>good design>easy to use>supported by big corpo therefore vendors and developers are really focusing on the firmware and software for it>got all the feautes you expect from the serious OS(power management for laptops, account center, accesibility, remote desktops, parental contol, up-to-date software etc)>got btrfs for snapshots>got SELinux, Wayland, Flatpaks and Pipewire for better security>good integration with containers The moment you realize that a Linux distro isn’t about a lifestyle, but simply a tool for getting work done and/or having fun, you realize you don’t need to tweak every single configuration, and you don’t need to set half-naked anime girls as your wallpaper for validation in desktop threads. You just take a finished system and use it like a grown-up.
>>108478471I agree, it truly is peak Linux. I don't want something maintained by a bunch of nobodies, I don't want something that will break every other day, I don't want something that lacks Linux ecosystem support.Fedora offers everything I could want from a distro. Redhat won, and this makes /g/ seethe.
>systemd>instantly folded to the age verification lawsGood distro for cucks like you I guess.
>>108478488>folded to the age verification laws>there's no age verification in systemdwhat are you talking about
>>108478481>codec shitteryall you need to do is replace ffmpeg-free with ffmpeg
>>108478471Love it or hate it, but you have to admit that this is the most polished design Linux has ever had.
>>108478488/g/tards don't know that userdb had fields for location, photos, etc., long before the age verification law was introduced. It's literally the nothingburger
>>108478531It's "polished" on the surface, but go any deeper and you'll find a mess of old GTK 3 apps still being active even with preinstalled software like GNOME boxes, random weird GUI choices, and a disjointed user experience. Maybe if they could keep consistency across the entire thing and stop being retarded and add back basic features it would be good
>>108478551>like GNOME boxesyup, but they're working on it>add back basic featureswhat are these basic features
>>108478504>>108478551https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/40954https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/a-practical-architectural-solution-to-os-level-age-verification-laws/183387/26There you go cucks
>>108478876Thanks for proving my point I guess There's literally no age verification in systemd
>>108478471I'm not a technophile, I just run a small business and want shit to work reliably. I went with fedora. I don't see any good reason to abandon it to chase some distro of the week bullshit.
>>108478471I prefer Debian. I don't want my system being constantly updated
>>108478471>snapshotsthat's openSUSEFedora uses btrfs but no snapshots
>>108478531Fedora now uses KDE like a grown-up distro
>>108479232>Not being an Arch userDevuan is p. nice.
>>108478471But how do you install all the codecs??? Im trying to decide between Ubuntu 26.04 or Fedora 44. The issue with Fedora is the codecs. I prefer SElinux and BTRFS for bootable snapshots. But I do like the GNOME defaults in Ubuntu more.
>>108478471>good design>easy to useEmpty words that any distro can claim, but mostly determined by the DE you use>supported by big corpo therefore vendors and developers are really focusing on the firmware and software for itWhat is this referring to? Drivers are in the kernel. And fedora specifically avoids including any others like nvidia drivers. For software, does it actually have more software support than something like Ubuntu?>got all the feautes you expect from the serious OS(power management for laptops, account center, accesibility, remote desktops, parental contol, up-to-date software etc)ok I guess but isn't that mostly the DE?Did they really add fedora-specific stuff for those?>got btrfs for snapshotsDid they finally set up snapshots or does that mean "we set btrfs as default fs and you can hack it up yourself">got SELinux, Wayland, Flatpaks and Pipewire for better securityexcept for SELinux that's every modern distro, and usually SELinux causes problems and gets disabled>good integration with containers how?>You just take a finished system and use it like a grown-up.Is that the same distro that requires tweaks to play a video out of the box
>>108479587>But how do you install all the codecs???You just... install them? Is this some zoomer thing where you never had to install codecs on Windows growing up?
>systemdinto the trash
>You just take a finished system and use it like a grown-upI do, which is why I don't use a beta tester distro like Fedora.
>>108478551>It's literally the nothingburgerthat's what they said about systemd when distros started to make it the default. It's also what they said when systemd started expanding beyond being just an init system.Surely this time it'll be a nothingburger
>>108480396>that's what they said about systemd when distros started to make it the default.>It's also what they said when systemd started expanding beyond being just an init systemImplying there's a problem lmao
>>108480063This.Not even contemplating a distro that has not scrapped that cancer.
