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Gachaslop edition

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/

>/iemg/'s Journal:
https://iemgazette.pages.dev/

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/

>Measurements:
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22
• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30
• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18
• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>108422360
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>>108464123
Why is epz utter >>108464123
>>108464123
shit bros?
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a silhouette is as complete a description of an object as the degree to which one privileges proportions and outline
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>>108464123
so are the KZ AZ09 still the best bang for buck bluetooth adapters for iem's?
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>My SG Wan'er 2s sound almost as good as my Performer 5s despite costing way less
What is this black magic?
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>>108465359
chinese uncle magic
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>>108464277
>epz
one tier below mid, at best.
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Are there resources for speakers?
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>>108466179
wdym? EQguide's papers area you'll find the book Sound Reproduction that covers pretty much everything, and Erin has a series for dummies teaching how to understand le graphs, but if you're just looking for reviews/reccs his channel is the best too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYdhkNcV7Zk&list=PLnIxFR_ey0b37Ex4KV2mBz-kYB7QLffR1
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>>108466287
Sorry about that. I'm looking for budget speakers so I meant to ask if there's any recommended options or where to find that, like here for IEMs.
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>>108466287
I remember there were also a headphones general but it's gone now.
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>>108464123
Dead hobby
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why is epz g10 so good, bros?
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>>108466580
not as good as PR2
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>>108466592
Yeah, it's much better than planar rape 2.
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>>108466332
the usual reccs are
edifier MR3
JBL 350p
kali LP-UNF
ik multimedia iloud
adam d3v
and check https://www.youtube.com/@ErinsAudioCorner for more in-depth info
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>>108466648
Thank you
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Why don't your IEMs look classy like this?
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>>108466880
Fox > horse
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What is the most autistically optimal way to wind up my IEM cables and put them in their case without having them come back out completely tangled and fucked?
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>>108466961
roadie wrap, see Super review video about it
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>>108466952
that's a duck bro
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>>108466952
>GFC
gopnik fried chicken?
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Are there any knowers of tubes in here?
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>5128 DF + Room Curve
new KZ Axas HYPE!!!
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there needs to be mandatory "red zones" of graphs, depending on coupler used, to signify portions of the graph as unreliable.
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>>108465359
sound is just vibrations hitting your eardrum
nothing performer 5 does is inherently better than wan'er 2
their sound profiles are rather similar until upper treble which largely shaped by your unique ear canal anyway
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>>108467526
>nothing performer 5 does is inherently better than wan'er 2
if that were true, hybrids or even any iem that isn't a 1DD for that matter, would not exist.
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>>108467429
>300-800 2dB dip
y-yeah I don't think so
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>>108467541
Not really? Why would you think so?
If you think it's not true then what does performer 5 inherently do better in making vibrations?
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>>108467495
Might as well paint the entire graph red. 0-800 from acoustic impedance, 0-200 from the seal, 300 and 5k from insertion depth, 5k+ from everything.
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>>108467541
Nigga still thinks people buy those for sound quality.
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>>108467586
because making vibrations is hard to keep coherent when you're dealing with more than what pure sine in testing conditions would have you believe
>>108467626
Nice catch! You are correct in pointing that out!!
but really, you're on to something.
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>>108467671
because the absolute highest rated pos happen to be 1DD....lol
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>>108467680
>because making vibrations is hard to keep coherent when you're dealing with more than what pure sine in testing conditions would have you believe
Go back to school bro.
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>>108467566
ur dumb? that dip is because the 5128 has a fake dip in this area
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>>108467688
ok bro nice one bro you explained nothing of a rebuttal. you still in high school?
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>>108467687
Correct.
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How do I know if I am listening too loud. I think already deaf.
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>>108467409
If it's not hd600 it doesn't need tubes.
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>>108467541
Why do labubus exist? What are they inherently better at?
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>>108467680
>because making vibrations is hard to keep coherent when you're dealing with more than what pure sine in testing conditions would have you believe
this doesn't answer the question
>Nice catch! You are correct in pointing that out!!
am I talking to chatGPT?
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>>108467694
that's 711 measurement tho?
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>>108467848
He thinks you need two drivers to play two sine waves. Many such cases.
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we're still having discussions about music vs sine wave complexity, fml and fuck this general
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>>108467854
yeah? the point is, the delta will have a bump because the hptf data used has this fake dip
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It doesn't make the slightest goddamn difference what the graph looks like if the earphones still sound like shit.

