are pc speakers still a thing? i don't want to wear headphones on my head all day like some call center employeebut when i search for PC speakers there are barely any for saleam i supposed to drop hundreds of dollars on an audio interface and some proper speakers or is there some middle ground
>>108487257> those speakersMan those take me back to 1992.There's plenty of them out there, both USB and AC powered, and they plug into your headphone jack. Literally pages of them on Amazon. You can even buy them at lmao Five Below.
>>108487257there's a shit ton out there unless you really want that office machine vibe, in which case there'd be a buttload more.
>>108487257This is now a PC audio thread since OP is a baiting faggot. I bought these cheap POS for my roller workstation; they are clamped in place on the sides of the roller. All high freq response output; they have large magnets and there are 3D printed cases you can dump them into to pick up the bass response but they are small and idgaf about sound quality... if I wanted better I'd throw on the headphones I have hanging off the roller.
Yes. You need to just search for studio monitors though.
>>108487257Just get a mini soundbar like this which has a 3.5mm input
>>108487257>middle groundGet some old speakers and a stereo amp (now they sell mini amps, haven't looked into it but it's better than nothing if you can't find a good one for cheap)
>>108487257> an audio interface 99% of devices already have best of the best hardware, it became cheap and abundant, no reason to overspend, only music recording studio people need some of that, for neiche features required for creation, not consumption.> proper speakers Around $200. Cheap but good is probably around 100. Fancy premium ones have no upper price limit at all, since it's art and audiophilia territory.>>108487689Trash, dispose of them, look over here: >>108487729>>108487773Bars are gay.
>>108487773That Creative one sounds like shit btw
>>108487257>am i supposed to drop hundreds of dollars on an audio interface and some proper speakers or is there some middle groundLook at 3.5-4.5studio monitors, they're designed to work without an interface. Just don't get KRK Rokit monitors, they really aren't suitable for use as PC speakers. >>108487729Edifier are also a reasonable option if you really don't want to spend money.
>>108487257I bought last Christmas a pair for not even $30. 3.5mm connect, USB powered. Works fine.
I was looking for something that would work well for both a DAW setup and casual music listening.Since I have limited space, traditional studio monitors didn’t seem like the best option.I went to the store intending to buy the Adam Audio D3V, especially since it was discounted, and I tested it. I also tried the IK iLoud Micro—and to my surprise, I really liked them. Cheap also.If you’re planning to use them only on a desk, they’re definitely worth considering. Really good shit.
>>108488289>Cheap also.They're like 300 EUR where I live lol wtf
>>108488312That's what I paid. In audio terms in cheap, and you are getting a good product which should last a long time
>>108488336Nah it's a lot of money for 3" monitors i.e. glorified PC speakers.The Eris 3.5 are 91 EUR in Amazon, they might not be as good, but at least they're reasonably priced.
if you want a decent sound and don't mind the bulky unit, you can get shit like this literally for free.
>>108487257>am i supposed to drop hundreds of dollars on an audio interface and some proper speakers or is there some middle groundYou want to google, powered stereo bookshelf speakers.
Yep. You can pair them with a 20W Lepai amp for decent audio level when the head unit dies. I've a set of Aiwa bookshelf speakers in garage that I kept after the Aiwa head unit finally died.
you can just get bookshelf speakers since compact amps exist.
>>108487857>Trash, dispose of them, look over hereas always>person needs some speakers to use 1% of the time when they are not wearing headphones just to watch a youtube video and don't have much space on their desk>retard claims they must purchase 100$+ bulky studio monitors and nothing else will work for that purposelike fine maybe those 9$ speakers are really dogshit but a pair of pebbles or something similar will definitely suffice, no need to be an audiophool dickhead about it.
When I see threads like this I realize this board is completely fucking useless. ONE guy gave him a reasonable response, everyone else told him to do what he explicitly said he didn't want.
>>108487257go to best buyask where the pc speakers arebuy themits that shrimple
>PC speakersI just get bookshelf speakers and a DACBut I'm keeping my eyes on this one for a bedroom TV. I don't want a soundbar but these have hdmi earc. I just hope the price isn't too retarded.
i've been using the same bose speakers for years now. it has multiple audio in ports as well and i use one of the extra ports to plug in a bluetooth adapter (TaNix-09) to let me use it wirelessly as well. no complaints so far
>>108488794that's how you end up with something like thishttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/ChXAt65wxtgGet these, 1st gen, 100 bucks.
