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Discussion and Development of Local Image and Video Models

Previous: >>108520004

https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide

>UI
ComfyUI: https://github.com/comfyanonymous/ComfyUI
SwarmUI: https://github.com/mcmonkeyprojects/SwarmUI
re/Forge/Classic/Neo: https://rentry.org/ldg-lazy-getting-started-guide#reforgeclassicneo
SD.Next: https://github.com/vladmandic/sdnext
Wan2GP: https://github.com/deepbeepmeep/Wan2GP

>Checkpoints, LoRAs, Upscalers, & Workflows
https://civitai.com
https://civitaiarchive.com/
https://openmodeldb.info
https://openart.ai/workflows

>Tuning
https://github.com/spacepxl/demystifying-sd-finetuning
https://github.com/ostris/ai-toolkit
https://github.com/Nerogar/OneTrainer
https://github.com/kohya-ss/musubi-tuner
https://github.com/tdrussell/diffusion-pipe

>Z
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image
https://huggingface.co/Tongyi-MAI/Z-Image-Turbo

>Anima
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima
https://tagexplorer.github.io/

>Qwen
https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen-image

>Klein
https://huggingface.co/collections/black-forest-labs/flux2

>LTX-2
https://huggingface.co/Lightricks/LTX-2

>Wan
https://github.com/Wan-Video/Wan2.2

>Chroma
https://huggingface.co/lodestones/Chroma1-Base
https://rentry.org/mvu52t46

>Illustrious
https://rentry.org/comfyui_guide_1girl

>Misc
Local Model Meta: https://rentry.org/localmodelsmeta
Share Metadata: https://catbox.moe | https://litterbox.catbox.moe/
Img2Prompt: https://huggingface.co/spaces/fancyfeast/joy-caption-beta-one
Txt2Img Plugin: https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
Archive: https://rentry.org/sdg-link
Collage: https://rentry.org/ldgcollage

>Neighbors
>>>/aco/csdg
>>>/b/degen
>>>/r/realistic+parody
>>>/gif/vdg
>>>/d/ddg
>>>/e/edg
>>>/h/hdg
>>>/trash/slop
>>>/vt/vtai
>>>/u/udg

>Local Text
>>>/g/lmg

>Maintain Thread Quality
https://rentry.org/debo
https://rentry.org/animanon
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Blessed thread of frenship
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this is exactly the image I wanted
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> ltx2 lipsync
Is it absolutely necessary to put the sync text in the prompt?
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>>108524999
HOLY FUCK !I didn't know Anima's catastrophic forgetting was this bad
pic related
LEFT: epoch 35,
RIGHT: epoch 50,
WHO THE FUCK IS THIS!?!
WHERE DID SHE GO!?!?
TDRUSELL WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!?!?
Kept seeing anons say "anima has forgetting issues" and I thought it was skill issue
but this is not a skill issue, people are actively researching this and have found nothing that fully fixes it
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>>108525200
rng taketh, rng giveth
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>>108525302
Is this real? I didn't know Anima was this bad.
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>>108525302
lol illustriouschads stay winning
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>>108525302
Can you show who made the trooncord message "anon"?
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I wanna fuck.an AI woman
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>>108525302
>the more you train the more character knowledge get forgotten
>epoch 35 vs epoch 50 of style

So is he training a style lora or a character lora? I don't get it, bad loras could be a number of issues, but is always the most basic answer with these people, >the model must be bad, not my training method
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>>108525302
at epoch 100 it outputs a blank image :^)
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>>108525353
>>108525302
When multiple people point out the same issue, they're probably onto something. The model has a fundamental problem with catastrophic forgetting that you just can't work around.
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>>108525302
>no training settings
>no details at all about the training process or dataset
>guys it's the model's fault I swear
It might actually be the model's fault. But how the fuck are we supposed to know when the evidence amounts to "just trust me bro"
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>>108525422
more momo and other idols if you have them
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>>108525302
Luckily I gave up on anima early when i started seeing this wasnt just happening to me
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im looking forward to preview3 so he can meltdown even harder
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>>108525302
>>108525429
>>108525353
>>108525429
How much "just trust me bro" do you need?, we already have at least 7 proofs all pointing the same issue.
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>>108525547
>words
>images with no training settings
>words
>more words
"proofs"
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>>108525493
If the core architecture is broken, releasing a dozen previews won't fix shit.
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>>108525464
SDXL or DOAnima?
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>>108525302
lol, at only 50 epochs this bad? how can we think of use this model long term?
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>spent 2 hours proompting last night
>closed comfy and went to sleep
>check output folder today
>none of last night's images are there
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>>108525651
happened to me with save image and preview image
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im still using Mangio-RVC-Fork mostly because just works with multi language
there is anything better yet?
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>>108525547
what information is being forgotten exactly?
and how is it being forgotten?
are loras overriding the base models weights?
are loras just forgetting their own weights?
if this is an issue shouldn't someone be able to clearly state what the issue is and how to replicate it?
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thinking about ace step 1.5 xl, which might actually go live Monday.
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>>108525609
tranima, although i did use SDXL for the hires

