My fellow Trackballian, get your asses in here. talk about your love of the trackball mouse.
>>108480308Is possible to use ball as gamepad stick?
>>108480320dunno, give it a shot.
>>108480308I still use Elecom Deft Pro, but it was sticky so I had to change the bearings after first week and after that it has been fine, but all these years scroll wheel has skipped. Worst is when I click middle mouse button and it 90% of the time scrolls even though I didn't move the scroll wheel.
>>108480326btw I have two of these. They have same problems and I changed bearings to both of them.
>>108480326I have the MX Ergo and I loe this guy.
>>108480308Somebody gave me one of these years ago. Tried it for a couple hours but I couldn't get into it. How long would it take to acclimate?
>>108480367There's all kinds, I had that version as a kid, but as I got older, I got the normal thumb one.
>>108480308I love me some large firm balls
Big gameball fan. I finally got around to installing rawaccel a year or so back, it's very nice for quick movement.
Central ball vs side ballDebate
>>108480550I used a thumb ball version for a few years but developed a twitch in that thumb. After switching to a central ball, I haven't had any problems.>>108480367Think it took me about two days to adjust.
>>108480425Thats some nice blue ball you got there anon
>>108480939It's not as painful as everyone says! It is pretty enjoyable honestly.
>>108480524Whats the learning curve? Can you dunk on the noobs just as easily?
>>108480320Some of the shit console ports essentially do that for mouse controls.It's pure cancer with regular mouse but super precise with trackball.Worst offender I've seen is that one western EDF spinoff, all my friends hated the big-fuckoff-beam cannons because it was impossible to aim while firing, while I snapped it from target to target effortlessly.
I got a Kensington trackball at the beginning of this year. I hadn't used a trackball since the early 2000's. I'm a big fan(I don't play vidya) and I don't see myself going back to a standard mouse
>>108481150I don't think it'll ever be as good as a mouse for video games, unless you've got a really high sens and a low 360. Great for browsing.
>>108481169i also have pic related it works but mouse r better and faster
what if it gets dirty
>>108481321Nice, check out mine.
>>108481349pop it out, get a cloth, get the scum out, wipe your ball off, then pop it back in. It happens from time to time.
>>108481440>wipe your ball offUnlike old mechanical mice the ball glides on stationary teflon pads so it better be just a little bit greasy tough.
>>108481352BestTrackball Ever
>>108481349I put the ball in my mouth and suck on it for a while to get it clean. It tastes kind of like old coins but less metallic.
>>108480308I switched to trackballs more than 25 years ago. One of the best decisions I've ever made. Now I'm using Trackman Marble before that I used pic related. I also tried a thumb version, but I couldn't get used to it.
>>108481665that trackball sux lmao
>>108481675I liked it.
>>108481741LMAO NOOB
>>108480308ON THE LAST EPISODE OF TRACK BALL Z
I know someone with a track ball. Is there a track ball mouse for beginners?
>>108482055they aren't complicated to use. Just pick one and test it out.
>>108482055Try this one
>>108482055There are but I'm not gonna tell you.
>>108480308>Trackman MarbleI got two, of course both have issues because Logitech used shit quality switches. Other than that, I love the damn thing, very comfy.
>>108482085Oh, I used to have this!
for me it's the Slimblade
>>108482055You think there's a learning curve?
>>108480308i have one of those. the bearings are shit.
>>108482574in the 2000s and maybe in the 90s, I can't remember when it came out but it was a solid type, I think they still make that model today.
>>108482702Seems to be discontinued, from what people on Reddit say.
>>108482417>twist the ball to scrolllmaoing @ ur life
>>108480425I have a cst trackball mouse I bought like 10 years ago and never used. It seemed difficult to work with at the time. You're making me think I should try it again.
>>108483160I wish every ball had the twist feature
>>108480308>posts the shittiest trackball imaginable >>108482417now we're talking
>>108481150For thumb ball you can get used to it on one day. For finger balls it might take a couple more days but it depends on you.
