https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/systemd
>>108459319I forked your mom
>>108459319Peak ironing is banning Pootering & friends from contributing anymore.
>>108459319just use openrc. it works good and even has user services(sosytemd brainrot) nowadays. why tame it when you can put a bullet in the head of the cancerous blob.
>>108459319I literally just swapped from Arch to Void on both my machines and now your laying this on me.Nah I'm kidding Void seems pretty chill after it's all set up.
>>108459319Is funny to see how many are pissing and shitting themselves for what constitutes an age slider just to comply with some dumb ass laws.I doubt they can even prove malice on systemd's part, just a pure and unfettered toddler tantrum
>>108459429the systemd changes do not comply with any of the new laws.
>stop with your toddler tantrums, they're just digging these posts around your house to comply with some dumb ass laws>there's no fence or barbed wire or armed guards to keep you in, you're free to come and go as you wish
>>108459319Bruh for what?a string field in userdb something some distros don't even ship?
>>108459319these forks never last unfortunatelylets just move to openRC instead
>>108459319what the fuck is wrong with you deranged trannies?
>>108459429>Is funny to see how many are pissing and shitting themselves for what constitutes an age slider just to comply with some dumb ass laws.It's funny until they mandate a physical chip like TMP2.0 that mandates age verification at a hardware level.
>>108459590and you won't do shit about it, cuck.you retards are pissing and shitting yourself over nothing. the groundwork for much worse shit has already been laid-out yet for a solid week /g/ has been unusable because of a literal non-issue change in a systemd component.kys.
>>108459569The laws passed by states for age verification at the OS level only ask that website can ask for an age of the user from the OS.For the purpose of this the "age verification" is just a field that can be filled in by a root user/administrator for any user or it can be filled when a user creates an account and they enter their birthday.Systemd is not asking for your fucking ID
>>108459584>Let'sNo. Fuck you. OpenRC doesn't do networking. Init is the least important feature of systemd.
>>108459627>Systemd is not asking for your fucking IDFor now.
>>108459627the changes introduced in systemd do not pass the requirements set forth by any of the laws in any state. have you even read them?>Systemd is not asking for your fucking IDi don't understand why you added this part to your reply.
>forking dogshit
>>108459627It's going to require1.) user creation utilities to have such a field2.) a way to query the data and send it to a website or service3.) eventually something in the kernel for tpmWhen it's all implemented, you'll need 3 forks, regardless of whether or not you use systemd, because developers will be compelled to comply.
>>108459661The California law just requires that user can input their age and there is an OS level api/signal that websites or apps can tap into to determine age.Systemd is doing it's part in adding a DOB field into the userdb.
>>108459364it's beyond me how that fed/spy was allowed to contribute to core utilities at any point. like "hey guys we got this guy who lived all over the place from South America to the US to Europe and works for Microsoft and IBM and we'll let him develop not only the entire init system, but also the sound server and the networking implementation. i'm sure that's going to turn out totally benign." makes you wonder if Linux is a honeypot or otherwise compromised as a whole.
>>108459675>eventually something in the kernel for tpmLiterally not required in the laws passed.
>>108459319Fucking retarded, its a fiield on the user who the fuck cares.
We need to go back to plain text logs. The last line of defense for detecting an attacker's presence on your system should be freely modifiable with a sed command.
>>108459693What's your point?
>>108459693so far
>>108459594>the groundwork for much worse shit has already been laid-outgo on what did you mean by this?
So now it's necessary to observe and control any upstream change to make systemd functional across systems after any new version released? And constantly monitoring any change that could reek palantirium and prepare a new version for Liberated SystemD?
>>108459734No. You are asserting that forever parity is necessary in order to spread FUD. Nothing indicates that such a thing would be necessary. That word means something.
>>108459693lol, lmao even
the single worst thing to have come out of this age verification shitstorm is giving all these attention starved subhumans yet another reason to fork software, change the logo and then act like they created something
>>108459584Yeah and in 6 months, a year, two years from now when all websites, online services, and apps require an OS supplied ID verification token? What then, Rocket Man?
>>108459731passkeysAndroid SafetyNet EFI preboot / Secureboot attestationliterally every smartphone and hardware device having some form of signature-verified drivers and bootloaders.this is a nothing burger, retard.
>>108459319Jeffrey, systemd is so bloated that you won't be able to easily maintain your repo. give up, either embrace the botnet or switch init.
>>108459319systemd doesn't have any age verification, until it actually does this is retarded.
>>108459635systemfaggot sucks because it does more than just init
>>108459319this solves nothing, you still have the centralized trojan horse called systemd
>>108459932You don't have to use anything but the init part of it, systemd is a project that groups many separate software, you don't have to use all of them.
>>108459943I really don't understand schizotrannies (actually LARPers) who stuck on shitpad aka stinkpad with flashed SPI flash chips to remove\disable inTELAVIV Mossad Engine, reflash into coreboot\libreboot\heads fucken x220, but still using systemd\grub distros.TOTAL SHITHEADS
>>108459627>Systemd is not asking for your fucking IDFOR NOW
>>108459380Does openrc have the journaling system systemD has?Like it or not, systemD's whole unified system is nice.>>108459627Why is systemD even asking for it? They aren't the "OS" they are just the bootstrap for the kernel and userland/OS stuff.(Though I guess there IS some userland with the daemons/services)
>>108459693It's cute you think they won't change the laws. Remember the PATRIOT Act? "We totally aren't going to spy on you, pinky promise! (But we will tap your phones without a warrant if your library records say you are reading no-no books, BTW)"
>>108459627there needs to be as many init systems as there are distros, just enshifficate the ecosystem so the jewish overlords dont know what to attack
>>108459319>the purpose of systemd is to do exactly one thing>systemd- - - - - - - - - - - - ->one thingI think that ship sailed a long time ago bud
>>108459991My machine runs just fine without your fed backdoor
>>108459429>its not a big deal just ignore it!>if its not a big deal, why have it at all?Every thread should just open with this pair of statements because of retards like you
>>108459686The change to systemd was not required by law and it does not equal compliance with the new law. Not sure why you keep replying.
