>junior .NET developer with 2 years corpo experience, currently trying to get a degree>unemployed for over 2 years nowBeing unemployed is killing me guys, I literally cant stop thinking about suicide this month, like I had such thoughts before for few days, had a plan and all but managed to keep coping and trying but I feel like I've reached my limit. I literally don't see a way out, it killed my self esteem, my own trust in my abilities, my interest in coding.I've send hundreds of different resumes/CVs over the last 2 years and I get nothing but rejections. I feel like I'm in this fucked up spot where they think I'm too experienced for intern/junior dev but not enough for mid/regular and they just reject me everywhere. This bigger and bigger gap since last employment is also a problem and I know its an instant red flag for these HR bitches. All this news slop about AI taking jobs or another mass layoffs is only making everything worse.I'm literally desperate enough to ask for help here. What can I do to fix this situation, what can I quickly learn to really get a job that actually has some future in IT, I cant do anything else, no other skills. Anything to escape this hell I'm in right now. I really feel like I've lost my life.
>>108474017Hey man I have been there, here is what worked for me... my father asked his friend who is a CEO to give me a cushy job as Project Manager, try it.
>>108474017> I feel like I'm in this fucked up spot where they think I'm too experienced for intern/junior dev but not enough for mid/regular and they just reject me everywhereNah that's retarded. They reject me everywhere too and I have 0 years of professional experience. You're probably in a better spot that many currently in the field.
>>108474089Not really judging by my results... I'm also over 30 so time isn't playing to my advantage
>>108474017Realistically there is no easy solution for your situation.Think about it.If you were looking for an employee you can either hire a no degree >30 yo guy with only 2 years of experience (ewww, weird, genetic dead end, gives recruiters the ick), or you can hire a normal guy in his early 20s who is much more likely to be normal and not have mental illnesses.The only way I can think to go about it is spending all your free time using AI to build something cool and hope it blows up (use opencode and openrouter free models or $20 codex sub).Do you live in a rich country? Can you leech off social security? How are you maintaining yourself? If so then I would chill out, do projects/learn/get a degree maybe and keep looking for a tech job. Otherwise try to get a warehouse job or stock shelves or drive uber or something.I was unemployed a few years ago, I did some freelancing for pennies and then a highschool friend hooked me up with a job in my mid 20s as an IT consultant (sounds way more impressive than it is, it was a minimum wage job). 5 years later I'm at the same job making 2x minimum wage.It's your choice but I wouldn't kill myself right now, AI is likely to make all intellectual work redundant in a few years so I would hang around just to see how it pans out. There is always time to drop dead in the future, maybe one day you will wish you had more time left. OR try to become a Twitch streamer, once AI makes real jobs obsolete, parasocial/entertainment jobs will be the main ones remaining.
>>108474017>I'm literally desperate enough to ask for help here. What can I do to fix this situation, what can I quickly learn to really get a job that actually has some future in IT, I cant do anything else, no other skills. Anything to escape this hell I'm in right now. I really feel like I've lost my life.Lame as it sounds, pick up a trade. Yes it's hard and will break your body in the long run, but being unemployed/an office worker will break your soul in the long run. You're still young, you can still make it and try to get into a desk job later on. Skills are easy to acquire. Don't give up while there's still hope.-t. terminally stuck at 45, I'll be lucky if I'm still employed/employable in a few years, after that I'm just gonna live on my savings for a few years and check out early.
Just straight out lie on your resume. Say you have been working freelance last 2 years. I worked as a freelancer for 10 years and have only one letter of recommendation because we always sign NDAs.
>>108474017https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7c3wRzUUjs
>>108474017Pro tip: stop frog posting. It does wonders to your mental health.
don't ever suicide. what an absolute wastethere are people who had opportunities to fix your situation, and they didntthere are people who are massively contributing towards the decline of western civilization for their own self interest or to make themselves feel like just peoplethere are people who simply do not deserve to be alivedo ANYTHING but suicide. if you are ready to throw your life away, at least make it count
>.NETmore like .NEET
>>108474351>>108474017It's the most elegant platform to build a product. If you can't use your skills to build some software to sell, then you might be a retarded codemonkey
>>108474017So you've been sitting around at home doing nothing for 2 years?
>>108474017Get a pet. My cats make sure I understand that I have somebody who needs me in this world, even for the smallest reason. If I suddenly went away, their world would completely flipped. As for work, maybe try finding random people who need help until you can find something proper. I help the elderly and poor by keeping their old rigs running. They're always very grateful to see that even a 15 year old machine has that much kick left in it.
there are other jobs besides IT
>>108474017use chatgpt ironically; you will be surprised how common your problem is
>>108474017Say you were freelancing and working on personal projects. For freelancing references get your friends to just lie. For personal projects vibe some slop up on github that looks impressive on the surface. Get better at selling yourself with lies you know you can deliver on or won't get checked rather than telling truth. The world is a grift and if you aren't playing the game you're guaranteed to lose.