>>108487257I hope so
>>108487257You choices are-logitech garbage-creative pebbles-edifier something -simple dac + bookshelf speakers- audio interface + more expensive bookshelf speakersEdifier exists just for this market alone and they've done a decent enough job at it. Why the industry has let this one company have an entire market segment to themselves I dunno
>>108488499and how do I connect this to the pc
>>108488883via optical out or mini plug -> RCA
>>108487257I just use a pair of Pioneer 3-way 6x9 car speakers inside fiber filled speaker enclosures, running out of a janky Chinese mini amp connected to my aux out. Any other way of doing PC speakers is a meme.They're a bit wanting at sub-bass frequencies so you might want to work a subwoofer into your setup if you listen to music with a lot of 20Hz sweeps but above that they're all you'll ever need. If you wanted to get really fancy you could swap to 1-way or 2-way and then use filters to send out different frequency ranges to more suitable speaker sizes. But I find like I said the 3-way 6x9 only ever fails at those really low sweeps. For gaming, music, watching shows, it's just so fucking crisp. Ditch the plastic bullshit. A good sound system is built, not bought and it's really easy too it's like any other constructive hobby, all the shit you need exists and it's just a matter of getting what you need and piecing it together.
>>108487257There are plenty, but you have the choice between fair priced ones with a terrible sound and expensive ones with a bad sound. Good sounding ones are not a thing anymore, because... because.
>>108488766Audiophiles gonna audiophile. And be dicks about it. Nothing new. >>108488790Also nothing new. OP hasn't exactly checked back in. >>108488941lol I haven't seen a set of 6x9s in forever. Had them in a 60's Mustang years ago. They are great for up to 70's rock, but 80's music and onward with tape and CD inputs need more bass than you can get from just those.
>>108488766The $9 speakers are dogshit, but for listening to some stupid YT nonsense when I don't want to turn on my BT headphones is exactly what they get used for. Look at those sweet custom 3D printed mounts, holding those crapping things in place.Mmmm. So convenient.
>>108489093>Also nothing new. OP hasn't exactly checked back in.i'm back, i was out for the day. i mean getting proper monitor speakers like some anons suggested would be fine cost wise, i just don't like how much space they take up on the desk. had a bad experience with the mini soundbar from creative that >>108487773 suggested, not exactly the same one but it was from them and was total garbage. would need to manually turn it on every PC boot, the sound coming out would randomly pitch down sometimes, or get fuzzy until they were restartedi wouldn't mind spending a $100 or more if there was some nice compact solution that fits nicely on the desk and works fine. but it seems quality is a roulette game these days
(op, cont.)>>108488941i'm too low iq for this kind of setup>>108488879will look into edifier, some of their products look promising at first glance
>>108487257i've been using these laid on their side under my monitors for like a decade and they've been more than serviceable
>but 80's music and onward with tape and CD inputs need more bass than you can get from just those.Depends the Genre's you like I suppose.But yeah if the music you listen to has lots of bass sweeps then you just need a subwoofer. But the reality is even a 6x9 will out-bass the fuck out of any plastic PC speaker setup other than the sub woofer which tend to sound pretty gaudy and plasticky on those setups anyway. At the end of the day a good gaming headset does it better for your personal experience, but sometimes just having the sound flooding into the room around you instead of straight into your ears is worth losing bottom end frequency response over. And so that's kind of my logic with the setup- I'll just throw on some headphones if I have a hankering for bass sweeps. I've yet to imagine a setup in my price and "how much I even care about it" range to come up with a setup that does it all acceptably well.
>>108487257SOVL>>108487689soulless
>>108489093If I was OP I would have also bailed on this thread and never looked back. I'm an audio guy anyway, I have two sets of studio monitors, 8s and 5s, each with their own 10 inch sub. In a conversation like this I'd always be tempted to say get some 5 inch studio monitors, but then I remember that everyone else is not me and different people have different needs. But besides all that, I'm not really sure what OP is talking about because if I go to any major electronics retailer or big box store and search 'computer speakers' I get a bunch of options, basically just the modern versions of what he showed there. OP if you are still around would you care to explain what the fuck you are talking about? What's wrong with Logitech Z150 or similar?
i can't wait to pass my 20 year old logitech X-530s down to my kids
>>108487257I use studio monitors as modern day computer speakers.
