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>Digital Cameras
>look like ass compared to film photos
>digitally shot films and tv shows
>look like ass compared to shows and films filmed on film
>digitally drawn and colored anime, western animation and comics
>look like ass compared to hand drawn and colored works
why does digital tech make things worse?
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>>108483698
>Digital Cameras
>look like ass compared to film photos
This hasn't been true for about two decades now provided you shoot in RAW on a DSLR and actually process your photos competently.
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>>108483720
it's still true now. that's why DSLR sales are in the shitter and film sales have gone up to the point where kodak brought back ektachrome and fuji poloaroids are consistently the top selling photography product on amazon every year
digital looks terrible and the only advantage is that it's cheaper and better autofocus and low light
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>>108483727
>DSLR sales are in the shitter and film sales have gone up to the point where kodak brought back ektachrome and fuji poloaroids are consistently the top selling photography product on amazon every year
This is like saying vinyl sounds better than CD (it doesn't) because it outsells it these days. Both vinyl and film's popularity are driven by nostalgiafags, hipsters, zoomers etc. much like the recent trend of buying shitty mid-2000s era handicams and point and shoots.
For both CDs and DSLRs, a technology that was "good enough" (streaming and smartphone cameras) replaced them leading to most people abandoning them. Retard.
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>>108483727
>digital looks terrible
Again this is purely down to how competent you are with processing your photos after the fact. You can make a digital photo look exactly like any film stock in lightroom, while having much more data and resolution to work with. Stop talking out of your ass.
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>>108483698
Luddite thread
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>>108483740
>This is like saying vinyl sounds better than CD (it doesn't)
vinyl does sound better. MP3s only record to the 3rd or 4th oscillation while vinyl records unlimited oscillations
people went to digishit because it was cheaper, not because it's better, retard. it's way worse, retard
>>108483748
which is why movies all look like ass now and professional photos look like ass now?
>>108483750
don't believe your lying eyes
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>>108483770
>vinyl does sound better
Thank you for confirming you're a retard. I can leave this thread in peace now.
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>>108483783
not my fault you are deaf, retard
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>>108483770
you absolute retard
cds? mp3?
oscillations? what the fuck?
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>>108484189
when you play a musical note it makes an oscillating sound wave. there are like subwaves under the main waves and mp3s only go x layers of subwave deep because "that's all humans can hear" but you can pick up on it all the way down, that's why live music sounds different than an MP3
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>>108483698
I've been doing a lot of film photography lately, at least one 35mm roll a month and there is one area where digital is much better and that is low light / night photography. Everything else looks better on film though.
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>>108484234
This candid shot would not have been possible with film.
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>>108484218
this is what schizophrenia looks like
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>>108484242
This is what retardation looks like
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>>108484234
agreed
>>108484242
you can go look up the physics. I'm a chemist and I'm telling you what I learned in a physics class over a decade ago.
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>what are VSCO presets
/thread
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>>108483720
still true

>>108483740
>This is like saying vinyl sounds better than CD
using your gay analogy:
film = 32bit 196khz uncompressed raw PCM, digital photography: 20kbps mono mp3. are you retarded? is it down syndrome? seek help, retard.
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>>108484264
>digital photography: 20kbps mono mp3
>t. poorfag who's never owned a DSLR
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>>108483720
you know people like op just keep the preview jpeg's and don't know how to process photos