>>108460098Not at all what's being said thoSomething has to be there because there are laws and as retarded as they are they do need to be complied with.However what is there is basically nothing and can be ignored, it's a userdb field as far as systemd is concerned, one of many, some of which can contain much more personal data if some desires.People are acting like toddlers over this shit
ah the pedo fork
>>108460150>Something has to be there because there are lawsThere are laws against data collection elsewherealso systemd isn't an "OS"
>>108460167>systemd isn't an "OS"Yes it is.Linux is just it's bootloader.
>>108460167Systemd is part of an OS and it's part in all of this is just a DOB field.Don't want to enter an age? Leave it blank
>>108459627That's how it starts. It's never "Just one thing". "Testing the waters" is the first step in any coups or power grabs in online communities, be it a few edgy jokes, or prodding a mod to take action, or "it's just a number" or "it's just a few letters".If it's not a big deal, then it doesn't need to be part of systemd.
>>108460198Ah yes, the three major OS'swindows, mac, and systemd
>>108459319ChatGPT told me it was already possible to build it without userdb.
>>108460211you forgot Emacs.
>>108460203If not systemd then it'll just be something else unless you think every mainstream distro to just stick it to the man and defy California's laws then something will be implemented Systemd is implementing it in the way that it is because the userdb already has a shitton of info about the user and date of birth is easy to add.
>>108459319That's antisemitic.
>>108459319
>>108459627It is your moral obligation to resist unjust laws Faggot.
>>108459319Forking is important but honestly people should just give other init systems a chance like openrc and runit.
>>108459704There'll be a lot of January 1, 1970 users
>>108459319>https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/systemd/pull/3>remove LLM instructionsDangerously based.
The amount of USAID>it's nothingitt is unreal
>>108459319Why are they not removing the real name and all other fields in userdb, as well? Why birth date specifically?
>>108459319Is updating Linux a bad idea during the Iran war? They tend to do things with software during wartime.
>>108459319>thinking that you can just fork systemd and everything will be okRetard logic. One must destroy SystemD to counter it.
>>108459406enjoy your outdated packages and skeleton crew of package maintainers
>>108460487If you need to be spoonfed so much with your computer just use Bindows faggot.
>>108459686If websites and apps can't tap into that systemd field right now it means it doesn't comply with that law.If existing systems don't provide user interface to input their age, it dpesn't comply with that law.When you are fully ass fucked and websites can pull data from your userdb any moment then yeah you pass!
>>108460586It's unconstitutional, so legally youncan just ignore. What are they gonna do, shoot you?
this is just a political stunt that reminds of sneedacity. it will never receive another patch and be abandoned immediately.
>>108459319crying about open source to begin with. all the fags that didnt like it this is why i kept pointing out its open source.
>chud fork number 31289423hows redot doing?
>>108459319Wow, a fork that will fizzle out by tomorrow. Really thread-worthy.
>>108459319>comitsspiritually indian project
>>108459357I bond burgered your sister
>>108459429bro next is uploading a pic of your government ID just to boot up your raspberry pi
>>108459319>Vulnerabilities?I sleep>Someone trying to remove digital ID? I ban
>>108459932You don't even know how to use init, much less timers, resolved, or networkd. Your opinion is not needed. You don't know how to set up ahavi or unbound, dnsmasq, or anything else.
>>108460477No. SystemD obsoleted everything else and you're just coping about it, actually.
>>108459911>Jeffrey, systemd is so bloated that you won't be able to easily maintain your repo.But Claude will. Unironically.
>>108460094>muh baseless claim
>>108461760>>108460094The funny part about this is that if any of the other systems have an undisclosed NSA backdoor, the plaintext logs can be tampered with, and you'd never even find out that the feds were even exploiting it.
>>108460586>If websites and apps can't tap into that systemd field right now it means it doesn't comply with that law.False. OS's have to be in compliance, which requires multiple interoperating softwares. A single software project being in compliance just implies that said project is fulfilling it's role in the totality of the specification.
>>108459627>Systemd is not asking for your fucking IDGoycattle are so retarded and naive it's unreal. But that's a good thing, keep it that wayYours truly,Jeffrey Epstein
>>108459627Not yet
>>108459686They shouldnt be cooperating
>>108461848You gonna cry about it?
>>108460586>If websites and apps can't tap into that systemd field right now it means it doesn't comply with that law.The web browsers will also need to update.
>>108461852Yeah
>>108461869It can be healthy to cry sometimes, I suppose. I just say fork it. Nothin' to worry about. Cryin' dutt'n solve nuth'n
>>108460531>if you need to get shit done instead of tinkering all day just use Windowsyeah I know
>>108459319$10 this will be dead in a few months just like sneedacity.
>>108461787Cope and seethe fedtrannies, I will not install your tailored access
>>108462168You just won't find the feds in the systemD alternatives. That's the only difference, here. Plain text logs are an inexcusable security flaw.
How the FUCK Is nobody suing the everloving fucking SHIT Out of state governments over this?This is the most blatant, textbook definition breach of the 4th amendment I have ever seen in my fucking life. Judicial Watch, ACLU, fuck it some new citizen's group. This is the easiest legal challenge to proposed laws in US history.
>>108459690>it's beyond me how that fed/spy was allowed to contribute to core utilities at any point.For real.Well, the ancient axiom at least holds true: Evil agents always bring themselves to light when challenged. At the first opportunity to act the stooge, he jumped.At least now we know which contributors are compromised, or at least which ones have zero principles and actively work against the spirit of open source tech, and can cull them with extreme prejudice from future forks and projects.
>>108459406>I literally just swapped from Arch to Void on both my machines and now your laying this on me.Yep. Arch is instantly dead to me. Zero percent chance I ever touch it again after this cuckery.