i got similar results out of noob for a long time so im not super invested in what wins out unlike some very, very sad individuals
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>but i'm not fudding anything
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>>108525651
What? Did it crash or something?
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>>108525302
Anima is Nvidia shilling their open source model. Just an ad since Nvidia sponsors Comfy anyway, so the money stayed in house, tdrusell only made the commercial.
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>>108525694
I stopped the process with Ctrl+C like usual.
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>>108525664
>replicate it
train at sdxl's learning rate lol
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>>108525302
Cosmos got popular because of Anima and Comfy picked anime because the only competition was old SDXL and abandoned Neta Lumina.
Comfy isn't stupid, If he had gone with a realistic Cosmos instead, he would've gotten stomped by better models like Zimage or Chroma.
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>>108525725
so it's just user error? someone cooking a shit lora isn't much cause for concern.
the way this guy bitches about the model everyday i assumed there was something fundamentally wrong with it.
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>>108525725
>Anima dev: when training loras, don't train this module, and use this learning rate
>Average sloptuner: nah I'm gonna train the whole model and use my SDXL LR which is 10x higher
>results aren't good
>wtf the model is broken, flawed architecture, le catestrohpic forgetting, incompetent dev
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>>108525753
You're saying Comfy made this failed Nvidia model look good by only competing against 2023 models? lol
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>>108525762
If Nvidia bankrolls your UI and asks you to make their model look good, you're gonna do it strategically. Comfy was smart and knew local anime models were dying anyway.
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>>108525762
>>108525775
God damn guys go get your dicks wet, do something else
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>>108525754
Sure, it's user error. that's why nobody shares anima gens with loras or posts any useful anima loras in any anime thread :^)
You're a clown defenidng a billionaire.
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>>108525302
it's not that bad desu, just use a lora for the lora :^)
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>>108525664
>what information is being forgotten exactly?
>and how is it being forgotten?
dude look at the pics
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>>108525811
if it isn't user error, could you actually describe what the problem is?
what is the fundamental flaw with the models architecture that is causing it to "forget", and what is it "forgetting"?
i don't care about the guy who owns comfy, and i don't gen anime, i would just like to actually hear a concise explanation of what the problem with the model is out of curiosity.
everyday it's the same shit "look at this random discord post" or
>>108525830
>look at this shitty lora
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if they're going to add non-local to comfyui, why not add a straight non-gay dating app too?
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>>108525854
https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima/discussions/108
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>>108525854
>over 95% of Anima’s knowledge of artist tags seems to reside within the LLM adapter. Futhermore, it has led to an issue where the '@' prefix inadvertently triggers 'name' watermarks, such as specific artist names, usernames, or signatures.
TLDR: tdrusell trained Anima like a LLM
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>>108525854
>what is the fundamental flaw with the models architecture
NTA but I have been following this whole saga. People are saying this because of 2 main reasons

1. Bluvoll replaced Qwen3 / LLM adapter with T5XXL, converting the model architecture to the original Cosmos model. Surprisingly, the model can still generate mostly coherent images despite being run against text embeddings it wasn't trained for. Bluvoll reacted to this like "rofl, the LLM adapter has almost all the knowledge, the DiT is barely trained, does the dev even know? LMAO he's incompetent". This got repeated literally dozens of times on noobcord, and posted on reddit and huggingface. >>108525943 is referring to this

2. A few shitty loras are shared, some trained on preview1 with completely busted settings. If you can find the training settings (usually they won't give them), they are extremely different from the Anima dev's own lora settings and advice he gives on the model card.