>but i've never had to do that with film!
they process those for you, and even then professionals may make special requests while processing film
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>>108484248
maybe you should have paid more attention. also, music CDs don't even use MP3.
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>>108484270
normalfags dont know this but every photo they have had developed ever had to be colour corrected
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>>108484269
>low iq monkey that knows nothing about digital photography or film has mental breakdown
>t..poor or some shit
you could be a billionaire and you're still a drooling and retarded fucking moron that has no idea how any technology works. i can't imagine ever being that fucking retarded to compare film to vinyl. that some fucking dumb shit only a dumb fucking retard would ever vomit up. what a loser.
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>>108484234
if this is supposed to be a good example of film then clearly you only prefer it because it looks like it was taken on an old camera, not becauae it's an objectively high-quality/accurate representation of the scene.
not to say there's anything wrong with liking the "film look" to be clear
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>>108484293
recreating the film look entirely digitally is really easy, photoshop has had presets for it since the start
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>>108484283
reminds me of an article by a "photographer" which compared film and dslr. one example had photos of different iso levels. All the film prints looked about the same while the digital jpegs were all different brightnesses. He concluded that film could therefore be "pushed" more, seemingly oblivious thay the print shop corrected the film photos for him
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>>108483748
>You can make a digital photo look exactly like any film stock in lightroom,
Nope.
>while having much more data
Wrong.
>and resolution to work with.
False.
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>indie film
>shoots on cheap digital 4k
>they don't add some subtle and carefully curated film grain emulation in the end
>ends up look like smooth realistic ass
It's so easy to fix it.
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>>108484251
film looks better
>>108484269
DSLR sales are in the shitter while film sales are going back up
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>>108484293
It's obviously taken with a disposable style camera with a plastic lens. It's more about the colors, dynamic range and grain. If I had taken the photo with actual glass it would have looked much better. Photography is about soul and film has so much more soul than digital.

Take photos of the sky with film vs digital and the differences are huge.

Pic related would have looked better with film.
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>>108484322
perhaps the main dowside with dslr's is that you do need to know how to process photos. film processing isn't something the person taking the photo needs to even know is happening
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>>108484218
>Digital sound after DAC sounds different based on format you out it on
Wtf are you talking about?
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>>108484343
you can make a digital photo look like film if you want to, as it has more information to work with.
it's like what someone else said about cd vs. vinyl, vinyl is a more limited format, but some people like the limited quality of it. if you record output from a vinyl and burn the sound to a cd, it will sound exactly the same
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>>108484339
If you have to over process your photos you're not a photographer but a photoshopper instead. I've seen retards spend hours processing their raws for it to still look like steaming shit in the end while others do a quick 5min level and curve adjustment and the results are amazing. Over processing is a cope and compensation for taking bad photos.
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>>108484366
not sure how that relates to my post
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>>108484362
>you can make a digital photo look like film if you want to, as it has more information to work with.
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>>108484369
I developed film and you're exaggerating at the amount of processing going vs digital.
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>>108484370
i accept your concession
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>>108484357
You do know that vinyl is digitally mastered since like 70s? Just because your interface is analogue doesn't mean your music is.
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>>108484376
My concession is my dick in your ass (without lube) so bend over and bite your sleeve
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>>108484385
i'm not gay, sorry
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Film has a digital resolution equivalent.

They have rescanned some of the old well preserved films close to it in digital format.

Old epic movie film was indeed better than most resolutions it was played back on a digital format for a long time.


But film and digital are often quoted in resolutions that do not equate to real levels of detail transferred because the image is still limited by the lens and glass it goes through as much as the medium it is recorded on.
Many smart phones have impressive resolutions shot through tiny pathetic lenses and a picture with 20% of the resolution shot through a high end lens would still have better detail.
Imagine people thinking a microscratched dime sized lens kept in a pocket or purse with dust, keys, change, etc even comes close to lenses like a high end telescope.
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>>108484343
>you're asking me to remember the jargon from something over 10 years ago
did it ever occur to you that if you don't remember what you are talking about that you might be wrong?
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>>108484396
It has to do with you being wrong about analogue vs digital debate. You brought up digital format (vinyl) and compare it to CDs and act like there is a difference, showing your own ignorance and lack of rational though.
Your assertion on analogue vs digital images can be disregarded because we can assume you have no knowledge based opinions on the matter just like with vinyl.
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>>108484264
>32bit 196khz uncompressed raw PCM
low iq post
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>>108484396
it's more like "starting from 1979", digital mastering was literally a selling point in the '80s as doing more digitally result in less losses and higher quality records. i doubt anything past probably the mid-80s used only analog equipment in the production of records
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>>108484284
And you know a lot about digital photography do you? What equipment and workflow did you use? Talk us through it mister expert
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>>108484396
>what does it have to do with...
he's guaging if you're a "analog is better because it's analog" type people

>>108484444
If you cared you can look it up, there's lots of info on it, it's not secret information. like i said it was a selling point, your record sleeves may even have an icon on it to show if it was recorded and/or mastered digitally.
>Take Donald Fagen’s “The Nightfly” from 1982. Vinyl collectors love showing off this album, praising its warm, analog sound. In fact, according to Paul, some of them even cite this album as a benchmark for vinyl’s superior sound.
>Plot twist: it was made entirely with digital technology.
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>>108484444
>that doesn't look like a source every vinyl post 1970 is digital
Do you think ANYONE is recording directly onto a wax master disc anymore when producing "vinyls"?
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>>108483720
Dude...
x)
Seriously?