I have 2 elecoms, wired huge + deftthey just werk
>>108483164I mean, I play CS2 with it and use it for 90% of my mousing needs. Its fine and people that complain about it are just stuck on traditional mouse mode.
>>108482055You can try the Jomaa brand ones, they are simple and pretty cheap.
>>108483369>I play CS2 with itAnd you suck for doing it don't you? Do not lie.
>>108483426I'm better with it than a traditional mouse, but I am still shit at FPS games.
>>108480308I have this exact trackball on the PC where I paint ceramics (there's no room for a mouse in there)I also have a CRT monitor hooked up there because it's way easier to get paint off of the screen
>>108481665go back to r*ddit
Been using one of these for over a year, it's hard to go back to regular mice.
>>108480308scroll wheel on this chunk of plastic died for some reason. had it on a shelf and took it off and it was just completely fucked. tried compressed air and all. when i first got it many years back i replaced the bearings and it's felt "decent" to the best of my understanding. do you think it's worth replacing the scroll wheel or are there some other convenient wireless ones? i plan to probably just use it with a laptop so yeah i would prefer wireless.
>>108483913I have this. Just transfers the strain from my wrist to my thumb. Utterly pointless.
I fucking loved when laptops ahd these vad boys instead of trackpads. You could use the ball of your hand to move the mouse with prevision and minimal hand movement away from the keyboard. FUCK TRACKPADS!Otoh, I don't see much advantage in setups like >>108480425 tbqh
>>108484179You don't, clearly. I wonder what the purpose of that post is.
>>108480308I tried many, gave up and made one myself.All have unoptimal placement of bearings, only 125Hz sensors, bad placement of buttons etc.Another thing about trackballs is, mice are far easier in combining a click action with motion. You click with your finger and you move your mouse with your entire lower arm or wrist. Trackballs are uncomfortable, where you have to use two motions with your hand instead. I found using my left-hand keyboard for mouse-button input and right hand for trackball control, the only solution for extensive input.
>>108484307>move ball with fingers>click with thumbThat's one hand
>>108483913patrician
>he doesn't dual wieldishiggidiggitydoo
>>108484208It is just comfortable to me. That is the purpose.
>>108485728Okay. I 'm glad that is good for you.
>>108483299You leave that trackball alone! It did it's best!>>108484208I forgot about this! LMAO>>108485252>right handed mofo
>>108484208>picSo it's a girl laptop?
>>108481169>>108481321>>108481352>>108481525kek
>>108480308My least favorite trackball ever, and it's all that gets posted.
>>108481665>gee bill>how come your mom lets you have TWO WHEELS!?
>>108482417>for me it's the SlimbladeSame. Perfect precision, no wrist pain.
>>108483160>twist the ball to scrollThat's actually cool.You can also scroll by pressing right-click and using the ball normally.>lmaoingWhy are you gay?
>>108480308I have one of those Logitech Marbles and a Porlei TM550
I bought this guy thanks a few people on /g/ shilling it and it's everything i dreamed it would be: using a ball to move the arrow thingie on my screenbought it two years ago and it still works like it did out of the box.I've opened it twice to clean out the gunk.IT's pretty good for gaming: starcraft and call of duty.I've been wanting another track ball (work computer), just to try out another brand, but they're kinda pricey and most sound like they'll break in a year, if not buggy right out of the box (elecom).So I might just buy another L Trac once my work computer's mouse breaks.
Should I get one to do game dev on my macbook? I'm trying to use the trackpad instead of a mouse because I don't like clicking too much (hurts my wrist).
>>108480308I like my relacon. My current mx ergo is starting to double click because logitech is shit.
>>108488611Welcome to the dark side!
>>108483913I use one that is the same shape but from logitech. I was actually shopping for a vertical mouse but they were more expensive so I went with it to try it out and it is now my office mouse (still use a regular one for gaming). I really love being able to use it in bed or very surfaces. Also it is hilarious every time a coworker tries to use it and their brain short circuits kek.>>108484179Idk in my case I only felt thumb strain for like a week while getting used to it and now I don't get any pains.To any Kengsington orb ponderers ITT, is it worth switching from a more mouse-like design like the one I have to something like >>108482417 considering they cost 3x more?
