Is that people collectively forgot and then rediscovered that all of this shit was born out of military surveillance and behavioral control efforts. Literally everything is based on early ARPA efforts to basically catalog, monitor, study, predict, direct human behavior. Initially communists, and as soon as was feasible, citizens.What is more striking is that in the time period that big advances were being made, the general perception of computers was exactly what I've just stated. In short: everyone already knew that the military was using computers to spy on you. There was protests about it. College students were bombing computer labs.Compare that to today where people protest the LLM "ai" slop, not on the basis of the shit it will enable to be done to them, but on the basis of the creature comforts it takes b away from them.The same crowd that was branding CIA drugging experiments as the cool thing to do, like Ken Kesey and Stewart Brand, were important in rebranding computers as somehow counter cultural.Palantir is basically the near realization of a vision established in the 60s. How did people forget this? Will they forget again?
>>108472852They will not forget again because they will be dead. The goal is elimination of 90% of humans since they are worthless and contribute nothing of value to the economy.
>>108472852You're a complete fucking imbecile. Go foam at the mouth somewhere else, you dumb yokel fuck.
Vietnam was the test bed for using computer technology to map social networks and kill anyone that the computer decided was acting out of line. Like anything else the government does to people overseas, it comes home eventually.
schizo thread, there is nobody interested in monitoring you
>>108472937>nobody interested in monitoring youNTA, but currently, it's way easier to monitor everyone. You'd actually need someone very interested in not monitoring you to stay out of it.
>>108472952proof???
>>108472958I made it up.
>>108472952Pathetically, they dont need to monitor everyone as the average person is so chemically dependent and frankly retarded that they simply put them in retard loops rather than individually tracking them.Most people are so retarded that a simple for loop can wrangle their entire destiny.
>>108472870>he believes its about "the economy"
>>108472852>Military and surveillance That's not entirely accurate, however yes once the realization of how well computers are at collecting, organizing and sharing data, the gov then decided to fund the tech they knew they could use to rekt the populations freedoms
>>108472992This is completely false. The technology was developed by the military for the express purpose of monitoring communist insurgents in Southeast Asia. It was not an emergent behavior, it was the express goal. The funding came first.
>>108472984>ZoomersYea. When they first started appearing in my office, I realized they were the most compliant retards I've ever seen.Making accounts for all their SaaS garbage and volunteering their info every chance they get.The they plug into their shitty socials to see what they're supposed to be "protesting" next.
>>108472852>no referencesschiiiiiiizo
>>108473007>Puters were invented during the namOk, let's start over, what tech specifically are you wanting to talk about, lad?
>>108473038I'm talking about ARPAnet and modern technology ie everything is a terminal to a database that the average consumer unwittingly is feeding nonstop psychological profiling data. That said, you will be hard pressed not to find the military involved in most things that predate ARPA cookups, particularly in cases where the computers were applied practically. That said, you come off like a pedant ackshully faggot so I expect to you find some exception to attempt to invalidate the largely true thesis that modern computers are rooted in military surveillance applications.
Basically, our society is an analogue computer, and in order to automatically, through technological means, compute and manipulate the various aspects of it, you need to digitize that information, which requires a digital computer. It's just a big feedback loop. The very iterative process of computers improving over time is part of the vast interconnected networks of naturally occurring cybernetic systems that comprise a society.
>>108472852>s that people collectively forgot and then rediscovered that all of this shit was born out of military surveillance and behavioral control efforts.No it was not. Babbage had no concept of that. Neither was IP it was a nuclear attack resilent switching. Clive Sinclair did not make a home computer with no network connection for mass surveliance and neither did bill gates produce DOD for that purpose. The primarily military focus in that era was using computers to caluclate ballistic tables. Only IBM working with the NAzis were early users of 'amass surveliance' (cencus tabulation)You are a spastic.
>>108473221Again, retarded and demonstrably false. You're picking consumer applications built literal decades after the military foundation was established.>IP was a nuclear thingamajigTCP/IP was invented to link the then disparate ARPAnet instances together
compukter was invented to crack/compute Enigma codes, initially by 2 poland crypto-tards, then englishmen put it in the mainstream, then US big papa boosted.thats the primal history of compukters. military or government funding came with the necessity, it reacted to propositions.
>>108473218Once computers, as a technology and science, were introduced to society, the otcomes were inevitable, and the military are the only institution who looks at things this way, and are therefore the only ones who would, and should, have been entrusted with determining it's implementation in society. Not because of any moral reason, but totally for reasons of intelligence and capability. Nobody else has the privilege of being prepared.
>>108472984Another who understands it's all loops.
Platonist technae.
>>108473256I concur that technological progress is inevitable and therefore moralizing it either for/against is for retards. I disagree with your thesis that the military is imbued with some kind of divine right. They simply had the funds. Much of the work was done by academics who were in some cases not aware. Though I suspect thats a post fix for their later shame. Norbert Wiener, who I'd suspect you're familiar with given your usage of the archaic term cybernetics, is a good example of someone like this. His ideas were the philosophical backbone of modern computing and in his lifetime, after his contributions, was considered a subversive by the government for his views which essentially predicted the current state of things. He was also not unique in this and it was obvious to the thinkers and activists of the day how things would progress.God level technology is inevitable for certain.
It’s funny how /g/ just feels like a browner version of /x/ these days.
>>108473439just /g/? you can't look at /k/ nowadays without someone trying to flex something about china or iran.
>>108472878>>108473439It's amazing that the Intel agencies still pay agents to post here despite the miniscule level of user traffic 4chan (and particularly this board) receives these days.
>>108472852I understand your frustration.
>>108473561It's amazing how they're paying literal glavset bots to try to get people to be afraid of computers so they can continue their retarded hoarding and AI grift. It's also remarkable, the kind of imbeciles they hire for this task.
>>108472852Go post your fanfiction on /lit/, they could use the fresh blood
>>108473237you're a nut
>>108472852you surely remember people used to have newspaper subscriptions and land line phones
