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Remember this guy? It's been 13 years. Was it worth it?
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he definitely posts here
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Just imagine what this shit looks like now with the help of Palantir and Anthropic
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>Was it worth it?
No. The masses deserve nothing.
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>>108491847
Nope, the threw away his life for nothing.
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qubesos biggest cope
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>>108491847
for him. no.
normies dont care about privacy. people who do care are paranoid tinfoils who have dubious porn tastes that the glowies dont care about
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>>108491869
The clearest signal of Reddit's userbase shifting from the original largely male and young libertarians to the current foid-heavier middle aged normalfag mainstream Democrat voters in the late 2010s is how they flipped on people like Snowden or Julian Assange
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>>108491847
Yes. I remember Edward Snowden, and the Epstein files situation only confirms what he stands for that the US/Israeli governments are corrupt
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>>108491869
and people complain how much 4cuck glows
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>>108491847
Don't remind me. It's way too sad.
Same as with Julian. Too bad the world is so shitty that people spilling the actual truth had to seek help there. I've seen his profile, he basically sold his name to KGB, unironacally. Maybe he does not care anymore and just enjoys life with his family somewhere away from crowds, close to nature. But it's still far from a happy end.
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>>108491847
It was a fake story. And the guy's advises for anonymity: use a honeypot OS and (((Tor))). Don't listen to him.
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>>108491961
There is bop such thing as a government that isn't corrupt. All governments are corrupt
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>>108492236
>>108492252
Greetings to India
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>>108492259
Found the retarded peephole tranny serial killer
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>>108492268
pedophile*
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We only understand the severity of the problems facing us because of his sacrifice. He should not have fled the country, however. He should have faced his due punishment with dignity.
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>>108492310
Manning did that and look how he ended up
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>>108491913
It's actually 90% teenage Indians and Indonesians now but nice try I guess
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>muh ebil US gubmint
>flees and becomes a russian citizen
yeah he seems trustworthy
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>>108491913
I remember when Ellen Pao came in and banned some subs like (I think) r/fatpeoplehate or r/watchpeopledie and the userbase revolted and had her out in like a month. Today, there are subreddits dedicated to brigading any other sub that isn't sufficiently pro-transgender and getting them removed.
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>>108491847
He didn't expose anything useful. He could have looked into Epstein and his clients.
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>>108491869
You must be naive to think that public comments in your newspaper's comment section, on youtube etc are made by real humans.
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>>108491847
no
ruined his life for nothing
OG kwab
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>>108491847
Could be rich if he didn't reveal things, honestly no clue what he was thinking, you can't beat the government with words.
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>>108491913
I was there when the canary was lifted, I saw it die, 4chan died too btw, the average user here is an election tourist or zoomer.
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>>108491847
I think we still know very little about the extend of thee mass surveillance and about how it is used.
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>>108492483
He was trapped in Russia by the US gov, Russia didn't want him. He tried to flee to ecuador but his passport got revoked in the hours after he landed in Russia. A very simple machination to antagonize both Snowden and Russia, tricking retards like you.
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>>108492910
Oh shit this reminds me, didn't we have someone who lived in an embassy but eventually got kidnapped by EU or USA? I forgot the guy
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>>108491862
You don’t have to worry about web browsers spying on you when the whole entire earth is blanketed with spy satellites
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>>108492933
satellites aren't real
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thanks to Edward Snowden's sacrifice, we now live in a world where privacy is never invaded
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>>108492918
Maybe? If you're thinking of Julian Assange he was living in the Ecuadorian embassy in London but got his nationality revoked then got extradited so no kidnapping involved.
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>>108492100
>It's way too sad.
>Too bad the world is so shitty that people spilling the actual truth had to seek help there.
he's just another attention whore, he got what he wanted.
there are systems in place for the 3 letter agencies to be investigated for things like this. he knew that, greenwald knew that.
he just wanted attention and used this story for it.
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>>108492918
>didn't we have someone who lived in an embassy
assange was some kinda scandanavian cuck right?
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>>108492944
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VCoaqGH__gw&pp=ygUZQ25uIHNwYWNleCBzb3kgc2F0ZWxsaXRlcw%3D%3D