perfect graph =/= sounds good
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>>108468072
bad graph = bad sound
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>>108468072
Nature likes good aesthetics.
Pretty graph = good sound
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what are we learning here? graph doesn't tell the whole story? no shit, sherlocks.
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>>108467795
Hd600 doesn't need tubes either. Tubes are kind of a gimmick
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any good tws for under 200€? have the original galaxy buds+, they sound like ass.
>what do you want them to sound like
like starfield 1s but wireless
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>Cable doesn't matter
Can you trust a reviewer who lacks the ability to hear cable techs?
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>>108467795
That wasn't the question.
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>>108468251
Who's we?
>>108468269
It needs a bass boost, tubes give it a bass boost. And it's not even the tubes that do that, it's the output impedance. You think the kind of man that wants tubes knows how to boost bass without tubes? For everything else tubes do nothing at best and usually they make things worse.
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>>108468072
>>108468133
>>108468220
If you EQ something perfectly to your ears it'll graph like shit on rigs. It's like that bell curve meme.
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>>108468321
Why even buy these if you want bass? Buy Fiio FT1 or some other bass cannon.
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>>108468381
Why buy something that'll make you bald? A question for ages.
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>>108468345
Ummm acktschually the Harman target is objectively the only good way to tune headphones, if they are off the target you need to EQ acktschually
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THIEAUDIO Origin, Monarch MKII, Monarch MKIII, or Letshuoer Mystic 8?
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>>108468393
Targets are for manufacturers, not consumers.
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>>108468397
Tea Pro blows all those out of the water for 1/3 the cost
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>>108468397
>has BA
gate
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>>108468393
Obsoleted by fox target.
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>>108468413
CCA Hydro hits the value mark better, is a hybrid, and is a fraction of Tea pro.
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>>108467742
post volume
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>>108468446
$5 value after revision.
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>>108468454
Nobody knows their ACTUAL listening volume with IEMs.
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>>108468012
you are not interpreting measurements correctly
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my e-wife is a kz-chad POGGERS
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*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*