>>108462221No, because it's illegal to sign up for internet services if you are under 13, and illegal to access certain adult content without being an adult, so this just provides an enforcement mechanism for laws that already exist, for which there is no clear liability for breaking. As it currently stands, if an adult shows a child pornography on a computer, or if a website allows a minor to access it's content, both the parent and the service have plausible deniability in the act of psychological abuse.
>>108462251>No, because it's illegal to sign up for internet services if you are under 13, and illegal to access certain adult content without being an adult,Yes, and?There is a MASSIVE difference between forcing every user to display their PII publically, and requesting they volunteer it.The law is that you show your ID to buy beer. You don't permanently dox yourself on a publicly-accessible API to which the government has unwarranted access.The 4th ammentment exists to protect against EXACTLY. PRECISELY. this kind of law.
>>108462272The api request is the request that you volunteer it. Using a computer is a voluntary act, and you agree to share that PID by attempting to use the service.
>>108462285>Using a computer is a voluntary act,Fucking hell mate, you are an absolute cool-aid drinker.
>>108462290Read a tea leaf
>>108462285>"Leaving your home is a voluntary act.">"Travel is a voluntary act.">"Acquiring food is a voluntary act.">"Not getting vaccinated is a voluntary act.">"Owning property is a voluntary act."Sic semper tyrannus.
How many times do we need to go through this before we realize that it's never an argument or debate, and that the law never mattered to these people? It's california.
>>108462301Funny you say that. You ever been to Virginia? This country is a myth.
>>108462305>and that the law never mattered to these people?The important part is that it is your, my and our duty to MAKE the law matter to them. At a bare minimum, do all that you can to make supporting laws like this political suicide.This is the meaning of civic duty.
>>108462301Tyrannus is God, btw. Not King George. Novus Ordo Seclorum. This country is a myth for stupid people who fall for witchcraft.
>>108462308>Funny you say that. You ever been to Virginia?Is does not equal ought.We strive for the ought in spite of what is.>"Well shit, it's already corrupt, might as well let it get worse!"Is the shittest of all shit ideas and you should be ashamed for espousing it.
>>108462318No you don't, or VA wouldn't be the most corrupt state in the Union while you're powerless to do anything about it because you can't out-lie a demon-possessed democratic populace.
>>108462316>Tyrannus is God, btw. Not King George.Tyrannus is Tarquinius Superbus, actually. The phrase is vaguely attributed to Lucius Junius Brutus.
>>108462328But the freemasons are talking about killing God when they say it.
>>108462323>No you don't,Maybe YOU don't. That's because you are evil.I don't allow evil people like you to speak on my behalf.
>>108462336Who's your local representative? What are you going to do about it? What has that solved? How much of your tax money goes to Israel?
>>108462329>But the freemasons are talking about killing God when they say it.Yeah. They're fools, we already know that.Their foolishness does not diminish the true sentiment.
>>108462344Revolution is the spirit of Satan. There's 3 6 way intersections surrounding the pentagram in DC focused on the Whitehouse and national mall.
>>108462341>Who's your local representative?Someone I've written about this issue.>What are you going to do about it?Engage in advocacy, to start. >What has that solved?Thousands of things. Flock mass surveillance cameras are actively removed from cities and rejected from other cities this very moment, for example. It ended prohibition. Stopped untold numbers of wars. The list goes on.>How much of your tax money goes to Israel?I donate appreciated assets to charity to offset realized gains, and take maximal writeoffs for charitable donations. So, literally zero dollars. Ever. I have made it a high priority in life to do everything I can to avoid taxes legally.
>>108462358The mafia takes over the entire government and taxes alcohol and you call it "ending prohibition."
>>108462375Yeah, yeah, you're a shill. I get it. I, too, would rather prohibition have ended completely, rather than having the ban on ethanol fuel production for farmers stay and allow oil companies to acquire massive monopolies.Taking one step in the right direction is still a good thing, even if you end up getting pulled two steps back. What you do, is you dig your heels in, and you continue to walk against the wind.
>>108462386The government would be willing to kill entire families to implement this. This is crucial to their future strategies. They don't give a fuck. You better be prepared. I am OP, I'm not a shill.
>>108462348>Revolution is the spirit of Satan.To revolt against evil is not the same as revolt against God. That you confuse the two hints at your own spiritual emptiness.
>>108462386You don't understand. Ending prohibition wasn't step in the right direction. It was a negotiation. The public had their consent manufactured and were negotiated with.
>>108462402God had the providence to place evil over you. Without being Godly, you don't get Godly rulers, and will be punished for your arrogance should you revolt.
>>108462404>The public had their consent manufactured and were negotiated with.Sure. You lose some battles.Then you learn from it, and win the next one.Yes, the "powers that be" won on occasion because nobody in society was playing the game. Turns out it's very easy to win when you have no competitors.If your concern is that the blind lead the blind, then go and take off as many blindfolds as you can. That's YOUR duty, anon. As it is mine. As it is ours. Your defeatism is pathetic and unproductive.
>>108462407>God had the providence to place evil over you. Without being Godly, you don't get Godly rulers, and will be punished for your arrogance should you revolt.Yeah, sure. 1st Peter and shit, I get it.To be godly subjects of the laws of man is different from allowing evil to flourish. You are perfectly in the right to rebuke acts of evil, so long as you judge not the sinner while you do.
>>108462412You can't outhink demons. Everyone who isn't saved is a slave to satan at his disposal. This world is an illusion.
>>108462418>You can't outhink demons.Yes you can. The fuck are you talking about?Demons are retards. You ignore them and they have no power. It's that easy.
>>108462424>uses demonic words>doesn't think he's influenced by demons
>>108462424How do you outsmart a demon that's lying to 10,000 people that aren't you and don't even believe in God or demons?
