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UPS edition

previous: >>108414793

READ THE (temp)WIKI! & help by contributing:
https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Home_server

/hsg/ is about learning and expanding your horizons. Know all about NAS? Learn virtualization. Spun up some VMs? Learn about networking by standing up a OPNsense/PFsense box and configuring some VLANs. There's always more to learn and chances to grow. Think you’re god-tier already? Setup OpenStack and report back.

>What software should I run?
Install Gentoo. Or whatever flavor of *nix is best for the job or most comfy for you. Jellyfin/Emby/Plex to replace Netflix, Nextcloud to replace Googlel, Ampache/Navidrome to replace Spotify, the list goes on. Look at the awesome self-hosted list and ask.

>Why should I have a home server?
De-botnet your life. Learn something new. Serving applications to yourself, your family, and your frens feels good. Put your tech skills to good use for yourself and those close to you. Store their data with proper availability redundancy and backups and serve it back to them with a /comfy/ easy to use interface.

>Links & resources
Cool stuff to host: https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted
https://reddit.com/r/datahoarder
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/wiki/index
https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox/Features
ARM-based SBCs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PGaVu0sPBEy5GgLM8N-CvHB2FESdlfBOdQKqLziJLhQ
Low-power x86 systems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LHvT2fRp7I6Hf18LcSzsNnjp10VI-odvwZpQZKv_NCI
SFF cases https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AddRvGWJ_f4B6UC7_IftDiVudVc8CJ8sxLUqlxVsCz4/
Cheap disks: https://shucks.top/ https://diskprices.com/
PCIE info: https://files.catbox.moe/id6o0n.pdf
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
>For more SATA ports, use PCIe SAS HBAs in IT mode
WiFi fixing: pastebin.com/raw/vXJ2PZxn
Cockpit is nice for remote administration

Remember:
RAID protects you from DOWNTIME
BACKUPS protect you from DATA LOSS
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>>108465124
>firebox 500 series
That's an old image. We were using them as foot warmers when I worked there. You could install pfsense on them though.
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I with futa elves were real.
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source of OP's image?
it's for a friend
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Is containerization used for security or is it mostly to simplify deployment?
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>>108465340
catbox
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is this why RAM is expensive?
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>>108465374
thank
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Do you merge your drives into one mass volume or leave them separate (disk1, disk2, disk3...)?
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>>108465515
use case for merging?
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>>108465606
Probably none.
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>>108465515
if you're not gonna put them in some kind of RAID, just keep them separate.
I have 3 such drives for offline storage of less important data (not on my main or backup pool). For whatever data i need i just grab the right drive, merging i assume would just spread the data across all of them and make it really hard to manage.
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>>108465377
idgi. what's the point?
why are they throwing (I'm assuming decommissioned) servers?
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>>108465992
anon, this is slop
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>>108465992
>>108466001
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdSooBpYRbg
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>>108465368
the latter
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Is spin down still a significant factor in hdd failure with modern drives? I'm flipflopping on whether I want to keep using snapraid+mergerfs or switch to ZFS
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>>108466164
I can't imagine it's changed. Do you not have services that are going to be accessing the pool all the time anyways?
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>>108466417
I think they spin up and down at least a few times per day. I keep all of my services configs/logs/dbs on SSDs outside of the pool so it's not constantly being accessed just to passively keep the services running.
My primary concern is minimizing the amount of money I'm spending on replacement drives until prices drop, but I don't know if I'm overthinking this issue too much.
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>>108465707
I just have a small lab with a DAS with around 8TB storage set up with SnapRaid (Jellyfin / Nextcloud) and a second DAS with a couple of 2TB drives to back up nextcloud and a few other things using rsync. I just didn't know if there was any benefit or purpose to merging.
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>>108466527
Okay I think I've decided that I'm going with ZFS. It just makes more sense to me especially with RAIDZ expansion and this AnyRAID thing coming out eventually.
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Why is there an IP from the US, Ohio attempting to send SSH requests to my webserver in Europe?
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>>108456497
NAS rebuild attempt #2
gee I wonder which shipping I should get

>>108467308
script kiddie?
if you have a dynamic DNS pointing to it and post the URL anywhere, I'd expect some traffic
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>>108467388
aaand I forgot my pic, duh
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>>108467392
You get to keep the truck with the truck delivery.
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>>108465124
Hello friends, is nixos actually based or is it a meme?
I used it for my desktop but it seemed too complicated for my brain (this was a while ago) i am wondering if i should give it another go in tha server
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>>108468117
it's a meme really, you can achieve the same with say, ansible. Plus, ansible is a widely used tool in enterprise and it will give you actual experience which might help you getting a sysadmin job
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>>108468117
I still don't get the immutable meme. And I don't understand the declarative meme. Is it just that there's one config file for everything?
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>>108468138
I wanted to look into ansible also
Well an alternative isnt a bad thing, just means there is an actual use case for it :)
>>108468146
>immutable
I think the point is predictability and reproducability. No more it works on my machine, and if something breaks its trivial to rollback
>declarative
Like you have a config file for your ENTIRE os, that can be version controlled etc. All of your packages, services, even filesystem are defined in plaintext

Idk it sounds goated on paper, but a lot of things do, i am wondering if people had experience with it
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>>108468208
I guess it sounds useful, but I have my systems templated (at least now I do) and whenever I want a new vm I just clone the template. If something breaks I just restore from a snapshot. I guess if I could have that sort of thing for proxmox that would be nice, but it's only a handfull of configuration files as it is.
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>>108468117
for me nixos is much more at home running on a server than as a desktop
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>>108465124
Is that ubi UPS in the pic actually worth it, or should I just stick with a simple one (with usb monitoring)
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>>108468117
its fine. what is really so complicated about it? once you've done your initial config you rarely touch the config files. also, gemini is decent at writing flakes.
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>>108468542
I thought they changed how it worked and got rid of flakes.
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>>108468582
don't think so unless i missed the big news. i don't track it day-to-day. i just upgrade my stuff when new releases happen and change configs as needed. flakes aren't standardized and the trannies don't like them, but it would be hard to kill them entirely.
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post server scarecrow
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>>108468458
Headless Debian is all you'll ever need onba server
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>>108469150
Just use Proxmox.
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>>108465124
Is there a calendar client for Windows 10 and/or Android that has reminder notifications WITH images?