https://open.spotify.com/track/3MvLovkjmg4SVAtQ0WgRtq?si=l6uSBftzQ_mfNasZVN_mnQ
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>>108468563
ok so ur dumb. humans don't have this dip at 300-800 as the 5128 measurements, once you learn that, you'll stop worrying about 2db mismatch using delta targets
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>>108468625
KZ just can't stop winning, dang
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i have 140 bucks paypal balance because i got chinked on aliexpress. do i get some pos or a vintage graphic equalizer?
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>>108468724
you are literally looking at human in ear measurements and 300-800 difference is like 8 dB. if anything 5128 is more in the middle. there's no "fake dip", retard
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>>108469348
https://www.hypethesonics.com/er2se-database/ humans trend more with the 711 slope instead of having a 400hz dip, any in situ data shows that, so ofc a delta for 711 will have a bump in this area and retards like you think this is a big deal
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>PK 400Hz 2dB Q 1
>toggles on/off
>nothing happens
oh no, muh adherence
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>>108469512
did the same just now and it VERY audible lol
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>>108469444
>humans trend more with the 711 slope instead of having a 400hz dip
citation needed
>any in situ data shows that, so ofc a delta for 711 will have a bump in this area and retards like you think this is a big deal
did sharur tell you that or something lmao?
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>>108469614
>citation needed
are you retarded fr? i linked the HTS website, and you literally can check the human data vs 5128 yourself, retard. https://www.hypethesonics.com/er2se_about/ the "MM" and CE1 measurements were taken using a mems mic placed in the eartip
>did sharur tell you that or something lmao?
do you even know how the delta is calculated?
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whats the best way to clean iem tips?
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>>108469707
rinse in water.
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>>108469752
thats it? nothing crazy like soap or IPA? cool
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>>108469707
With my fingers
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>>108469789
sure soap but water's good enough with a thorough rinse.
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>bought both moonhifi and hifigo mystery boxes
why am i such a fool for gambling.
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>>108469707
Pop them in your mouth.
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>>108470179
Dopamine kick
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test your pos' imaging capabilities for some fun
https://audio-imaging-test-lab.vercel.app/
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I daily a Sony NW-WM1Z with BLON-03's but i was wondering, what would a genuine upgrade from the BLON-03's?
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>>108470735
MK. II
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I just bought Tanchjim Bunny with the USB-C cable cause they sounded like they'd be really good for the money. How did I do picking these?
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why buy variations, I eq'ed my Cadenza's to them.
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>>108471636
but did you add the ba distortion?
that's what we thought, back to the drawing board broketard
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>>108471636
eq to subtonic STORM now. the upper treble notch improves imaging techs
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>>108471499
you did good
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>>108471636
Obsoleted by fox IEM.
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>>108469227
Pos and a dongle with a real equalizer.
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>>108471729
>upper treble notch improves imaging
where do you get this shit? you can't eq another pos techs.
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>>108473298
Debunked. Just use your ears or measure at the eardrum if you can't use your ears.
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>xhe thinks the probe tube mic won't break the seal and the position at the DRP is stable
>xhe thinks ears are omni mics
basement scientist attacks again
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>>108473685
>Debunked
where? there's no cheapo pos tuned to a TOTL one where the techs are 1:1.
in 2026 the market would be fucked entirely. but it's not.
it's a retarded premise, really.
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>>108473722
Why would you need an omni mic to compare two IEMs lmao. Measurements are for the deaf.
>>108473723
$8 IEMs have better techs than totl, you've been living under a rock.
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Nobody prefers TOTL tunings in blind tests but if they can see them suddenly they sound good. Really makes you think...
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>>108473749
>>108473766
>no one can hear what i dont
>my slice is the entire thing
>other people just havent realized the ceiling is eq and 4 dollars on aliexpress
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>>108473773
Enjoy your cables bro.
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>>108473749
>$8 IEMs have better techs than totl
sharur starts a hype train on an actual POS and you fell for it lol
>>108473773
>the ceiling is eq
the ceiling is driver quality and its implementation.
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>>108473795
TOTL IEMs have terrible drivers. Rarity of an item doesn't improve its quality.
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>>108473817
>TOTL IEMs have terrible drivers
they must have very good implementation then.
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>>108473795
>owns 1 IEM
>talks about driver quality
What is this mental illness called?
>says he owns more than 1 IEM
>won't show them
What is this mental illness called?
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>>108473827
>Also as a caveat – Hex is quite sensitive and regardless of source you will hear buzzing or hissing. Turns out because of space constraints in the shell Lee opted not to include the insulation for the piezo driver – as a result Hex will pick up any and all EMI noise. I can hear the buzzing whenever I place my finger on the touchscreen of my FiiO M27.
The implementation is terrible too.
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>>108473848
>The implementation is terrible too.
nice, an anecdote. you act like the initial statement was "all TOTL sound like it" or "all expensive pos have good implementation".
>>108473836
>owns 1 IEM
you know this, how? and which iem is my only one? lol schizo
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>>108473950
>owns 0 IEMs
I'm sorry.
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>>108473972
I feel sorry for you.
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>>108473972
nice deflection, I accept your concession :D
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>shills 500LM
>doesn't even own it
What is this mental illness called?
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>>108473983
My bad for assuming you own something, won't happen next time.
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>>108473989
>>108474001
goddamn you really are schizo.
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>>108473788
I unironically am, thank you.
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Trying my hardest not to buy the new f*io CD player.
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>>108474473
why not test it for a week then return it?
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>>108473723
It is possible
https://youtu.be/JVW53wmo-04
but you need proper measurements of both POS inside your ears which is impossible for most people... (or you can use your ears)
>in 2026 the market would be fucked entirely. but it's not.
are you retarded? You literally have no idea how market works stop talking about it.
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>moves pos 1-2mm
>EQ is ruined
that basement scientist is too funny
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>>108474593
>the headphone show proved it
yeah, no. the market would be fucked if you can actually eq totl techs into a shitbud. nobody would be buying anything $50 and over because a ceiling should be hit.obviously that's not where we're at. the market would be flipped on its ass, backwards if your baby einstein-level understanding was reality. it's not. cope harder with your eq
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>>108474652
>move unequalized pos 1-2mm
>pos is ruined
Parkinson's bros, it's over for us.
>>108474653
Nigga still thinks expensive IEMs sound better lol.
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>>108474653
>You literally have no idea how market works stop talking about it.
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>>108474686
you can't even discuss the topic at hand. you're handing me your ass with pre-concessions too easily.
>I can't argue but I'll just tell you you're wrong
see how far that gets you
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>>108474701
Thinking cheap pos sounding better than expensive pos would make expensive pos stop existing is literal toddler level understanding of the world, wait until you go to school kid.