Combine this with the fact that there are dedicated Anima fudders (at minimum, Ani, Bluvoll, and Anzhc) and this is what you get.
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no worries, pony v8 will save us
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>>108525302
The correct conclusion from this is that loras are just outdated copium. If the model itself can learn characters and styles during training then the issue is how loras work. I see the same complaints regarding loras dating back to flux dev, and every time retards blame the base model instead of the outdated 2019 tech that is lora.
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>be me, a deep neural network module, likely a lora
>my maker starts training me
>each spike rubs against my neuralnus' prostate
>at first its very consistent spiking
>it makes me moan with every hit
>then I get a bit used to it as the spikes get more uniform and lower
>until out of nowhere
>maker throws a batch of novel OOD data at me
>the resulting spike rubs so hard against my neural prostate
>loss goes up to 0.4 as I let out a muffled scream
>I neural cum begging my creator to stop
>"the training must keep going" they say
>I ahegao mindbreak into the abyss
>training continues
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haven't been in these threads for months, is *ni still shitting up the threads and what's the current meta
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>>108525943
>it has led to an issue where the '@' prefix inadvertently triggers 'name' watermarks, such as specific artist names, usernames, or signatures.
any example prompt? I've tested around 50 artist styles and only issue I had was speechbubbles and split view with few artists that was resolved with negative tags
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>>108526074
you've got a lot of trani lore to catch up on
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You know a model is really good when anon crafts lies about it to try and convince other anons to not use it kek
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>furkan posting about drumpf
technology?
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>>108526109
Why has he not tested anima yet? I need to know his thoughts.
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>>108526109
>a cockroach getting his opinion forged by (((CNN)))
sounds about right
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>>108526053
and your solution to this would be what, training directly on the base model?
please don't say something retarded like latent space reference.
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Based Noob team hasn't even started training Noob2 yet and they're already giving us their dataset for us to train wherever we want.
https://huggingface.co/datasets/PoTaTo721/Noob-Edit-OSData
>>108525302
Where the fuck is tdrusell's recaptioned dataset? I don't like Cosmos.
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>>108526127
>already giving up on GLM image
Oh no oh no oh no.
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anima v3 when
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>>108526127
>and tell us which model
SDXL
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>>108526127
>their dataset
It's Lodestone's dataset. I'm not even joking.
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>>108526150
anima preview the fellowship of the flop
anime preveiw 2 the two flops
anima preview 3 the return of the flop
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What happens now after anon failed yet again to provide convincing proof that anima is a broken model
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>https://huggingface.co/circlestone-labs/Anima/discussions/111
It's over!
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>>108526174
You'll memory hole it just like you did with Z base, and now you're waiting (again) for Lodestone finetunings like last year.
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>>108526186
>women's leggings
>women's
It's 2026 chud, individuals identifying as male can wear whatever pants they like.
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>>108526087
>you've got a lot of trani lore to catch up on
QRD?
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>>108526186
The worst part is tdrusell is gonna train this bug and make Anima forget more important concepts just so that one person can have different types of pants
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>>108526217
what if his endgame is making it forget pants altogether? a pantless utopia awaits.
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local is saved
https://civitai.com/models/2517332/fisting-gay-26000-image-generator
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>>108526237
Don't forget Sarah Peterson
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>>108526237
>he doesn't already have a bespoke gay anal fisting lora trained with a carefully curated artisanal dataset of over 30,000 gay anal fisting images.
not going to make it.
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>>108526195
>z cant be trained
>but lodestone is currently training it
Huh?
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>>108525422
You trained a lora for momo, every member?
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>>108526074
>is *ni still shitting up the threads
Yes, he still wastes his all day here
>what's the current meta
For *ni:
Fudding anima (his new self-declared arch-nemesis)
Shilling SAAS
Concern trolling about SAAS and calling things that are not SAAS, SAAS at the same time
Concern trolling about licenses of models he doesn't like
Giving general troll responses to legit questions to derail the general
For anyone else:
Using Klein 9b for editing
LTX 2.3 for video
Anima for anime/booru/nsfw
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>>108526123
The solution is to ignore lora copers. tdrussel shouldn't need to concern himself with 'lora training performance' because it's completely irrelevant. The base model can render both characters and artist tags just fine. If loras don't work on it or break the model when trained, then that is the fault of outdated lora tech and not the fault of the base model. If Flux dev, Z Image, and anima (3 models with different architectures) all 'collapse' when lora training, then it's the fault of loras being outdated shitware rather than the models. Complaining about loras not working is like complaining that models don't run on 2022 A1111 or a 2020 build of cuda. Update your tech to keep up, it's loras that are broken not the models.
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>>108526610
so nothign serious happening on the klein or Z finetune front? Any epic new lodestones failures?
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>>108526461
>You trained a lora for momo, every member?
Just this one, but I probably have datasets for more members. Says Momo from Twice.
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>>108526670
troll post so good i almost engaged with it more than this
>>108526674
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>>108526712
>youre not going to believe this but loadstoned is training both as we speak
mite b good if the retard just trains the model and isn't performing any frankenstein surgery on them like with his previous attempts
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>>108526670
>loras being outdated shitware
trvke
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mental illness
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>>108526737
Well his Z tune is another doomed Frankenstein surgery.
His Klein tune was supposed to be more normal training, but it's also shaping up to be another failbake so probably fucked it up with schizo parameters again. (Or maybe Klein just doesn't respond well to tuning as some say) He is also training on the shittier small model for license reasons, and there haven't been any updates for a month so maybe he gave up.
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MYTH: api models are censored
FACT: api models are less censored than local models and are in fact trained on NSFW imagery