I have a Baikal server with a CalDAV calendar .ics that I exported. I intend to fill it with the data from here https://touhoucalendar.github.io/, where the days would have an all-day event whenever it coincides with a given date.
For instance on 9th September the title would be "Cirno Day", with an image of Cirno in the description as well as the explanation included on the site. I know the site doesn't have images but since I'm adding all the days manually so I'll add the image anyway.

The key requirement is having the image shown in the notification itself and (if possible) a bit of the description, which may be cut off with ellipses.
>Thunderbird
In the calendar tab you can't even add an image to an event.
>Outlook
It's possible to add images to calendar events' descriptions, but the reminder notification itself doesn't have them displayed unless I open the meeting item itself, the whole process of which is just clunky and is specifically what I'm trying to avoid.
>Discord / Twitter
They have a bot which announces dates at https://x.com/TouhouCalendar, same goes to Discord bot, but I don't use either of these.
>Windows Notification Center
Integrated with the old W10 Mail app which is depreciated, not to mention that adding images is not possible.

Now worst case for me is that I drop the idea of "show Image in the notification itself" and just keep the image in the description, but please let me know if it's somehow possible.
I'm hoping for solutions for both Windows 10 and Android. Thunderbird had potential, but kind of disappointing that you can't add images at all.
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Heya server anons. Newfag here. Does having qBittorrent constantly seed like a couple hundred torrents at a time (not all active at all times, maybe 20-30% at a given time), increase drive wear?
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>>108468512
good for other ubiiuqtui devices integration i guess
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Elves

https://files.catbox.moe/npzahq.png
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>>108465124
>i226-V NICs are bad for servers
Why?
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>>108470515
The real issues (why people complain)

1. Intermittent disconnects
Widely reported: random link drops lasting a few seconds
Shows up as “link down” events in logs
Fine for browsing, terrible for servers (breaks TCP sessions, VPNs, etc.)

2. Driver / firmware instability
Drivers were especially buggy
Problems include:
packet loss
speed drops (e.g., 2.5G 100M)
adapter resets

3. Possible hardware quirks
Many reports of a design flaw or bad early silicon revisions
Even when “fixed,” some edge cases persist

4. Inheritance from I225-V
The previous model had well-known hardware issues
I226-V improved things, but didn’t completely fix them
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>>108469936
Did you mock that image yourself anon or is it from something? Unfortunately I don't know if there is a solution, but if I ever make a calendar app I'll remember to add that as a feature.
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>>108468948
nice view
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>>108466164
I've been using my WD Golds with spindown and they have 33k hours in them with no errors.
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>>108470538
they work fine on my odroid.
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>>108465992
Because it's fun?
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i use a SBC with two ethernet ports as the connection between my computer and router. the connection starts stuttering when i make a large file transfer. would updating the ethernet control driver fix that?
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>>108470989
how is this even an argument for anything?
do you understand how statistics work beyond 3rd grade math?
most people have/had issues with it. "works on my machine" does not change that.

reminds me of that
>but i did have breakfast!
meme.
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Got this sticker at a nextcloud conference.

The developers of nextcloud are pretty based btw
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>>108471533
>nextcloud conference
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>>108471547
The only thing that smells worse than an indian, a furry convention.
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>>108465124
Is alpine based or cringe?
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>>108471547
Not if it's a business conference
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Any fancy filesystems you use or know of?
Like ffmpegfs and mergerfs?
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>>108472046
the chad JFS
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>>108471406
which sbc?
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>>108472046
>XFS
not really fancy but certainly not widely used, use it a couple of times in my early inux days. It's fine for very large files, nothing that ext4 can't do tho
>reiserfs
I think this is dropped from the kernel, it was meh, supposedly it was the best for dealing with multiple small files, but as XFS, nothing that ext4 can't do
>JFS
I used this because I read it was faster than ext4, and indeed it felt faster on my mechanical hard drive however I had a power loss and the fucking FS made me lose data, never again

