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This major is only worth it if you're like the top 10% of candidates while the rest of the 90% of CS graduates will end up working at McDonald's. All your hopes and dreams, all your effort towards this major, all of it flushed down the shitter while stuck with thousands of dollars of debt.

It's over, every normie in this field is utterly fucked.
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jam boy doomer thread
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>>108491230
>delete my phone number
>turn my phone's location off permanently
>so no one can trace me
>cs graduate
maybe i'm not too stupid for uni. how can you be this tech illiterate with a cs degree?
>no parents
>yall
sounds black too
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>>108491264
Expecting someone with a CS degree to know basic things about technology, privacy, tracking, etc. is like expecting a middle schooler to know how to do taxes and invest in stocks. They do not teach you anything on purpose.
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>>108491264
Yeah what the fuck. What an absolute retard. No wonder he can't find a job.
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>>108491280
You would expect people going for a CS degree to be somewhat passionate about computers. Just because something isn't part of the curriculum doesn't mean that students shouldn't know it.
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>>108491264
>sounds black
what you're "hearing" is the mating call of the libtards
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>>108491884
I wouldn't expect that because most only do it because they think they'll get 500k
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Is learning coding just because you think it's cool a stupid hobby to get into in this day and age?
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>>108492183
my approach has always been "goal first" then take the path of least resistance.
As a result I used Game Maker for 10 years, lmao. That was the easiest way to make a game. Then later I learnt Godot/GDScript, and now with AI I regularly edit C++/TypeScript projects and I've used a dozen other languages.
But back to the point, I think you should decide what you want to accomplish first.
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>>108491230
this is a weak man
it has nothing to do with majoring in computer science
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>>108491230
I graduated in 2001 dotcom bust with csci degree.
Started unloading trucks in a warehouse.
Then took a night shift in a datacenter, got some experience using active directory, exchange, unix and networking. Eventually got frustrated with how retarded and locked down everything was in windowsland and started looking for unix/Linux jobs (applied all over-- startups, bigcorps, universities, etc). Also built a portfolio of work to share in interviews. Finally got a unix job around 2007. Role would be call devops today but that retarded meme term hadn't spread yet.
It took 5 years of suffering to catch a break.
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I am doing computer science right now but live with my parents
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>>108491230
Fucking pathetic, take the Home Depot job and either wait for the bubble to pop or put some effort into re-training for a real trade.
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>>108492563
>implying people will start writing code by hand again when the bubble pops
it's over for most code monkeys
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>>108491230
It's literally like 10 courses different from an electrical engineering degree. Just transfer the credits and take a year of electrical engineering if you're that concerned.
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>>108492563
Beggers being choosers.
I was luckily able to find a job straight out of college when all the layoffs were starting, but I was fully prepared to apply for stocking retail again if I didn't have a job lined up. I don't have the opportunity to live with parents/family either, so I really needed a job.

Actually how did this guy have so much loan debt? Having no parents guarantees max pell grant payouts. I managed to graduate with no loans and no parents paying for me.
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>>108492615
75k is very doable if you're stupid. 6k a semester for the classes at a state school, 12 with housing, that's ~96k for 4 years if you did that. That's why you should do community college for as many classes as possible and then transfer for the last 2 or just do an online degree mill for the BS and then just do 2 years of a masters at an overpriced school for the name to be on your cv.
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>>108491230
Good. Normies destroyed computer science. CS is just getting started in terms of a theory.
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>>108494477
abso-fucking-lutely.
the 5-10 coming years in which all sub-140IQ people will have been displaced from the industry yet the replacement by the machines won’t be complete will be beautiful
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heh i'm doing a free CS degree because my employer pays. still a waste of time. the curriculum design is fettered by "accreditation". i never wanted a tech job. just doing this to maintain my pre frontal cerebral context. discrete math isn't too bad, its a nice distraction.
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>>108495337
*cortex
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>>108491247
fpbp
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>>108492554
Does this pay well compared to SWE etc? Do you think Linux dev/admin/ops jobs are more resistant to AI than other tech roles?
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>>108491230
Guy sounds like a whiny little bitch.
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>wahhhhhhhh i cant sit on my ass and get paid to press buttons for 2 hours
get a real job
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>>108492220
well, it's related
for a while there these retards were making it through CS degrees and still getting jobs, somehow. much to the detriment of whoever employed them
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>>108492612
How hard is it to pivot to EE as a CS major?
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>>108492612
Fuck off we’re full
EE jobs are getting harder to find
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>>108491230
codetrannies are the perfect example of useful idiots
>make $200k/yr to write a few hours of code a week
>design "better" tools (frameworks, libraries, etc.) to make coding more idiot friendly
>suddenly indians have the requisite IQ to do the absolute bare minimum
>design "intelligent" software that can do coding for you (LLMs)
>suddenly computers can do entry level work
>job market totally collapses
>wtf how could this happen to me????
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>>108491230
Good, it's just getting back to what it was 10 years ago before it attracted all the normies and foids
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>>108495705
Nothing is immune to jeetification. I think people are... badly predicting the effects of AI but at the moment, operations work isn't as easy to just point a handful of Claude agents to churn out solutions. And maybe you're building the clusters running the AI models, etc.

A I've had co-workers switch to SWE, also had one come to operations from development. He just liked the work better, was really into hardware and OS stuff.

My advice for a long time has been to have some kind of "domain knowledge" beyond programming. You need to be an expert or at least competent in some field other than programming, whether it's banking or biology or law etc. Operations is just a very software-adjacent domain that's usually easy for CS types to get into. (It's often looked down on by "real" programmers nevermind it's a webshitter who can't deploy anything that isn't dockerized)



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