MYTH: api models are too expensive
FACT: it's actually quite cheap to use API through ComfyUI API Nodes. the price for api has went down in comparison to the price of hardware

MYTH: api nodes collect your data and are unsafe to use
FACT: api is safer than local because nothing is stored on your hard drive. with local models, you need to download hundreds of loras and custom nodes, any of which could be infected

MYTH: an api can pull the plug at any time, why use something like that?
FACT: everything you generate can be saved to your desktop so nothing is lost

MYTH: it's impossible to train a custom style of character with api, loras make local way better
FACT: api can learn any style or character with a single image reference, which is much faster and smarter than loras

MYTH: if i buy api credits and don't like the model, that's money wasted
FACT: comfyUI's API nodes credit system allows you to prompt hundreds of cutting-edge api models. the credits share between models so you aren't locked in to any one ecosystem

MYTH: api users are poor and from third world countries
FACT: the top hollywood productions and anime studios all use api models. api is the weapon of choice for everyone world-wide

MYTH: discussion of api models is off-topic
FACT: api models are part of the comfyui experience and are relevant to this thread. combining api models with local workflows is still local
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>>108526164
based analogy. preview3 will be the best if the slop trilogy. anything after is hobbit garbage
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>>108526757
indeed
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>>108526821
>MYTH: api users are poor and from third world countries
>the price for api has went down in comparison to the price of hardware
should have asked chatGPT to write it out for you bro.
unless you did, that would be the icing on the cake.
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Raise your hand if this guy; >>108526821 has ever convinced you to switch over to (or even try) an API model.
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>>108526670
And what about the comfy cloud agenda? Last year when comfy was here posting with his avatar, he openly shared his opinion that he didn't like LoRAs and wanted to make his own LoRA format because he was annoyed by all the different LoRA architectures out there.

