microsoft winned
great, can't wait for the new wave of vibe coded native appsalso isn't WinUI a failure, just like the five other previous efforts of MSFT to move away from Win32 API?
>>108493013>winned>they will>is moving>shouldnigger, they have done none of it yet
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>>108493013Implying that WinUI isn't also jeet shitware>Rudy HuynLooks brown, wouldn't get my hopes up
The staht menu will be writing in python bloody
>>108493062He looks partially European. Seems to be French, they're infamous for being race mixers.
>>108493013>>108493059>bharat_nationEvery time.
>>108493013Too late, I'm done with winslop.
>>108493013>we do good>we turn it all to shit>we apologies>we uturn>we do good>etc.
>>108493013good morning sirs!
>>108493013Cool. I'm still switching to Linux when W10 LTSC no longer works.
>>108493013>claiming they will do something.>meanwhile they've had to pull the last few updates because they fucked people over in some major way.
Sounds like they're going to have yet another WPF UI framework to go with the dozen or so other ones they've not officially abandoned but have starved of resources for decades.
I run Linux man
>>108493668>open native windows app.>only has one or two settings.>click on more settings.>launches "legacy" win 11 web app.
>>108493669This affects you the most. It will be ten years before Wine works with the new framework
>>108493013I honestly don't think they have the talent on board to do this. They only have reactjs Jeets.
>>108493585Yes. You have to remember: they skipped Windows 9. So it goes:2000 was shit - XP was good - Vista was shit - 7 was good - 8 was shit - 10 was good (okay; okay; it was *passable* alright?) - 11 is shit - moving into 12, will be good/passable again.It's the traditional tick-tock, the proverbial ping-pong, still continuing. Ever on.
>>108494833This. They can't even if they wanted to.
>>1084956272000 wasn't shit tho. That was Me.
>>108495627>2000 was shitproof?
>>108493013this time for real, not like the last 25 times, seriously.
>>108493013the very fact this is something they "will" do, means they losed.
>>108493013>we have discovered that our OS shouldn't be one huge electron app
>>108493013Weird how everything was native in 7 and then they just decided to abandon that only to come crawling back to it.
>>108493013ChatGPT would probably make a better kernel
Microsoft is incapable of “changing course” because that implies they were going in the right direction to begin with. Bill Gates made his fortune by fucking over his partners, his investors and his customers, in that order. The official policy of Microsoft has always been two simple words; fuck you. > I want to be able to install my own shell Fuck you > I want to decide when my system updates Fuck you > I want to know what this company does with my data Fuck you > I want to be able to install my own operating system on the computer I bought Fuck youEtc etc
>>108495675>2000 wasn't shit tho. That was Me.That was you?
Now that AI exists people could reverse engineer Windows with it and do the funniest thing ever
>>108496038Go back to bed boomer. The Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore.
>>108496038>Microsoft is incapable of “changing course”Bitch Microsoft has existed since 1975, they’ve not only changed courses they’ve set the course for more things than you’ll ever know.
>>108496038all of these things work fine, you are just making shit up because you’re a brown Linjeet
>>108493013File explorer and the start menu were wrappers?What?
>>1084956278 was good, other than the stupid start menu bullshit, which was easily bypassed in 60 seconds by installing a start menu replacement like Classicshell.10 is the first window release where there was only one QA person for every dave versus 2 QA people. Update quality fell off a cliff and home users (to a lesser extent, non-enterprise pro users) were left as the QA testers.11 had all the ills of 10 but worse because of AI code slop and horrible (e.g. using react in the start menu)
>>108493022Win32 API would be peak if it just had dark mode.
The source of this news is a random twitter post>>108496213>8 -> 8.1 update>shit breaksit was shit
Microsoft is famous for its internal wars. One that started two decades ago was Native vs Web. In 2006, WPF was released and was the dotnet answer to Win32's UI classes. At the time dotnet was very hot and this was seen as the path forward for software development. At the same time, one of the VPs thought the web was going to take over everything so he started pushing for using html, css, and js everywhere. That started the Native vs Web Holy War that has raged inside the company for decades.The thing is that there was a third faction in all of this: the Win32 C++ loyalists. They hated dotnet and had been fighting against it. People in that camp refused to use dotnet for anything and aligned with the web folks against dotnet. The result was a bit of a stalemate in that dotnet is still very deeply entrenched but lost the UI battle, which was won by the web people. The Win32 C++ loyalists were the biggest losers in all of this. While they were fighting against dotnet, the web folks simply walked through C++ territory and took everything they could without much resistance.Microsoft is now learning very painfully that web has some very hard limits, especially when it comes to performance. In the past they could somewhat cheat by invoking a low level layer but since much of the Win32 C++ territory has been destroyed and its practitioners pushed out, finding those old performant resources has become difficult to impossible for the web heads.Moving back to "native" is just stepping back to the dotnet UI paradigm that got pushed off to the side in the war with web. It's much better at connecting with the core Win32 stuff that still exists while also being far more performant itself than web tech. >Active DesktopMentioning because some boomer always brings it up, but that was a late 90s thing where a web panel was bolted over the Windows desktop. It has no real connection to the Web Holy War that started a decade later.
>>108494827i dont drink wine
>>108493022it works on chromeosI want to get a different computer but I don't want to lose muh botnet
>>108496058Yes. I am Indian after all.
They have enough money and talent to keep rewriting the apps with "native technology" every few years. They probably should just to give people something to do and make sure they don't get too bloated. Plus, rewriting stuff is always fun.
>>108493013microjeet will just prompt AI in real time to generate start menu on the fly.
>>108493013Moved to Linux years ago.
>>108497012No one asked.
>>10849562795 was shit98 was shit98SE was shitMe was actually way better but still shit2000 was greatXP, Vista and 7 were usable with tweaks8 and 8.1 were weird10 was shit11 is just unusable
>>108496836>enough moneyTrue>talentFalseThey pushed out most of the real talent over a decade ago. The few who have remained are those who didn't get enough stock options to retire early. Even then, they're lost in the increasingly large pool of poos. Making everything based on web tech was a big mistake but it wasn't the only one. Switch to native isn't going to help if it's all poos writing the code.
>>108493013>native>winUIThat is .NET not native.
rudy just cant stop winning
>>108493013winform still the undisputed king
>>108495627>2000 was shityou're mixing up 2000 and ME you larper who probably wasn't even born. 2000 was peak.
>>108493013Did they really get spooked by the MacBook Neo this hard?
>>108497236It’s still a fucking “store”This fiasco is the posterchild of polishing a turd.
I still don't know how they ever thought this would be a good idea. I thought the value behind webslop is cross platform, so you wouldn't need it for explicitly platform specific code
>>108493013sirs,,,, we are doing the NATIVE app needful kindly be running the windows updates and revert back with the samet. sukdeep gaganbabu rehkisawamandeep, microsoft mvp
