Are you device hoarding? I bought a used Samsung S24 on eBay because I wanted a better camera and battery life for my vacation. I just sold my old S21 FE to someone else. Why would you spend $1k for a brand new device that is only marginally better than older models? Plus I'm saving the planet by reusing old devices.
Theres no point in upgrading anymore.
The only reason I could even see someone upgrading is for a better camera. And as someone who doesn't give a shit about that, I just get a 4 yo phone for $150 on ebay when the old one inevitably breaks after a couple years. Works exactly the same as any other phone
>>108525913Translation >Oi vey
>>108525913>buy a laundry machine>it lasts 20 years>washer and dryer industry still doing fine
my 2019 iphone still works just fine idek what model it is
Shut the fuck up Kevin you stupid malaka. Buying a new phone every year benefits nobody long term. Make good devices that last you fucking retard.
>>108525913Don't want another prison phone, iphone or android. They both are locked down and I refuse to continue with that sort of hardware, my next purchase will be a cyberdeck with Linux or a small Linux compatible laptop
>>108525936It feels worse than that, not only is a new device not a guaranteed upgrade, in some cases it's a downgrade.>hey its like the phone you already had except the bootloader is locked now. For your protection :)
>>108526018Problem is the phone industry is an oligopoly and they don't want you going outside of their bubble. If we actually had a free market, there would be plenty of service providers and Linux based devices.
>>108525913>productivity and innovation lag>smartphonesnever paying more than $150 for a chinkphone
Make a new phone that's actually better than my old one, and I'll upgradeNo, just making the software shittier so I need more processing power and memory to do the same shit doesn't count as making something better
>>108525913Why would you ever buy a new phone if the one you already have works just fine? I can see why normies do it because they're vain status slaves that need to keep up appearances but for literally everyone else it just doesn't make sense. My pixel gets 7 years of software updates, and I only use it for occasional web browsing and making phone calls. It just doesn't make sense to upgrade until the very last month of EOL.
>>108525913A little bit. I just won something that was made in 2001 for $25.
>>108526308>My pixel gets 7 years of software updates>updootingYour phone will be slow as shit with tons of bugs long before 7 years from the bloated updates.
>>108525991>better cameracamera are physically limited by the amount of light that passes through the lens.phones have such small lenses that 99% of the camera is post-processing. Yeah, I know you can increase exposure, but that's not possible for videos. and for long exposure photos, you need to stabilize the phone, photograph a static object.if you export the raw pixels at the highest resolution, you'll get an horrendous image with noise, aberrations, blur due to exposure, etc.it's legit impressive how much processing happens in your phone.
>>108526331I bought a pixel 5 years ago, and everything still runs as smooth as when I got it. I had the battery changed last year, and now it's good to go for at least 5 more years.Maybe it's a (You) problem for running bloated apps
>>108526075there are linux-based devices. they are typically more expensive than android, but that's because phone companies make their margins on software that comes pre-installed on the phone.For me there's only my music client that doesn't have a good linux equivalent. The desktop client wasn't made for phones at all sadly.
>>108526331Meh. I've already had mine for two years and I don't really see any slowdowns. The 12gb of ram should also work nicely with future android versions. If your vendor's shipping upgrades with unpatched bugs then maybe you should switch to a more competent vendor.
>>108525913still using my Galaxy S9
>>108525913>Why would you spend $1k for a brand new device that is only marginally better than older models?For me it's charging time. I used to care about MicroSD and 3.5mm, but really the constraint is how fast that fucking battery can charge. The S26 Ultra that Samsung just shit out in the US Market has 60W charging, which is fucking nutters. I think the chinese have 100W phones which is just...wow.Processing power is irrelevant, all I do is browse YouTube and the internet and check email, I don't know anyone retarded enough to use a cellphone for gaming, and really, Gemini or Claude or GPT can do all the heavy lifting for me anyhow.
>>108525913>THINK OF THE ECONOMY IT'S BELOW 50000 RIGHT NOWAWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHow long until they unironically start sending out SS squads in the US but they don't kill or deport anyone they just forcefully smash every electronic device older than 3 years?
>>108525913My recent ulefone purchase probably did more to to kill "productivity and innovation" than not buying.>>1085265875G has opened up a lot of Chinese phones available to be used in the US market.
>>108526397What music client?
>>108526780dsub, I use sonixd/feishin on desktop, but they're dogshit, bloated and slow compared to dsub.
>>108525913>Are you device hoardingI think there is a distinction between acquiring things just to keep them as opposed to buying a thing and using it for a long time. The first is wasteful consumption whereas the second is thrifty and kind to the environment.That clarified, let me answer the OP's question.I use my computer every day and I have been using it since January of 2014, twelve years ago. It's run two versions of Windows, two BSDs and uncountable Linux Distros. Right now I use Slackware as my daily driver, but other partitions have other distros, including an LFS. Aside from the BSDs, no OS has ever had a problem with the hardware. I never hit swap, so I have more than enough RAM. The only physical upgrade ever needed was the internal drive, bigger each time. ;) I make music, process video, write programs and play games without feeling any slowness.CPU speed is not advancing any more, so there is far less reason to buy a new computer nowadays. Until American companies start making computers again, the tariffs make this a *bad* time to buy a new computer.p.s. Cell phones can't be kept this long. Five years *at most*. Hardware is still good but the software won't run any more. Big racket there on the part of Big Business.
I was going to buy a new computer for the 5080 Super. You did it to yourself.
>>108526117>buying cheap e-waste>instead of paying $500 for a flagship chinkphone and using it for 6-7 years (even more with custom roms) without compromisesYou are unironically missing out.
>>108525913>don't substantially increase wages to match inflation for decades>price of virtually all electronics absolutely skyrocketing to retarded levels thanks to AI grifters >>"NOOOOO! WHY ISN'T ANYONE CONSOOOOMING WORTHLESS SHIT THEY DON'T NEED WHEN THEY CAN BARELY AFFORD GAS AND GROCERIES!?"why are kikes like this?
>>108525913Ironically it's precisely because companies decided to deliberately engineer their products to fail so people would buy more I kept holding on to older stuff that just works. If I could buy a TV that didn't shit the bed in 3 years and didn't have massive amounts of spyware built into it I would buy one, but I can't so I keep using my 20 year old LCD TV.
>>108525913>tariffs make chinkshit more expensive>americans buy less chinkshit
>>108525936This. You can now run +15 year old devices with little penalty unless you’re gaming or doing heavy analytics.
I will use this Galaxy S21 until it dies or they drop 5G.
>>108525913>use the same phone for ten yearsI need a new phone...
>>108527573YOU ARE SUPPOSED TAKE THEM ON CREDIT AND BE DEBT SLAVE FOR THEM
Think of the heckin economy
i use a pixel 2 xlthe fact that it has the XL model battery means that even though it is ragged and old it still lasts longer than average 1yo iphone battery lol
>>108525913>spend $1kThere are good phones for a lot less. Anything past $300 is luxury as far as I care.
in b4 "cash for clunkers" but for old electronics to "stimulate the economy" these things being made overseas sours the deal though