protip: look for sshfs and NFS, they're awesome
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>>108472496
How did I know something like this was going to happen?
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>>108465368
Well, it is more secure than running a bunch of services without any isolation at all. Which I've seen people on here do. But VMs are the benchmark.
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>>108472496
>NFS
why people hate this?
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>>108472974
because it can be very tedious to configure as UID and GID must match between client/server for permissions. In theory sounds neat as it follows the UNIX standard but in practice it is not
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>>108473062
Why do you think setting SAMBA is even easier?
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>>108470336
you could at least photoshop a UPS there
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>>108472974
EA and the series has not been good for the past 10+ years
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Is there a way to run tailscale in complete isolation/containerization?
I don't trust them with my OS, but I don't care what's being transmitted.
So my idea is have it in one container and then use another container and connect the two that way I don't compromise my whole system
>inb4 use vpn
1. I'm being cgnat'd
2. vps is wasting money that can be traced back to you
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>>108465124
Is it plausible for the same physical machine to be both the NAS (raid5, jellyfin, pihole, tailscale) and also be directly connected to a 4K TV and act as the HTPC?
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>>108473404
Yes.
It's what I'm already doing.
It's running arch with KDE, and even use it as retro emulation machine
>inb4 arch isn't a server OS
Well, nearly all of /hsg/ use proxmox to run VM hosting containers.
I just use podman to run those directly without wasting resources.
And honestly sometimes doing things directly offer better performance.
Last thread someone recommended ffmpegfs, and it offered better performance than running jellyfin/plex.
What I'm using it for
>sunshine/moonlight for bottles + retroarch(windows games+emulation)
>torrent/download box
>NAS
>general purpose SSH machine (I use the better CPU to make webm to shit post)
>Arr stack + jellyfin (Don't use it as much)
>Pihole
>Windows/MacOS VM
>Chrome (KASMVNC)
I would like to have some thing that offer proxy for cloudflare warp though, and I'd be golden.
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I just encountered a real-world ARP conflict for the first time. DHCP server handed out an IP by chance to my phone which some piece of shit device already had for some reason (it shouldn't have). That was an ordeal. So much time wasted trying to figure out why my phone was randomly timing out and encountering packet loss.

One static assignment in the DHCP server later and everything's fine again. Interestingly I never had a single issue with IPv6 it was only when by chance I looked at the ARP table and noticed the MAC address was different to my phones that I twigged what was happening.

A normie has no chance of figuring that out if this ever happened to them. Their only hope is that randomly rebooting devices makes it go away after correctly rebooting the correct thing.
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>>108473277
yes you can do something like this. i'm failing to envision a scenario where it's fine for all of your network traffic to be compromised but not your os though
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>>108473475
That does sound nice, meaning essentially the cleanest solution is just to have a pod running ZimaOS/TrueNAS?
I've considered using a free Precision 3510 i've been given to do all the tasks besides managing the storage raid, and instead using a desktop (2700X+RTX3080, will be upgraded to 5700X soon enough) with some CachyOS to do both media playback and raid.
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>>108465368
Both
>>108472496
>>XFS
i use XFS because its the default for Rocky Linux installs. I don't like how you cant adjust volume size after the fact so (well you can... sort of... but its a bit hacky and involves having lots of free space somewhere for backups)... just get it right the first time i suppose lol

>>108473277
>Is there a way to run tailscale in complete isolation/containerization?
I think so, and lock it down with cilium and route internally via traefik or something

>>108473404
Yes, why wouldnt it be?

>>108473492
>DHCP server
>handing out IPv6 addresses
Use case?
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>>108473658
>>DHCP server
>>handing out IPv6 addresses
>Use case?
Not everything does SLAAC. The fact that they're randomly generated probably massively reduces the chance of any conflict ever happening though.
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>>108473730
Although, I only see like 4 devices with a DHCPv6 lease. Most seem to not even bother requesting a lease since SLAAC works fine.
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About to try to have remote access for the first time after keeping everything to local to start out
Would headscale on some cheap VPS like hetzner work for syncthing + jellyfin?
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>>108473494
>all of your network traffic to be compromised
How so?
I'm getting into a container and use it to connect to a container.
As far as the tailscale is concerned only these two devices are on the network.
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>>108473594
>the cleanest solution is just to have a pod running ZimaOS/TrueNAS?
In a way, but when was the last time you looked at your server?
>Precision 3510
You can do that as well, I used to run all these from old elitebook 2570p
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>>108474037
>when was the last time you looked at your server
inb4 life story
>ran a server at home about 5 years ago when living with roommates
>ubuntu 18.04 with an LVM storage solution cobbled from 3 different HDD's and minecraft server for roommates
>however on the previous job i was on the road at random between 1 to 4 days a week
>only used desktop on weekends
>now office job and move into an apartment with space for everything i need
Now with a decent work-life balance and also the ability pilfer useful stuff from the company scrap pile (ram, drives, somehow a working 3080) i can cobble together a server for free.
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Is there a limit/way to tell what capacity drives my old HP server can support? Thinking of upgrading from my 2x2TB to 2x8TB for my birthday but don't want to buy something I can't use. Is it dictated by the motherboard or literally if it has a sata connection then the highest capacity you can find.
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>>108474214
I think 32bit systems are limited, but anything vaguely modern shouldn't have any cap.
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>>108469936
search through f-droid on android, calendar apps make up like 70% of f-droid's app store.
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>>108473277
I feel like I'm missing something because yes you can run it in docker and yes you can run other containers through it's network and that's exactly what I do with all my servers. I just write up a compose. Have to open the ports you need for the other containers IN the tailscale container's arguments section but yeah, ezpz.
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>>108474355
Care to share?
What are you missing?
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>>108472479
orange pi 5 pro. it has two 2.5 gig ports
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My NAS has been running stable for a long time, but videos are becoming too much to handle for my outdated tablet (which humorously used to be top of the line way back when). I want to set up plex, but the location of my hardware is such that I don't have an easy time getting it to the internet. Using freenas/truenas, would it be advisable to start a virtual machine so that I can throw in an old GPU to help plex chug along on higher definition videos? Or should I just bite the bullet and drag some wires and stick with the regular plex they threw together for freenas/truenas?
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>>108474578
wait, it's "plus" not "pro"
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Reminder to run bufferbloat tests and then follow the opnsense guide https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/shaper_bufferbloat.html
A friend of mine pointed this issue out as he noticed he had hitching on certain websites (especially anything that buffers, like youtube). He had a D on bufferbloat tests and using shapers/pipes got him into A territory.
I ran the same and found I was in C territory, which explained the hitching I sometimes experienced. Following the procedures got me into an A.
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>>108465124
man i have tried to edit out the server and white thing using klein and it just keeps putting in extra legs. ai is a bust, bubble burst when
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>build a new NAS with some drives I upgraded from on a different NAS that have been sitting
>turn it on
>seeing errors
>smartctl says drive has 150,000 uncorrectable sectors
Fuck drives are expensive
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>>108474692
dd it
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>giving matter/thread a try with home assistant, govee bulbs arrive in the mail this morning
>grapheneos hides wifi permissions home assistant needs to share wifi code to bulb
>govee app requires account with email, phone, dob, bluetooth access, camera/mic access, nearby devices and remote wifi configuring permissions to update bulb before it can connect
>direct connect with bluetooth fails immediately for """"security""""" reasons
>amazon.com -> orders -> return item
>screw in esphome bulb
>enter wifi creds in bulb access point portal
>auto discovered with home assistant
How is everyone ok with giving everything but the kitchen sink in exchange for a QR code? It's not even that much more convenient than typing in your wifi password once. I'm never touching this matter bridge bullshit ever again.
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>>108465992
lift and shift
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Is it still worth it to buy a UPS for my NAS if it's gonna be in a separate room from my modem/router so if the power goes out, any active transfers over my home network will be interrupted anyways since the network won't be covered by the UPS backup power?

