only 2 states of a massive country so far are pushing age verification, yet the the entire foss stack has started to preemptively capitulated and many of the major projects are censoring opposition>"Free as in Freedom"
>>108475680Why the fuck would flatpack need age verification.It's a fucking sandbox. The WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF FLATPACK is for programs to NOT have access to the core system's user information.
>>108475693>Why the fuck would flatpack need age verification.To make sure that the many many flatpak apps on flathub don't get accessed by children. Do you want children accessing flathub apps like* Note Taker* Note Taker* Note Taker* Calculator* Note Taker* Note Taker* Calculator* Calculator* Note Taker* Note Taker* Calculator* Note Taker; or* Calculator?
>>108475693you're gonna have age verification for your apps, DE, display server, terminal.
>>108475693umm achually flatpak is a containerbubblewrap is a snadbox
Don't care. Mint has it so I'm gonna use it.
>>108475680Guess I need a tool to rip that out and repack it.
>>108475680>chuddy chud mychudson, you cannot use X11 as it just is not secure. one app can access the data of all other apps on the pc. >also we will have you use systemD which stores all the data on the PC including your age and Flatpak which will store all the data about yourself and your apps on each app. >and Chuddy, if you do not like it, we will make you make age verifications to use your PC on boot. so you better take the Wayland and fuck off
>>108475680anti-RedHat schizos were right all along :,(
>>108475680Nice link faggot.
why cannot i just enter my own age in the system settings? i mean i know why, but there will be a way to do it and i can finally be 9026 years old. born in 7000 BC.
>>108475680>davidoy vey
>>108475760https://github.com/flatpak/xdg-desktop-portal/pull/1922not interesting other than they locked discussion because people are overwhelming against it
>>108475680Fatpack
>>108475779Thanks. I beg to differ, there's trannies and soi boys to laugh at.
>>108475680This is because major corporations and intelligence agencies have done "soft" or "subversion" takeovers of important open source projects.I'm not saying I have proof, I'm just saying you should read the minutes of org meetings from 2016 when systemd was adopted solely for GUI login by every major linux distro. Read the minutes of meetings where Gentoo adopts new financial management for their donations, then run down the companies doing the hedge fund investing of the donations until you hit a dead end. Read the git issues on controversial features and the reasoning for adopting them. Look at the adoption of codes of conduct in os projects and the people they were actually used against. Make up your own mindsFlatpak...Use a microkernel distro if you're going to be running programs you're so afraid of you need to completely isolate them from the system resouces, until a new whitepaper on microkernel escape is released, then switch to a hypervisor running lightweight distros for every single program, until you realize that the only reason you would need to do this was if you were planning on moving all personal computing to the cloud, and forcing people to rent an operating system from you.
>>108475680Appimages are superior to fatfags anyway. It just works and don't ask me anything.
>>108475680Where are the faggots that were saying "it's just an optional age chud", "apps won't collect that data"? Because it's fucking happening.
>>108475846they are still poisoning the well in every discussion surprising redhat has a lot of bootlickers but a sizable amount of them are probably bots
I don't trust Linux anymore... and I trust everything else significantly less. Flatpaks are bloat anyway.
>>108475680Don't have hope for this life. Pray in the next I can go innawoods and build a cabin.
Lmao glad I avoided this trash.What worries me more are AppImages which are much more widespread. Hope they are not poisoned by this microsoft/pottering trojan too.
>>108475822I've said this multiple times in the past, at the start of my FOSS journey, and I've said it multiple times today in other related threads. I'll say it again now. Open Source might be more secure in that the code is audit-able, but they are as vulnerable as humanly possible to being controlled by MICE.
>>108475776Because A) it will be illegal to self declare as it already is in Brazil for example and B) you will get a cryptographically signed token from a 3rd party that verifies your age so if you try to cheat you will be banned for life and no tokens for you
>>108475865kek
>>108475779I would rather give my id to advertisers than to these freaks. pirated enterprise windows chads stay winning
>>108475994and C) I have decided to not play your game and present someone else's token
>>108475854Make sure to move to a protest distro w/ plaintext logs. Nobody planned this, thought about it, or controlled for any contigencies. No RCE's are gonna come out and molest your computer on Artix or Void that you'll never catch because your logging system is weak and obsolete. Nothing up their sleeves at all. Just go to the shiny convenient alternative that appears to agree with you ideologically, chud. It's not a trap or anyrhing.