>>108490090Is there something wrong with it? Why else that smug anime gurl?
>>108490139No? It's just a smile not smug smirk.
>>108490139This is a smug smirk.
>>108490145You are right
>>108487257Audiophile quality without the price. This is literally the only correct choice. I'm shocked to see no one post it yet.
is there any benefit for a 3.1 system over a 2.1 system or is the centre channel not really utilised much with gayming and youtube etc.
>two channel sony stereo + floor standing speakers + 12" powered polk sub I don't know why this spec is so uncommon but I would rather dedicate more room space to speaker than desk space. Nicer ones tend to be plenty bass heavy for smaller rooms too making the subwoofer more of an optional add on.
>>108490223The center channel is used a lot in 5.1 and almost all games support it. Not sure about 3.1. I've never seen a 3.1 surround setting on a game before.
>>108490284I remember when I first got 5.1 and was playing oblivion on an xbox 360 and a kajit growl whispered at me from behind me to my left and I absolutely spazzed in terror because it only came out of that one speaker
>>108489385>T40'svery nice
you can't go wrong with logitech!
>>108490528Kek I had those, I retrofitted actual tweeters into them though.
>>108490562no you didnt
>>108490579It's shit to see here but you can see them bulging out since they were self contained drivers.
>Audioengine A2+, A5+, HD6 These are powered bookshelf speakers that are reasonably priced especially when on sale (there are also passive versions too if you have a DAC/interface etc) which make good PC speakers . The A2+ in particular are a good start and cheap. I have the A5+ Bamboo (the bamboo version bought back before the HD lineup as well as flagship HD6 arrived. These days they even have variants of all the above that include a Bluetooth APT-X chip so you can connect wirelessly from other sources if it matters to you. Audioengine also has a powered subwoofer , the S8, if you want it, for a nice 2.1 system but there are other options.>>108490212kek now those take me back. I didn't even think they were still sold. I actually had the 5.1 version back in the early 2000s; they served very, very well up until they had the power delivery problem that seemed to be common in the lineup and died.
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>>108487257I'm using regular speakers at PC.
>>108490223Unless you're gaming on a projector and have the center channel behind the screen it will be worse. Speakers placed below the ear level always sound worse.
>>108490234I did just that
>>108489385I do the same with the shorter version. I've tried others that are about the same size but they can't compare. Very solid for basic use.
Unironically the razer leviathan v2 is fantastic. Best 3d audio I've heard on a soundbar. Don't get the newest one which has some Ai bullshit built in.
>>108490234>"DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE?" Dumbledore asked calmly at 120dB
>>108491986kek
>>108491986jej
>>108490234Those McIntosh line arrays are so fucking ugly Also what's the point for a home theatre when point source speakers will sound better
>>108487257Creative still makes speakers. I use their "pebble" speakers and they're pretty nice.
>>108492135i don't want to give them any more money after having used their Creative Stage SE mini soundbar.it's a terrible piece of shit that has constant audio bugs and you have to reset it a few times a day
>>108492144actually upon some further research, the audio issues seem to be cause by my motherboard chipset, the Z690 piece of shit. so i take what i said back.
>>108492144Are you talking about the bluetooth one?
>>108492181nah it's the USB connected one. but i clarified in next post that it seems like it's probably my motherboard chipset causing the audio issues
Just buy some cheap chinese shit from amazon with a subwoofer and move on with your life, I don't have time for this right now.
>>108492177Well if your chipset is causing problems then no matter what speakers you choose there are likely going to be issues. I would get a dedicated sound card before buying any speakers.
>>108492196yeah sadly it seems i need to either change mobo or get a sound card. will do some more testing but found posts from other people reporting similar audio issues with Z690i will try different USB ports first as well
>>108492200just get a USB audio interface
>>108487773I have this, not very happy with it.
>>108488859They actually sell a couple of edifier models, so it's not necessarily a disaster.