Or put another way, is the NAS and the drives having their power suddenly cut out mid transfer worse then having the network go down mid transfer without the NAS/drives powering down?

If not then there's no point in me getting a UPS, right?
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>>108474836
UPS is more about not nuking your data from a power loss
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>>108474836
Why not get UPS for everything?
Got pic related, Even powers my cameras.
And cheap too, like $20
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>>108474836
1. get a UPS
2. Why not also get a UPS for the modem/router so you don't have to wait for that to come back up if the power goes out for only 5 seconds or so
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>>108474852
Is that any more likely then data being lost from the network going down though, is my point/question?

>>108474853
>>108474854
Last time I checked a solid UPS cost like 200USD, I'm not spending 400 on two.
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>>108474836
>Is it still worth it to buy a UPS for my NAS if it's gonna be in a separate room from my modem/router so if the power goes out, any active transfers over my home network will be interrupted anyways
I have a UPS and PDU. The second utility power fails my NAS cleanly shuts down. Internet stays up for 3 hours. Idk wtf you'd do with a NAS and no network, would you mind explaining your thought process for this?
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Lurker here, set up a torrent machine recently, wondering what else I could do with it, as it runs 24/7 anyway.

I would like to contain my hosting to my home network.

Any ideas for what I could do?
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>>108474879
>Last time I checked a solid UPS cost like 200USD, I'm not spending 400 on two.
last time i check(just now) you send like a bitch.
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>>108474879
It can be worse, it can corrupt your filesystem and such.
It's probably not too likely if you only have one computer though. If you have multiple then the chance increases with each added device.
There's also the wear put on the drive from emergency head retracts.
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>>108474889
AdGuardHome (or similar), Forgejo (or gitea, even if you dont code it can be a source control for backups), tailscale
I think those would be the 3 'important' things to put on a first server
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I'm new to this

The clip broke off the LAN/ethernet cable I'm using, and while it obviously still works, it gets disconnected easily

Is there a new tab/clip I can buy to glue onto the end of the cable, or is there a guide on how to attach a new end to the cable entirely?
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>>108474879
>solid UPS cost like 200USD
What?
Even the fancy ones with power strip cost like $60.
My ISP offered one for $10.
I live in Canada.
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>>108474906
Need a crimper and a plug
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Elon Musk is going to put in a UPS in everyone's home someday.
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>>108474901
Recently my retard brain finally figured out how useful a Gitea instance can be for storing configs and stuff
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>>108475143
The fire rises
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>>108474889
freshrss
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Whelp, my 5Us are getting kicked out of the data center since they don’t want to manage colos anymore
Good thing I got a half rack downstairs and found out I can get 3g fiber to my house recently
Anyone know any good solutions for hosting my mail server on a dynamic IP?
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>>108475850
>any good solutions for hosting my mail server on a dynamic IP?
Don't.
If you think about sending mails, double don't.
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i moved my desktop setup to a 50 dollar thinkcentre and offload anything resource intensive to my closet poweredge.

i made it bros
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>>108475900
People often get scared of running a mail server because things like MX, spf and DKIM scare them
It was super easy in my current setup and I’ve had no issues
But yeah, I can’t exactly get RDNS working in my Dynamic IPv4 addr

Perhaps I’m better off paying for a mail forwarding service or hosting a slim one in a cheap VPS, no?
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>>108475907
If you own the domain, you might be able to hack something together with low TTL and hoping you can update records almost instantly if needed.
Only to get cucked by shit hanging in caches.
And that would still not solve sending mails because doing that from residential ranges is a great way to get flagged as spam.

Getting a cheap VPS and setting up VPN and some port forwarding to your home shit would streamline a lot...
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>>108475902
why void
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>>108470558
It's a mockup
>but if I ever make a calendar app I'll remember to add that as a feature.
Cheers and good luck

>>108474322
>search through f-droid on android, calendar apps make up like 70% of f-droid's app store
Come on anon, I'm asking for an app name rather than a generic answer.
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>>108474619
did it generate extra cocks as well?

>>108475907
>things like MX, spf and DKIM scare them
idk about that, personally i'm scared of sinking some time into tweaking that stuff then get blacklisted as soon as i send an email to a gmail account. sounds great for receiving tho
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>>108476230
Void is what arch wanted to be before all the arch shitters and retards shat up the place.
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>>108475902
>my closet poweredge
You ever modded the fans?
Thinking of doing that but I might still hear it a lot
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>>108465124
I've taken a look at the Links and Resources while trying to think of what I'd need to replace all cloud needs for my family.