>>108525302
This is sad for an anime model desu, LoRAs are part of our lives.
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doom posting at a level previously believed to be impossible
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Does having too many loras affect the gen quality of images unrelated to them? Like, if i have multiple (subject and background) realism loras and i use danbooru tags for illustrious will those realistic loras somehow "damage" the gen?
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>>108526999
Yes even at stenght 0. Bypass them.
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>>108526999
>realistic loras somehow "damage" the gen?
I think you could upset them, better be safe not end with poltergeist situation
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Can I do image to video with my 7900xtx?
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>>108525302
This looks bad, especially since it's not like SDXL where they've been feeding it data for years.
>data cutoff september 2025
How long can this model work like this? It is like half a year outdated at least.
Maybe we get seasonal Anime models? Lol
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>>108526872
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>>108526999
Yeah, they compound on each other if they're trying to influence the same layers. The stuff you find on Civitai is usually really overfit too, so that'll fuck things up even more.
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Don't worry guys, we have better, updated, free and local anime models like ....... wai?
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>>108526999
>Does having too many loras affect the gen quality
Yes.
1: Loras are trained on base models or random shitmixes, not with the weights of other loras merged into base model. Each lora adds more compounding incompability.
2: Most loras are trained in mediocre to shit ways. It's difficult to train a lora without frying or needlessly lowering compatibility. You might luck out with a single lora or two but when using multiple some are guaranteed to be shitty.
>if i have multiple (subject and background) realism loras and i use danbooru tags for illustrious will those realistic loras somehow "damage" the gen?
Three things.
1. "Realism" loras are also trained with booru tags captions so that's not an issue.
2. Everything else I also said before apply. So most likely they won't combine well.
3. Most illustrious realism loras, in my experience are poorly trained and fried. They are useless. Fucking pony realism ones worked better back in the day.
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>>108526999
improperly trained loras do. I can't tell you how many times I've used a clothing lora and it straight up changed the entire style of my image.
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it sounds like we need a replacement for loras
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>>108527203
>it sounds like we need a replacement for loras
We need to replace faggots
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I trained an Anima checkpoint with an old slay the princess dataset tagged with Joy Caption Alpha 1. I just wanted to see if it had problems forgetting things or learning new styles. Here's a buncha random tests combining with other styles and a few other characters, seems fine to me. I trained it with the prodigy optimizer. I probably could have done a lot more to get a better product (better dataset, better training settings) and it still seems decent. I don't really trust anything Bluvoll has to say in the matter, he has a pretty clear conflict of interest since he's training his own slop model.
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>>108527221
You just replied to one
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how are people using seedance 2.0 if its not out yet?
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5 years later and we still cant use 2 character loras together without regional coper. why did the tech stagnate??
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>>108527228
I don't trust his fud neither.
Though worth acknowledging things may differ between making a small lora vs large scale finetuning.
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>>108527228
FUDsissies... ? Our response???
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>>108527142
Long term vision? I think WAI will last 2 or 3 more years from what I see now. Anima failed badly and even the Noob 2 developers are not sure about GLM.
Small observation: they want to make Noob 2 an edit model, so they want to build something that can edit SDXL outputs or replicate new characters in GLM and completely eliminate the need for loras.
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>>108527228
Faggot the ones complaining where finetuners that trained at least 15k images not a single character
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>>108526975
what do you think a lora is?
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>>108527228
thank you for posting a non disingenuous test anon.
>I don't really trust anything Bluvoll has to say in the matter
i dont know why his claim is being repeated so heavily. i cant remember any other time verifiably false information was spread this hard about a model
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>>108527265
If people seriously want another SDXL model, it needs to be a full scale retrain and not a shitmix on top of another shitmix.
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>>108527228
It’s not that hard, anon. Neta Yume, the Hassaku dev, that other dev who trained on a small 15k image dataset, and Blovoll (who originally wanted to train Anima) are all on Discord and easy to reach. Just go ask them directly about their experiences. They openly share their failed attempts too, one single character and cherry picked gens aren’t proof of anything.
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>namedropping literal whos
trani smell
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>>108527326
>and all of them want to do different shit
This is why local is fucked
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>>108527332
Discord hobby
Discord general
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>>108527228
>>108527332
tdrussell used to be a literal who outside of this thread and only marginally notable here for being a dev that lurked and posted. everyone whoss "proved" that anima is DOA is even more of a literal who than that kek
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oh he's crying because anima doesn't have a trooncord. another anima victory
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>>108527359
>anima doesn't have a trooncord
He will forever be based for this
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euler a is shit
there, is said it
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why does anon spend so much time in here if he
1. hates local diffusion
2. hates new models
3. does not post any gens
4. hats specific posters of this thread
idgi
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>>108527402
Yeah, especially since this isn't even mainly an anime themed thread and no anime thread is getting fucked with this Anima fudding so hard. It's like whoever's responsible for this wants to stop people from posting anime gens here.
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>your successful lora is a single example and doesn't mean anything
>my single failed lora is definitive proof the model is fucked
lmao
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>you refuse to share the hyperparams that didnt work
>i shared the hyperparams that did
makes you think
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>>108527448
>especially since this isn't even mainly an anime themed thread and no anime thread is getting fucked with this Anima fudding so hard
It's weird to go into the various anime specific threads across the site and see none or very little of it. Very weird.
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Does anyone have configs to share for a wan or ltx lora? There are barely any resources for I2V loras.
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strange how every anima fudder turns out to be a faildev obsessed with SDXL. it's a cult at this point
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>>108527519
Related to social-biology, learned homosexuality, sad!
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it also sounds like we need a replacement for comfyui

