Is this actually a sound argument? Saying we only had the technology to land on the moon in the 1970's sounds really stupid and fuels disbelief no matter how you phrase it.
of course it was fake who still believes that moon landing BS
>>108518420if they used specialized hardware with no documentation, it's possible
Boomers basically destroyed everything tech related in the past especially hardware It's not like we are aren't doing the same we're doing way worse if anything
>>108518471It's like you're an idiot.Because you completely ignore the importance of "tribal knowledge" that get passed on to new generations working at the same enterprises and such.Your enterprises are in China. Along with most of the knowledge.
>>108518498o k wi fei
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>>108518465It’s not even just the documentation, it’s the 1960/70s supply chain the specs are built for. For similar reasons, we cannot rebuild the concord using the original schematics, yet I'd hope no one would deny that existed.
>>108518420Wanna know how I know you're a retard who has no fucking clue what he's talking about?>Moon landingFrom the very first words you wrote.
>>108518420CRTs were fake. Allegedly, they made billions of them, and now you can't even get one produced for any amount of many.
To the niggerbrains who think we didn't go, tell me explicitly which part you think was impossible.
The technology wasn't "destroyed". Many pieces of the lunar program were decommissioned because they were old and unnecessary. Landing on the moon isn't that much harder than getting into orbit. It's not even 10% as hard as having a rocket land itself back on Earth.
>>108518420It's an idiotic conspiracy theory. The Apollo missions left reflectors on the moon. We use those reflectors still to this day to fire a laser at the moon and measure the amount of time it takes for the light to return to earth, which gives us a precise distance to the moon. This is not something only the government can do, this is something anyone can do with a powerful enough laser and telescope for aiming it. Unfortunately, you'd have to enroll at a college with that equipment if you wanted to do it yourself (as students and faculty have access to the equipment) unless you have a shit load of money to build a powerful enough laser, but the fact remains that literally anyone can do it. That is proof that we did, indeed, land on the moon. The reflectors didn't arrive there by magic.
>>108518714the way the module took off for the return flight video looks like a shoe picked up by its shoelace, very bad
it's a pretty good IQ filter just like flat earth, you know you can stop talking to the person immediately and spend your time elsewhere
>>108518714Man walking on the moon in 1969.
>>108518714https://www.aulis.com/raytracing.htm
>>108518420Whenever someone suggests it was fake they're net with visceral reaction almost on par with holocaust denial. This only makes me more sus.
>>108518420With the generations of defunding they went through I'm not surprised in all honesty.
>>108518921Both things are there to create noise. Death camps where real, but Jews skewed the picture. Way more people in general died there, not just 6 millions. But Jews only talk about Jews. They completely ignore everyone else.Similar thing with space. They say it was fake. I would say that it's not, but we do not know how many people and animals were killed and which attempt of going to outer space was actually successful. They probably hide a load of very ugly stuff about space, just like USSR did (poorly, that's how I know about it).
>>108518864True.
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>>108518420it's not an argument at all, it's a claim
>>108519058These must go pretty hard if you're sub 100 IQ.
>>108518420>NASA still has the plans, but the factories that built the parts no longer exist>The physical tools and assembly lines were scrapped>The institutional knowledge of that time disappeared when the engineers retired or died>Old plans are incompatible with modern techMakes sense to me.
I'm sorry but there's no possible way we landed on the moon in the 60s and never suffered a single casualty along the way. In fact that only single major issue was a power failure from a venting oxygen tank. Actually laughable to believe this.
>>108518420If the Moon landing was faked, why did the Soviet Union accept it as real?
>>108518420many cases of supply chains and institutional knowledge evaporating after the need went away. just look at the recent f-22 production restart study. we can't make them anymore without prohibitive expenditure despite it being much more recent than any of the old space tech and still currently making replacement parts/modernizing them.
>>108519174I was just reading replies to see what everyone's insight was but I have to call bullshit on this.NASA has been relying on the russian soyuz rocket since the 90's and only stopped after they could rely on spaceX. This is basic rocketry and they can't even get that right. But somehow I'm supposed to believe the agency that can't get astronauts to and from the ISS somehow walked on the moon and came back on the first try? There's a level of healthy skepticism that should be exercised here.