>>108462431>demonic wordsAnon, please. Magic doesn't exist. Egregores are memes. Don't believe the lies you tell yourself about the nature of sounds.The sound and fury signify nothing.>>108462437>How do you outsmart a demon that's lying to 10,000 people that aren't you and don't even believe in God or demons?You don't. I can help to guide people, sure, but ultimately I am the only spirit over which I have power. To believe you ought to have dominion over the wills of others is a grave sin. If they wish to walk the path of demons, and find pleasure or satisfaction therein, that is their path to walk.I with them well. I'll pray for them. I'll be there if they want to change paths, and do my utmost to show them that other paths exist, but it's their life. Not mine. My spirit is the only one over which I have dominion, and the demons I slay are only those that try (and fail) to court me and me alone.
>>108461799>>108461867In this case operating system providers do not comply thus almost every distro is illegal, because even though some components of the system do comply, the system as a whole can't be anally zonded for your id data.
>>108462443t. Demon
>>108462443No, curse words entice demons. They are inherently arrogant thoughts which include them.
>>108462450A system that comes with the needed softwares installed and configured would be in compliance. There's is no requirement that compliance be met by a single piece of software installed on a system that does all of it.
>>108459319My systemd fork to remove the bad parts:git clone https://github.com/systemd/systemd.gitrm -rf
git clone https://github.com/systemd/systemd.gitrm -rf
>>108462456>No, curse words entice demonsCome the fuck on, mate. Stop the LARPing. It's cringe.The fault is in you, anon. There are no demons, it's just you. You call it a demon when you want to pretend your own sin isn't yours to bear.The more you know yourself, the more you discover that demons are merely the shadows of you.
>>108462470I spoke to an appartion of Molech just last week before my first mass attendance. I am literally possessed.
>>108462463Should really have a fork called liberd that culls ALL the dumb shit that systemd is bloated with.
>>108462475>I spoke to an appartion of Molech just last week before my first mass attendance. I am literally possessed.Oh no, how spooky! Is it contagious?!
>>108462459Yes, but none of existing systems are compliant in their current state. To make them compliant at least there should be mechanism to force you to populate that field in a verified way (using phone camera identity verification provider for example) and mechanism for browser to get that data from systemd and share it with websites. So this is what's gonna be implemented next.
>>108462479If you beat your kids, it'll happen to them.
>>108462483Damn, that's sucks.
>>108462482That's going to be a future negotiating point once people are getting caught circumventing the systems. Now, they are beta-testing the fundamentals.
Contentious demons!
>>108462475I've got two demons speaking to me 24/7 at all times, that are kinda ignorable but also moderately annoying. Also I got a music demon who makes me extremely angry and irritable for small periods of time but goes away fast. And a bunch of flirtsy semen demons that are mostly kindred and pleasure to deal with.
>>108462482>>108462488Aye. It's important to stop this shit before it gets implemented. It's much easier to use as leverage after the systems are in place.The simplest means is to spread negativity about any distro that implements it. "I used to like it, but it turned to trash and I switched to X that is great!" type chaff all over. You can do more, but that's the lazy bro's way to go if you aren't up for more serious advocacy.The legal (4th Amendment) argument is huge. All this shit happening at once is such a bother.
>>108462491>Contentious demons!We aren't contentious, shut up.
>>108462497That sounds almost exactly like my own experience. You're only convincing yourself that the sexual demons are pleasurable because muh dick. Try to stop and find out that you keep doing it to the point of it becoming involuntary. They won't be so kindred anymore. You should go to an orthodox parish and talk to a priest.>>108462499
>>108459319What a shock that the obvious thing that would happen, has happened because any law about this is stupid.Continue business as usual.
>>108462499Yeah we should try, but I'm sure it's gonna be a day late and a dollar short. It's just the way of things.
>>108462526>Yeah we should try, but I'm sure it's gonna be a day late and a dollar short. It's just the way of things.Sadly, not all battles can be won.Plenty can, though. A cloud of general misery and negativity being cast over every distro that implements this garbage is a huge foothold. Arch instantly lost my 80 dollar a month donations. Never touching that festering shit pit again. Consider their reputation dead and unrecoverable, as far as I'm concerned.
>>108459690half of the dev team are feds or spies, they work for large companies and they pay their salaries.
>>108462536That's ridiculous. The OS's are being legally compelled, not you. You can install whatever you want on your system. Nothing is stopping you from running a compiled version of systemD on Arch right now.
>>108462539>half of the dev team are feds or spies, they work for large companies and they pay their salaries.And every single dayum one of them should be named, shamed and ostracized.
>>108459864Then i stop using those websites and apps because they will be cnn.com-tier shit anyway.
>>108462541>That's ridiculous. The OS's are being legally compelled, not you.Support or compliance with an evil of this magnitude is something I consider unacceptable. Protest is the civic, the moral and the eternal duty of every person on every one of these projects.> Nothing is stopping you from running a compiled version of systemD on Arch right now.Sure. I'm willing to abandon all my experience with Arch for this. I'd rather relearn an entirely new OS from scratch than support this trash in even the slightest of ways.
>>108462558>evil of this magnitude>ITell me why this is a thought distortion.
>>108462564>is somethinglearn2read
>>108462558Basically, you're blowing this out of proportion. It's not that bad yet. Nothing will be solved by doing this. It will just fragment the ecosystem further. The non-systemD alternatives aren't real alternatives because they are a trap because of plaintext logs. The entire linux community had 10 years to address this with a legitimate effort, but instead they used obsolete software on protest distributions, clinging to some notion of a unix philosophy that doesn't keep your system safe from infiltration. This is while everyone complains about the possibilities of backdoors in systemD, which is the thing that provides a means of detecting intrusion that an attacker can't cover up, through binary logs and journald.