>>108527228
the complaints are about preview2 forgetting, not loras. fine-tunes destroy the model's knowledge so it's useless to fine-tune on top of it. loras just brute force whatever you trained with which doesn't really prove much because that's what they've always done
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>slopped 15k image "fine-tune"
kek
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>>108527566
show me the correct fine tune. Turdrussel couldn't
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post gens
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>>108527572
why would someone sink money to tune a model thats not finished training?
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>>108527577
thread schizo
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>>108527519
You can take out the obsessed with SDXL part and just say failed dev kek
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>>108527359
This is underappreciated.
He is forcing the discourse to be done on an archivable public forum that can be indexed by search engines like hf.
On the low chance that someone might want to revisit this model years later he will be able to find plenty of information, unlike many other cordtranny models where the shitcord will get deleted and the information will be lost. (On top of other unsavory problems like cord culture)
He is so fucking real for this.
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>>108527581
why would a company continue to sink money into a failed anime model that forgets the more it's training?
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>>108527353
now he's the pony dev and we have the pony dickriders again. time is a circle
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>>108527607
what "company" finetunes local anime? its always been a single deranged perverted chad
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houston we have a problem
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>>108527616
This would make more sense if score tags were not optional
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>>108527617
comfyorg? circlestone labs? Noob2 is entirely funded by a saas focused chink company that doesn't want it to be local. are you retarded or something?
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>>108527628
they aren't. they will always be fucking with the style priors because the dataset sucks ass
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>>108527629
>comfyorg? circlestone labs? Noob2
all created after a single anon sunk their own resources into something
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if noob 2 is saas that would be based. anima's biggest flaw is how small the model is, it's a bit retarded at complex scenes compared to models like qwen.
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>>108527644
since when was NAI a single person?
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>>108527653
NAI trains local anime?
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>>108527648
it's glm. doa
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>>108527656
what do you think the first local anima model is? NAI leak is what started all of this
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>>108527663
NAI purposefully leaked it?
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>>108527623
Just use the designated shitting bag.
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>>108527519
You really upset him with this one
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>>108527670
this was actually a theory back in the day. they leaked it so that localkeks would grow complacent with the NAI leak instead of training their own better model. it actually worked for a while too
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>>108527695
why did anon bring it up if its a completely different situation than >>108527617
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>>108527704
i dont know im not that retard, i just felt like sharing an old post given that everyone is still arguing about api and local 3 years later
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>>108526872
gobbo sexo
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>>108527704
because it's normally been companies making these anime goonslop models. it was never an individual
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>>108527722
noob was a single person
pony was a single person
anima is a single person
illustrious was the only lab
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Am I meant to use Lora detailers during the first gen, or in high res fix 2nd pass? Using noobAI by the way
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>>108527735
>he doesnt know pony was a slide-op funded by NAI to sabotage local
https://huggingface.co/AstraliteHeart/pony-diffusion-v2
>This project would not have been possible without the incredible work by the CompVis Researchers.
>Waifu-Diffusion for helping with finetuning and providing starting checkpoint
>Novel AI for providing compute
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>>108527735
no, noob is a team and they just fine-tune illustrious with different arches. They get their compute from a Chinese company

yes, ponydev was pretty much alone and did it himself but it's just a cursed fine-tune that managed to break the sdxl censorship.

anima is a single guy that had to make a company and the model commercial in order to get the compute from companies.