>>108519205You're talking about tooling. Tooling is expensive. It's not "lost" or "irreplicable". It's the same reason you can't buy a body panel for a 1968 giulia from alfa romeo until they release the molds and another business reproduces them (which happens if there's a market for instance "new" bmw 2002 body and trim replicas are being produced in thailand)
>>108518420first of all; there is no evidence anyone went to the moon. the russians were killing themselves to embarrass the states which they did repeatedly and were probably relieved to put an end to it.but every single claim of evidence from laser bouncing to flying lander video is easily shown to have no value as evidence. you can't hit a moon reflector with a laser, the earths atmosphere means a laser dot is ten meters wide when it hits the moon and you only get a couple of photons back and need to use statistics to say if it even made it or not. they built a huge replica of the moon which they moved cameras around on so as to feed the video to lander simulators. faking it would have been as simple as a simulation run they did a hundred times anyway.everyone has their own smoking gun, for me personally i find the fact that they simply recorded over the video tapes of the live feed of the fucking moon landing because they didn't think the footage was valuable.as for the argument, yes. it is a good argument.every single person in america is retarded. and everyone at nasa also is retarded. the technology that they had is not fit for purpose. even the technology that they have now (the boeing iss fiasco last year remember that??) is not fit for purpose. so i don't blame them for not wanting to use it. because its a fucking death trap and a liability.im utterly certain that when people talk about >>108518498>tribal knowledgewhat they mean is that the documentation which is public is slightly different to how we know things have to operate in order that they don't kill everyone and we cant write that down because it makes us look bad.also, going to the moon was a heap of shit, nobody fucking ever cared about going to the moon it was all about first, showing off icbm capability and then later just spying. so.idk what this moon shit now is specifically about, russia or whatever. but it has ZERO to do with putting a man on the moon just for the lulz
>>108519210>NASA has been relying on the russian soyuz rocket since the 90's and only stopped after they could rely on spaceX.That's because it was cheaper than if they made the rockets themselves (which they couldn't due to budget cuts).
>>108518713we lost the technology, chud. CRTs are le real and valid
>>108519202>why did the Soviet Union accept it as real?disagreeing with a billion people watching it """live"""" on tv is not really that great, they would have come out as lunatics
>people pretend to hold this belief for ebin troll points>the site gets flooded with actual flat earthers who think they're in good company
>Watch official footage of NASA lander taking off>looks like a fucking puppet show made out of two pieces of papers>Comments have been disabled
>>108519529>>108518859link?
>>108518465anyone who manufactured parts for nasa knows there's a shitload of documentation. it would be impossible to lose it if it was indeed real
>>108519210>but I have to call bullshit on this.And then you proceed to give this incredibly dumb, 90 IQ take. You're not qualified to talk about rocketry, sit back and trust the science.
>>108519272>the documentation which is public is slightly different to how we know thingsNah, you don't get it. There are things that were never documented. At all. Not because everyone there was stupid. But because to make engineer's dream a reality, you need to actually mess around with a huge amount of complicated hardware and raw materials and invent processes that were often overlooked or ignored. Some of those were top secret. And some spicy stuff: some of them were literally stolen by Chinese and destoyed. And this is no joke, I think you can lurk for confirmation that such cases were real.> also, going to the moon was a heap of shit, nobody fucking ever cared about going to the moon Bullshit, everyone was scared shitless of artificial satelites. It was like the power of God. Adversary that always holds a load of unknown weapons over your head, every single day. A spy sattelite that can see objects you thought are kept secret, including ICBM silos.And reputation of the country mattere. In a world that was about to be split apart by two superpowers one just put a man in the outer space. And they were atheists. You do not understand how big it was and how much it mattered for the people of that era.> idk what this moon shit now is specifically aboutAfaik it's about mining materials you cannot get for cheap on Earth. Also processing them without oxygen etc.But it's sci-fi rn, not proven. Robots different nations send are mostly looking for valuable raw materials.I've seen some estimations from Chinese, they are literally looking to mine shit there and make profit over here, notihng more to it.
>>108519202the kgb and the cia have worked together since forever
>>108518420Something like 10k different companies/subcontractors were used across all parts of the Apollo program. I imagine a good portion of those either no longer exist or have been merged into another company with some of the knowledge being lost as people retire and skills aren't passed down.
>>108518420Progress is not linear, skills and knowledge are easily lost if not passed down to the next generations.