>>108476014>see "native Americans" throwing tea into a harbor>WOW! Those Iriquios tribesman must have gotten a really bad batch!Seeing really is believing for some people. Everyone should keep that in mind
>>108475964>understandsThank you!To add to your point, theoretical auditability is not the same as practical auditability.is it really "auditable" if the complexity of a single piece of software exceeds the complexity that a single person can understand, make changes to without the expertise of the author(s)? And that's the isolated, discrete piece of software. What about how it interacts with the other components of a real world system?I see these types of marketing arguments being used everywhere:"here's the data you can check it yourself." without collection methods."it's peer-reviewed" reproduce our financially expensive, highly specialized lab results without our equipment, in your own limited time.
>>108475680Lol good. Fuck the flatties.
>>108475825I don't even like appimages. Don't send me binaries like I'm some sort of illiterate animal. That's impolite, some people even say it's immoral.
>>108475693flathub wants to become an app store. the california law talks about a common age verification api for app stores.
>>108475680lol at that ratio
>>108475693Money. Stop using KDE, stop using Gnome, stop using flatpaks, stop supporting troon distributions, don't pay for anything.
>>108475680Don't mind parental controls, personally. But there's no age verification here. The age would be whatever root wants it to be
>>108475693I don't think that is a point of flatpak, but rather it doesn't have access to files and systems it shouldn't have. It still has knowledge about your user info
>>108475680....aaaand removing flatpak from my system. I only ever used them out of convenience but they offer nothing i can already have with appimages.
>>108475680I think a lot of the FOSS stuff is made by far left individuals.Far left has strong fascist, totalitarian tendencies.Anti-fascism is now a duty of the alternative right.
>>108477045>Endless Network>Matthew Dalio>World Economic ForumFuck sake, these rich assholes can't leave anything untouched, can they? Gotta fuck with everything under the sun until it's sick with their poison.
>>108477015Looks like they are becoming a digital museum instead.
Somebody Minecraft these fucking people>inb4 3edgy5me or some shit
>>108475680>>108475779Christ, these people fold like tissue paper.
>>108475680the linux world is full of class traitors it's disappointing.these retards are building the infrastructures that will be used to enslave them later on and they don't see the issue...it's crazy how fast they bent the knee just because a failed state and a third-world country are requiring this shit
>>108477045what do you use instead of kde or gnome then
>>108475693>he fell for the EEE propaganda
>>108475680>davided mundsonevery fucking time
So are the people adding this stuff to flatpak, systemD, etc all a bunch of israeli glowniggers or what>ohhh but we have to comply with this law that doesn't even existhow the fuck is california going to enforce it? It's an open source code base.
>>108475680That's it! I'm switchin' to Windows!
Funny thing is if Trump was the one doing this law instead of newsome they would all have united to "take a stand against trump" and "protect trans people" and virtue signal about privacy etc.
>>108475927don’t worry anon, soon you’ll have to install the app because the website won’t support everything, just like smartphones
>>108476439NTA, just wanted to add:some FOSS programs are more FOSS than othersdwm (2k sloc) is more open source than GNOME (200+ million sloc)
>>108477736Appimages don't offer sandbox
>>108479021Less features means more FOSSLMAO
>>108477736>keeps using an OS with systemd
>>108475680I hate the one world government
>>108478574KDE and GNOME are desktop environments, a paradigm popularized by Apple and MacroSlopDEs are inherently bad because they are an interface on op of the OS’s interface (e.g. using NetworkManager instead of ifconfig to connect to wifi)In the Unix world, window managers were the default graphical paradigm, until Linux got popular and the MacroSlop refugees started making effort to bring the Windows 95 desktop with themSo the answer is: use a WM you like and learn the OS (preferably a WM not dependent on GTK/Qt or other goyware)
>>108479077Just use a firejail profile>>108479088>implying
>>108479082yes, because the more lines of code, the less auditable it issorry for not explaining in a way 2-digit IQloids could understand
>>108479082sweetie, dwm has more features than gnome :)use case for features anyway?
>>108478574WindowMaker, it auto mounts USBs and has a dockapp for easily connecting to the internet, everything else you need to know is documented on https://www.windowmaker.org/
>>108478091antiX begs to differ
>>108479126Ranjesh, what makes software FOSS is license, not the numbers of LOC
>>108479139You're comparing ultra minimalist wm to a full DE
>>108479139I've actually had a lot of fun playing with DWM the past couple of days.Should compile without any issues on any modern disto, provided you download the development libraries.
>>108479253kde is a full de, gnome is pretty much an ultra minimalist de at this point
>>108479287Yet KDE lacks useful features that GNOME has like: remote desktops, remote stirage integration, parental control, account center
>>108475693because the bill also requires apps to query for the age of the user from the os. >>108475680california is a fat chunk of american gdp and is a tech hub. like it or not, it has a severe influence due to its economic influence. if this would just brazil or some other [thirdie country], nobody would care.