Why would they put out fake ai generated news?
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>>108492944
you can see them in the sky when it's clear enough outside.
not that you've been out there in the last 20 years.
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>>108493047
fuck you
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>>108492944
Explain GNSS then mouthbreathing retard
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>>108492963
>>108492993
Yeah Assange, crazy how things that were a big deal once upon a time are now memoryholed.
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>>108493099
you first
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>>108493106
Enough satellites orbiting around earth with specific orbits so that at all time and for all points on earth at least 4 of them have constant LOS, then it's fundamentally simple 3d trilateration to locate a signal (lots of control filters and signal fusion too)
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>>108493094
also the moon is a satellite by definition
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>>108493127
nta eh
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>>108492944
Checked and trvked.
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>>108491847
During that interview, he stated that his worst fear was that nothing would change, despite the leaks. His worst fear became the truth. The American people acknowledged massive data collection was happening, had a public freakout, and didn't do anything else about it. The bulk data collection stopped after the USA Freedom Act was passed in the form it was in, but that's about all that happened. In fact, things have only been getting worse.

EO 12333 was not modified or rescinded.
Section 702 of the FISA keeps being reauthorized.
Now, Palantir is Google for data on Americans, only accessible to the United States government.
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>>108491869
These are all bots but the normies do believe them if they gain a foothold.
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>>108491847
Well, he's not dying or working for Israel, so I'd say, yes, it was worth it.
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>>108491847
hope he gets droned after the mobilisation
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>>108491847
at least post the real photo of Edward Snowden
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>>108491847
>reddit trannies
Necking all reddit trannies will bring world peace
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>>108494407
why
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>>108491847
It was worth it. for the elite. This proved just how immune the system is: The normies don't care about how they're fucked and the media won't dare to report any of his revelations.
If all you read was mainstream media, all you'd learn is that some "traitor" stole and leaked some US secrets and then you'd get daily upgrades about how he's still at that airport.

We're so fucked.
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>>108491847
it was a huge scandal at the time, but not because people did anything about it - but people cared way more about seemingly like they cared about it. if it happened now, NOBODY would give a shit and we'd move on in a week outside of a few threads on here and /pol/ - we were last men then and we're last men now
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>>108491847
I remember. But I've never learn the lesson until now. If you blow the whistle, nobody cares anymore.

>Gov spies on you h24/7? Nobody cares
>9/11 was an inside job? Nobody cares
>The world is ruled by elite pedophiles? Nobody cares
>We all injected ourselves (not me tho... Uh sorry) with a mystery juice that gives random turbo cancers? Nobody cares
>Our tech is make us retarded and psychotic? Nobody cares

Etc etc
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>>108495092
>>108495394
people are too apathetic and comfortable, no one will risk their lives for anyone else, everyone is waiting for other people to do things for them.
also, authorities have no morals or shame anymore. politics used to be all about the future of nations. these days no one cares about their fucking neighbors and everyone has been brainwashed into distrusting one each other.
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>>108492983
Doesn't look like those systems work.
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>>108494421
The current system is so powerful because it can absorb everything. A critique of the system gets turned into a movie and becomes part of it.
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>>108491847
It wasn't worth it. He gave up his life to live in exile for nothing. Nothing changed, no one aside from a few privacy schizos cared. It's a lesson to all would be whistle blowers. Don't throw away your life for people who won't care.
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>>108492885
zoomer as in born after Obama was elected?
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>>108491847
No. He was and is a Russian asset. America is the ONLY country in the world that stands for FREEDOM and LIBERTY and JUSTICE for ALL. Every other country on this planet is a corrupt backwater that should be bulldozed, its people enslaved or slaughtered to provide for Americans.
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>>108495394
>But I've never learn the lesson until now. If you blow the whistle, nobody cares anymore.
Buddy you could have cracked open a history book and learned this as far back as the 60's and 70's and backed then people believed and fought for ANYTHING. The only lesson here is you and a bunch of other retards failed to learn your history.
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>>108491913
Reddit has been botted to shit for a long time now, and people just repeat what they have read earlier for the updoots. It's a Chinese telephone factory of vibes, only more directed nowadays. There is no demographic group that is inherently resistant to that sort of conditioning, if they spend enough time there.