>>108479798This is the most "uhm actually" reply here. When we talk about Fedora, we usually mean Fedora with GNOME
>>108480736Imagine distrohopping because of $CURRENT_THING. Such a pathetic lifeAnyway, all the serious distros run systemd
>>108480759Except systemd has been a problem well before they decided to take over anything from your bootloader to your /home dirsystemd/linux and whatnotFedora's probably the most shilled distro on the internet btw, not gonna use it for that alone.
>>108480057>>108479587codec thing is a real pain and it breaks stuff sometimes.vlc plugins from rpmfusion conflicting with regular vlc. i just install the flatpak now cause i don't want to deal with ts. also silverblue is nice af.
>>108480814What's the problem with it? Systemd is modular system manager, stuff that manages your home dir is separated from the init
>>108480743How does GNOME change any of that?>BTRFS but no actual backup solution besides kernel, have to rename subvolumes for things like SnapperCompared to OpenSUSE this sucks hard.>features that are mostly distro agnostic>SELinux, Wayland, FlatpaksWhich is also available in many distros, and you probably want to disable Fedora's own Flatpak and enable Flathub anyways. Fedora doesn't do anything special here, actually it makes you do more work out of the box.>containersNothing different to other distros.>doesn't play videos out of the boxTrue, also doesn't even provide thumbnails for common video formats.Fedora is way too vanilla out of the box to be called a complete distro, and it also ships a very vanilla GNOME which is good until you have to rely on extensions that may break while other distros ship tweaks out of the box for things like tray icons.If you want to see a serious Fedora for MUH WORK MUH PRODUCTIVITY I'M AN ADULT look at Bluefin. That is an actual developer who built an image based on what other developers would want and it's a world away from barebones vanilla Fedora and GNOME despite still being GNOME, and it has a separate dev mode that basically doubles the size of the already XBOX HUEG install so you can actually start working with containers properly integrated with IDEs. It takes real work to make vanilla Fedora GNOME into something you'd actually use for real work.
>>108478980you'll see lel, this is how it always starts out. At first it's optional and then it becomes mandatory. The fact that they're even entertaining these laws shows you how cucked it is. They will fold the second a politician makes it a mandatory thing and systemd is the only way they can actually enforce it on linux.I'm already planning on jumping ship to gentoo or artix.
>>108481412>also doesn't even provide thumbnails for common video formats.Even after installing nonfree codecs from rpmfusion?
>>108481549>slippery slope argumentyou know if that's true then not even non-systemd distros will be safe, right
>>108481691You need ffmpegthumbnailer after swapping to full ffmpeg. On Silverblue this is double painful because "muh flatpaks bring muh codecs" breaks down.
>>108481700False. Enjoy your cucked distro.
>>108481700>slippery slope argumentnot always true but is a huge chunk of the time. An argument containing a fallacy doesn't make it wrong, ironically that's a fallacy too. You could make a slippery slope argument about local/microsoft accounts and it became true with win11 and will continue to with future versions.>not even non-systemd distros will be safe, rightthere's literally no way to enforce age verification on linux without systemd. Distros like redhat/fedora/ubuntu will all comply and these are the same fags running systemd too. It will be in every distro that's a corporate entity since they're forced to follow the law. Smaller community run distros will be the only viable options. Artix already made it clear they will never add age verification no matter what.
>good design>easy to use>supported by Valve>got all the feautes (sic) you expect from the serious OS(power management for laptops, account center, accesibility, remote desktops, parental contol, up-to-date software etc)sounds like my GNOME Arch setup, except I don't have to wait for the new version of Fedora in two more weeks
Testing out Fedora/KDE. It's alright, but I think I need less. I might just go to a window manager only something like dwl. Gwenview for example seems slower than even Windows Photos.
ehem..FUCK GNOMEFUCK KDEFUCK SYSTEMDFUCK FLATPAKFUCK ARCHFUCK CACHYFUCK FEDORAFUCK UBUNTU
>>108482517Windows or someBSD it is.
>>108478471I prefer OpenSUSE, and I personally think it's better in most things. But Fedora is very nice, too, and I can see why you like it, OP.
>>108482535>WindowsSorry, I meant ReactOS.