I've already set up an samba share for everyone and am currently reading up on
>paperless-NGX
>immich
>jellyfin
>chat
>videochat

Am I missing something? What are services you are offering your (wider) family?
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>>108474912
You're talking about actual UPS units, not just power strips/surge protectors?

I was not seeing them that cheap, where are you looking?
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>>108476776
Not him but I upgrade my coolers to 160watt copper cores and that helped a lot. The aluminum ones are garbage.
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>>108473492
>ipv6
many such cases
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>>108474912
>>108474879
>>108474854
>>108474853
>>108476812
Fairly sure he's talking about "mini-UPS", which is sort of like an always-on powerbank.
Powers 5/9/12V devices like modems and routers by directly replacing their power adapter. They're 30/40$ top, usually.

Neat little thing. Last hours too, if you don't connect too many things to it.
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>>108472046
>we are getting married this afternoon
>you're not allowed to say no

and tonight we'll have our wedding night, when we will make love without protection until you become pregnant with my child.

getting pregnant on the wedding night is a sign of both good luck and a long, happy marriage, and for that reason you are not allowed to say no.
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>>108471502
>how is this even an argument for anything?

It's not. It's a statement of a fact, the fact being that despite all the naysayers and statistics masturbators, it still works fine on my machine.
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>>108473170
And ruin the best part kek?

https://files.catbox.moe/m693ki.png
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>>108477186
we both know you havent even tested it properly
otherwise go ahead show me dmesg logs and sockperf iperf netperf pktgen reports, also bufferbloat level
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>>108477276
>cope cope cope
It works as well as I need it to, I don't have to prove anything.
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>>108476944
It just werks, desu. I spent ages troubleshooting the packet loss until I figured out it was a shitty IPv4 ARP conflict happening. I didn't think of that first because why would it be that? That literally never happens. Well, it happened.
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>>108470515
when you buy a dozen cheap chink appliances having i226v nics the chance of all of them having the same mac is around 60% it's a well documented fact

speaking of issues like these >>108473492 first of all check macs, the first thing i would do. they got zero quality control.
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>>108470538
retarded ai post that doesn't even get to dot1q tagging capability
kill yourself
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>>108465124
>try alpine linux
>spend hours trying to setup a simple service because of translating everything into open rc and busybox commands
Did i make a mistake?
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What are peoples setups for self hosting vidya collections?
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>>108478802
>vidya collections
wdym
like, old games?
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>>108478813
ROMs and PC games hosted in a way that makes them easy to download to different devices
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>>108478711
>Translating
Systemd babby
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me and my friends want to pool our money to build a server for LLM/MCP AI shit (just running not training)
one of which earns stupid amounts of money and doesn't mind paying for most of it as long as he doesn't get to mess around building, storing and maintaining it
so that will fall on me

my experience is with mostly decade old garbage in my homelab so that's kinda uncharted territory for me

we are probably gonna start off with 4 intel b70 pros possibly adding more in the future (up to 8)
so my plan to not get too expensive is to use EPYC milan platform, so i will get enough pcie lanes and could use ddr4 rdimm to save some money on ram

does this seem reasonable?
what motherboards do i consider?
as i understand it doesnt matter that its pcie 4 for this use
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>>108478862
Yes ;-;
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>>108478879
>4 intel b70
>for AI
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>>108479097
why not
that's literally what it's positioned as
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How can I set a tailscale inside a container and connect to it from another container?
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Is there a version of that imag without the server in front of her pussu?
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>>108468948
he eats smr drives.
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>>108479566
>>108474619
files.catbox.moe/xwnhgk.png

>pussy
use case for pussy?
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Does someone here selfhost manga?, I'm probably going to host kavita but I can't find some easy import solution/script.
Do someone knows a good script or maybe some tor bundles of manga with the metadata in it already?
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>>108476804
>paperless-NGX
qrd on this?

i take pics of my receipts and this thing is ocr-indexing them or something?
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>>108480471
Pretty much. But you don't have to photograph them, you can also scan them if you have a scanner.
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>>108479631
10/10 would show my server room and kubernetes containers
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>>108479140
you're still wording this so terribly that I don't know what you actually want to do. For my setup, I run all my services on my server through containers in docker. I also run tailscale the same way. I have one big docker-compose file with all the services and tailscale defined in it. The tailscale container has a network defined inside of it, and I set all the other services to use that network. I open the ports those services need in the tailscale definition. Like this (filebrowser is a random service I run on the server) (you can maybe copy-paste this but you'll have to edit it a bunch for your use case):
filebrowser:
container_name: filebrowser
image: filebrowser/filebrowser:s6
volumes:
- /home/REDACTED/:/srv
- /home/REDACTED/filebrowser/database:/database
- /home/REDACTED/filebrowser/config:/config
environment:
- PUID=1000
- PGID=1000
- TZ=America/New_York
network_mode: service:tailscale
restart: unless-stopped

tailscale:
image: tailscale/tailscale:latest
container_name: tailscale
devices:
- /dev/net/tun:/dev/net/tun
environment:
- TS_AUTHKEY=REDACTED
- TS_EXTRA_ARGS=--reset --advertise-exit-node --advertise-tags=tag:container
- TS_HOSTNAME=urmom3
- TS_STATE_DIR=/var/lib/tailscale
- TS_USERSPACE=false
- PUID=1000
- PGID=1000
- TZ=America/New_York
volumes:
- /home/REDACTED/tailscale/state:/var/lib/tailscale
- /dev/net/tun:/dev/net/tun
networks:
- net
ports:
# These ports are in format <host-port>:<container-port>
- 127.0.0.1:8085:8085 # filebrowser webui
- 41641:41641 # ts
#- REST REDACTED
cap_add:
- NET_ADMIN
- SYS_MODULE
sysctls:
- net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
- net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1
- net.ipv4.conf.all.src_valid_mark=1
restart: unless-stopped