>>108460586>If websites and apps can't tap into that systemd field right now it means it doesn't comply with that law.*California lawI have bad news for you burgermutt: there are more places on Earth than America. And even if America goes full Trump Firewall and demands all sites everywhere on the internet comply with specifically US Californian law, most countries in the EU just aren't going to do it. They will not identify themselves to the Trump regime or Newsom or any other authority figure. So the solution you're proposing is just make "American Internet: everything is shit and locked down" and if that's your suggestion, I'm all for it. Let's Make America A Dark Age Shithole Again
>>108462573>Basically, you're blowing this out of proportion. It's not that badSure. Pouring the foundation of a death camp isn't a big deal, because it's just a bunch of concrete in the ground.>yet.There's the rub, though. Why allow it ever to progress? If where it will inevitably progress to IS going to be a big problem, then it is ALWAYS better to stop it before it gets to that state.> It will just fragment the ecosystem furtherAh, I guess it's the thread so yeah. I do agree that the systemd issue, in specific, isn't the biggest thing. The mere implementation of age as a data point isn't too much of an issue. I would say the issue of its timing mere moments after a big WEF gathering, and the evident motivations behind it/ connections of contributors to said questionable monetary sources, point to something that IS a big issue though.I will concede that this small change to systemd isn't a huge issue on the surface though. I'm talking more about the milieu at large, the year or so of internationally orchestrated age verification via OFCOM, Australian NGO lawfare etc. leading into this. One individual bit may not be a huge problem, but I am talking about the whole of it within the context of this one bit.
>>108462599Russia takes EU. UK is on notice over the Ukraine War. US can't secure European territory, and definitely won't be able to in post-iran economic circumstances. We will be relegated to our hemisphere if we can even project force south at all.
>>108462616>Russia takes EU. UK is on notice over the Ukraine War. US can't secure European territory, and definitely won't be able to in post-iran economic circumstances. We will be relegated to our hemisphere if we can even project force south at all.Europe is on its deathbed and soon to be strangled from all sides. The Middle East is a cornered dog with rabies, ready to cripple as much of the world economy as possible before it gets put down. South America is awash with dozens of different foreign entanglements.All yet more reasons to work at reuniting the anglosphere!
>>108462644There is no anglosphere, just a rotting Christendom.
>>108462651>There is no anglosphere, Yet.
>>108462653The great flood has chased after, and has threatened to swallow her up. There is no Jew or Greek in Christ.
>>108462659>There is no Jew or Greek in Christ.True and fair.But we remain, still, the children of men.
>>108462668oikonomia
>>108462675Try as I might, I've yet to find a way to be free of this blood. A curious puzzle to be thrown into, isn't it?
>>108462682The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.
>>108462688>The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.We'll get it as strong as it needs to be, God willing.First, though, I have to finish these Doritos...
>>108462695But it's lent!
>>108462702The Doritos calleth...
>>108461908mask off speedrun any%
>>108459627The goal is linking all of your digital activity with a unique ID, this is the first small step towards that.The frog is boiling, slowly.
So it's forked, so what? Do you know impossible it is to integrate a forked systemd into a distro packed with it? Systemd runs deep, you'd brick your install.
>>108463301>The frog is boiling, slowly.It's called Fabianism and you should know about it.
>>108463342>Systemd runs deep, you'd brick your install.>Acquire FREE!! iso.>Put FREE!!! iso on flash drive>Back up files>Format drive>Install FREE!!! iso on same drive.>Put all the backed up files back, on a new machine without dystopian surveillance state tech in it.Wa la!
>>108459319>MSFT stock down bigly.>Sleeper agents activated to begin enshittification protocols.Like clockwork.
>>108463445I'm so fucking tired of every god damned FOSS project being infiltrated by these compromised retards.
>>108459627>erm this is only allowing websites to access your personal details, stop freaking out!!genuinely what the fuck is wrong with you
>>108459319based>>108459357based
>>108459319I can't see any of these forks going anywhere tbqh
>>108459579Systemd having an optional info field for your dob in addition to your name, email, whatever else info there already could've been seems like a pretty minor thing to slippery slope to mass surveillance etc
>>108459899>passkeys you clearly misunderstood that one, the protocol is solid. it works as intended inside keepass, you are in control of the private keys. its just that the protocol doesnt disallow tech giants to be vendor lock-in cancer with them.
>>108459319Artix dinit chads will stay winning anyway
>>108464083>I can't see any of these forks going anywhere tbqhSomething must. Likely not a systemd fork, but some alternate altogether.Compromised bad-faith actors like Poettering should not be allowed to thrive.
>>108464127I don't see people caring enough about an info field to carry a whole fork when they find out it was a nothing burger. If things go real bad then maybe
>>108462221apparently these laws were struck down once already by some state-level court, if someone were to sue there is precedent to kill this age verification bullshit then and there.but these tech companies will then try to find another way to worm themselves into our systems, nothing will stop them from adding more bloat and ads. eternal cat & mouse retardery.
>>108464139>don't see people caring enough about an info field to carry a whole fork when they find out it was a nothing burger. If things go real bad then maybeAnd that's the problem.People ought to care more about whether or not something so integral is being run by someone who wants to, and is paid by the people who want to, kill Linux and FOSS as a whole. Seems a bit irresponsible to let a person like that be in charge of something so important.
>>108464142>but these tech companies will then try to find another way to worm themselves into our systems, nothing will stop them from adding more bloat and ads. eternal cat & mouse retardery.The only way you get evil to rest, is to destroy it utterly. If, as a society, we are unwilling to partake in the dogged brutality of strict moral imperialism, then we will forever be locked in this petty slapfight with wannabe tyrants.That's just how things are.
>gets bored of the fork in 2 weeks when people just stop caring and give up another freedom
>>108464178Maybe this isn't the step too far. It still should be shared and lauded.The more this shit happens, the more awareness of the problem piles up. Every time a 1,000 people give up a freedom due to laziness, 999 people look back with regret.