Digital RAW vs Film RAW
It is not same format.
Digital Raw is used in so called professional consumer electronic

But Hollywood still use classic RAW Film.

You making fun Of yourself here
Do you know that !?
Right ?
x)
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>>108484444
>nope. and that doesn't look like a source every vinyl post 1970 is digital.
Common knowledge doesn't need to be cited. Go use Google and you'll find that 70s is where it started.
90s is where only metal bands and other indies used analogue (hence the shit muffled sound).
You know nothing on the subject and ask for citations on common knowledge.
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>>108484477
What the fuck is film raw? You mean film?
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>>108484462
all your favourite records past the early 80s went through a digital stage no better than what cd's offer, so it is actually, objectively impossible for records to have better sound than cd past that point. and i don't see people using older records as prime examples... almost like they were even worse pre-digital-mastering
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>>108483770
>digital sound is only mp3s
turbo retard
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>>108484503
you're talking with someone who has no clue about this subject
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>>108484517
Don't need to site common knowledge. It's on you to know about basic debate topic. I'm not here to teach you jack shit I'm here to tell you, you are a retard who knows nothing.
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>>108484512
again, prefering the look of film does not mean it is objectively better. nobody is saying you can't have a preference for film
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>>108483770
>Recording in MP3
LMAO @ ur lyfe
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>>108484542
you can find info about it anywhere, here's one since your google seems to be broken;
https://midnightrebels.com/mastering-engineer-debunks-vinyl-myth-analog-warmth-has-been-digital-for-45-years/
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>>108484542
>it is objectively better.
If it's objectively better then you can just cite sources for comparison. Should be easy.
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>>108484393
Neither am I, now prepare your bussy
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It's not the tech as much as how it's used. Like look at Breaking Bad for example. It looks incredible. I was on the bus the other day and they were showing some Venom movie, capeshit special... The color grading made it look almost like you're watching HDR badly tone mapped to SDR. All the actors didn't look like movie stars to me. They looked like they belong on some shitty drama on CBS. The big budget special effects don't help with the suspension of disbelief. It's not the canvas or the paintbrush, it's the skill of the painter.
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>>108484496
A negative you retard. Movies are projected with positive film by the way.
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>>108484542
I'm pro film but movies look bad today due to bad lighting because everything is flat so it can be fixed in post and most LEDs don't have the full spectrum of color as the old hot and expensive lights
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>>108484628
But they don't actually fix it correctly in post. They leave it looking terrible.
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>>108483770
What does mp3 have to do with CDs?
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Just use a film filter on digital