>>108479367Except there's no physical market, and it's not illegal for cali citizens to lie and claim to be from another state (vpn, ect.) and download "non-complying OSes" anyway.
>>108478716Microsoft will ID verify github next.
You fuckers keep going after the orgs. Instead you should go after this davidedmundson guy.The surveillance state runs on volunteers: people who do the implementation work for free, out of genuine conviction, with no paper trail connecting them to the money that wrote the laws.
have we accepted that tech is being systematically killed off or are we still in denial
>>108475680The pr hasn't even been merged and this was a month ago
>>108475680Age verification has no impact on your freedom if you're not required to give your real age. Just get the hell out of commirfornia.
>>108475712>you're gonna have age verification for your apps, DE, display server, terminal.You lack imagination. Soon you will have age verification at the hardware level. A chip similar to TPM2.0 will be mandated and all programs + internet connection will be dependent on a valid and working age verification module.
>>108478716It's almost as if it's a plot to get people arguing over trivialities.
Reminder that everything RedHat touches, you should exile from your life.
>>108482241no problem, you can make your own SBC. Many SBC are already open hardware
>>108482310and not just that, AMD opens up their firmware with OpenSIL rn https://github.com/openSIL/openSIL
>>108475680>the userdb birthDate field means applications won't duplicate age verification steps, they said
>>108475680Age verification is just the beginning. The real objective is ID verification. Age verification is a trojan horse for Digital ID.
>>108475680Projects are largely corporate-sponsored neutral zones so of course they perform changes that make the people they serve happy.
>>108475704Kek
>>108482260Ok, I'll use Ubuntu and Windows now.
>>108480431Thousands and thousands of tech people are working on this shit. Why save something when your own people are stabbing you in the back? Let it burn, let it all burn.
>>108480921>it's just the tip goy
>>108482518The sensible people were chased out and replaced by the mentally ill. While you were distracted, the corpos were plotting this.
>>108475704
>>108475704What about a Note-taking calculator? Make it one whole thing and instead of separate?
This is solved by not giving root or su...
>>108475776Then you’ll be tge only nigga born in 7000 BCE and tracked like a unicorn accordingly.
>>108482576You're asking too much for an openslop app.
>>108482576Emacs exists.
>>108475693retard bongs subverting the world (while loving children as is the bri'ish way).did you hear that in bongland since few days ago you cant use your iPhone sōytech without age verification?also, bongoloid gubmint has (or is introducing the ability) to shut down (yes you read that well shut down as in shut it down) any smartphone sōytech in case of theft (and totally nothing else).such is life in brave new world and this new normal.>30 Mar 2026>https://news.slashdot.org/story/26/03/28/2254256/apple-now-requires-device-level-age-verification-in-the-uk-could-the-us-be-next?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feedApple unveiled new device-level age restrictions in the UK on Wednesday. "After downloading a new update, users will now have to confirm that they are 18 or older to access unrestricted features," reports Gizmodo. "Users will be able to confirm their age with a credit card or by scanning an ID.">https://reclaimthenet.org/apple-uk-age-verification-chaosApple’s iOS 26.4 age verification system is failing UK (Ultimate Karens) users who don’t have a credit card or photocard driving license, leaving them with no way to prove they’re adults on devices they’ve owned for years.The system arrived without warning, without explanation, and without any apparent consideration for the people who don’t fit Apple’s narrow assumptions about what a British adult looks like.
>>108482221AGAIN: MICROSOFT WILL LOCK DOWN GITHUB THE SAME WAY GOOGLE IS SCREWING THEIR PLAY STORE.THEY ARE FINALLY SCREWING FOSS DEVELOPMENT.
>>108475680This is how the White man is rewarded for tolerating jews, women, faggots, trannies, blacks, and browns.
>>108482772UK government has suddenly silenced and controlled commutation and potential for organised opposition. Imagine this was the Iranian government and they use it to identify and round up tens of thousands of protesters for execution. This is the UK now.
That woman is more worried about herself than what implementing surveillance at that level will cause. Doesn't matter to her that this goes against Linux's freedom philosophy. She just wants this thing so she doesn't have to think of a solution for her private shit.Can't believe we are at a timeline where a major player in the FOSS universe is capitulating to mass surveillance under the pretext that it would be worse if they didn't. Fucking kill me already.
