how can they use my code and prompt for training? it's stealing
>>108463885>it's stealinglol, lmao even
>>108463885>how can the bank the use my money for investing? it's stealing
>>108463885The US ruled that rights are only for corporations, they can steal as much as they want.
I moved to GitLabpeople who still use github for their personal stuff are very retardo
>>108463885Open source licenses.
>>108463885>how can they use my code and prompt for training? it's stealinghttps://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/github-terms/github-terms-of-service
>>108463928when you "deposit" money into a bank, you are not actually depositing money into an account, but purchasing Financial Product which you then redeem for money when you withdraw. if you live in a western country, you haven't deposited money into a bank account since 2003. your salary transfer purchases you $X of Current Account product, or whatever your account is called locally, which you redeem for money when you spend it.
>>108463885The epstein class doesn't abide by laws, they write them.
>>108463885Digital scarcity and DRM for consoomers but not for corporations. The pirates of the 00s were right.
>>108463885Oh so now it's stealing, but when Artists were saying that you made fun of them.
>>108465246Because the AI will obviously honour your license and not steal your code for proprietary, close source, software, right?
>>108465171Thoughts on Codeberg? Some of the repos I follow went there.
>>108465350Good alternative, I chose GitLab only because we use it at work and I startet to like the UI more than GitHub. I had already transfered all my projects to GitLab before I knew Codeberg and don't want to do it again and set up Codeberg pages etc.
>>108465350>>108465367forgot to say that the CI/CD is very good at GitLab too and most important it is not microsoft
>>108463885>NOOOOO THEY USE MUH HECKIN CODEARINO FOR HECKIN AI AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOKYS
>>108465350>BergShalom, Rabi!
>>108463885I only put ai slop there anyway
>>108465348Pray tell how do you put closed source on github?
It's free, dont cry
>>108465350Code(((berg)))
>>108463885Because the courts ruled it's not for the same reason you reading and learning from code isn't. The AI doesn't store any real code, just weights of tokens that could technically recreate code.
>>108463885>how can they use my code and prompt for training? it's stealingSo don't use github. Duh. You shouldn't use it, anyway. Put your project as tar file on your hand-coded webpage.
>>108465270>when you put your code into a repo, you don't just put it there, github scans that and feed them to AI.You disagree, then you're banned, simple.
>>108463885You put the code on their servers so it's theirs, retard. This is very simple to understand.
>>108465653Read again, ESL.
>>108463885If you don't want your code stolen then don't publish it online.Simple as.
I push my stuff there on niche things to enforce my style
>>108463885They showed a notification that they change the rules and mentioned i can opt out, so literally yesterday i went to the settings and opted out.Not sure if that's a good idea, an AI trained on my shit code might actually be worse...
you don't need github or gitlab or any other service, check this outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIdBfjL62s
>>108463885number go up
>>108463893Why are you okay with kikes stealing code and selling it using AI as a front?
>>108465350it's just somebody else's copy of forgejoformerly gitea
>>108465937I don't care what those corrupt bureaucrats say.It is stealing, and there is only one punishment appropriate for thieves.
>>108469494They've created a single tangible thing of value in their entire history as a people.
>>108463885>how can they use my code and prompt for training?is it open or is it a private repo that they are using?If its a private repo then you should have moved to forgejo or getea like, yesterday. If your repo isnt private then that is your fault and you literally agreed to it
>>108463885when you made your account you agreed to their terms of service that has a line in jew legalese that translates to "we can change the agreement at any time without notifying you" and they changed the agreement to say "I agree all my code can be used to train microsofts ai"this is what happens when you trust SaaS instead of self host
>>108463885i super dont mind AI ""stealing"" my codethe current state of AI is nowhere near ready to replace real coders so i'm fineif it ever reaches the level where it can then that would be huge for humanity and i wouldn't take away such a significant advancement for the sake of "muh job". Imagine trying to prevent humanity from evolving into using motorized vehicles because you want to keep your horse carriage job.
>>108463885>it's stealingyup
Reminder that it is morally okay to reverse engineer every piece of locked down hardware.
>>108463885Property includes land, cars, money, furniture, women,... i.e stuff that actually exists. Not ideas, arrangements of letters or anything abstract.
>>108463885Cleanroom reverse engineering.
>>108470894without copyright by and large nobody would want to spend money on R&D and we'd still be living in the stone age
tech zealots deserve this, lie down in your own grave
>>108463885>what is an EULA?
>>108463885Probably covered in their terms or some dumb shit.Just host your own repo, or find alternatives. github has gone to complete shit.
>>108463885just run Forgejo yeah, have an account on github/gitlab/codeberg to report issues/contributebut why even bother with those for code - just host your platform
>>108470863It would only be ok if that good AI was local. If it's in corporate hands you will be sucked dry. They will increase prices and enshittify it when they get the market share as every other business. Only retards fall for subscriptions and that's because of them we are here. If people were not retarded, all these startups that tried that scam model would fail and they would stop doing that.