>>108474017A company sent me a Codility assessment. I decided to send that email to trash. I refuse to do a test before talking to an hr roastie
>>108474017I have 1.5 YOE and sent out 200 applications over the span of a month and a half, got 10 interviewsTook an offer last week I don't understand what you guys are doing wrong
>>108474521luck, spawn point, areas and companies you're applying to, and actual skill issuesany one of these can make a world of difference
>>108474425Uhhv hmm u gh hmm ugh..
>>108474017Literally me.I have 2 years of .net + another year of experience. Doing a graduate certificate to fill in the unemployment gap.And I have been unemployed for 2 years.So far this year has actually been the best for me in terms of interest.I haven't been able to get into a final interview, let alone an offer.
>>108474034thanks it worked
>>108474017Have you tried being born again as an Indian?
>>108474017>.NETthat's your problem. companies are moving away from standalone desktop windows applications and are using shit like electron or react native. ffs even microsoft themselves are replacing their desktop apps with chromium webview wrappers.
>>108474017stay strong brother, there are no frogs to post in the afterlife. Try other jobs, tech is not the only way to make money
>>108474017don't define yourself by your work and that's a solved issue.i make 6 figures and my job is utterly meaningless and the company produces nothing of value.i don't care as i am not my job.
>>108474273>but being unemployed/an office worker will break your soul in the long runnta but being unemployed is amazing imo.as long as you don't let yourself rot and actualy use the time to do things.
>>108474273Getting into trades should only be a last resort. You only have one body. Once it's fucked up, it's over. Your quality of life drops significantly. Your soul won't be clean either. Lots of shady shit goes on in trades.
>>108474017Is only going to get worse and then you will be forced to fight and die for Israel's lord Baal. You will know the true meaning of suffering in the front lines. Once you die you will be thrown in hell.
>>108474466> Get a parasite that needs constant attention, wastes moneys, and defecates.LMAO
>>108477523he's talking about getting a cat, not a child
Do you have a github? If you can show some steadiness and goal-orientation, that helps (if you can make it past the initial screening).Do you have a LinkedIn or XING (whatever is preferred in $COUNTRY)? It makes you seem normal. (Yes, eww, but this is your livelihood).
>>108477528A cat dies fast and has no chance to become someone better than you.
>>108477566I try to make myself better instead of forcing my child to live my dreams for me.
>>108474017Lie or die.
>>108477573Okay Mr. evolutionary dead end.
>>108474017SAAR, all your beautiful jobs are belong to us!
>>108477583Unlike you, I had sex :^
>>108477595Sex without procreation is an ugly sin.Shame on you.
>>108477607it's about the journey - not the destination, my friend
Fake it til you make it, pad your resume with fake plausible jobs.
>>108474521do you have a github/gitlab or a personal portflio link on your CV? I am a junior and I don't know if I should remove it because of my retarded prjects lmao
>>108474017Just PR a bunch of README changes dumbass
>>108479873very dangerous if they do background checks or something
>>108479931As I said, fake it til you make it. If they do find out you did not work at that place, then it's no different than having shitty employment history - either way you're not getting hired, but at some point you will eventually find a company that will hire you, and then none of the past attempts matter.
>>108477523>LMAOindeed
>>108474017>I literally don't see a way outInstall gentoo
>>108474017>What can I do to fix this situation, what can I quickly learn to really get a job that actually has some future in ITNothing. If you could do it quickly, it wouldn't be a useful credential and give you a leg up against other applicants.>This bigger and bigger gap since last employment is also a problem and I know its an instant red flag for these HR bitches. It's not great, and it won't help by doing what has failed for 2 years.>I cant do anything elseReally sounds like you can't even do "IT" or "coding" too.Normally, 2 years of experience should be worth something, but 2 years of unemployment invalidates this somewhat.You not having a formal education is really putting the nail in the coffin. There are hundreds of thousands of people currently looking for a tech job, hiring has slowed/stalled and a lot of them have degrees. Doesn't hurt that they're a bit younger too.Simply wasting your time won't do you any good. If you want a tech job in the current market, you need more credentials. You and a lot of others are stuck in the early career trap of little experience making you an interactive hire, thus you keep having little experience. To be frank, you got hited when tech firms hired anything with a pulse after the COVID shock was over, and they let you go once they realized that they all overhired. Now you and plenty of other people got a taste of a tech job and think you should stay in the field, longing for the high pay and social status. But you have no real credentials: no degree, no big accomplishment and only a bit of experience. So if you actually want to stay in the field, you'll likely need formal education, that means college in the US. I'm not saying it's impossible without a degree, but I don't fancy your odds without it.I mean, you could have at least gotten an internship or two in the last 2 years. Anything that would at least signal you were doing something besides getting rejections.