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>>108474711
>cheap pos sounding better than expensive pos would make expensive pos stop existing
is exactly what I'm saying. you live in pretend land where the shitbud already exists, beating ANY totl out there.
it's hard to take anyone seriously nowadays when trannies still exist.
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You can't make cheap pos so heavy you can't wear it for more than 15 minutes, you can't make cheap pos change the FR depending on the volume, you can't make cheap pos literally destroy some bands of audio with out of phase drivers, you can't make cheap pos have over 1% THD at every volume, you can't turn cheap pos into an antenna for all EMI, stop coping.
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>>108474730
>is exactly what I'm saying
We read you loud and clear, kid. The existence of expensive pos is completely unrelated to sound quality. One day they'll let you visit canjam where you can hear for yourself lol.
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Why is EA500LM so mid, bros?
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>>108474768
this is the third time you need clarification.
you live in pretend land.
what I said, was, >>108473723
>there's no cheapo pos tuned to a TOTL one where the techs are 1:1.
you're so clouded by poor judgement and a failure to grasp your own feelings/accept being wrong about anything in life, I'll bet you'll physically cause your own cancer before accepting being wrong.
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>>108474779
because it’s warm compensated shartman trash. there are no dynamics to speak of when you have screeching lower treble and chinks are forced to add mud so that your ears don’t bleed
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>>108474787
There is cheap pos tuned to TOTL where the techs are 1:1, this has literally been tested before you were born in the virtualizazation study.
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>>108474793
>there are no dynamics
oh, you never heard it. noted
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>>108474805
>There is cheap pos tuned to TOTL where the techs are 1:1
nonexistent.
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>>108474809
The faggot reveals his true form as if this wasn't painfully obvious from the beginning >>108473836
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>>108474824
>emotional
>personal attacks
>no argument
>no rebuttal
>assuming way too much
this isn't disneyland where dreams come true
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>>108474818
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>>108474833
>get caught
>start crying
Music to my ears. All because you literally start shaking when someone insults the only pos you own lol.
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>>108474847
He doesn't even own it.
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>>108474768
let's say you genuinely don't hear it. let's say sq caps for you at shitbud level. why assume it's universally the same for all other perceptual systems? this is the thing that irks me about this pov, this self-assuredness. that your ears should be some fucking endpoint or standard. it's like some retard with shit vision saying 4 and 8k picture is as blurry as anything else. not a perfect analogy as you arent hardcapped in the same way but yeah
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>i cant appreciate TOTL on a showroom floor soooooo
fuck you
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>>108474883
The deaf not using visual analogies challenge: impossible.
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>>108474847
>>108474875
cope harder samefag
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>>108474653
>yeah, no
yeah no what? that's not an argument. Do you not understand what's been done in the video?
>nobody would be buying anything $50 and over
that's literally already happening and been happening for years. EQ or not lol. you really have no idea do you?
>the market would be flipped on its ass
already happened
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>>108474652
don't move it?
how does it actually change anything? if you move pos it will change FR anyway fucking up its sound. what's the argument here?
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>>108474730
how about you look up sales and see what actually sells lmao
nobody is buying totls already
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>>108474787
>there's no cheapo pos tuned to a TOTL one where the techs are 1:1.
techs are not 1:1 for 2 people listening to the SAME pos lmao when will you realize that it's not fucking magic... it's waves hitting your eardrum
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>>108475044
I feel like a man today
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>>108475020
>never reinsert your pos ever again
LOL
the argument is that when you fix a dip/peak and don't match the position again, you'll end up with a different peak and dip that isn't matching whatever pos you were trying to replicate
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>>108475157
>can't reinsert pos to the same depth
Colossal skill issue.
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>>108475157
>you'll end up with a different peak and dip that isn't matching whatever pos you were trying to replicate
and?
what exactly are you even arguing about?
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>>108475501
if you believe that to achieve the same techs all you need is to match the FR 1:1, then your ability to match 1:1 isn't going to happen bc itś not really feasible, therefore it's silly to keep bringing that up
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>>108475614
>if you believe that to achieve the same techs all you need is to match the FR 1:1, then your ability to match 1:1 isn't going to happen bc itś not really feasible, therefore it's silly to keep bringing that up
so now goal posts moved from "it's impossible" to "it's not feasible"? if moving matched pos around destroys techs then moving original pos around also destroys techs. So techs aren't really feasible in the first place.
Also like you are mostly wrong because if you are using pos which fits you very well positional variation won't mean anything. Do you actually know what moving ear canal resonance from 7k to 9k actually entails? For your own ear?
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Any point in getting a cable that isn't cheap as fuck?
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>>108476042
depends
good cables are pretty cheap nowadays
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>>108476134
recommended me one saar
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>>108476138
literally anything from consumer guide
https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/cables/
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>>108474473
Wtf
Didn't DUNU make a TOTL CD player last year?
Now this fiio has strong specs compared to it at 1/3 the price!
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>>108474473
Just listen to files nigga.
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>>108475037
i think you're right, most of it is probably just artificially propped up at this point. its all gonna come crashing down soon as the rest of the world realizes that eq and a few dollars is all you need.
have you thought about bringing your poses to canjams and meets to spread the good word? i would feel almost ethically obliged to do that if i was able. don't you feel a drive to demonstrate this? thank you for your work in any case, even just on here. it's not nothing and you've saved me a lot of money
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>>108477491
>its all gonna come crashing down soon
what all? people will continue to buy cheap af pos that sound already good enough for most
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>>108477491
It's already crashing. Shitbuds won.
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>sell 1 TOTL
>cover the entire manufacturing and R&D cost
Honestly incredible it lasted that long.
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why is epz g10 so good, bros?
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>>108477733
oh yeah it definitely does seem like that. too bad about the founders of empire ears who are now out of work but this was inevitable. well good riddance i say
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Would Tangzu eartips work with Tinhifi T2s?
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>>108478144
Apple and Samsung will hire them to put their state of the art technology into their products any day now.
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>>108477491
What 4th world shithole are you living in that you can't visit canjam.
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>shitty recs
>every resource managed by one (1) retard
>dead general
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>>108479723
Let's laugh a bit, tell us ur reccs
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>>108479751
Fox IEM, endgame.
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>>108478170
yes
>>108480013
no
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>>108477923
It took Subtonic 3 years to break-even and Josh (Prisma Audio) hasn't made a single cent in profit from Lux and Lumen. There's better get rich quick schemes than selling overpriced earphones.