networks:
net:
attachable: true
driver: bridge
driver_opts:
# required for tailscale to function properly
com.docker.network.driver.mtu: 1280
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>>108480958
Thanks man, but I think I haven't been clear.
I meant that I don't want to install tailscale on both machines, and instead do so with docker.
And then I'd get inside one container and then connect to the other tailscale container that's on different network.
Please excuse my shitty drawing skills
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I have an FX-8320, Gigabyte 970A-UD3P with 8GB of RAM, but no GPU. Is it worth building a NAS with? Or does it actually consume too much power/heat?
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>>108481032
>Or does it actually consume too much power/heat?
I have a computer with a meagre 8gb RAM and a J5040 CPU and it is fine as a NAS, Emby server and automation web server (mostly webscraping 24/7)

You could get by with much weaker hardware
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>>108481001
ok gotcha yeah you basically just do what I said but on both machines. If you just wanted to access services from one on the other...type the other machine's ts shortname and port number of service into url bar and boom, you're done. If you're trying to access things that are running on the host of either machine (from the other machine), well that's not gonna work, you'll have to install ts on bare metal on at least one for that. Or make some forwarding rules or something.
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>>108476693
>did it generate extra cocks as well?
maybe? hard to tell with the amorphous anatomical blobs everywhere.
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>>108478879
>>108479111
get a maxed out mac studio
profit
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How good is the core i3 10100 / h510 combo for a home server with a low power draw, I run Immich, Jellyfin, Navidrome and Nextcloud.
Previously I used an i5 7500 and it was doing a good job while consuming about 16W at idle, but the motherboard died.
I'll stick to DDR4 and 10th gen is significantly cheaper than any of the newer platforms.
Ryzen is only efficient in laptops/mini PCs without a chipset, so it's out of the question altogether.
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>>108481136
>If you're trying to access things that are running on the host of either machine (from the other machine), well that's not gonna work
Even if I used your docker compose and have the service running on the same network as tailscale container?
Maybe use different stuff like KASMVNC to run webbrowser and such?
I don't trust tailscale with baremetal, but I trust it with the data that go through the connection.
SSH keys can't be broken, can it?
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>>108481860
no yeah if you have the service running in docker and on the tailscale network that will work no problem, like filebrowser in my example. I was just saying if you were running say nginx or something on bare metal of one of the machines, you would need forward rules or something for it to go through tailscale and be reachable to the other machine.
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>>108482214
Thanks my man.
Would it be possible to route traffic?
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>>108465124
ai slop
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my entire home network now consists of a bunch of rpi's, a big ass switch, and my desktop.
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>>108476804
Emails
Vaultwarden
WireGuard VPN for exiting with the same home address. Useful for Netflix, Disney+ password sharing, my normie family loves it.
Calendar sync
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>>108474582
I run plex server through my truenas, and watch it throught he plex client on both my tablet and my computer to stream it.
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>>108480807
>k8s
her cock would go soft instantly, pajeet shitware
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>>108482827
I live upstairs and have my own network upstairs. I do not have easy access downstairs and my PC is in my bedroom. I do not want to keep my PC on while I'm in bed, otherwise I would not be fucking with this and would just tilt my third monitor toward the bed.

Not helping me. I swear to fucking Christ, you fucking morons can't read for shit. If I was ok keeping my powerful desktop on, I wouldn't have this issue. If I was ok using a laptop in bed, I also wouldn't have this issue. I WANT TO FUCKING USE A TABLET IN BED
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>>108483153
>I do not want to keep my PC on while I'm in bed,
thats a you problem
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>>108481032
My old setup had that mobo with a 6300, it burned 100w idling and 200+ when stressed. It also had 12 drives, but they were impressively low power and only accounted for like 2w per drive under load, so only about 25w.
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Worth it to go from a 5600x to 5700g? Really only considering it for the igpu for jellyfin to be able to transcode in rare occasions (and also make trickplay not take 6 months to finish) and because it's $200 on scamazon right now. I know it's nerfed to gen3 and has fewer lanes but neither are much concern in my setup. I would just get a $50 nvenc pos but I don't want to have to fuck around with drivers once they get (or already have been) obsoleted and dropped.
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>>108483524
Why not a 5500g or gt? honestly I'm not sure what all of these late cycle 5000 series chips are about, but they should be cheaper.
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>>108481477
yea will work

but if i were you i would try to get a H610M board and a used 12400 from ebay, still eficient and you could run a lot more shit on it and you save your ram too, you will thank yourself later
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I am retarded, is there any simple way to set up a home server that serves an mp4 file to a web address
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>>108483524
>Worth it to go from a 5600x to 5700g? Really only considering it for the igpu for jellyfin to be able to transcode in rare occasions
AMD transcoding sucks, go nvidia or intel
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>>108485052
yes
>install debian
>install nginx or apache
>enable indexing
>move your mp4 to your web folder
profit
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>>108483524
Wouldn't it be easier and perhaps even cheaper to just get a dedicated dGPU? 1650/1660 or the 3050 low profile which iirc can be gotten for like 200 burgershekels or less.
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>>108485052
Very simple way would be python http server module.
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Any good 2.5G PoE switches?
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>>108483734
Because they are currently not cheap enough on their own or vs a 5700g to consider as a sidegrade