>>108474425there is a lot of things to do other than slaving. you should try it
>>108474273>get into a desk job later on. These unironically will not exist in 10years.
>>108480405Then why does OP want to slave so hard instead of continuing to do all those things, I wonder :^)
Accept AI. EMBRACE IT READY FOR FUTURE
>>108479914Nobody checks them anyway. Some senior dev on YouTube ran an experiment where he pretended to be a junior to try to get job offers. He set up a plausible github profile, but nobody checked the profile even once.
Pivot to medicine
Learn to code, sweaty
>>108474017I got a job as a Power Plattform dev/database admin at a small company. Maybe you should also look into getting a dev-adjacent job until the coast is clear.
>>108474273>Lame as it sounds, pick up a trade. Yes it's hard and will break your body in the long run, but being unemployed/an office worker will break your soul in the long runWise words.
>>108474236>drive uber>what is waymo
>>108474017You can always do what I did:Give up on IT, accept a humble job as a data entry clerk. Your IT credentials will make you more attractive to hire.
>>108474017Build something you dumb dumb.If you code then code something that people will use that isn't tied to somebody else giving you a wage.
>>108482091This is the sensible advice.Just follow the herd.
>>108474017Stop procrastinating and relying on others and start building your own thing. There is no other solution.
>>108480177>Formal education>ProgrammingKEK, you're so full of shit. It's amazing.
>>108474017Take Estradiol, buy fem clothes and start an OF account
>>108477607You are posting on an imageboard website founded by a faggot who wanted to share loli hentai. wtf is it with /pol/tards larping as christians on a fundamentally non-christian site?
>>108482091cant even afford to keep a girl around with a data entry clerk job though can you...
>>108487550no retard attractive for EMPLOYABILITYyou esls are mindbroken by women
>>108474017I literally quit my job and have never felt happier. I do some side jobs, though, like fixing chairs or whatever
Look on the upside fren, you have no worldly attachments and are therefore free to do anything you want!
>>108474017your fault for being straight, white, and a male. my advice, chop off your nut sack, start taking hrt, change your name to a female name, paint yourself brown, move to india, and apply for h1b job in the west, and start sucking cock.you'll be hired in an instant.
>>108474017Get a normie job to pay the bills and use your programming skills as a hobby or work on Open source stuff. Maybe gig-jobs for it on the side. Wait out this pajeet-AI apocalypse that is developing. You have to be flexible and hardworking if you are gout survive.
>>108474236This guy gets it
>>108487714Bingo. You need to be willing to work for less and be the current flavor of the month DEI hire. Companies get bonuses and increased investor money for hiring the current DEI favorite.Right now, its trans / homosexual / women / from India.
>>108487760>>108487714
>>108487775Paint your dick brown and move to India, and you'll get hired in an instant in the west.
>>108487782
>>108477566A cat is already better than you in every way.
>>108487782we care about DIVERSITYbut not in our H1Bs
>>108474236This guy is fucking retarded, but the solutions are solid>>108474273>>108487731This I can support. Normiejobs are also much healthier than any junior/middle shit hell of position in today's development. Everyone is faking everything, AI shits on top, endless stupid paradigms and frameworks that are all just "stop writing shit please" and they all don't fucking work because your PM wants this feature today and expect you be the 60000% one-man-team-developer with AI tooling and who cares that result will be one person shizo rambling with hallucinations
>>108474017your trying to compete with a billion jeets and AI bots for 2 years and got nowhere don't listen to anyone telling you to just keep doing that, you're not needed move on and find something else to do. tech is not fun and there's plenty of better things to do out there
>>10847401710+ yr programming and i cook for a living, i wish i could be unemployed
>>108474770>luckLuck is getting 1 interview out of 200 applications. A 5% interview rate is not luck.>spawn pointIrrelevant unless you're literally an African who makes $0.45 a day.All the other things you said are in your control, so I guess you're retarded, lazy, or just suck
>>108474017Ai won bro. You are not required anymore
>>108474017bro just code something people want, lock it behind a patreon paywall , and rake in the money it’s like you people don’t even try you have to have some boomer over you telling you when to wake up, when you are allowed to eat, and when you are allowed to sleep
>>108489175This is an incredible image. Did you make this or do recall where you found this? I suffer from that same behavior. Is it procrastination?
>>108474017Found your own startup. And hang on in there, anon.