>>108470924>without copyright by and large nobody would want to spend money on R&DYes they would, there's many practical examples, such as before we had copyright.Innovation will always reward the inventor because only once it's released and popular can others copy. The inventor is known as the creator and others as copyers.Then for things that actually matter, like technology, it's HARD to copy. You need a massive amount of skill to reverse-engineer and copy advanced software or something like a processor.This moat can be so big that some of the worlds most valuable companies don't rely on the law, CocaCola and Mcdonalds come to mind. They could patent their recipes, legally protecting them from copycats, but they didn't because then the recipe would be known. And it has worked really well for them.In other cases (like entertainment) it's just trash. Such as Disney copying public domain stories, lobbied for copyright extensions and now they pretty much own public domain stories somehow.
>>108463928>since 2003since Foley v. Hill (1848)Deposit insurance still exists howeveryou should be worried more about stuff like EU BRRD 2014 where your "deposit" literally becomes shares in a failing bank LOL
>>108463928>>108465270>>108471075You deposit $10 and your bank is now magically allowed to lend out $1000 to others and charge interest. No they don't need to have the money they lend out. You put in $10, they lend out $1000, they get paid $30/year as interest from that loan. It is literally money printing in more than one way.Banks are fucking scams, if they manage to fail they have messed up so royally that they should burned down, earth salted and the ones in charge deported to africa.
>>108463885you agreed that github owns all code that you upload to their servers
>>108471068anon some R&D takes years and hundreds of millions of dollars. Simply being credited as the "creator" does not even begin to compensate that. And you are just completely wrong about nobody being able to copy it afterwards because its "hard".Also you cant just handwave certain entertainment media as "trash" because you dont like it personally. Fact is games like GTA, call of duty, battlefield, etc. would NEVER be created in a world without intellectual property laws. You may not like it because you prefer the purest of niche weeb anime loli games, but we live in the society (unironically) and your opinion isn't the only one that matters.
>>108463885If you willingly host your data on a us company and don't expect giving up your digital sovereignity you're stupid
>>108465350I like them but I'm a nobody. I didn't like all the bullshit in gitlab because I really only need a way to host my little programming projects easily and for free. They are also from Berlin while gitlab in in SF so it made more sense in my use case.
>>108471061It's ok I won't let them
Just moved over to self hosted Gitea, loving it so far. Glad I never had my main projects at github.
>>108471163>some R&D takes years and hundreds of millions of dollars.Then you will probably have a year of exclusivity before your competitor manages to copy it. Things that are hard to make are generally also hard to copy.>Simply being credited as the "creator" does not even begin to compensate that.It's not about credit. It's about being THE brand, or being a knockoff. People will pay extra just for brand names. And then you can start researching V2, get it out 1 year earlier and so on.Another real-life example is of course China, with shenzen being the tech and innovation capital of the world despite there being almost no IP laws in practice.>Also you cant just handwave certain entertainment media as "trash" because you dont like it personally.I was making a point about how things used to go to public domain, then copied by disney and then re-copyrighted with lobbying for extensions.But I'll do you one better, I will handwave away mass-entertainment as a whole. It's not valuable, mostly slop and people generally agree it's gotten much worse. If they couldnt justify funding it anymore and art will be made out of passion.> games like GTA, call of duty, battlefield, etc. would NEVER be created in a world without intellectual property laws.Probably would, they have DRM. Actually they kind of act like there's no IP laws by focusing on DRM instead of going after pirates.
>>108463885Do you pirate? Is piracy stealing in your opinion?Yeah, suddenly you are unable to be coherent anymore, huh?
>>108472866lol that's your position?
>>108472866What MS did is the opposite of piracy.Piracy:>Rich corpo is selling product, doesn't care about it, just wants money>Private individuals share product for freeCopilot training:>Private individuals share software for free, but cares about it and asks you share edits etc.>Rich corpo uses AI to learn, then sells access to the AI to copy the code now as closed source
So does copilot and ChatGPT become dumber if everyone uploaded shitty code on GitHub?
>>108463885So if a human reads your open source code for training purposes, he's stealing it? Retard.
>>108465171GitLab has their own AI agent platform though. How do you know they aren't using your code for training their AI?
>>108476194they also scan private non-propitiatory repos
>>108476194LLMs don't have the capacity to think, therefore all they can do is steal.
>>108465334Twitter "artists" don't licence their work
>>108476241my dad works at gitlab he said they don't
>>108476241>>108478723https://forum.gitlab.com/t/can-i-opt-out-from-my-code-being-used-as-training-data-in-gitlab-duo/96563/5
>>108479426I know, I already told you my dad works there
>>108463885Its not your code...
>>108463885>how can they use my code and prompt for training?You can literally tell them not to in your profile settings.Their announcement banner (very much not hidden!) literally has a link to the right settings page.If you can't handle that, you're literally a goddamn moron and shouldn't even be vibecoding.I've used "literally" literally correctly in every sentence I wrote of this post.
in fairness they did give free hosting and free website on github pages. also we properly said yes in a EULA that we did not read.t. coder
>>108474324anything less than 100 stars gets rejected