>>108479723
The nature of this hobby is that you have to have to actually try stuff to meaningfully participate in it. Theoretical arguments and semantics can only carry the conversation for so long (and its basically the same arguments rehashed a thousand times since 2018).
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>>108480553
Bellsings(also known as "customized BAs") can't be that expensive.
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>>108480606
For Lux and Lumen, Josh spends 30/driver and bins 1/3 to 1/4 of them. He has easily thrown away thousands of dollars in drivers at this point. The sourcing of drivers that are up to spec and finding manufacturers that are willing to do ur CNC machined shells without buttfucking you can easily cost you 5 digits in initial investment alone.
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>>108480760
>and bins 1/3 to 1/4 of them
That's only needed for the reviewer sample though.
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>>108479723
bunny and gate are literally the best recs you can give
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>>108481042
So having rediscovered how good the Tinhifi T2 is, what's the upgrade path from these?
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>>108480760
they sound good but ngl my eq'd bunnys sound better
also might be my earlet genes speaking, but they were quite thick, why can't i find good slim pos that fit flush with my ears
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>>108481053
>what's the upgrade path from these
EQ
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>>108481380
he said upgrade, not downgrade
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>>108481907
meds
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>>108481907
He said EQ, not EA500LM.
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very simple fellas
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At what price point does the law of diminishing returns really start to kick? Also, how much of a difference in quality will you experience going from $150 to $300 iems, 300 to 500, 500 to 1k etc.
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>>108482405
inb4 10 poorfags say their $75 buds are almost as good as top of the line IEMs
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>>108482405
>sound quality with eq
as low as $2
>sound quality without eq
around $500
>build quality
around $300
>accessories
somehow, around $300
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>>108482405
>At what price point does the law of diminishing returns really start to kick?
at the price of my most expensive pos
>Also, how much of a difference in quality will you experience going from $150 to $300 iems, 300 to 500, 500 to 1k etc.
if you jump from any less expensive to my most expensive pos, life changing
anything above that, snakeoil
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>>108482405
>>108482405
literally $20-30
>Also, how much of a difference in quality will you experience going from $150 to $300 iems
zero
positional and unit variations will destroy the difference between any IEMs no matter the price
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>>108482409
>inb4 10 poorfags say their $75 buds are almost as good as top of the line IEMs
that's simply the reality for wired IEMs... "top of the line" IEMs literally do not do anything differently from $20 1DDs. actually chances are they are worse
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reminder that only like 2 anons have posted pics of kilopos and both are not insufferable poorfags or techtards
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Is Simgot SuperMix 4 still a good general recommended IEM?
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>>108482795
it's good. but is it generally recommended? not anymore not really.
I'd say its biggest problem is smooth nozzle so sooner or later your eartips will end up stuck inside your ear.
but they can be pretty cheap on sale too. So it depends on what you want from your IEMs
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>>108482405
Volume S is the sweet spot. Everything else is cope.
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>>108482405
$0-$20 - diminishing returns.
$20+ - negative returns.
There is a difference alright, just not in a good way.
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>>108483665
>empire ears at the bottom
TOTL bros, not like this...
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Going from normiebuds to regular IEMs is like going from spotify to flac.
Going from regular IEMs to TOTL IEMs is like going from flac to dsd vinyl rips.
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>>108481380
What's upgrade from EQ.
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>>108483786
more THD=more techs
it is known
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>>108484147
better EQ? sound quality is not infinite
if you want real upgrade go measure your HRTF and start measuring your IEMs with mics inside your ears lol
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>>108483807
Kind of crazy how all audiophile products revert to being dogshit eventually. DACs that play stairsteps, tube amps that change the FR, horrific horn speakers and abyss headphones, IEMs too heavy to wear for more than 15 minutes, snake cables that break connectors, power outlets that can fucking kill you...
Never seen it in other hobbies. Maybe with CRTs, but they still have undeniable merits.
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>>108484418
And there are no boutique companies making overpriced CRTs, it's all retro shit.
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>>108482405
going from 300-400 buds to 500-600 iems was a massive improvement. 500-600 to 1000 was a much smaller increase in quality.