>>108484208I hate trackpads too. I guess trackballs are just more expensive and easier to break than a captouch slab.
>>108489038>or very surfacesOr very small surfaces*Pic rel is the one I have, the Ergo M575, next to my somehow still surviving G402 from 2019 kek.
>>108482085Crazy how colorful and optimistic everything used to be while now everything is gray and corporate coded.Fuck this gay earth man.
L-trac is probably my favorite trackball mouse, but I like using gun mice more. They keep your wrist even more vertical than most vertical mice and I have never had any issues since. I don't know why more companies don't sell them. If you make a perpendicular fist with your pinky side completely on the bottom and slide it around your desk that's what it feels like using the mouse. Most other vertical mice are taco shaped and it does not make any sense at all.
>>108489006yeah, i bought the black one cause i hate light or any sort of reflectiong on my screen and glasses.Also, I wonder how bad other ball mice get, because of how their mechanisms work. The Elecom uses tiny little balls, while the LTrac has rolling pins. Do those little balls ever get dirty? Do they need to get replaced?Because the roller pins have so much surface space that all the gunk takes like a year before it builds up to the point it affects my aiming/cursoring on my LTracThe first time i opened my LTrac, i thought that the rolling pins had a rubber coating and was prematurely rotting, because it was flaking off. Thankfully, it was just oily dead skin cells.>>108489634I put two extra rubber feet on the left side of mine to angle it for a more ergonomic feel.
>>108484945You realize that Reddit is just an internet HOA right?
Long time slimblader trying out the Elecom Huge Plus. I really like the new roller bearings compared to the little ruby ones in the slimblade. It’s a shame Kensington doesn’t really seem able to put out any new products. The Elecom is okay, I thought the ergonomics would be better honestly, but the ball moves really smoothly. The L-trac seems interesting but not comfy.
>>108489739All static bearing trackballs aside from gameball are shit. The bearings get dirty too fast. Gameball's geometry means it takes about 2-3 weeks before I need to take the ball out, and cleaning it is just running a finger over the bowl, there's no open window to the sensor.Because it's single point contact, they do wear out. Gameball is the only static bearing trackball I've been able to use for more than a week without throwing in the garbage, the bearings have a life expectancy of about 2 years of heavy use and replacements are a few cents each and a 10 minute job taking the mouse apart to remove them. I saw noticeable wear on the improved L-trac rollers after about 7 years, but not enough to warrant replacement, I'd estimate 10-15 year lifespan but I stopped using mine. I'd recommend occasionally greasing the shafts where they enter the delrin sleeves with something like silicone grease, once every couple of years. Other trackballs can be more tedious, on an Elecom trackball I had to drill them out from the back to be able to remove them. Ignore anyone who says that a bearing swap will improve performance, it won't. The issue is almost never material, the issue is poor design. All Logitech, Elecom, and Kensington products are designed wrong, Kensington even had a colossal fuckup and recall with their newest trackball due to managing to fuck up the sensor placement.
left with amount of buttons of right (or as close as possible), does it exists?
>>108490910I think I saw someone modify an Azeron with a trackball, that's about as close as you're going to get.
>>108489467Seriously. When I was growing up we had these things and it was enough for us. I learned to speak and to spell so many words and had a blast the whole time. It may sound "cringe" now but it really represented a cultural zeitgeist of having hope for the future that I'd give anything to go back to. Now everything I'm supposed to use needs to be "sleek" and "silver" and completely devoid of soul.Where did it all go wrong?
>>108491241I want this to do technologic
there's nothing like a trackball
These are all looking so very unergonomic.
>>108488611only 125hz sensor.scrollwheel is at uncomfortable place, though the movement itself is very nice.buttons are uncomfortable to press.access to bearings is troublesome, when a hair gets stuck you need to open up the whole thing.needs a soft wristrest to be comfortable.quite loud while moving.either way, it is one of the best ones out there, simply because of the poolball size and was my inspiration to make a better one.