>>108460237>unless you think every mainstream distro to just stick it to the man and defy California's lawsThey should and NEED to do itBlock commiefornia, fuck their servers
>>108464204>Block commiefornia, fuck their serversIt's the only way. I simply will not trust a distro that complies with laws this abhorrent.Unironically, I would rather build linux from scratch than trust that shit.
>>108459686>an OS level api/signal that websites or apps can tap into to determine agewhy the fuck did they take it upon themselves to define the technical implementation? Fucking retarded law that deserves to be ignored completely.
>>108464213>why the fuck did they take it upon themselves to define the technical implementation?Because Mark Zuckerberg & co. workshopped shit and found that forcing everyone else to manage their own spyware it via lawfare was the cheapest way for them to implement more data scraping.
this is going to be abandoned within a month like that sneedacity project
>>108464148I don't know, there's a shitload of crying the wolf moments. Can't expect people to always care
>>108464249>I don't know, there's a shitload of crying the wolf moments. Can't expect people to always careSure, discernment is important. False positives are bad. I agree.That doesn't negate the fact that people SHOULD care. Have strong principles, and simply refuse to budge on them under any circumstances. Know the origins of your own philosophies so that you can be confident your principles are worthy of standing unmoved. If you manage that, you find the need to care is alleviated and you simply act rightly in all things without needing to think about it.
>>108464249None of these are crying wolf moments, what happens is there's an attack and backlash makes them back off. It's all a tiny ant's-march toward tyranny
>>108464362>None of these are crying wolf moments, what happens is there's an attack and backlash makes them back off. It's all a tiny ant's-march toward tyrannyNothing ever changes, until one day you wake up and everything is different.
>>108464362>Attack>Another user info field in userdbEh...
>>108461928That's what people said about xlibre 1500 commits ago.
>>108459627i hate reddit faggots so fucking much it's unreal
>>108459380This but Dinit
>>108459627>that can be filled in by a root user/administrator for any user You know what's coming next, right? You're not going to be the administrator of your PC any more.>B-b-but servers!They don't care about servers, but if you want to access any public website you're going to need to use an Authorized Browser on an Authorized Operating System Image, which requires you to use an Authorized Identity Verification Provider to verify your identity on user account creation.Phones are going to be like this within a year or two, PCs within 5 to 10 years at most.
>>108463022complete nonsense, you alright?
>>108459406Why not use Artix
>>108464499Actually they will finalize the transition for 2030, if you've been paying attention it's been put in motion on different angles all around: lobbying for passing legislation on a bipartisan level, centralized projects complying immediately, google restricted sideloading by September, restrictions on routers, ai integration on client side (to further reinforce the mainframe principle), hw prices spiking up, and so on.If anything i find absolutely amazing there are people still using "conspiracy" as a derogatory at this point. The elites can do picrel all day at this point, demoralization is completed.
>>108459319>https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/systemdMaybe this is a retarded question but if I install systemd liberated and then use pacman to update arch in a week from now, won't that just replace overwrite systemd liberated? Is this guy planning on updating everytime systemd does?
>>108464532retard
>another rage fork that will go stale in a week
>>108464735uh oh meltie
https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/systemd-suite/issues/1#issuecomment-4139131265
>>108465003lol, the nerve of this guy
>>108465066If it weren't from the author of the original patch, that's actually a technically sound way to patch it. The patch is short and correct too.
>>108465106I would imagine the spirit of this fork is to say "fuck you" to regulators, and refuse to add any info they require. adding these fields and filling them with junk data seems like a bitch move.
>>108465123It's probably clever though - if any app checks age, you won't get content restricted. Discord will default to under 13 if not verified otherwise.
>>108459627>Systemd is not asking for your fucking IDYet
>>108464930your retardation is more of my business
>>108463414I’ve looked into it, and it’s not actually true.It’s a view held by left-wing parties and progressive, globalist institutions, but nothing more.This whole age verification and digital ID push is happening in pretty much every western nation, not just the UK.In every country, moderate parties on the left and right are pushing for it, while radical parties (on the far left and far right) are against it but secretly want it. Only the liberty oriented ones such as libertarians are pushing against it but that does not really matter much because they represent a small minority in every national parliament.
>>108459899>Android SafetyNet That thing makes sure you cannot make anything that matters work correctly on degoogled devicesThe only reason we don't have it on PCs is cause there is gonna be edge cases where normies have a computer that's like 10 years old that doesn't support TPM / doesn't know how to enable it
>>108465150aspie meltie
>>108465298I called you an idiot for not knowing what I meant. I understand you've only ever used ad homs as meaningless buzzwords all your retarded life.
>>108465308just stick to tinkering, bud
>>108465385I wasn't the guy you were bickering with. not all windows users are retards but all retards are windows users.
what is systemd? someone explain to a non linuxfag
>>108465409>but all retards are windows users.Not true, come on. There are plenty of morans using GNU+Linux & Macintosh. Shit, I bet there are a few idorts using Haiku and Amiga.Just agree that the majority of our planet's population consists of dummies.
>>108465431just because you believe they're retards doesn't mean they're the objective, dictionary definition of a retard. I will concede that some mac users are retards because retards may stumble into an apple store sometime and retards may be able to get rich to begin with in our clown world.
>>108462251>it needs to be SOMEONE'S fault my little johnny saw boobies when he looked them upThe parents were provided parental controls, but they were poorly communicated or their use was neglected. There legally doesn't even have to be any of this game of blame hot potato, because tools for parents have already been made and integrated into these systems. There is 0 argument for the age verification being demanded now.
>>108465431macintosh is the objectively superior choice to windows in 2026. keep up.
>>108462541>they are legally required to do business in Cali and Brazil where they have no physical presenceOh wait, they're not. They are choosing to do something they are not required to. Darn.
>>108459579The "toddler" thing and other repeated namecalling instantly tells you they are running interference
>>108465446No the parental controls are ineffective and a spiritual weapon. Stop showing porn to kids you creep. Porn should be illegal and creating it should be punishable by death.