Don't listen to the poorfag copes.
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>>108484845
lol
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>>108464123
i got some moondrop pills but they are kind of a piece of shit
the stem seperated from the battery and even gluing it doesnt really fix it
what are some decent but budget ear buds that are like that? i need them to clip on cause my ear shape is weird and the air pod like style just falls out no matter what foam or silicone tip i use.
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>>108482795
ear-grating shartman target pos, avoid
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Two upcoming things from Tanchjim
SPACE II dongle DAC/AMP
MIST flagship IEM
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There's no way he isn't reading this thread.
https://youtu.be/paTir_fcQWg
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>>108482405
that depends who you ask but i think its pretty safe to say somewhere around 3-400. after 1.5k is where you're looking for something specific or you know what to listen for. randoms demoing these sets will almost always call it snakeoil
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are samsung buds 4 pro's /iem/ approved
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>>108486235
Yes, TOTLzo approves it
https://youtu.be/-lyBi3O-Egg
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>>108486235
No, they don't even have wires.
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not giving your video any views. post an AI summary of it here.
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>>108486860
This video covers a comprehensive review of the Samsung Galaxy Buds 4 Pro, marking a return to form for Samsung's audio lineup after the disappointment of the Buds 3 Pro (0:29). Priced at $249.99, the review focuses on sound quality, build, and features (1:03).