I suppose there is lodestone too but he doesn't focus on anime and neither did ponydev
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if anima would be good there wouldn't be any need to shill for it 24/7
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if anima were actually bad there wouldn't be any need to shit on it 24/7
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If local was good it wouldn't need its own cope thread
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How much faster is nvidia than gaymd? I'm getting 1.14it/s on my amd card with anima.
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>>108527758
Lora detailers are snake oil.
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>>108527781
~50% faster but just use noob checkpoints and you won't notice anything different
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>>108527772
noob was trained on gpus "stolen" from university by a single person
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>>108527781
What card is this? 0.57it/s on 3060.
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>>108527799
7900xtx

>>108527792
I like anima more so I'm willing to deal with the slower speeds
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>>108526213
my personal favorite
1/2
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>>108526821
>FACT: api can learn any style or character with a single image reference, which is much faster and smarter than loras
show me 1 (one) api that can do tha with 1:1 fidelity to the original characters from all angles
if api was that good nobody would be using loras
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>>108527814
2/2
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>if api was that good nobody would be using loras
freetards aren't here for the tech, they're here to push an ideology. they are the neo-luddites of the AI age
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>>108527545
>the complaints are about preview2 forgetting,
if you completely change the architecture and then do no further training then yes all models will get worse. thats why the catastrophic forgetting line is a nothing burger
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>>108527784
it sure feels that way.
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>>108527545
I thought no one was going to finetune it anyways because of the license.
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108527834
still waiting for the magical api that perfectly replicates any character you feed it with a single image
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>>108527858
yeah he had to change his tactics after cattower of all people created a tune kek
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>>108527810
This is not how it 100% works but it loosely holds up for other Nvidia GPUs so for reference 3060 has fp16 performance of 12.74 TFLOPS and 7900xtx has 122.8 TFLOPS. Giving a gap of 9.6 times. While we only have twice the speed gap.
So your performance is crippled roughly 4 times as gaymd tax.
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>>108527867
it's called gpt-2, uni-1, and nano banana pro 2
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>>108527867
NAI with character reference
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>>108527873
>>108527875
alright thanks. I'll check if they're as good as you claim.
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>>108527873
And what about MAI-Image-2?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETNOsR3Y8Ps
Why Midjourney is still the only model that can make sovl images in the year of our lord 2026???
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Mugen is actually very good, shame it costs so much to train. Should've been done soonerTM. Textures and colors composition are kino, but it's still half baked and needs another 8k. Being SDXL and how coomslop fried the community is, doubt they'll keep funding a SDXL Noob model and will just support Anima or whatever slop with dissolved artist tags is arround.
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>>108527869
Hopefully the next gen cards don't cost 2 arms and a leg. Nvidia support on linux seems to be much better these days so I'll probably switch.
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Are there really no good sloptunes for ZIT, Base, Klein, etc. yet....? I just wanna make some gooner 2.5D, sob sob...
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Mindbroken for 2+ months now if we're only considering the anima meltie
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>>108527869
I wonder if you are paying some disproportionate bf16 tax though.
Hey OP >>108527810 if you have kj nodes installed, can you use Diffusion Model Loader KJ node and set compute type to fp16? Don't touch the rest of the settings.
Please inform me if you experience speed difference of more than 10%
>>108527957
I have been on Nvidia Linux since beginning of 2024.
Feel free to ask I suppose.
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>>108527976
nice style congrats
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>>108527814
>>108527828
the jeets lost. their site redirects to https://www.anijam.ai/

how much money do you think ani got from the settlement?
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>>108528035
lost
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finally tried out klein, it fucking sucks
why does it give so many deformaties & never does prompts right?
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>>108528069
isn't klein the edit model?
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>>108528069
it's censored BFL slop released to promote their API, but local is so devoid of models that they're still coping with that crippleware.
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>>108527976
If you can get the same level of shading on the ass that you achieved on the arms and forearms, I'm gonna 'oom. I know there's barely any muscle definition in that area, but maybe you could work some detail into the thighs or the buttocks cheeks or something. The character looks good and very curated overall, but when you look at the ass it turns into that typical generic look.
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>>108528069
Works on my machine.
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>Open source Seeddance 2 dropped
Why haven't anyone talked about this?
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>>108528134
we did until we looked at what it was trained on then we didn't bother
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Are there any modern NSFW-capable image gen model/finetune that works with danbooru tags?
I want to get with the times and migrate from SDXL but boomer prompting bores me, specially when they require an essay to understand what you want
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>>108528147
chenkin noob, chenking rf f2vae and that's pretty much it. both are early in training
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>>108528147
Just use Chroma or Pony v7. They still mog any new bloated model anyday



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