Where does nostalgia for old hardware come from?I was there. I was using it. It was shit.
>>108484844I'd rather have old shit made by white men and whiteish japs than plastic crap. My model m can slap your mother's fat ass and not break.
>>108484844I still play a lot of games I played as a kid. I also like playing them on period correct hardware. Even when I emulate I still use at least a CRT. It's more about the experience IMO than nostalgia even, there's plenty of games I enjoy from that era I didn't play as a kid either.
>>108484844Hardware these days might be better but literally everything else is worse.
>>108484886No, it's not. I remember how unreliable and slow everything was.
>>108484905It is. Communities? Worse. Content? Worse. People? Worse by average.
>>108484905Sounds more like poorfagotry. I had a high end machine and broadband in 2000.
>>108484844It might have been shit but imagine if it evolved instead of everything being encapsulated by smart phones. By the late 2000s/early 2010s it was even good but became antiquated.
>>108484844>It was shit.That's relative. I was amazed the first time I saw something downloading at 70KB/s on the Internet some 25 years ago. It was on an iMac, at school. Everything was new and godly.
>>108484911And it was still slow as fuck.Things started to get better (again: slowly) with introduction of Intel Core 2.
>>108484951It was very snappy. Dual 1GHz P3 with Win2000 and 15k RPM SCSI HDD. Have a similar machine in storage, just as snappy.
>>108484951t. tech illiterate
>>108484971>HDD>snappyJust shut up. You're delusional.
>>108484987Lol you probably haven't even used any old hardware recently with period correct software
>>108484987Ok retard.
>>108484844It was not the capability of the hardware, it was more who was using it at the time.Before the advent of the smart phone (or AOL) the internet was like a globally connected secret society for nerds or at least people above 120 IQ. I can't even begin to describe how precious that was; and now it's gone, like tears in rain.
>>108484844back when titties were real titties
>>108485043and all they did was jerk off to 7 of 9, the real tragedy was the death of flash
>>108484905skill issue
>>108484844Shit performance but soulful designAlso, performance issues made sense, nowadays computer lags for no meaningful reasons like a text editor being actually a browser
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>>108484844Man I wanna titfuck her
>>108484905Depends on what you are talking about. SNES games loaded very quickly. A few games didn't even include asshole unskippable company logo screens and you could just instantly start playing. Meanwhile my 386 was slow as shit. First 486 was faster but still slow. Meanwhile Playstation was slowing things down in the console world, training players to tolerate long loading transitions. Windows 2000 was very fast, with a clean, responsive, uncluttered UI. XP was really ugly and bubbly but still-- anything that was slow always had a reason for being slow.Modern apps are slow becuase they are programmed by retards working for even bigger retard project managers running agile dogshit and all working as part of the surveillance capitalism frenzy to monetize attention and brainwash people.Since web 2.0, software has increasingly been built on layers and layers of garbage, with soiguzzling 'software evangelists' cheering every step of the way.
>>108484844Zoomers are all about vibes and aesthetics. Doesn't matter that they are completely made up and at odds with reality.
>>108485240What funkopops and 80s/90s pop culture references are to Millennials is feigned nostalgia to Zoomers.
>>108485131Exactly.Loading a huge amount of data, etc. I remember seeing crazy ghosting artifacts trying to run a 3D game on an outdated gpu and underpowered power supply.Granted, I did use some apps that were slow in the manner if modern software. Usually Java apps written for enterprise software. Peregrine Service Center, for example.
>>108485240You know 25-30 year olds (zoomers) were around for this stuff right? I grew up with a pentium 4 machine and it felt fast up until around 2010 when the web started to get a lot heavier.
>>108485362If you count the 1996-1999 micro generation as the same category as post 2005 zoomers? Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. They have absolutely nothing in common but yeah they're zoomers.
>>108484844Running on the metal is fun and 8-bit pixel shit is an evergreen style, the sid chip it's own instrument, and the c64u has analog video output which modern computers simply cant do anymore which makes the aforementioned pixel shit actually look nice and not all pixelated. The c64 ultimate really is a great device everyone should buy and learn basic with.
>>108484844that's just how shit modern "webapps" are making old shit look good by comparison, I was there too
>>108485226>uncluttered UI. XP was really ugly and bubbly but still-- anything that was slow always had a reason for being slow.>Modern apps are slow becuase they are programmed by retards working for even bigger retard project managers running agile dogshit and all working as part of the surveillance capitalism frenzy to monetize attention and brainwash people.do you really think things have changed that much in 20 years?
>>108485362I grew up with a top-tier 486 dx/2 66mhz that dad built in early 1993 (right before the pentium 1 came out) and we used it until 2005
>>108484844Basically this >>108485043It's more about the environment and person you were at the time. It doesn't matter how close to SW/HW emulation I can get with a C64. I will never again be a teenager running around town on my bike to use FastHackem on rented titles at my friends house, who had 2 1541 drives on ,8 and ,9, and could copy disks without having to swap drives, so that I would have my own 5.25" floppy version to play at home after I did my homework. That doesn't make what's available now any worse or better. It's just impossible for it to scratch that itch.
retards mythologize old stuff all the timeNo one fucking liked CRT's outside of some weirdos they fucking RAPED your eyes
>>108484844Me on the right
Is there any decent use for old computers? As in ones from the 80s/90s, not a 10 year old laptop or something still relatively modern. For instance I have this old Tandy PC I found a while back. It looks cool so I kept it, but realistically there's nothing I can actually do with it. Not like I have any reason to boot up DOS and start typing up text files to store on floppies.
>>108485823when a webshitter tries to gaslight you about the speed of them you can go see for yourself that they're lying
>>108485701LCDs were better for productivity and reading text and the like, and allowed for larger screen sizes, but holy shit when it comes to media like videos and games, we didn't know how good we had it with CRTs
>>108485043>Before the advent of the smart phone (or AOL) the internet was like a globally connected secret society for nerds or at least people above 120 IQ.