>>108485072
Damn

>>108485194
>I would just get a $50 nvenc pos but I don't want to have to fuck around with drivers once they get (or already have been) obsoleted and dropped.
Also the power draw, a 3050 apparently pulls almost 50w at idle which is ridiculous
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>>108485471
I thought Njeetia fixed the weird power draw on some 3050s, especially when compared to other devices
>7900XT in main rig pulls 20 idle and 35W while running a yt vid+browsing in wangblows
>1070ti i gave a way a year ago had sub 10W idle power draw
>several quadro cards we support at work (P1000, A600, T400) that all draw an average of 10W
The only two cards i had that had an oddly high power draw were a GTX970 and RX580 which both peaked at like 35W
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>>108485788
There are a handful of leddit threads from only a couple of months ago with OPs asking about high idle draw, and a lot of the respondents telling him that it's normal
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I've read that if you split your igpu to pass through to multiple VMs at once, you end up paying a huge performance/efficiency penalty.
Is this also true if you're just passing through to one VM?
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I might be preaching to the choir, but while I enjoy building homelabs and servers; When it comes to "gaming pc" I rather just buy a handheld/mini pc/nuc and be done. I'm not an enthusiast and I feel like the pc gaming industry is very cancerous to deal with (unoptimized titles, gay lights, jewvidia) and it's only bearable thanks to valve's efforts. Also can't wait for the steam machine.
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>>108467308
Grandma's PC in Cincinnati is in a botnet
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>>108486035
To be honest I use a lot of prebuilts and salvaged junk in my servers that I would never consider putting into my main/gaming PC.
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>>108486035
Building dosktops has gotten boring fast. Games don't benefit from anything but a faster cpu, and a bigger gpu. So you just get the best version of those you can afford, as much ram as is considered correct at the time, and whatever else you feel like. It's very one dimentional.
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>>108486045
i will hack her pc and steal her nudes
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>>108482364
This actually sounds funny, saving power using the pi's then runing some bigass 70W switch
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Serious question. What's the point of SnapRaid if you're already backing everything up that's on your server main drives?
For example
>DAS 1 = 4 8TB drives for data, media etc
>DAS 2 = 2 10 TB drives for backing up everything that's on DAS 1
In that case would SnapRaid just be using up a bay that could be used for more storage?
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>>108489116
where are you backing up DAS2
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>>108489126
Same server.
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>>108489164
snapraid essentially is a program that does what you're already doing but in a clean, automated way. the 10tb backup drives would be called parity drives in snapraid.
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>>108489116
It’s for peace of mind. If any bit in your CP file suddenly flips from 1 to 0 or vice versa, the video quality can become shit, or the file might become unreadable or corrupted from the dreaded "bitrot". snapraid can fix all that issue.
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>>108489297
Snapraid has checksumming?
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>>108479631
klein can't do female genitalia at all.
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>>108489116
snapraid is trash.
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>>108489433
you know its polite if you can give some of your recommendation or opinion on why it's trash
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>>108489496
well, you can use mdraid or zfs to do RAID. that's my recommendation.
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>>108489507
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>>108489659
they really didn't do a very good job of representing the pros of the other options, especially zfs
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>>108489659
Suspicious lack of a performance field. Also the inclusion of the "Stable Since" field is clearly just to shit on btrfs. Based, it made me snigger.
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>>108489674
To be fair aside from performance it covers most of what a normie would care about. If you're the kind of person who would care about zfs's robust management features you'll probably do a bit more research.
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>>108489659
>spookyhash
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Can I use an android phone as private server?
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>>108491300
good luck running useful services on that locked down os
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Hello sexy ladyboys. So... I have 3 disks. 2 disks are 2TB one disk is 4TB. I'm using the 2TB disks for storage and the 4TB disk for cold storage backups with rsync. I noticed recently that one of the 2TB disks corrupts data and I have lost some files because I was taking backing from a corrupted disk. The question is: how I prevent this in the future? What would be a better setup? I'm also planning to increase my storage in the near future. What would be a simple and reliable setup for my situation?
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>my setup
Synology NAS w/HDDs (SMB over Tailscale + hosting nginx server) -> ISP router -> NSA -> Internet
>idea one
Synology NAS w/HDDs and one SSD (SMB over Tailscale + hosting nginx server off the SSD) -> Protectli router running *BSD -> ISP router as AP -> NSA -> Cloudflare tunnel -> Internet
>idea two
Synology NAS w/HDDs (SMB over Tailscale) -> Protectli router running *BSD -> ISP router as AP -> NSA -> Cloudflare tunnel -> Internet
Intel N100 chink shit (hosting nginx server)----^

Give it to my straight, /g/, how retarded am I?
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I'm mad at all gpu vendors for not enabling sr-iov on consumer gpus
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>>108492005
raid 5, btrfs or zfs and ecc
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>>108492246
https://gitlab.com/polloloco/vgpu-proxmox
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>>108492346
>hack
>nvidia only
>no ampere or newer
yeah, no
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anyone use multiple servers for clustering here?
and what do you use it for?
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>>108493721
Does Proxmox count?
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>>108493818
hmm, not really because clustering implies distinct hardware nodes.
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>>108493826
>distinct hardware nodes.
Yes, Proxmox does that.
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>>108493939
Oh didn't realize it could do that.
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>>108493939
very gay names
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>>108493939
Ted Cruz the zodiac killer
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Any anons have experience with Dell or Toshiba drives? I routinely see them cheaper but I guess there's a reason. Do I just pay the premium for for Seagate and WD?
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>>108494446
toshiba drives are fine. historically it's a bad idea to have a favorite drive brand. you need to look at them at the model level. a company can make good drives of one size and shit drives of another size.
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>>108494446
Very limited experience.
A couple of consoomer drives: one got phased out (low capacity) into my "just in case" pile, one still in use - it just werks I guess.
A bunch of enterprise 16 TB Lenovo/Toshiba drives: working fine for now but I haven't had them for very long yet. Specs in the datasheet are similar to WD drives. Acoustics and vibrations are much better than 16 TB WDs. That's pretty much it.
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>>108479140
two ways:

Run a tailscale sidecar container next to your application service container. If you're using docker compose, you can set up two containers such that they share a private network. Your tailscale container handles all the networking, and your application container just transparently uses it.