>>108475680>>108475693You voted for this
>>108482997TiredOfWinning.jpg
>>108478716They always were retard.We told you to install Gentoo.We warned you against systemd.We warned you against Wayland.We warned you against Rust.We warned you against Flatpak/Snap.You didn't listen.
>>108482576BLOATLOAT
>>108475680>Free as in FreedomOpen Source ≠ Free Software. Open Source has always been a corpo grift to get free labor and push Free Software out.
Troonpack tards btfo
>>108483744This.Polite nomenclature to ease the corporations in and not scare them off.
Use a debloat script on your Linux distro, bro (and break your future access to sites like this one due to being unverified).
>>108475680Meanwhile Windows 11 just works and I don't have to deal with this shit. I swear, I hate Desktop Linux every year I test it out.
>>108483213As someone that never dropped xterm, all the modern faggots can go to hell
>>108479082>You don't understand you stupid fucking chudcels, everything MUST be monolithic! EVERYTHING!!!!!!Ngmi
>>108475680the laws have nothing to do with flatpak, why are they doing this? same goes for systemd, why? they are not an OS
>>108483900>be me>install server ISO>sudo apt/pacman/whatever Desktop-metaJob done
>>108475680I hope someone's making a list of all the contributors that are adding age verification to all the pieces of software. We will need that list in the future to know who to ban from contributing.
>>108475680Why do you dumb faggots act like this won't be happening to basically all distros and related software? Definitely anything related to corporate/enterprise Linux will be going down this path. How else can they do business in these affected states?There is some pushback against such laws, but the odds of it working are quite low.
>>108484136>Definitely anything related to corporate/enterprise Linux will be going down this path. How else can they do business in these affected states?By getting an exception. Do you expect Timmy from IT to manually do age verification for their 1000 server farm plus age verification for every VM they spin up? That's not going to happen, which means that enterprise will get an exemption.
Freetards being cucked as fuck
>>108484136Suddenly no email with out attestation and ID.Unattested providers are blackholed.Dissent suddenly becomes impossible. No more color revolutions. No more protests organised online. No more "roll your own". You will literally be the Freedom Dalit to the IDd Brahmin.>pajeet reference relevant for you tards
>>108484708They actually did do this in India though and it hasn't accomplished jackshitBesides actually being a good voter ID, and just ask /pol/ how that is going in the usa in relation to digital ID lmaooooooo
>>108482945Fucking Poettering.
>>108475680Rape verification, government subsidized and mandated.Won't you think of the children *creams pants politically and governmentally*
>>108475779locked because y'all can't behave
>>108485467That's simply because voted IDs aren't wanted by the elites, but digital IDs are. It's really that simple.
>>108478947trump and every Democrat/republican rubber stamps all the palantir bs
>>108475680>the entire foss stack has started to preemptively capitulatedYou mean the entire foss stack is LEADING the age verification.Trannyware is trannyware. CoC is trannyware.
>>108483085>>108482997Not a MIGA tard, but you can't ignore the fact that it's blue states and commie run shitholes like Brazil pushing this stuff. Why is that? Why are they doing this right now?
AppImage doesn't have this problem.Say no to corporate slop from Red Hat/Gnome.
>>108486668Trump will threaten bloody murder over Epstein files, but sleeps on this.
>>108475680USE="-flatpak"Problem solved.
it's genuinely hilarious watching all the FOSS privacy nonsense geting exposed as the pathetic LARP that it was
You guys won't believe what i just found outhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecos_fieldLINUX IS ALREADY COLLECTING YOUR FULL NAME, ADDRESS AND TELEPHONE NUMBER! IT'S SO FUCKING OVER.
>>108486789Only thing getting exposed are the corpo rat infiltrators that will be purged from the FOSS community shortly.
>>108475704You can type 8008135 on the calculator
>>108475680I don't know what a "flatpack" is or does
>>108479367Every dumbass authoritarian law gets tested in Brazil first like it's a lab experiment. They collect the data here so later they can algorithmically shut down opposition when they roll the same stuff out in first-world countries. I've watched this happen multiple times.
>>108486855Can't collect what I never gave it.
>>108487159Goodness gracious!
>>108479077good
>>108488155This anon might be onto something..
>>108478366be the change
>>108479098deeply unemployed schizobabble
>>108475680>UK’s New Pandemic Plan Would Turn Big Tech Into a Mass Location Tracking Network>31 Mar 2026https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-pandemic-location-tracking-plan>Britain’s new £1 billion ($1.3m) pandemic strategy treats a future outbreak as a “certainty” and proposes building a contact tracing system that would feed on real-time location data harvested with the help of Silicon Valley’s biggest companies.