Sound Quality Analysis (1:17):

Sound Signature: The buds feature a V-shaped sound that is very consumer-friendly, offering plenty of rumble and thump in the bass, paired with bright, forward vocals and treble (1:46).
Mid-range: Despite the V-shape, the mid-range remains remarkably natural for a true wireless earbud (3:13).
Comparisons: The Buds 4 Pro are considered top-tier, on par with the Apple AirPods Pro 2nd Gen, while clearly outperforming the Buds 3 Pro and AirPods Pro 3rd Gen (5:08).
Performance and Features (7:43):

ANC & Transparency: Active Noise Cancellation is a significant upgrade over previous models (8:49) but still slightly weaker than industry leaders like Apple (9:05). The transparency mode is adequate but not best-in-class (10:17).
Microphone: Features improved voice clarity in noisy environments compared to the AirPods Pro 3, though it can sound a bit glitchy at times (10:35).
Battery: The buds offer roughly 6 hours of battery life with ANC enabled, which is considered on par with the industry average, but not impressive for the premium market (12:16).
Final Verdict (13:02):
While features like ANC and battery life are just "okay" for the price, the Buds 4 Pro deliver excellent sound quality, making them a viable alternative to the AirPods Pro for Android users (14:02).
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What temp should I use on a heat gun to adjust the ear hooks? Lowest possible?
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>>108487181
Heat gun is overkill, use hair dryer or quick passes with a lighter.
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>>108487448
idk I'd prefer using a heat gun cuz hair dryer is too scattered to properly heat it up. Guess I could do light quick passes on the lowest temp and check the temp via an organoleptic test: touching the hook.
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AutoEQ SUCKS! Just get your hrtf and hptf bruh
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>>108487917
Oh yeah, it's not a literal heat gun, it's one of those Yihua standalone hot air thingies for soldering. I'm a retard for not clarifying that up front.
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>>108482405
no such law exists if you aren't poor
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>>108487969
>hrtf and hptf
Why haven't chinks made a cheap kit to test those two yet
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>>108483665
>EPZ Q1 Pro not on the list
The world needs to hear about fox IEM's
Also yeah chinks successfully applied the 80/20 rule to IEM's. You get 80% of the audio quality for $20, and the remaining 20% are the diminishing returns.
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>>108487969
They really had to that shit to prove EQ by ear works and some retards still don't get it...
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why do my tws sound bad on my computer, yes i know >using tws but still aieee. i go outside and bike too much not to use them.
is it just because of my computers bluetooth driver or whatever ? ive listened to my friends streams before and theyll sound great on my phone but as soon as i get to my computer they sound like theyre underwater.