Example: https://github.com/tailscale-dev/ScaleTail/blob/main/templates/service-template/compose.yaml

This is what I personally do with my services and it works pretty well.

Another option is to run tailscale directly within the container. To do this you have to use the userspace networking mode (ref: https://tailscale.com/docs/concepts/userspace-networking ). This is pretty finnicky and you have to manage the tailscale daemon process. Also, you have to make outbound connections by routing it through a local SOCKS/HTTP proxy that tailscale provides, it won't "just werk" for all networking automatically. That's just a restriction of userspace networking that you have to live with.

I would generally not recommend doing the userspace networking method if you don't have to. I do it sometimes when I'm working with stuff like cloud gpu services where all they give you is a container, which I want to connect to my tailnet, but its a massive pain in the ass and shit is always breaking in weird ways with it.
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>>108479140
What's the use-case for that? Why would you not just make a separate docker network and join both containers to it?
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>>108479140
>>108494785
Tailscale is for homosexuals. Wireguard is what straight white pussy enjoying men use.
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>make server for friends and family
>make them different users
>make myself and admin account and a regular user account
>keep using the non-sudoer account
>forgot the admin password and can't ssh into the server

What now, guys? Am fucking retarded.
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>>108494928
You can run Wireguard go (the userspace implementation of Wireguard) in a container too if you want. I just don't get why they'd want to do that for two containers sitting on the same box outside of some sort of simulation or experiment, etc.
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>>108495026
it happens, just reboot into a live cd, chroot and change password, unless you encrypted the partition and also lost the password
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What's the best openwrt router I should get for less100 bucks?
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>>108496826
TP-Link Archer AX23
I have this one, it's good
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>>108496826
any router is free if you just walk out of the store without paying.
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>>108496840
Thank you, this one looks fine but I would need to get a V1 apparently.
https://openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer_ax23_v1
>>108496846
Wise words but I live in the countryside and there is no stores selling routers around.
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>>108496865
yes, and I was actually about to post the v1 hah, see
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>>108496893
I was going to order this :
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09DQ3RV16
But I have no idea which version this is.
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>>108496922
return it if it isn't v1, unless you're in a shit world country (like i am)
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>>108496942
>return it if it isn't v1
This could go for a long time before I actually get a correct one.
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>>108496826
one of the flint routers
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>>108496826
go check the supported hardware list. the easy choice is flint2. cudy has some ok options. there's a xiaomi option.
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>>108467392
update: IT'S ALIVE
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>>108496993
cable management was a bit of a pain in the ass to be honest
on the plus side this case is almost completely silent compared to my old dell server, which sounded like a cement mixer
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>>108497007
>Define 7
based
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>>108497007
I wrapped the extra power cables in a twist tie and tucked them in right next to the PSU, and also put the HDD cage back in place near the fans to make sure none of the cables touched the fan blades, but didn't take a photo, and I'm too lazy to open it back up just for that
this plastic cover over the bottom section is held in with two plastic tabs on the sides which I'm certain will eventually get brittle and snap off, but oh well
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>>108496979
>>108496986
aren't they around 100-150$ ?
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>>108497017
CPU side
I also tucked the little cardboard box with extra screws and stuff in the HDD cage and stuck the multibracket on the top above the HDDs. I don't think I'll ever use it but I have a bad habit of losing excess case pieces. (again forgot to photo that)
reminds me I forgot to stash the PCIe slot covers inside too, fug.
case came with 3x 140mm 1k RPM fractal fans, stuck them all up front and put a 1200RPM Noctua Redux 140mm in the rear.
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>>108497032
>>108497017
Looks like a mix of my two antec cases.
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>>108497028
i remember the 1 being under $100 but maybe prices have changed
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>>108494446
Dell doesn't make their own drives, they are more than likely seagates from what I've seen when searching myself. Toshi is good shit in my experience. I have 24x4tb old drives I got used that have like 40k hours and are issue free for the year or so I've had them. I also have a probably 15 year old 1tb toshiba drive that I don't use often anymore but has been literally around the world with me and also is still running flawlessly.
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>>108497007
nice
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>>108497032
im jealous of all that storage
i want to get some 8TB HDDs when they come down in price. I also have 4 unused spots in a 2.5in hot swap chassis, currently im only running two 1TB SSDs in RAID1
I built this just in time to get 128GB of server ram for cheap and regretting not getting the rest to fill up all the slots
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>>108500118
why are you jealous of something you clearly don't need?
also, 4TB 3.5" SAS are dirt cheap
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>>108500160
>clearly don't need?
How is it clear that i dont need it? I think i do
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>>108500173
I'm basing that assumption on the fact you're currently surviving on just 1TB.
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>>108500188
My current NAS is an HP slim shitbox with only a single 8TB HDD
Its only 30% full but its not in RAID so if it dies i'd lose everything. I'd like to have more storage on this new server for snapshots and backups
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>>108496826
An x86 router you built yourself with whatever parts you have lying around and no WiFi and then just get any off-the-shelf access point and connect it to your switch.



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