TB are air. https://storage.toshiba.com/docs/enterprise-hdd-documents/HDD-MGEND.pdf
>>108458795Ok Spacelet. >>108459358The prices are never coming down.
>>108458701Airflow vs dampening only matters for high performance systems like gaming and rendering boxes. For something like a fileserver the better noise dampening is going to be much better for noise than more airflow. Buy a Fractal D7.
>>108460729>10 bay usb 3.0 enclosureSaar.... Please do not redeem.
>>108461682I've got a 2-bay and i thought that was not ideal.With 4+ bays i'd want thunderbolt and or USB4.
>>108461682>>108461711I'm totally fine with the speed it gives me.I like having only those disks running that i need to access.>With 4+ bays i'd want thunderbolt and or USB4.Good luck finding a 10-Bay HDD tower with USB4 or Thunderbolt that gives you the function of turning on or off each HDD individually. No such thing on the market.
>>108461770not so much about speed but rather how shoddy the average usb sata controller is
>>108461780>not so much about speed but rather how shoddy the average usb sata controller isI never had any issues with data loss or corruption or something. But i know there were older SATA to USB controllers that had issues with partitions with more than 4TB or that could not resolve certain letters in a filename.I have everything from 8TB to 32TB HDD's in these towers and never had any issues. Yet so far, every HDD i put in them work perfectly fine.
>>108458673>1970s techPeople still use it for storage you fucking retard, go kys.
>>108458632You would think Japanese products would be quiet since they live in small spaces with paper-thin walls.
>>10846141714TB MG07
>>108458795I got 6tb for $60, how much would that cost if I went with NVME?
>>108463797they dont actually have the space for a desktop
>>108458673>>108458795You zoomies stupid or something?I'm not made out of money, I can put 3x16TB HDDs in my home server, but going solid state would cost a fortune and the performance benefits would be irrelevant for media streaming and backups.
>>108458632are seagate and WD drives like this too?
>>108466943Yes hard drives spin, that's what they do.
>>1084672422.5" HDDs are silent, though.
hdd prices have gone completely retarded considering it's obsolete antique techi'm supposed to pay £280 for an 8TB HDD when a 4TB ssd is £350? what?fucking dead technology and i'm pissed off because i bought a 2 bay NAS for my media server and now i might as well throw it away
>>108458632I have a couple of 22TB MG10s in my NAS and they're great. Not too loud either, but you're a fucking retard anyway if you're buying enterprise hard drives and expecting silence.
You shouldn't have your server where you can hear it anyways faggot
>>108469022Well it’s obsolete for small drives, but cutting edge for massive capacity. It’s hard to find a good SSD more than 4 TB.
>explicitly orders enterprise hdd instead of consumer grade, made for people EXACTLY like him>surprised it is noisyWhy is OP always so fucking retarded
>>108469286the average user is dumb as rocks. they don't know what those words mean.
>>108469104SSDs actually have better density but you have to get those enterprise ones, they're like 70TB+ now
>>108470184With current prices on SSD's and HDD's, you're cheaper off buying a fully equipped aircraft carrier.Especially when we talk 70TB+
The best computer modification I ever did was to relocate everything to a closet in the middle of the house and only extend I/O to the rooms to access it. I don't think about noise or heat or how it looks at all. USB and HDMI are good for about 25' without repeaters.
>>108458632Sounds like a you problem, idiot.
>>108469000The one screeching in my PS4 would beg to differ
>>108458632Had 2x 8TBToshibaN300 fail within 2 years. Same issue, increasing number of bad sectors for no apparent reason.WDs and Seagates have been fine.Fuck Toshiba.
>using hdds outside of nas
I have a bunch of external Toshibers. Never had problem with them. WD? Seagate? Yeah I've had problems with those.
>>108458673>1970s techThen show me an NVME that can beat a SATA HDD.
>>108473523How fast did you receive the new ones after the RMA?
>>108459446>if ur board supports bifurcation you can use a full x16 for 4 m.2sOkay, and then I put a videocard where?
>>108465322>>108458795>that 23 year old unc who doesn't use 20Tb SSDsngmi
>>108458795I have important data, you can easily recover stuff from HDDs
>>108458795I have a 2tb HDD for file storage but yeah they're slow as fuck. m.2 ssds are far better.
>>108458632I have had several people tell me "they aren't that loud" Those people, they were all lying it turns out. Or deaf. Or simply did not care. >>108458655It's not just the loudness it's the sound in particular just awful.
>>108475579The idle noise or the write/seek? Sound sensitivity is very difficult to compare, lots of different factors and it even comes down the ways our brains work. A lot of blacks for instance actually cannot hear the smoke alarm chirp, whereas it'd drive a lot of autistic insane. I'm much better at dealing with a constant white-noise from a fan than a periodic sound. Anyways, we can compare relatively. 7200 is usually a lot louder than 5400. I have two old 5400s in my tower and I barely notice them, it's time to upgrade them soon, hopefully SSD will increase in size and drop in price.
>>108469022>4TB ssd is £350that's meant to be around £200 everything is fucked I paid £70 for this shit look at it now
>>108475628Yeah its fucked. i feel bad for anyone making a pc now
>>108469286WD Gold and Ultrastars don't sound anywhere near as horrible Toshiba used to have lower prices at least but now it's not even worth it
>>108475579>I have had several people tell me "they aren't that loud" Those people, they were all lying it turns out. Or deaf. Or simply did not care.Retarded take of yours.If i compare the Toshibas i have and they're ranging from 16 to 28TB from the MG series, they are ALL OF THEM less noisy than their Seagate Exos and Iron Wolf pro counterparts of varying capacities. So what are we actually talking about here?If you weak fucks can't stomach HDD's spinning and accessing YOUR data, then sell your computer and transition into a fucking phone faggot. But for the sake of it, stop posting here.Or shell out the millions you'll need to get a server running with SSD's only. But either way, stop complaining like a homo.Weak fucks like you will never come close a real pussy.
>>108458968same story herebought Toshiba Enterprise Capacity MG10 22TB last september for 360 eur and its 600 now
>>108458632can hear either of my toshiba disc in my Fractal Design define R4
>>108470184Yeah and then you remember that $/€ / TB is a metric more important than density for everyone that isn't a FAGMAN tier cloud provider and then you remember that larger than 4TB SSDs were already orders of magnitude away from being competitive before they hiked prices and delivery times up x20.
>>108470184Yeah and they have what, 128 states per gate? LMAO that shit needs correction like every second.
>>108459358Settled for an 6 * 8 TB raidz2 when I built a new computer last year. Went for discounted Seagate Iron Wolfs because they were too cheap to resist thinking>Seagate might be garbage, but it's cheap garbage so I'll just buy replacements when they kick the bucket.It might not have been the smartest move in hindsight.
>>108478160>Yeah and they have what, 128 states per gate?No, they are still TLC or so. They just have a 3.5" drive chock full of chips, while your m.2 has maybe a single chip.