I hate the shitty threads you people make. I want to share what has opened my eyes, for other novices like me, who are trying to leave Winslop 11.This thread is supposed to put you on the right track to making your own decision, after reading this thread the fog of Linux won't be there anymore, you will know what you want and you will find the distro that is suitable for you.> 1. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svgThis old image includes 95% of all Linux distros in existence, study this.Studying this image alone, is going to help you see through idiotic arguments like "mint is better" or "go with arch" or "go with pop_os" -- most of them have a parent OS.> 2. Distro arguments are pointless. #1 choice that you must make is what family Linux do you want and pick.If you studied image above, you will see there distinct few families of Linux, the relevant ones are: Debian, Fedora, Arch. > 3. If you need windows applications like actual excel/word/photoshop, you can easy as piss, fire up a VM with winslop 11, with passthrough to a NAS drive or local drive with your files, takes 10 minutes to set up. Sort of like reverse-WSL2 how we have ubuntu running on windows at all times in windows Linux subsystem. This is the easiest way to run these programs; they will not run via typical Wine layer from my experience.> Fedora (RedHat Enterprise Linux `RHEL`)Today, fedora appears to be the cutting edge Linux. It is a bit less stable than Debian, but it is still extremely stable, and the latest packages are not lagged behind as much as in Debian universe. I think if you are coming from shitty Windows, this is going to blow your mind as far as stability and errors.This means drivers come out more often. Do your own research on this one because its definitely a good candidate.It includes popular sub-distros like:Bazzite OS (popular for gaming)CentOSORACLE LinuxQubesOS
> DebianThis is the distribution family that you will likely land on. It includes all those distributions like the abandoned SteamOS (new steamOS V2 (not in the image from section 1 for some reason) is part of Arch Linux family, more on it later). This distribution is manically stable because it is then used on infrastructure servers, mission important computers, it undergoes months of integration testing's to ensure nothing breaks. So the only negative thing is that some newer packages might exist, they might even be compatible, but because they have not been integration tested, you will have to wait for a few months to get that update. This means you might have to wait a bit longer for the drivers updates etc.It includes many super popular distributions, like Parrot (hacking distrol like Kali), also Kali, RaspberryPi OS, PROXMOX.However, the crown jewel of Debian is: > Ubuntu Ubuntu is so successful and popular due to stability usability, support, compatibility and most importantly STABILITY that it has exploded into it's own massive subgroup of distros that take Ubuntu's every single update and repackage it into:Mint OS,POP!_OS,elementary OS,Pear OS, and many others. So when someone says they are rocking MintOS - they are effectively recommending Ubuntu which is continuously being repackaged as MintOS as Ubuntu rolls out their updates etc.
>>108498770jam it up your asshole. i'm gonna cum in your cat.
> Arch LinuxArchlinux is a hobby, not a serious contender for a Windows/Mac substitute.Raw dogging Arch is pointless, it is an enthusiast distribution. It uses something called rolling updates, and they just let you install anything latest. The problem with that -- nobody is running integration tests, where other distros have teams running integration tests ensuring packages do not conflict, here the burden is on YOU. Every time you update or install something of the wrong version, something mission critical will break and not start, for many /g/ users whos only usecase for Archlinux is to show off their gay pride neofetch -- it is not a concern since that is the only most useful package that they have (besides showing off their mental illness 10-keyless keyboard without F-keys that they call "minimalist").Raw Arch selling point is that you build your own OS, the crux of that being that in contrast - distros for adults have whole teams that ensure that allowed software passes integration tests and won't prevent other parts of OS from functioning, so people running Arch will keep postponing important updates, and they will never install too much on their system, as every additional install is a point of potential failure. Additionally, hey typically like to reinstall whole Archlinux from scratch on monthly basis anyway, and the less things you have to re-install the better. > What about SteamOS V2, Manjaro, CachyOS etc.These are Arch-based sub-distros, these are fine, because they have teams of people dedicated to taking the stripped down Archlinux, and they make it better, they make it usable, so the burden of making it work is taken away from you and you just get to enjoy the minimally bloated system. SteamOS sucks, what makes it game is Proton, many people put other linuxes with proton and get better gaming performance on the SteamDeck (Bazzite).> GENTOOKind of like arch, ignore it.> SlackwareStuck in 90s, ignore it.
>>108498770>I want to share what has opened my eyes, for other novices like me, who are trying to leave Winslop 11.Leave?! To where? The... grave?>LoonixAh... I.. See, it's one of these schizoid rants >>>/g/ had.Linux still fucking sucks and you aren't going to convince me.>Debian, Fedora, Arch.All of them very flawed.>> 3. If you need windows applications like actual excel/word/photoshop, you can easy as piss, fire up a VM with winslop 11, with passthrough to a NAS drive or local drive with your files, takes 10 minutes to set up.Ah my bad I didn't know what day it is.
> Desktop Environment Vs. Window Manager- this is the visual GUI part, you see how windows XP looks different to Windows 11 and how it looks different to macOS, this is basically what environment is, when you install arch you must decide which you get, if you get KDE your environment will look like complete garbage from 20 years ago, if you get GNOME you will get a very frustrating interface that makes no real sense for productivity, but if you get Ubuntu with GNOME then Ubuntu will have used engineers to tune GNOME and make it actually very good and usable. Use online virtual linux to see which feels best.- you don't have to use Desktop Environment really, you can go with window manager (look it up) instead, it makes a lot of sense to just use window manager in fact especially if you want to leave the resources for actually important things like gayming or developing.In conclusion if you TLDR, as someone said:>I fancy myself as a dev who does serious work and don't have time to constantly deal with bullshit, and dont expect to play games out of the box without installing a few things first, then rawdog:• Ubuntu• Fedora >I value my time. I don't want to read or follow instructions. I just to get away from Windows and play muh vydia right away• Mint (Ubuntu)• Pop (Ubuntu)• Nobara (Fedora)• Bazzite (Fedora)So in the end you should be choosing between Ubuntu and Fedora, you can go raw, then cherrypick the packages that make other operating systems - gaming operating systems, what you end up with is parent OS and gaming packages. This way you avoid what LinusTechTips experienced when relying on a small team that maintains PopOS which caused him to corrupt his system.
>Best linux distroyou mean Mint
tl;dr stop being a fucking pussy and install arch
>>108498803well it's basically ubuntu and i did mention it as one of the best candidates for some>>108498807you reinstall yours every month so that its perfect, i do serious work i cant have computer not boot up because theres a sudden incompatibility>>108498795if you are okay being exploited then stay with windows 11, personally i am done, ive ran WSL2 for 2 years (Ubuntu) and havent had a single issue, so i think im ready to rawdog it now>>108498788shut up
>>108498839>the best candidateexactly
I should have mentioned `distrosea.com` is a good place to test out some distros
Void Linux is the best.
I'm a nixxer btw
>>108498770> words words words words words words words words words > Ctrl-F "openSUSE"> 0 results The correct answer is openSUSE Tumbleweed-Slowroll. Everything else is a meme distro.
>>108498786Yeah, I ended up with Debian nd used it for 8 years or so, but ever since I got current hardware, it just won't cut it and I don't have the time to inspect kernel patching and compilation from source just to have ACPI issues ruled out.Suse took its place for me and it works out pretty well since (just like bread, pussy, air, drugs, beer ....) it is better cuz it's german.
>>108498786>>108498797Why would anyone use Ubuntu over Debian?
>>108499616Probably just because newer kernel and newer system packages
>>108499235Slowrol still beta stageGomna switch as soon as it becomes official.