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueB0oNajuEg
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>>108484634
It really isn't the cameras. Something like Before The Devil Knows You're Dead has a lot of flaws but the look is not one of them. It was very much intentional for the story that was being told and enhanced the parts of it that weren't weighted down by bad acting, cheesy melodrama, or overbearing music.
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>>108484630
That's the irony of it all. Somewhere we stopped striving for excellence and settled into the good enough club. I think millennials have very low standards.
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>>108484642
Bad lighting will look like shit on digital and film
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>>108484651
Well I'm a millennial and I hate all of this garbage. But I just pirate everything and don't spend lots of money on movie tickets or streaming subscriptions. The last time I went to see a movie was a re-release of The Shining on IMAX. Doesn't help that the country I moved to is fucking capeshit central and the movies I do want to see aren't often showing.
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>>108484477
>x)
Stupid fucking slav
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>>108484673
Now I know you're just retarded lmao. You didn't engage with anything I just said. I don't respect you.
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>>108484634
>gunbusters, akira and ghost in the shell 1995 look better than any anime that has come out since 2005
prefering the look of film anime doesn't mean digital video is worse.
in your defence i will say that digital video mastering is a lot easier, which has the unfortunate effect of allowing more lazy production.
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>>108483698
I still think its funny that we have movies from the 1930s that look better than blockbuster titles from the 00s. 35mm film is equivalent to 6K resolution while these retards actually switched to 1080p digital camera's for movies like star wars episode 2 & 3.
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>>108484681
It's like; doing cool effects straight on film requires time and skill, while pressing a button in a digital NLE does not, so it's to be expected you will get more low quality stuff with digital processes
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Are you one of those retards who saw a signal quantization picture and now you think you know what you're talking about?
pic related, something like this
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>>108484694
I'm American, actually. I bet you're the sort of person who would fawn over some slut's instagram picture shot on an iPhone that had a film grain filter slapped on it. You're the sort of person who fetishizes the medium and it's general aesthetic rather than actually being able to articulate what does and doesn't work about what you're seeing. Clean picture, no grain, bad. Grain good. Like the sort of person who brings up pops and crackles when you talk about a vinyl record.
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>>108484694
>I don't care what homosexuals think
He doesn't care about his own thought and opinions, very sad.
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>>108483698
digital != film, and that's it, you are not really limited with digital, you just have a different workflow, many top tier films are filmed with digi, so pretty much eat a trillion dicks with your weak cope
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>>108484726
Yes, you can project with film
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>>108484723
Easy access to guns is not the best part of being an American. Easy access to a ticket out of America is the best part of being an American.
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>>108484723
Ah, so you are. lmaoing at your life, faggot
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>imax film
yikes
>35mm
Soul
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>>108484753
>>108484750
>no gun
you aren't American, faggot. I don't know a single heterosexual with a passport
>>108484753
>>108484742
faggot
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>>108484781
yeah, you're so limited that literal top tier films are now being filmed in full digi, kys retard
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>>108484782
I don't plan on shooting anybody dead so I don't need a gun. The fuck else am I gonna use one for? Sitting in a deer blind for hours out in the cold waiting for a chance to take a shot that may never come? If I'm going to waste all my time away I demand that I do so in total comfort and relaxation, like a real American. Can't get no damn food delivered innawoods.
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digital is only getting pushed because companies want to make money and governments want to improve economy
if it weren't for that, adoption rate would be way lower
because even the most dense people will be able to see how analogue just looks better
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>>108484802
It's not as if the look is the only problem. You can't just make something that looks like a proper movie, throw Brad Pitt out there, then pretend you got Oscar bait with a populist bent. You need a decent script and a director who isn't a hack too. The whole team has to be doing their jobs correctly.
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>>108484396
>heres a bunch of retarded shit i claim with ZERO credibility or evidence
>b-b-but do you have the everdence???
fuck off with your double standards retard
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>>108484642
>wmv
Anon...
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>>108484812
What for? Why would I buy and learn to use something that I have no use for? I wouldn't blow anybody's brains out for ethical reasons. Even if some people deserve it I'm not interested in going to the vagina free zone for the rest of my life because of it.
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>>108484837
i dont watch anime, im not a brain damaged child
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>>108484802
>and they look like fucking ass
lel, yeah ok retard, good luck with your down syndrome crusade, and remember to kys to save your family from the embarrassme that is watching you breath
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>>108484847
this is a TECHNOLOGY website retard
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>>108484851
its a freudian slip, he meant that he likes fucking arse
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>>108484847
Defend myself, my family, and my country from what? Nothing ever happens where I'm from. That's why I left the country. In the US either you live in the most boring place where people have nothing to do but get drunk and fuck or you live in a dangerous city. The suburbs might as well not exist. It's like being in purgatory. I wrote some thing about film, digital, and the loss of craftsmanship in the industry but my browser crashed and I raged. Instead of trying to write it again I'm going to fix 4chan-xt to save what I type in case of failures.
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>>108484879
Everything good about the US is outweighed by all the negatives. It's a nice place to visit. A terrible place to live.
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>>108484847
Explain in your own words what is wrong with urbanization.
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>>108484900
I like my foreskin thank you very much.
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>>108483698
>>108483750
based thread
the luddites were right
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>eh thinks his film photos aren't handled digitally at the print shop
lmao @ ops's life
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try watching anything shot on film these days:
- washed out colors ever
- grain and noise
- low resolution digital conversions
- vaselin effect on TV shows