>>108485946Dorian was right tbqh
People here forget that if you lived outside a major city or grew up in a poorer family people tended to update tech way slower. Just because something came out on paper on a certain date doesn't mean everyone bought it on that date. VHS was technically "obsolete" by 1999 but many people I know used VHS through the 2000s. Many people in my rural area used dial up through the 2000s and only switched to shitty 3mbps "broadband" in 2012.
>>108485043>it was more who was using it at the time.>secret society for nerds or at least people above 120 IQ.So much this. Even this sight harkens back to a time when the internet was mostly used to communicate through text. Images that seem miniscule today were considered large, and posting an HD image could get you banned simply for spam.
>>108485971True, same with things like vidya consoles. For instance I was born in 91 but I grew up with just a nintendo, since I got it as a hand-me-down. Didn't get a current-gen console until 2004 with the gamecube.
>>108484844It's mostly just kids who are nostalgic for a time they weren't alive yet. I bet it's some retarded tiktok trend spawning all these CRT fags. I was there, I used one too, and I couldn't be happier when I switched to an IPS because CRTs are a dogshit, cumbersome tech.
>>108485971Bro, I knew millionaires that had shitty satellite late into the 2010s because they lived outside the city. Half of my family still rocks satellite dishes because they're out in the sticks.
>>108486032We had tons of CRTs at home. Dad was repairing them for others. We kept a lot of them in the basement. There was a rat in the basement that was shitting on them. After we found where it came from we set up something to kill him. CRT were normal for us. I don't mind a CRT. We have got 19 inch LG LCD. I didn't thought about screen quality, but old games with sprites looked better on old monitor.
>>108485043So it's all a delusion of people who tricked themselves they'd be smarter than their grandma with alzheimers for their entire lives? Tell me something I haven't already known.
>>108485946>fake image to prove a retarded pointMany such cases!
It was capable of supporting the content available at the time. It's no different than today. Fucking retards.
>>108487019this post makes zero sensecope and seethe thirdie boi
>>108484905This is something that zoomers get wrong, some millennials with a survivorship bias too (hurr durr but my SNES still works!). New motherboards and PSUs are significantly higher quality and much more reliable, HDDs are less relevant but modern HDDs are also more reliable. >>108484987My Athlon XP machine booted from pressing the power button to the XP desktop in 25 seconds, I have the video I recorded over 20 years ago uploaded somewhere.
>>108487576the biggest issue with early 00s hardware was the cap plague, replace the bad ones with polymers and your shit is gonna work for longer than you'll be alive as long as temps are kept reasonable
>>108484844>everyday things get worst>previous data points always better than the one after it>extrapolate>past was paradise
>>108488566It's not just the capacitor plague, they simply weren't as well made, I'm talking late 90s early 00s.Modern motherboards are overengineered, but you actually have good audio with no interference, generally good bug-free chipsets, and overspecced power delivery circuitry.When motherboard audio became a thing the first iterations were horrible, you'd hear a buzzing noise every time you moved your mouse (if it was connected via USB), serious problems with ATi and Nvidia chipsets and so on.
>>108484844That's a man.
>>108484844Old hardware reminds some people of the times when they were happy. It's a coping mechanism for their currently unhappy lives.
>>108484844i was there too, a nintendo gamecube was built like a brick. so were 40 inch vacuum TVs with thick glass screens. people miss the fact that these items lasted, they miss the creativity that the tech bottlenecks enforced. what we have now is more powerful but built worse.
>>108484844Old wardware sucked because of how quickly it went obsolete. I had a Pentium 3, 128 mb RAM and Riva TNT2 in 1999 which was an extremely solid hardware by that time. Guess what, two years later in could barely run GTA3 on minimum settings, and one year after the GTA Vice City refused to launch alltogether. Within 3 years you went from from riches to rags. This shit absolutely sucked.
>>108484844I bet you weren't in the 90s before they made all the games heavily 3D. Your first PC was probably an XP machine in midst of all the GPUs getting obsolete every two years.
>>108484844It being worse is the point. Hardware has become too good to the point it dominates life.Take me back when it was just a few nerds online and pur parents telling us to get off the phone/computer.
>>108484844milk... milkkk mMIILMMMMIILLKKKKKKKKKKK
Someone post that video of an old computer instantly opening a program
>>108489156It got better soon enough, hardware you got in mid 2000's would serve you well into early 10's.But those initial jumps felt crazy for sure. This is in part why people had such wild fantasies about how cool the future would be. Because what they've seen was explosive growth.It only really slowed down in 20's.
>>108485946>smart people pretending to be retarded
>>108487576>PSUs are significantly higher quality and much more reliableWhat?
>>108485946This is after AOL.
>>108489607He's not wrong. You're talking about the no-name mystery meat gray box power supplies from back before 80 plus certification was even a thing versus a current 80 plus platinum psu
A lot of old tech could be repaired... it wasn't without problems but it was also much better for ownership. Buttons were always better than touchscreens. My 2004 ipod still works, with a new battery, and I still use it.
>>10848963580 plus cert is fake and gay, it exists to collect cuts, not to actually prove anything.Old PSUs were good, not overpowered, because hardware was behaving more even, without any power consumption jumps.There was no need for such certifications back then. It is today when you have a PC that can in theory consume 1200W, but actually idles at 50W, but PSU still consumes 150W, the manufacturer brags about certs. Back then it just consumed 150W without all this bullshit.
>>108484844You'll be nostalgic in 2036 when you won't be able to own new hardware.
>>108489667I mean also back then even a high end rig would have a 350 watt psu