>>108459864public FYI that faggots like this purposely ask shit like this to see what their "opposition" plans on doing. Don't engage.
>>108465457>keep up.Good job not understanding English, my turd world newfriend, if you are even human that is.
>>108460166Such an organic post, wow.
>>108462526>dickhead gets paid to go to <popular site> and go "i agree but no haha"You do not deserve human rights.
>>108459319Petition to rename to SystemSneed
>>108465508Human rights were made up by the UN to enslave poor countries who can't afford the, so I'd have to agree with you, there.
>>108465508Are we coming ahead any dollars or do we work for free? Was systemD forked proactively or are you still bitching about it? Where do dollars and days come from?
>>108465508Do you think it grows on trees?
Time is money, frens.
>>108465484>spiritual weapon.Tweaker skitzo>stop doing thing I'm theatrically pretending to blame you for Tweaker skitzoJust whitelist your dns filter, and "fix" the connection problem with sites/apps that you know are good. No surveillance needed from anyone.
>>108465553No, the state should execute practitioners of witchcraft who name themselves after demons and show you the soles of their feet.
>>108459319>https://github.com/Jeffrey-Sardina/systemdthis guy is going wildhttps://jeffrey-sardina.github.io/Boycott-AI/
>>108465521>>108465514>>108465512>all 100s apart>all barely related "arguments" when I was pointing out posting behaviorMad cuz bad lol
>>108465574You're philandering.
>>108465512>>108465574>didn't mean to replyAaaaaaand I need coffee, my bad
>>108465457For what? Browsing the Internet and nothing else?
>>108465580>what is "floundering" as in the fish?You're a jumpy fucker for how shit you are lol
>>108465607You are being casual and glib, not thinking about your words. that's what philandering is, in this context, alluding to having lascivious sex with loose women.
>>108465615Rather glib than musl
>>108465626I kinda like musl. It has it's uses.
Goblin tinkerers...
>108465657Paid>108465626Per>108465615Post
>>108465795Paranoid
>>108463342Then it's the responsibility of the distros to do the right thing.
>>108463342What should't be implemented could always just be spoofed.
>>108459429>I doubt they can even prove malice on systemd's partNever attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice
>>108464092Normally, maybe, but when it happens at the same time as a law that's an actual slippery slope to mass surveillance and directly references that law, I'd say it's worth getting concerned over.
>>108464116>you are in control of the private keys.you aren't when vendors start forcing provider whitelists.
>>108465795>can't quotenewfaggot.gtfo.
>108465818>108465980>108462526(You)
>>108466676980 isn't me. Keep trying.
>>108465473The amount of obvious shills in these threads trying to downplay it makes it clear it's a massive glow op
>>108460487>>108462247>>108464547I'm back on Arch.So far in UK no age shit. So far Arch has not made any stance on age shit.X server on Nvidia is ass, it is poop covered ass even the browsers has tearing and if you fix that then you have tearing somewhere else. I am a gaymer so I need my graphics.I have void on my AMD laptop but fuck it, Arch is king.I'd try Artix but Nvidia makes everything just plain ass.It's all ass.Just ass.Arch is great.
>>108464092Yeah jews are right about certain things. Seeing such retarded posts cement my opinion that goyim are truly cattle.
ZUCKERBERG PUSHED THE OS CONTROL LOBBY IN CALI AND COLORADO BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WOULD BE FOUND LIABLE IN NEW MEXICODON'T LOOK AT THE SPECIFICATION, LOOK AT THE IMPLEMENTATION.SYSTEMD IMMEDIATELY REACTED TO A META LITIGATION.SYSTEMD IS PALANTÍRI TECHNOLOGY.
>>108466765The fact that you go out of your way to get his attention shows why you're even in this thread>>108466804Seriously
>>108467635No it doesn't. You're gonna have to make the argument. As OP, I baited everyone here.
Fork systemD harder. Shills btfo. The Great Satan seethes at forking systemD.
>>108466823I use artix and it works fine with my RTX card
>>108467007>SYSTEMD IS PALANTÍRI TECHNOLOGY.Based truth teller. Never stop.We NEED to get every fucking distro off this corrupt ass compromised systemd shit RIGHT THE FUCK NOW.
>>108466823>So far Arch has not made any stance on age shit.Silence is an admission of guilt.Banning people for talking about it from all your forums is an admission of guilt.Moreover, just because they haven't made a statement doesn't mean they are free from going that route. We still have a duty to make it clear to the developers of Arch that they should be making a commitment in opposition to it, and they should stop banning people for talking about it on their forums.This isn't some "aww it'll blow over" shit. This is the largest tech companies on the planet attempting to keelhaul the tech world into a permanent surveillance dictatorship. This is NOT the time for fence sitting.
I'll care when systemd asks for my personal info and there is no way around it and not a second sooner.
>>108469023>I'll care when systemd asks for my personal info and there is no way around it and not a second sooner.“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”.
>>108468992Not only systemd but also any project where systemd devs have their fingerprints on.
>>108469045>Not only systemd but also any project where systemd devs have their fingerprints on.Doubly so. Every effort possible must be taken to make certain every single one of these devs has their name permanently exiled from every FOSS project for all of the future.May their names be mud and their progeny spit upon memories of them.
Why hasn't Potterdink been kicked off of the project for his conflict of interest here?
>>108469078>Why hasn't Potterdink been kicked off of the project for his conflict of interest here?Dictatorships insulate themselves.Dictators surround themselves with allies.Even on a tiny scale like this, it's a universal truth that you can't solve dictatorship from within its own circle.
>>108459319Another shitty fork that's going to be dead in the water in a two week span
>>108469171Correct. Fuck forks, we're just going to scrap systemd entirely.
>>108469087We need to exfiltrate Len Potter to a black site Maduro style.
>>108469209I switched to sysvinit. My system actually sped up. I don't understand wtf is going on anymore.