yeah no
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>>108483727
It's because DSLRs aren't made anymore.It's all mirrorless shit
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>>108484634
>gunbusters, akira and ghost in the shell 1995 look better than any anime that has come out since 2005
Subjective, opinion based garbage.
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>>108485041
>no one buys those either
Tell that to canon
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>>108485041
while GitS and Akira are amazingly animated they are the outliers not the erule
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>>108485077
Because they have one in their pocket at all times. The consumer market isn't that relevant for this discussion.
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>>108485077
Normalfags aren't buying shitty digital cameras, but people into photography are still buying pro gear.
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https://youtu.be/tvwPKBXEOKE?si=oUVJsn3UNqWgFusu

I think there are many things that cause today's movies to look like shit and digital vs film is only a small piece of it. The video points out numerous things that are different today that cause films to look awful. If directors worked on fixing all of those instead of filming the same slop on film it'd improve things far more than just switching to film.
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>>108485112
Digital cameras did not decline at all. They just come bundled with another device that surpassed the sales of both standalone digital cameras and film cameras combined many times over. Even poor people who could never dream of having a digital camera or a computer to plug one into now have a smartphone. Also you're pretty slow on the uptake. I'm not sure if you should be trusted with a firearm.
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>>108485186
Your posts make a great case for the narrative of the decline of the American educational system. No child left behind? Bullshit, your district probably blew it's whole budget on t he football team.
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>>108485244
>Americans
>Race
Oh god it's retarded
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>>108484444
checked

quads of truth
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>>108483740
>vinyl sounds better than CD (it doesn't)
oh no, it's retarded
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>>108485244
>we
>back
lol
even if space is real (it's not), (You) will never go there :)
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>>108485280
Here's the part where I go WELL ACTUALLY it depends on how the vinyl or CD was mastered. Botch jobs are possible on either. I prefer CD in most cases but if there is no good digital version, or the tapes are damage, or the tapes don't exist... Then I download a vinyl rip and listen to that instead.
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>>108485282
Juice? Been home for 2 yours now.
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>>108485280
Vinyls are the exact same digital masters as CDs but on an imperfect medium with distortions and noise. Listening to something on vinyl when it's available on CD is like adding an NTSC filter over digital video for nostalgia's sake.
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>>108483748
>while having much more data and resolution to work with
Almost no consumer-grade digital camera has a higher real resolution (as in, not just interpolating extra pixels) than a medium-format film camera. And on sheet film I don't think there's even a single digital camera you can buy that's going to have a higher resolution.

Film has serious drawbacks, annoyances, etc. but one thing it really doesn't struggle with is resolution. In terms of cost, film scales much better than any digital sensor.
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>>108483698
true, real photographers shoot film
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>>108485307
Stupid, just stupid.
Main difference in digital cameras and film cameras is the fact that digital camera has one sensor and in film camera you have many sensors.
All film isn't made equal for mid-sized camera, bigger grain size worse the "resolution" of film camera is. It's not unusual to see high iso film that is just blurry where sharp edges turn into mush.
Nature if film and digital camera is just too different to think of it as resolution
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>>108485302
Not always. Depends on what it is. Old cuts are obviously going to be all analog.
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>>108483698
Digital is always less soulful. And especially in the 00s digital cameras were absolute crap. Why the fuck did everyone just accept the mass adoption of dogshit? Because they suddenly could save money on film? Kodak and other retards with their monopoly should have never let it happen by adjusting to the new market, but instead they chose a slow and painful death like the mismanaged faggot shitholes they were.