>>108489385Those look great. I could use a set like that, about 3" wide by however tall, in the limited space I have for speakers on my setup. >>108489520You're right in that, generally, homebuilt audio (boxes+speakers) outshine what you can buy. I've got a set of 12" subs in home-built boxes. They sound awesome. >>108487773Soundbars are fine for replacing TV speakers (which if you've ever looked at them are these tiny thin speakers now) so you can actual understand the dialog. But they need backed by a subwoofer to be usable. >>108491190I would love to set up my gaming rig like that but open floor plan = blasting out the entire house. >>108490750I agree studio monitors are the way to go... if you have the space. This is sort of the ideal physical setup but I don't have that much room.
Buy nice or buy twice. Buy the iLouds
>>108492361>I agree studio monitors are the way to goThose aren't studio monitors...
>>108487257try searching for "active speakers"alternatively look for regular (passive) speakers and some small amplifier
>>108491518daft punk looking mf
>>108492189this doesn't make any sense though... a usb audio speaker is just a regular usb 2.0 device, and it barely uses any bandwidth to transmit audio alsoso why would all your usb ports work perfectly fine but not with audio devices? makes no sensealso why would a sound card fix that? sound cards with usb outputs don't exist (of course), and if you want to connect using a 3.5mm jack you can already do so without buying anything, your motherboard certainly already has a 3.5 mm jackwhat you would need is a pcie - usb card
edifer mr3 for $100 is the overhyped value pick but nothing else at it's price or less is remotely worth itand these are the reasonable endgame choices:iloud microadam d3vkali lp unfkanto ora/ora4 - more "lifestyle" speakers, less treble to make them less fatiguing, but that also means less percieved detaila subwoofer is good but not necessary and not really possible anyway unless your room is huge or you pay for bass traps.bigger is not better. you're just paying for more clean volume. they're for big rooms, parties, events. they really just take up more space, are more cumbersome to position, cost more, and can more easily overwhelm your room which can ruin the sound.treatment is not necessary in a home environment
>>108487257Buy second-hand speakers and amplfier (<100w, even 30w should be fine).Ideally, the amplifier has a TOSLINK input or digital coaxial input, since most motherboards have a pin connection for digital output. Otherwise, a 3.5 mm-to-stereo RCA should do it.
>>108492189if it's connected via USB then why do you think it's the chipset causing audio issues? onboard audio chip only deals with the onboard analogue jacks
>>108488113these are really bad
>>108492810not audio chipset, i believe it's USB controller issues. but don't have time to confirm at the moment as i'm at work
>>108492892buying a speaker without analogue audio input was pretty fucking stupid of you, anon.
>>108492928here's some analog input for you*farts in your face*
>>108492928it was like 25 bucks lol. i know, i get what i pay for.
>>108490528lol this fucking industry
>>108492135I had those they were okay but the USB-C USB-C stopped working so I switched to 3.5mm then the 3.5mm stopped working so I switched bluetooth then the left speaker stopped working and then the bluetooth stopped working.I switched to bookshelf speakers after that.
>>108487257No, but they can supplement proper monitors. I use passive speakers to check my mixes on.
>>108492748>kanto ora/ora4 - more "lifestyle" speakers, less treble to make them less fatiguing, but that also means less percieved detailwhat subwoofer you'd recommend with those?
>>108494357if I was buying the ora(4) and was able to add a subwoofer, i'd probably just get the kanto branded Sub6 or Sub8 and stop caring, keep it simple. redditors spam the RSL Speedwoofer 10E as being a good value though.the real benefit of a subwoofer is that you're freeing up the speakers to focus on frequencies ~100Hz+, which requires much less power. so the sound will be cleaner and the subwoofer will go slightly lower too.a random review of the RSL compared it to the Sub8 https://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/rsl-speedwoofer-10e/#toc-h2-4and had this to say>we most recently reviewed the Kanto sub8. However, it can’t quite be considered the same class of sub since it’s meant for desktop sound systems. That being said, if your desktop system could accommodate a Speedwoofer 10E, that would be pretty powerful bass for that application since the 10E has three times as much output in deep bass below 40Hz as the Kanto sub8subwoofers can get really huge so if you're buying some little 3-4" desktop speakers, most subwoofers like this RSL will be inappropriate.
>>108494596I was considering the sub8 already together with them but if you read into the reviews they tend to recommend the bigger 10" ones as you pointed out but then again a lot of "audiophiles" tend to overdo it. My current setup are some Edifier QR30 with the T5 which is honestly decent but the volume controls are a bit whacky and the LED while looking cool can be a bit distracting. Turning it off looks kinda awkward as well.