Idk but I'm not bothering to distrohop again
>>108459587getting my palantir neuralink that can read my every thought and report it to the (based and trad™) israel-USA co-prosperity sphere precrime system to own the loonix troonx
>>108469852>I switched to sysvinit. My system actually sped upYeah, systemd is a bloated shitpile crammed full of ten thousand stupid, unrelated useless utils. Turns out removing bloated shit results in better performance.
the democrat authors of these bills are on the record previously stating that voter id laws are racist against black peopleseems trivial to prove then that democrats are under the impression that they are enacting laws which are violating the civil rights of blacks
>>108471103Nigger do you think they care? If media doesn't frame them as hypocrites they pretty much aren't, even if their very base remember and it's enraged by this it won't matter anyways, the tiny hats mandate supersedes goy PR.
>tfw debian 13 will be the last system you will use for the rest of your lifeI'm okay with it but I still hate the dystopian future the globohomos are taking us into.
>>108461653Not him, but I had more trouble over the years with resolved than anything that came before. Honestly systemd-resolved is the only times I've EVER had dns problems on linux. But then I actually know what dns is and how to configure network interfaces, and don't need a magic auto-configurator that sucks and screws itself up all the time for no reason.Granted, it's been a few years since I've had to troubleshoot it but just because assholes finally brute-forced their retarded automation into not breaking constantly, doesn't make it good.
>>108459319FUD
>>108459627systemd jumped on this implementation to entrench themselves further into the linux echo system, if the next law requires further verification you know systemd will get on that too
>>108470525I have to admit, I ate up all the propaganda slop about systemd without thinking for myself.Btw, are there any petitions against the age verification laws yet?
Use case for SystemD?OpenRC does the job just fine and uses less resources.
>>108465493you are a shitskin
>>108459319If the government didn't want to establish totalitarian environments, they could have required porn distributors to access and API that requests age.However they did not need to require this API to be included in operating systems. Children could have been given devices that implement this API by the parents, this would prevent them from accessing porn.Adults don't need to use the API, meaning they are unaffected and everything works as before. It would be parents choice to give their kids such a device.This means the central authorities do not have full control over the individual (totalitarianism) and kids can still be protected.
>>108469007>Banning people for talking about it from all your forums is an admission of guilt.>hey, we're discussing whether to implement this draconian law or not. please don't spam the forums about it until a decision is made.>SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM>ding dong bannu>OMGZ MUH FREEZE PEACHI love when entitled retards become the victims of their own stupidity
>>108472631>please don't talk about it until it's too late to talk about it
>>108472421>Use case for SystemD?socket services>OpenRC uses less resourcesBy outsourcing everything difficult to something less efficient.
>>108472631Remember, shill.Your presence only proves the conspiracy.
>>108472145i'm actualy diagnosed with autism and i find the systemd drama ridiculous, it just works, idgaf i got better cows to pet.
>>108475173>i'm actualy diagnosed with autism and i find the systemd drama ridiculous, it just works, idgaf i got better cows to pet.The tactic of dismissiveness isn't going to work.
>>108459319Would it be possible to automatically create thousands of forks of systemd on github without age verification?
>>108459319>Systemd Forked to Remove Age VerificationSystemd doesn't have age verification.
>>108475253It will, you disingenuous faggot.
>>108475219i simply do not care, yes you can argue it doesn't need to be more than an init system.but you also don't have to use anything but the init part of it.systemd is not an init system it is a project that contains an init system as part of it.you can use just the init if you want.either way, my point being, there are better things to do than autisticaly obsess over something that doesn't matter and doesn't affect my life in any meaningful ways.it doesn't asks for my id or my age and never will, i don't care.now i do think that it is good that there are alternatives and i do not think software should have a dependency on specific init systems.but that's about it.
>>108472631I could interpret:>>hey, we're discussing whether to implement this draconian law or not. please don't spam the forums about it until a decision is made.As a point that the censorship of this topic in major distros is over-the-top. Or, I could read:>>OMGZ MUH FREEZE PEACH>I love when entitled retards become the victims of their own stupidityAs you saying that the people arguing against it are retarded.
>>108475276when it does then you can fork it, doing it before is just retarded.but it won't, it's out of scope of the project.you are just speculating shite out of your ass.
>>108475322Counter the problem now, before it becomes too big to stop. Crush tyranny before it takes root.
>>108475322>doing it before is just retarded.Why?
>>108475328Hey, do you know of any running petitions going against this stuff?
>>108475344Yes.https://www.change.org/p/exempt-linux-and-bsds-from-age-verification-laws
>>108475330because you are basicaly wasting time and ressources for something that may never happen.the most likely outcome is that the fork will die before systemd ever has age verification, and even assuming it does have at some point, that fork will probably be dead by then and thus just lead to more confusion when you try to find an actual alternative.>>108475328see above.if you are gonna act proactively, you are better off making a complete alternative rather than a fork based on a speculative premise anyway.>before it becomes too big to stopthis never happens.if systemd actualy had age verification, you can be sure there would be forks immediately and there would be no such things as "too big to stop".
>>108475376Thanks.
>Switch to sysvinit to see how it'd be like, given all these arguments going on about systemd.>My PC boots up significantly FASTER now.I've been spoondfed lies and I can't believe I believed it all.
>>108475383>because you are basicaly wasting time and ressources for something that may never happen.It's highly likely to happen, to the point where acting now will require less time and resources compared acting (reacting) later.
>>108476810>It's highly likely to happenyes, age verification software will happen, but it is extremely unlikely for it to happne within systemd.even le poetering said it has no place in it.>to the point where acting now will require less time and resources compared acting (reacting) laterit takes 10s to fork a project.maintaining a fork and keeping it up to date with the mainline takes a LOT more time than that.
>>108461653>>108471794 # chattr +i /etc/resolv.confSolves 99% of DNS issues.
# chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
>>108474133>socket servicesuse case?>By outsourcing everything difficult to something less efficient.so doing what an init system should do, nothing more.