Cel anime is more soulful than digital anime.
Movies shot with analog cameras are more soulful than movies shot with digital cameras.
Photos look cooler and are more soulful when they're shot with film.
And so on and so forth.
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>>108485337
it's all edited digitally in post production, retard
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>>108485354
>soulful
meaningless buzzword
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>>108485337
What do you mean? RAW has data of full dynamic range and color. How can it destroy days when it's already there?
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>>108484455
>>108484422
>>108484269
>>108483740
>This is like saying vinyl sounds better than CD
>comparing film to vinyl
most embarrassing shit i've ever read. it's broken anon how his extremely gay analogy is just laughed at. quick! keep spamming the thread and telling people they are poor! lmao
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>>108485331
>Nature if film and digital camera is just too different to think of it as resolution
You can make a rough comparison by using film to take pictures of progressively finer and closer black-and-white bars next to each other, to the point that it gets so fine/close that it all blends into gray. Film producers have technical docs on this and is functionally equivalent to pixels in a digital sensor.
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>>108485358
>He doesn't get it
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>he can't explain it
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>>108483698
you can't even able to get digital versions of movies shot on film without them having serious issues
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>>108483698
I personally prefer the look of film, as well as the fun in shooting analog with its restrictions pushing you to be more considerate and creative.
However, digital can look just as good.
Photography is about creativity, not weather you shoot with expensive/cheap gear, or film/digital, but for me, film helps me be more creative.
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Not true at all lol
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>>108485572
>individual pixles can only pick up red, green or blue
Your eyes also only have 3 types of detectors
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>>108485565
>film and cel sheets are expensive and inconvenient
I get it, but is the convenience of digital cameras and digital art really worth sacrificing the quality/aesthetic over? Painters never went anywhere after photography was invented, even though painting is much much much harder than taking a picture.

>they started introducing film stocks again because everyone has finally admitted digishit looks like ass
That's good. I really hope some company comes out and makes instant analog photos affordable. We need a new Polaroid. Several of them, preferably.
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>>108484189
you're the retard, saar
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>>108484593
you immediately went to "i'll fuck you in the ass raw" without any provocation. you're the fag here. seek help.
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>>108484234
Honest question, what do I need to make photos like that? If anyone has recommendations for cameras or whatever else is needed, I'd love to hear it.
I don't think I'm very good at photography but the way the photo looks in general is so nice
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>>108483720
>for about two decades now
Untrue, sensors with a dynamic range comparable to the best film emulsions were released less than 10 years ago. Not to mention that medium format sensors and lenses are still insanely expensive.
If you have the means to develop at home it is still more economical to buy a medium format analogue camera. 10 years ago you could find a fucking hasselblad for less than $1000.
And obviously there's still no large format digital sensors.
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>>108483698
>digitally drawn and colored anime, western animation and comics
tbf early digital anime upto 2005 or so didn't look too bad
Look at FwPC, Chobits, Monster, Digimon etc.
Not as good as cel animation which was with real paints of course but it looked decent

But since 2006, and especially nowadays it turned into a completely different monstrosity
So much CG and CG pretending to be 2D, layouts being replaced by literal 3D engines, stupid shaky camera, particle effects out the ass, photoshop effects out the ass etc.
It's just disgusting to look at

Even for western cartoons, the final season of Ed, Edd n Eddy looked great even though it was colored in computers
But nu-Calarts bullshit took over with Adveture Time
Wouldn't blame digital in that case
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>>108484330
Grain is an artifact you mouthbreather
There's a digital equivalent of that, it's called digital noise(see Inland Empire)

For objective photography artifacts like grain and noise are unwanted
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>>108484444
>so no source
Nigger kill yourself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb32bj0XmW8
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>>108484512
>analog stores data better
Demonstrably false, analog degrades by its very nature
Any film you've seen you've seen through a digital medium

Digital coloring can look good(late 90s/early 2000s digital anime had decent color), it won't look the same as a photograph of real paints or real ink but that's another thing
If you photographed real animation cels with a very high end HDR digital camera or scanner it would look way better than the way we used to do it with film
Too bad they phased out cel animation, with modern digital cameras we could have had the best of both worlds
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>>108485031
That's not subjective
Akira mogs whatever trash anime you enjoy
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>>108483698
>>Digital Cameras
>>look like ass compared to film photos
Depends on the two used. Film beats out digital on the ultra-high end and the low end, but for everything else, digital is best. Especially if you're actually processing your own sensor data instead of being a retard and exporting pngs from the camera directly.
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>>108485572
Pretty sure digital sensors only pick monochrome/luma and add the colors afterwards
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>>108487811
>Film beats out digital on the ultra-high end
No
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kek typical stemcels who are unable to understand art and appreciate aesthetics and think digital is better. "just slap a filter on it lmap"
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>>108483720
The problem is that Kodak and Fujifilm did all the colour grading for them when they used film, now with digital cameras they have to do it themselves and the vast majority of filmmakers clearly suck at it. Some movies legitimately still look like ungraded RAW footage.

