I want to buy a 14.2" MacBook Pro, but I can't decide on the chip. My tasks are:1. Various daily tasks, such as web browsing, potentially some multitasking.2. Software development, webshit and some C/C++/Go/Rust.3. DAW4. Image editing, no more than one 5000x5000 (or less) image at a time.5. 3D modeling, 3D animation, 3D rendering (if it's animated in the first place, then it's no more than 5-10 minutes).The choice is between the base M5, the M5 Pro and the M5 Max chips. M5 Max is obviously the best, but I've heard bad things about battery life, thermal throttling, fan noise of the M5 Max chip in the 14" chassis, so I'm really unsure about it. M5 Pro is next best thing, but it has a significantly weaker GPU, the M5 Max's GPU is twice as powerful. I'm not considering the base M5 too much, but I've decided to include it anyway.In general it feels a little weird to me how I got upsold to the M5 Pro from the base M5, but I can't figure out at all whether I want to go to the M5 Max even though the increase in price is roughly the same.What do you suggest?
>>108524734Believe me, you don’t need more than the regular M5. If you want more juice, you can get the M5 Pro. However, getting the M5 Max is really excessive for your use case.
>>108524757How come? 3D rendering is the sole reason I'm considering M5 Max.
Also I've wondering if someone wants to suggest me to do 3D rendering not on a laptop, perhaps on a Mac Studio instead. If someone does, would that really be cheaper/better?
>>108524791get a studio, get a low spec perf but high spec materials and construction laptop with a good networking chip. ssh into the studio when you are abroad.
>>108524885Well I kind of want to buy a MacBook Pro and use with external displays at home, while using it as a laptop outside of the home, to do essentially all the tasks I do, and leave to the desktop tasks that are infeasible, too costly, etc. on the MacBook for some reason
>>108524734>1. Various daily tasks, such as web browsing, potentially some multitasking.>2. Software development, webshit and some C/C++/Go/Rust.>3. DAW>4. Image editing, no more than one 5000x5000 (or less) image at a time.>5. 3D modeling, 3D animation, 3D rendering (if it's animated in the first place, then it's no more than 5-10 minutes).you're a teenager who just posted a bunch of bullshit
>>108524919Why?
>>108524734Apple offers a 14 day no questions asked return policy. You could just get the M5 from them and drive it as hard as you think you ever will. If it struggles, now you know you need an M5 Pro. Not sure why you’re considering a Max for your use case and also your concerns around it.I have an M4 Pro for work and it’s pretty great. Rather than buy the same exact thing for myself though I’m planning on getting their remodel later this year or next to differentiate it.
>>108525145>Apple offers a 14 day no questions asked return policy.I don't live in that kind of country where that's the case>remodelI'm actually waiting for it too, perhaps they'll fix the thermal issues.
>>108524734Base M5 is more than enough for this. Even an M2/3/4 Pro will suffice.
>>108524734I got the M4 Pro chip for web dev stuff and occasional gaming, if it wasn't for gaming I would have gone the Base chip.got it connected to my second monitor and everything is fine.I think if you're doing big 3d projects and would like to play a game from time to time you should go with a pro chip, otherwise not.
>>108524734Mac or not it's always easier to answer if you know where you're coming from and why you're upgrading. I assume you already do all of the things you have described, so the question is where are you experiencing bottlenecks right now? What's your current setup and what are you expecting out of the new one? Some people will pay more for a 10-20% gain. I personally only upgrade if I am getting at least a 50% boost in performance and I usually wait until I'm getting at least 100%. All of the things you're describing can and have been done on computers for the last 25 years, just slower than on modern systems, so it's hard to give objective advice on what will be "worth it" to you without more information.Does your current system have enough RAM or do you need more? How much do you use with your most intensive workload?Are you bottlenecked by single-core or multi-core CPU performance? How much of an upgrade would you need to see to be satisfied with the money spent? (50% faster, 100% faster, 200% faster?)Are you bottlenecked by graphics performance? How much of an upgrade would you need to see to be satisfied with the money spent? (50% faster, 100% faster, 200% faster?)Personally I went with an M5Pro because it has close to 2x the graphics performance of the base M5, plus it comes with the updated Wifi7 chip and faster thunderbolt + SSD speeds. The M5Max compared to the M5Pro only really meaningfully improves on graphics performance and nothing else. I feel like overall the M5Pro base model (24gb/1TB) is the best overall "professional" bang/buck model, but that still doesn't mean that it's going to be the best choice for you.
>no iToddlers BTFO>no satania>no install gentoo>no funny obfuscated shell scripts that retards fall for>thread full of unironic, shameless macfagsPlease change, /g/.
>>108524936Nta, but literally all of that could be done on a M1 fine. You haven't listed a use case that requires more than the Neo in fact. If youre like me the MAX is nice for the gpu cores and RAM to run local models, but even then macs are slow.
>>108525504hardware market is so balls and ass now that i just don't have the heart.pricepoint of mac hardware is, hilariously, not that bad because everything is just as bad as it is now. for some stuff like running local llm its actually the best option.
>>108525261Why is base M5 enough for this?
>>108525587Well just because it can be done on an M1 doesn't mean it's an optimal variant. I want something actually powerful enough to do it all snappy and quickly
>>108525459Good question, this is actually my first MacBook and the reason I'm buying it is because, essentially, I want a unix-like environment for dev work, while still being able to run a DAW and something like Photoshop, i.e. "creative" apps. Currently I own a cheap laptop that I don't use to do anything except web browsing, and the reason for that is that I've always been using a desktop PC for everything at home, and the laptop has been delegated to being a "mobile computer" that I only use outside of home, but I think I want to change this with this MacBook purchase. The idea is that perhaps my laptop will become the primary computing device, with a docking station + monitor + keyboard + mouse at home, and a desktop PC will do things that don't feel like they're "fit" for a laptop.Regarding the desktop PC, I honestly don't know exactly because I (try to) run stuff in a Windows VM and everything's lagging really hard, but it probably wouldn't be lagging outside of a VM.
>>108524734M5 PRO 18 core cpu has the same cpu core amount as m5 max the only difference are GPU cores.Just buy the 16 inch m5 pro 18 cpu core version.
>>108526344>the same cpu core amountI know, but I have 3D rendering as a use case>Just buy the 16 inchI'm buying the 14 inch specifically
>>10852640014 inch has worse cooling, it's not enough for the 40core gpu in MAX version, it will overheat and throttle the performance.buy used m3 ultra studio with 80 gpu cores.
>>108526126Because I've done everything OP listed (except 3d modeling) on a base M1 8/256 model somewhat comfortably.A M5 with 16+GB RAM and a 1TB SSD will be a significant upgrade over the M1.
>>108524734M5 Pro and Max are based on the Fusion Architecture and are cucked chips. The M4 series were the last good chips from Apple.