>>108494699i think the kantos are more appropriate since they're smaller and sealed. they're made assuming it's for a desktop. the RSL is definitely made more for a home theatre situation
>>108494596I never liked the whole tiny speaker big sub thing. I have 5" monitors and have low cut on most of the time. For desktop use I can hardly imagine people needing 8"s, let alone a dedicated sub.
>>108494847yeah i don't think a subwoofer is even necessary really. if you listen to a lot of bass heavy music then it'd be a bigger change but for most stuff it doesn't seem worth it. these speakers all reach like 60Hz before hitting -3dB on their own, already low enough to get the experience of feeling the sound. the real issue is that you need a huge room and/or bass traps to not have standing waves ruining the sound even at 100Hz, which all of these speakers do by themselves so to add a subwoofer is almost literally a waste of money and space.
>>108494916You don't need bass traps. You need EQ. And if you're optimizing for multiple listening spots you need multiple subwoofers. There is no scenario where having is a sub is worse than not having a sub, if you're willing to do the bare minimum to set it up.
>>108488113i have these and while they are good for normal desktop gaming/listening, they 3.5mm output is weak as fuck.cant even power my 80ohm 770s well. i was somewhat depressed by this.
>>108488793What garbage is this and why does it require toggling some switches to work?
>>108495166the switches are for EQ. desk surface messes with the sound. being a certain distance from the wall messes with the sound. et cetera. all of these good speakers have this
>>108493410Can't you request replacements?>>108495277Interesting, didn't know this.
>>108492144Yeah, I have pic related and it's very bad. It's by far my biggest regret when it comes to computing-related purchases, and I bought lots of shit over the years.
>>108495553I have the USB X-Fi, supposedly rated for audiophiles but it sucks driving 300ohms+ headphones, but hey, for the rest it's pretty goodThe old Asus Xonars beat the shit out of it tho
>>108492135I just bought these and so far they are okay. My Logitech speakers died after 20 years
>>108487257>are pc speakers still a thing?What a question.
>>108492413Says who?
>>108490223A center channel is basically pointless in a nearfield listening position like a desk. Decent speakers properly positioned will produce a phantom center effect.
>>108492135I bought some of these because my Logitech speakers died completely; one still worked but the subwoofer and right speaker just went silent and didn't work for years. These new Creative speakers were much cheaper, but the subwoofer is embarrassingly weak and doesn't do anything at all unless you pick it up and hold your ear to it.I nearly bought some giant Trust speakers instead (https://www.trust.com/en/product/19019-tytan-21-speaker-set-eu) but I didn't because I thought Trust were a shitty brand. It turns out that my webcam that I've had since 2010 is made by Trust and still works fine, so perhaps I was wrong about Trust being terrible.
>>108490750I used to have my PC hooked up to pic related. Those were the days
Head-tracking directional pc speakers when? I don't want other people to hear what I have on.
>>108497600these are all nearfield. you have to be on-axis to really hear it.
>>108496652says JBL
>>108488883Audio in port.
>>108495051>There is no scenario where having is a sub is worse than not having a subTo me, having something I don't need or want is worse than not having it
>>108497600>Head-tracking directional pc speakers when?
>>108489385these used to annoy the fuck out of me with one particular boomy frequency resonating throughout the house, even with bass turned all the way down
What mic do I need to do room EQ?
>>108487729Creative Pebbles are the last real "PC speaker" worth getting and they're meant for cramped desktops where room is a premium.Otherwise just get studio monitors
>>108499252If only there were some way to find a particular resonating frequency. >>108499256Umik-1 is the recommended one. But just to fix room modes you can genuinely use anything, even a phone mic. Accuracy is needed only for full range calibration.
Most studio monitors hiss and suck for desktop use. You can get a passive speaker setup with absolutely no hiss for around $200.
>>108499292it wasn't an issue of finding the frequency. i was being tortured with it through the ceiling when somebody else was using the speakers.
>>108496782And phantom center is a much cooler effect. It's like speakers themselves disappear. Center is only necessary for home theater really, so people on the sides still perceive the sound as coming from the center.
>>108499326Oh, that sucks.
>>108489385nice i got some t30s off ebay like a year or 2 ago they sound pretty decent, needed some speakers that woudnt mess up my crt, they dont really make any with shielding anymore