https://youtu.be/_V6n9i83wqk
https://youtu.be/0PE6-Vx7KHk
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>>108488207
>art
Color film is the least artistic photographic medium there is. The developing process is completely set in stone so all color grading decisions have already been made by Kodak in the factory. You just set the exposure right and that's it. It has less freedom than either digital raw or monochrome film, it's objectively the most corporate form of photography around.
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>>108488313
>and the vast majority of filmmakers clearly suck at it.
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>>108484357
>hollywood blockbusters look like ass now
That's because they are only 2K.
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>>108483698
It doesn't make things worse, cheap productions do.
Cannes doesn't accept Netflix produced "films" because they are not classified as cinema.
It's a matter of priorities. Most companies are happy to produce shit what looks like cheap soap operas.
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>>108488207
>just slap a filter on it
that's what you're doing by deliberately choosing an inferior format. you want your pictures to look "like film", which is no different to someone using a film effect filter
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>>108490031
cope
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>>108483698
maybe.. maybe not..

this is literally the only difference that matters but also kinda a big difference
no amount of color correction matrix can fix this
especially under light sources with wide or dirty spectrum like daylight or fluorescent
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>>108490168(me)
the solution would be x-prism based 3 sensor system where you can swap designed filters or the prism itself out but iirc no company makes such stuff
and also the different does not specifically mean film is superior
it is more likely people will associate the specific feel with better films with greater traditional value and craft went in, let alone good directors who die for film because of personal reasons, not purely technical where it creates a bias
unironically with the current digital camera hardware the best way to replicate the film color feel is machine learning based methods
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reminds me of the people repulsed by high frame rate video as they subconciously associate it with low quality tv shows (like soap operas).
makes me sad we might never advance beyong 24fps. 8k, hdr, 3d... 24fps. it makes me want to honk my nose
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have you set irfanview photo-cd resolution
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If you can't take a good picture on a $200 digital camera that is very much a you problem
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>>108487801
Who Made Me a Princess
Has better story, better animation and overall better anime. Prove me wrong you can't.
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>>108491465
Objectively better than Akira. So if you have something to complain about know Akira is worse in that aspect.
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>>108491483
Objectively better, no room for debate.
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>>108491636
I'm objectively correct. I have objective truth on my side. Sucks to suck.
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>entire argument is >muh chinese cartoons
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The nice thing about vinyl is the massive album art. I've noticed some recent releases cheap out though and don't have the insets with all the lyrics and credits like CDs used to have though.

Also the only reason CDs aren't cool to collect is that they're functionally identical to the stuff you listen to on Apple Music or streaming services. CDs obviously sound great and loudness war artifacts aside have aged extremely well. Its sad that digital music is still being crippled by mp3s, low streaming quality and Bluetooth.
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akira is GOAT, specially made for cinema, I've seen it in the cinema, and it doesn't stand out as a I thought it would
there are certain directors that make film shine through impressive photography, those are rare
but one thing is certain, OP is a faggot and doesn't have half a clue of what he is talking about
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>>108491465
I have the perfect excuse. I'm hospitalized and I don't have anything but my phone at hand, so I can't upload my pictures
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>>108484634
"look better" is not an objective argument, it's a subjective preference. I'd say you should quote some numbers but considering your opinion on "digital", they clearly scare you.
>implying any version of these movies you could watch in the past 20 years was actual analog film and not digitized
lunacy
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>>108489812
>but it's more feature rich than older used cameras and in theory should last longer
What, in your opinion, makes it overpriced?
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with film and other analog arts you had to get it right then and there which required real professionals. digital exists because it's faster and cheaper and while it finally can look as good it's not really any cheaper if you want it to actually look good because you still need to hire expensive professionals.
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>>108491896
You can edit negatives just as well as you manipulate raw. This idea that analogue people have more talent will always be funny to me.
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>>108485229
>>108485271
nah, that's you, thirdie
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>>108484750
>>108484883
retarded tranny



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