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>The best open source model is trained on huawei
is the west screwed? China is catching up and the hardware sanction isn't working
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>>108479446
I don't know about "won" but the fact they are still releasing their models as open-weight is really really good for companies who are interested in hosting their own LLMs internally.
Fuck the american companies for keeping their shit private after training on public data.
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>5 to 5.1 jumped that much
Great benchmaxxing zhang, now you're a real AI "company"!
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>>108479446
>China doesn't use javascript devjeets for AI
The real question is: why do we?
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>>108479911
it also reduced tokens per seconds by about 40% lol.
also, in a few weeks the first blackwell pretrained models are about to drop and china will get left if in the dust if orangenigger doesn't sell out (he will)
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>>108479911
a typical western seething that they get to run their own model on their own hardware
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>>108479446
Everybody is just distilling the latest Opus, you can tell they don't have the secret sauce because they always trail a little behind.
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>>108479446
China is (((catching up))) by distilling:(stealing) us llm models.
So basically china being chinam
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>>108479957
>>108479960
the west have no right complaining about stealing when the west train on stolen copyright data
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you can just use it at z.ai
spoiler: it's kinda shit
still claude/kimi/qwen for me
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>>108479446
>China is catching up

Catching up to what? LLMs are marginally useful technology and the US is the global leader in wasting money over this bullshit
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>>108479446
china spent 1/10th the money and got 95% of the result. This is a complete victory for china
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>>108479446
The us keep shooting themselves in the foot. China will just built things themselves the thing can't get and make it better. Just look that the space station. The decision to ban china from iss a decade ago is a disaster
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>>108479960
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Poor widdle westerner lol
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>>108479826
Because they can't sell it with the typical X-as-a-service business model in the West, so the next best thing is to poison the well for OAI and Anthropic. Their models also probably only run on top of their hardware, so anybody who wants to deal with them has to buy chips from them.
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>>108480586
>Their models also probably only run on top of their hardware, so anybody who wants to deal with them has to buy chips from them.
>t. Knows absolutely nothing and has done zero research
This simply is not true at all, you just made that up as wild speculation.
Could they do that in the future? Maybe. But right now, all their open weight models work perfectly fine on non-Chinese hardware.
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>>108479446
>is the west screwed
We need to be working on post-EUV light sources immediately. I cannot begin to explain how screwed we are.
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>>108479446
>China is the strongest and the best
I mean, maybe if you associate China with strength and best it will actually come true.



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