>systemd-timesyncd>systemd-resolved>systemd-browserd>systemd-linuxd>systemd-summonmolochd>you vill verify your age>you vill have a unique machine id>you vill hav ze butseks>you vill support baal>you vill ping ze goygle dns FUCK OFF POETTERING
how long do you niggas plan to keep spamming the board with this shityes poettering added a json field got it may allah punish himcan you at least stfu until he does another bad thing?
Poettering NSA asset
>>108461961SIR! DROP THE FROG OR I OPEN FIRE!
>>108462186Why should we stop we the people who want to ruin everything won’t?
>>108462849*when the
lenart poeteringagent interloper
>>108461961It's an optional JSON field in an optional part of systemd you can just not install that part of it or you can just lie about your age..
>>108462186Until systemd is dead.
systemdeez nuts
>>108461961How soon until there's a solid, up to date systemd alternative that gets widely adopted?I want off Mr Poettering's Retarded Ride.
>>108462849>Why should we stop we the people who want to ruin everything won’t?FACTS.Evil never rests.Eternal vigilance is the only way to a better future.
>>108464115Install Gentoo
more like systemN
>>108464168I'm looking into alternate distros right now. I'll try it out on my extra box.
Why would I want my system to have a d? Pure faggottry.
Ruin Poettering and his cronies like Dylan M TaylorThey must pay for their crimes against TRUE Open Source SoftwareThey are Microsoft Saboteurs sent to DESTROY freedom
>>108464200>Ruin Poettering and his cronies like Dylan M Taylor>They must pay for their crimes against TRUE Open Source Software>They are Microsoft Saboteurs sent to DESTROY freedomHear, hear!May their names be crushed to dust and scattered to the wind until they are permanent persona non grata in the tech world.
You know what would have solved the problem of corporate saboteurs infesting core components?Gatekeeping.
>>108462186all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing
>>108462821>>108461961>>108462849
>>108462186Not until systemd is legacy
this is now a wpa_supplicant hate threadwe will not have the year of the linux desktop until intel can force iwd onto your computer
>>108461961
>>108462186>can you at least stfu until he does another bad thing?no.
>>108461961I still don't understand what's wrong with systemd. Any time I ask I just get some rambling about red hat and trannies
>>108464622Imagine a parasite disguising itself as the fetus inside a pregnant woman and still growing inside her well beyond 9 months and making her tell everyone she's perfectly fine while trudging around nude in public.
>>108464768technology?
>>108464622I believe it just center's around the idea that most people think an initial system should just, well, start the OS up and doesn't need to also control the networking in said OS, or handle NTP in the OS, or really do anything after the OS has started. Like systemd-boot is as far as systemd shoulda gone type of thingLike I still remember when people were saying GRUB was bloated but at least it stops existing when the kernel is startedJust my 2 cents I guess
>>108462186>can you at least stfu until he does another bad thingBut he does that all the time
>>108461961good luck replacing elogind if you want to escape poettering, using seatd and turnstile is so aids
>>108463246>おれは すすみつづける。てきを くちくするまで。
I DECLARE A DIGITAL JIHAD AGAINST SYSTEMD!>>108462186kys systemDalit shill>>108464622>I still don't understand what's wrong with systemdhttps://nosystemd.org/https://www.without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page/https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/also:不名誉なプログラムシステムディー CVE-2012-1174 Delete Any Files コンピューターが破壊された CVE-2015-7510, CVE-2018-15688 Arbitrary State Insertion 状態注入 CVE-2017-9217 Buffer Overflow バッファオーバーフロー CVE-2017-9445 systemd-resolvd Remote Code Execution プログラムをリモートで実行する CVE-2017-15908 Denial of Service サービス拒否 CVE-2017-1000082 0-Day (ゼロデイ) Root Exploit コンピュータを好きなように実行させます CVE-2018-15686 Root Privilege Elevation (10.0 Critical Exploit!!) ルートアカウントの不適切なアクセス CVE-2020-13776 Root Privilege Elevation Again 特権の昇格 CVE-2019-6454 Kernel Panic カーネルパニック CVE-2020-1712 Arbitrary Code Execution 任意のコードの実行 CVE-2021-33910 Stack Exhaustion スタックのスペースが不足しました CVE-2021-40084 Denial of Service サービス拒否攻撃 >>108464942seatd just werks on devuan
>>108461961>LET ME FREE
>>108464768I don't get what this has to do with my post but ok, that's pretty hot>>108464878Seems a really trivial philosophical thing to be bothered by. I don't get it.