>>108491241Gays and Asians. The former are obsessed with minimalism and the latter don't care about design at all. Both have been put in charge of tech.
>>108490910Put wheels on the bottom of a keyboard.
for me its VicTsing PC325 Wireless Ergonomic Keyboard with Trackball and Scroll Wheel USB 2.4G Quiet Split Keyboard with 16 Multimedia Keys...
>>108493033the 2nd one, the MX ergo is what I commonly use
I think for me, the ideal trackball would be the shell of a slimblade, with the internals and optional scroll whell of the L-trac. I love my L-trac, but using a slimblade again while on vacation made me realize how much I miss having those huge buttons and just having a broader surface to work with in general.
>>108493398you talkinga bout elecom, right?>>108490834You've done a great job in convincing me to buy another LTrac and not bothering to buy anything with tiny little ball bearings.BUUUT you did make Gameball sound good and they do sound like they make quality, unlike seemingly everything else that breaks in a year. I'm interested in a thumb trackball and Gameball's isn't that expensive despite sounding like it's quality.
>>108480308I like using my thumb to move the cursor, but the physical ball is a weak spot. Wish they made a mouse with a trackpad on the side.
>>108488611that is the best trackball ever made. the only thing bad about it is that it has to be cleaned every few months. I've had 3, and I still have 2. I have replaced the left mouse button on then at least once, and rewired the usb cable because it wears out over time.
>>108493398>only 125hz sensor.doesn't mean anything>scrollwheel is at uncomfortable place,nope it is perfect>buttons are uncomfortable to press.nope>access to bearings is troublesome, when a hair gets stuck you need to open up the whole thing.>needs a soft wristrest to be comfortable.nope>quite loud while moving.nope
>>108497015>I have replaced the left mouse button on then at least once, and rewired the usb cable because it wears out over timehow many years did that take?And was it made by CST or X Keys? Just want to know what to prepare for in the future, because mine's over 2 years old now and still problem free.
L-trac. What else do you need?
>>108480550Central for me. I want to use my entire palm.
>>108482055Just buy anything from Logitech or Kensington. They are all decent these days.
>>108488611Yeah, just get another L-trac for work. There's no other trackball with metal roller so nothing will feel as smooth.
I don't know why but I've always thought trackballs are for fats.
>>108495877Gameball thumb is a rebadged chink ball, I haven't used it and I don't know if its geometry is any good. Gameball is a rebadged industry mouse (Cursor Controls) designed and manufactured in a first world country, like L-trac. There's a pro version coming out at some point but I don't know where that's going to be made, I assume after thumb that the company will shift production to China to save money.Most other roller bearing mice are just using off the shelf shielded bearings, and I've never been a fan of these because they're designed more for spinning. Good for the arcade, not good for computing.
>>108498959thanks for the info.I've noticed nobody is shilling the Ploopy trackballs this time around. did they start failing or something?
I was going to quote all the shit trackballs in here, but 100% of them are SHIT.Fuck you fucking thumb-ball fuckers, you ruined trackballs forever.This is the only good style of trackball - "over shoulder" trackball gives you both precision and speed. I've drawn AND gamed on that fucker. Sniper.Fuck your shitty thumb-balls, fuck your shitty symmetry-balls, over-shoulder or jump over a bridge.
>>108499570I was so angry at all of your SHIT TASTE I forgot the image.
>>108499580This trackball almost has good design. The scroll wheel on top is great, although if the design was better it would be a little closer to the ball. But then they only put one button for pinky and ring, which is full retard as far as I'm concerned, and a lot of the buttons look like shit to use.
>>108499626It was perfectly comfortable to use, dreamy even.Definitely agree on lack of buttons on the right side though. And thumb side. All buttons were remappable as well, which made it so much better.I used Autohotkey in the middle to make those buttons context-aware and set their trigger keys to win+f13 keys onwards I've wanted to make a modern version of it but I'm also a lazy fuck.Specifically one thing I would get rid of is WIRELESS SHITE. Fuck wireless.