what causes this
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>>108488430
PC doesn't support the "good" bluetooth codecs, also if you got the mic on them active the quality gets annihilated.
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Reminder to spend your stackable Saving Mondays credit on Aliexpress.
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test your pos imaging capabilities/your imaging perception abilities here for some fun
https://audio-imaging-test-lab.vercel.app/
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>>108485934
Why do tanchsistas need so many dongles
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>>108489287
They work as dildos and plugs
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>>108489287
Don't know but forget to tell you all to buy your Tanchjim Space for $30.
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>>108485846
What do you recommend instead then?
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>>108489543
nta but if you want pure harman like the sm4, just get the elua ultra for way cheaper
if you want a good harman-esque pos, chopin
if you want something good, any pos + eq
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>>108489543
NTA but bunny DSP or truthear gate
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OH10 or Hane, choices choices...
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>>108488162
Fox is the remaining 20%.
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>>108464745
techs live in the outline which vary with insertion and therefore they arent real
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$5 Shitbud Alert
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>>108490261
bro is in 2024
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>>108490261
>fart or shart
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>>108492399
Techs live in the faceplate.
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Chink DSP dongles are so bad, you can't even EQ L/R separately.
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>>108494882
which dongle specifically does that issue happen?
and which dongles do it correctly?
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Hello, /iemg/, tard here. I recently got the Truthear X Crinacle Zero Blue 2, my first pair of IEMs, and I think they've been pretty nice (note: I've been using a shitty gamer headset for 12 years). I'm using the JCALLY JM6 Pro as my DAC, and I'm noticing a hiss whenever I open Discord or listen to a song with a quiet part. Is this because of the DAC?
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>>108495351
>Truthear X Crinacle Zero Blue 2
>5.8Ω
>119.5dB/Vrms
it's the iems.
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>>108494882
One of the reasons why I'm still using jamesdsp.
>>108495351
Yes. You'll need at least jm20 to have no hiss.
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I've used a Sennheiser IE200 fairly consistently for over half a year now and I still get severe ear pain if I use them for more than two or three days in a row. Wtf. My ears are tiny.
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>>108495560
>Yes.
no. if anon had a less sensitive pos, he'd have less hiss.
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>>108495843
Keyword less.
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dead general. as dead as hpg
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we cracked the code, now we enjoy nirvana
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you guys are strange, IEM = in ear monitors
they are designed to be used on stage to better synchronize music among instruments, they generally sound like shit even if you take expensive ones.

They are also very uncomfortable, and meant to be very secured in your ear for short duration, for longer sessions they will hurt your ears. The cables are also not made from rubber/silicone typically harder plastic so any touch will transmit to your ear. These are made for work not for leisure.

Finally they are not practical, they have no microphone, they sound worse than cheap apple wired earphones, and those are like $30 and yet sound the best.
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>>108495809
you were stupid not to return them right away, in ear monitors are meant for work on stage not for music listening, they are for instrument synchronization or synchronize voice to instruments, they sound like garbage, they hurt your ears, cables are made from plastic and transmit noise when touched
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>>108498382
All false btw.
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>>108498382
are you a time traveler or just retarded?
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>>108498382
Fox IEM doesn't have this problem.
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>>108498382
That's great and all, but IEM's have long went beyond those niche professional applications like the Shure ones. Nowadays even the cheapo consumer buds that act like ear plugs are by definition IEM's.
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>>108499364
Musicians use KZ all the time. Being an "in ear monitor" is a very low bar.
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i dunno, used these for a couple years, hours a day, 2-3 days a week, 20 odd weeks a year as a tour drummer. and they werent even customs, and never had issue with comfort.
never had issues with microphonics either.
though to be fair, it really was mostly used for backing and click tracks. didnt really 'daily drive' it for casual music listening
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>>108495426
>>108495560
I don't know who to trust.

:c
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>>108499704
it could be both and neither.
turn the volume down, set amp to low gain, get a balanced cable, make sure everything is shielded fine, move the dac farther from your pc
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>>108499704
Unplug the IEM from the dongle. Do you still hear the hiss? There's your answer.
>>108499788
Jm6 pro doesn't have gain settings and balanced output.
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And balanced has higher noise floor anyway.
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>>108466531
It was never a "hobby" to begin with. Just an adult outlet for the same kids that used to collect useless plastic shit like pogs, crazy bones, etc.
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>>108494952
>>108499788
Fucking clankers on my g.
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>>108498382
this is almost all false except for the relative microphonics part
>These are made for work not for leisure
what are you talking about? the consumer iem market is literally orders of magnitude larger than the pro one. just google iem and look at how brands make and market them for kids and gamers etc. and then you go on to name apple iems as if they're not iems? how confused are you
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>>108500976
Wearing cable over the ear reduces the microphonics when compared to cable down and braided cables have less microphonics in general, so that's BS too.



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