>>108464622>>108465263You're being obtuse but ok>trivial philosophical thingyou seem like you need a windows analogy more: imagine if the file explorer also had access to services, and if your file explorer crashes, you couldn't launch system services anymore. Does that sound a little dumb? if so then you get why the philosophy exists and why people hate Sysd so much for being a swiss army knife.
>>108462959>just not install that part oYeah, I remember seeing that installation selection field during the distro install. MORON
>>108465351>You're being obtuse but okI'm not though>>108465351>you seem like you need a windows analogyI don't use windows. But if I'm following your analogy it would mean Dolphin crashing would affect system services (what's that?). But systemd doesn't affect Dolphin (does it?). Can you use a real example?
>>108464622People don't like working software that challenges their UNIX weenie baby duck. That's it. systemd and its ecosystem literally heem Windows and macOS in their respective fields. People who don't know, don't know.
>>108464622Basically what >>108464878said. The unix philosphy is to do one thing and to do it well. Systemd is a gross violation of that by being way too over engineered. Comically also made by a German who are notorious for over engineering what should be simple. >>108465441Baby duck fag go KYS
>>108462186Is the problem fixed?
https://www.cve.org/CVERecord/SearchResults?query=systemdAs if willingly submitting your driver's loicense to access the internets wasn't enough...
>>108465812>The unix philosphy is to do one thing and to do it well.>Systemd is a gross violation of that by being way too over engineered.So it's a philosophical problem not a real technical one?
>>108462186It is just something that highlighted the state of systemd and problems that accumulated through the decades. Treat it as a reminder of unhealthy overreliance, which is especially bad if you consider how broken it is on all levels.
>>108461961>systemd-snutsd
>>108461961What's the part about the unique machine ID about? Is this an existing requirement or just part of the greater move to destroy anonymity?
>>108465812you first, unix cuck. unix lost for a reason.
>>108465812>The unix philosphy is to do one thing and to do it well.Which systemd ironically follows, systemd is a collection of programs that do one thing and do it well :^)
>>108466429UNIX descendants are the most used operating systems on the planet THOUGH
>>108465263>that's pretty hotSo you don't actually care about what's going on under the hood in the first place.
>>108462959>It's an optional JSON field for now>in an optional part of systemd for now>you can just not install that part of it for now>or you can just lie about your age..for nowthe reason people are so up in arms about this is because it's laying the groundwork for tying every computing device to your real life identity (gov't ID and SSN or non-U.S. equivalent), which is the ultimate goal>>108464115>How soon until there's a solid, up to date systemd alternative that gets widely adopted?minus 43 years SysV UNIX came out in 1983, and sysvinit is still maintained and developed
>>108461961>you shall break stupid laws at your own risk.>you shall be free from your bug eating habits.>you shall enjoy computers like its early 00s.>you shall not submit to the gubermint.>you shall not touch the pizza.https://agelesslinux.github.io/
>>108464193Gentoo defaulted to systemd around ~2014. I think you can still drive it with openrc but gentoo was never anti-systemd.
>>108461961But seriously, what comes next after the date of birth? It doesn't end there, does it?
>>108468284>But seriously, what comes next after the date of birth? photo ID upload as proof of agethey're manufacturing a crisis; first they mandate age attestation by saying won't someone think of the children, then in a couple years, they'll bemoan the failure of age attestation because kids can just lie and start pushing for age verification, because once again, won't someone think of the children >It doesn't end there, does it?never
>>108464942I've just made the switch recently, and it's alright. Only "issue" I've seen so far is power management, but thY could be resolved with other tools. Speaking of->>108465104Do you know what devuon uses for power management related tasks? Like handling the power button, suspend, hibanate, lid switch, and so forth? I looked at acpid, but it seems it needs some manual configuring. Which I don't mind, just thought maybe something else was out there already.
>>108462186I have merely assembled some rope, a 15 foot high platform with a trap door, and a large viewing area in front of the platform. Will you just relax bro nothing has actually happened yet.
>>108468386Sooner or later, you'll end up having to install some government app. Without it, you won't be able to run anything, and the internet won't work either. The EU, US, and the rest of the world already have plans for this.
>>108469098That's not even how the internet works. You'd just be walling those countries off from everyone else north korea style, nothing else would happen.
>>108461961no longer my problemtoday moved from debian to void
>>108468284should've just started with adding pronouns to get the support of troons if they really wanted to deal significant damage to the linux ecosystem