I'm not dismissing your argument, it's just that the scale and sophistication of what we can only charitably call PR is underestimated. And it's only getting worse. With enough data it is possible to attribute posts (across forums) to entities, to establish a profile (if not deanonymize them), and it will soon be trivial to generate ad hoc talking points and gotchas that are most effective in discouraging or influencing the target person, or individuals engaged in that specific conversation. I would not be surprised if this was already happening, at least on a smaller scale.
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>>108492963
Australian national hero, nigger
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>>108492983
I've never seen a post glow so hard.
>>108493102
The fact that neither got presidential pardons is tragic. We live in a new era, and they were heroic relics from the previous era.
>>108495791
Shame tactics used to work so well. Now everyone knows that if you just wait a few weeks, people will get bored and move onto other things. Shame culture was removed from society, and we now have no non-violent method of dealing with our leaders.
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>>108491847
People can't handle the truth. Did he not watch the movie "Matrix"?
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>>108491847
I remember being so astounded by him as a teenager and now I'm basically the same age he was when this all went down.

That his sacrifice was essentially in vain is quite the redpill in itself about doing the right thing in an intelligent way which won't jeoparadize your livelihood and contingent it upon other people also doing the right thing.

In other words, don't be a martyr, as it likely won't result in the changes you directly wish for.
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>>108492310
kys retard
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>>108491847
Edward Snowden - the first AI personality
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>>108492483
what is asylum?
what is extradition compliance?
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>>108498483
the way the obama administration handled him and assange ruined any goodwill i had for that administration and its fucking insane that it’s been memoryholed
They were straight up going to fucking execute both of them if the feds got their hands on them
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>>108493926
I think what Edward Snowden actually accomplished was forcing an unspinnable bipartisan recognition that Obama was not in fact in-charge or a good-guy, and by extension, the whole democratic party.

In the early 2010s, despite controversies related to the continued war on terror, government baillouts, and rising racial tensions, the Obama administration was still able to maintain the illusion of justice and righteousness. However, by forcing an issue into the spotlight that should have made him laudable, but instead reviled by the establishment, he was able to singlehandedly shatter the good cop illusion which had been integral to the progression of the NWO's narrative which otherwise would have resulted in Hillary's election in 2016.

Because Edward showed that Obama and the democrats were not in fact any better when it came to American rights, this allowed Trump to seize the public confidence with his refrain "drain the swamp" not even a half a decade after the essential death of the liberal hipster era.
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>>108498520
>the way the obama administration handled him and assange ruined any goodwill i had for that administration
yep, as I explained here: >>108498562
Ed did more damage to Obama's image to the whole of America than all previous scandals combined
>its fucking insane that it’s been memoryholed
it's not been memoryholed, really, as the people who always supported obama never stopped supporting him

you have to zoom out a bit, and realize that Obama should actually be way more popular now than he actually is, with endless memes about him being missed and needing to come back, which essentially, are never posted anywhere; his propaganda is reduced to saying how cool his tastes are or how he's taking shots at Trump for this or that; he's been sidelined, and that's in no small part because the PRISM scandal destroyed his reputation

if you want an actual memoryhole, it's the hotdog party of the pizzagate era
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>>108491847
Dude looked directly into the face of ZOG and gave them the finger. It was great. He's still a pretty cool guy. And living in Russia...well, it used to be nice before the war I expect.
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>>108491847
yeah he's based just as he was 13 years ago
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>>108491847
YES. The people deserve to know if their elected government is doing evil shit behind their backs.
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My Dell Precision has a slider that blocks the webcam so nobody sees me cranking it to my AI girlfriend Taylor Swift
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>>108498598
> forcing an unspinnable bipartisan recognition that Obama was not in fact in-charge or a good-guy, and by extension, the whole democratic party
same with Bernie 2016, dude had a real shot but cucked out when the machine moved against him and basically torpedoed his reputation for forever
the pizzagate stuff has made a minor resurgence but the left still rides with the programming on that subject
PRISM essentially evolved into immaculate constellation, except the UFO crap is the well poisoning aspect but the rest of it is essentially truthful, using AI tools to scrape keywords and marked images from the internet and logging the IPs of those who posted them for later analysis
I must admit the 4th amendment workaround the feds came up with is pretty ingenious
>don’t want us directly collecting data? Ok, we will just buy it from the companies that produce the data then
Gives them an opportunity to double dip in embezzlement too
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>>108497868
Look at you big guy, antagonising people online. I bet you feel smart ! What are you doing about those things tho aside from calling people retards online?
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>>108498127
>people just repeat what they have read earlier for the updoots

You either repeat or affirm the allowed narratives or get your posts deleted or your account banned.



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