>>108486585
Fuck Warren McFarlan?

>>108486585
>things can change decade to decade
Wew

>>108486585
Deepseek wasn't an innovation tho.
They just stole it and gave it away for free to undermine the US

>>108486593
Only if feminine enough , hairless and hourglass.

>>108486585
What does a whale flipping a boat with a bunch of UE Mannys have to do with China?

>>108486611
Boo hoo, you mfs undermined the whole world for decades

>>108486623
never said otherwise

>>108486611
>YOU STOLE MY OUTPOOTS!
How do you steal uncopyrightable AI drivel?

the idea that chinese are smart but can't innovate is the idea from some 18th century racist authors who have never been China

>>108486617
Deepseek R1 a while back

>>108486645
China took advantage of the openness of the US AI environment to drain enough data to replicate their models at a fraction of the cost.

I colloquially refered to this as stealing, but you're correct, no actual theft occurred.

>>108486666
the mantra has always been why innovate when you can copy?
It will take decades to reconfigure that mindset

>>108486611
DeepSeek invented the whole reasoning model

>>108486678
Tfw no chinese gf software engineer that pays for my dinner at outback with the fat stacks she gets from her wfh job as lead of a small startup funded by xi's spies to infiltrate the american ai economy

>>108486678
>took advantage of the openness
Then why give something away if you aren't willing to lose it?

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>>108486687
That has never been the mindset.
The Chinese didn't come up with a ton of inventions in the last century simply because their industry wasn't that developed yet.

Japan did the same fucking thing of copying shit until their industry progressed enough to make their own shit.

>>108486678
>lean how to do things from others
>its stealing
Entire entire human society is based off of learning and teaching from others

>>108486603
Okay, I guess India will be the global hegemon in a decade.

>>108486689
Nope, US had the reasoning model first, but tried to keep it under wraps because they thought it was their special sauce.

>>108486703
Sorry but you have to pay us rent to use our intellectual property for eternity.

>>108486585
It was a myth that China couldn't innovate even back then.
Look at any scientific journal published since 2014 and see how many non-Chinese names you can find in it.

>>108486703
I clarified in my second post it indeed wasn't stealing. My mistake

>>108486704
>He doesn't know

https://x.com/Alibaba_Qwen/status/2038641496455557565

>>108486706
There were various approaches deepseek took not just the using tokens to think\ before answering thing. They said some research at the periphery were similar but not the main ones.
I don't think we would have progressed this quickly if the research and models weren't made public they did more work for AI than the us companies trying to milk it. Euros would be having a hard time right now if it weren't for them.

>>108486687
They have 1.4b people. You're delusional if you think no one can innovate. They only need a hundred people with ideas, not millions.

>>108486611
>>108486678
>niggers fell for the bait
>twice!
Sad

>>108486703
but chinks are subhumans according to typical US clown?

i hate journalists so much it's unreal

>>108487058
However much you hate them it isn't enough.

>>108486585
Turns out top down government managed capitalism works better than letting monopolistic entities buy out your elected officials. Who would have thought?

>>108486706
o1 failed to prove it wasn't just Indians in a box, but DS actually did it.

>>108486585
Why is Moby Dock flipping the boat?

>>108488607
>Why is Moby Dock flipping the boat?
Because they were stabbing at he from hell's heart.

>McFarlan began his career at Harvard Business School as a research assistant from 1961 to 1962. He then served briefly as research associate before becoming an assistant professor in 1965 and then an associate professor in 1969.
>In 1973, shortly after appointment to full professor, along with four colleagues, he established Harvard's International Senior Management Program in Switzerland. After his return in 1975, he became chairman of the Advanced Management Program, a position he held until 1978; and chairman of all executive education programs from 1977 to 1980. He later became senior associate dean and director of research from 1991 to 1995, senior associate dean and director of external relations from 1995 to 2000, and senior associate dean and director of Asia Pacific from 1999 to 2004.[1] He continues to teach in the Harvard Business School Executive Programs for Non-Profit Leaders and board members.

LMAO do americans really

>>108486585
Man, you can see how even the art turned soulless in a decade.

>>108486611
>>108486689
False, I was however delighted when the chinks rekt the the wests efforts to gatekeep and create a new market.
If the chinks do anything they need to keep rekting these gate keeping "SaaS you will own nothing" closed eco system fags that slow human technological progess

Why do we have to have these wumao tantrums here? Go cry about it on WeChat or whatever bug people use to communicate. It's proof that the place is so infested they even use it to communicate with each other.

>>108486585
China bought Harvard

>>108486585
for me it's boston dynamics as a whole in full suicide watch

China is dying
2 more weeks bros!

>>108486611 >>108486678
Americans have never invented anything. over 40% of Americans can't even read text and over 60% of Americans are below 6th grade level.

US/Americans stole these innovations and tech from China
>Papermaking
>Printing (Woodblock and Moveable Type)
>Gunpowder
>Magnetic Compass
>Silk Production
>Porcelain/Ceramics
>Tea Culture and Processing
>Agricultural Techniques (crop rotation, irrigation methods)
>Basedbeans and Onions Products
>Rhubarb
>Ginseng
>Kites
>The Wheelbarrow
>The Abacus
>Acupuncture and Traditional Chinese Medicine practices
>Paper Money (concept influencing modern finance)
>The Iron Plow
>The Seed Drill
>The Harness Collar (for horses)
>Stern-mounted Rudder
>Watertight Compartments (shipbuilding)
>The Crossbow
>Cast Iron production techniques
>Natural Gas drilling (bamboo pipelines)
>Seismoscope (early earthquake detection)
>Porcelain insulation (early electrical use)
>Tungsten filament technology (early contributions)
>Modern Lithium-Ion Battery supply chains and refinements
>High-Speed Rail construction technology (influencing US planning)
>5G Telecommunications infrastructure (limited adoption)
>Drone manufacturing technology (e.g., DJI)
>Solar Panel manufacturing technology
>Rare Earth Element refining processes
>Artificial Intelligence large language models (growing influence)
>E-commerce live-streaming models
>Mobile Payment ecosystems (QR code based)
>Super-app concepts (integrating multiple services)
>Shared Bicycle systems
>Electric Vehicle battery supply chains
>Critical Mineral processing technologies

>>108486611
they copied what the US stole and gave it away for free*
china is robin hood

>>108486585
I always found the
>they cannot innovate!
cope retarded.
They had no need to innovate because they were trying to catch up on decades of development. That was knowledge which already existed and was available for basically free, all they had to do was implement it.
There'd be little reason to innovate at that point and slow down your progress.

>>108491497
>Basedbeans
China can keep the goybeans. The only thing those are good for is biomass to be refined into industrial products or [Based] sauce (which is kinda based ngl).

>>108486689
It was invented by some anon on /lmg/ with miku.sh