Why are todays' CPUs squares even though rectangular CPUs are far superior aesthetically.>sqeerrs are rectangleYes, I know squares are rectangles. You know what I mean.
>>108526404People fear the centipede.
>>108526404I don't know but it probably has something to do with CPU sockets being squares and actual CPUs being boards to mount systems on which used to make up the entirety of picrel
>>108526443>cpu manufacturers adapt to socket sizei hope this is baitwe still have rectangular cpu. in fact most xeon/epyc are rectangular, nvidia gb200 is rectangular if you count that as a processor
I'm about to blow your mind op>your "rectangular" cpu
>>108526497I was going to sost something similar. The black case is mostly just contacts.
>>108526497>your modern "square" CPU
>>108526495This is not bait, I meant most common processors in consumer hardware are squares, I'd like your input on the rest of my post.
>>108526609cpu sockets are whatever the cpu manufacturer decides. they could make it a triangle for all they care.the socket is just an electrical interface, there's no reason to use any particular shape. but even consumer cpu aren't exact squares, they're often slightly rectangular
>>108526404grin array could be a rectangle but you want a square thermal interface
>tfw they start making different shaped cpu's >suddenly non of my coolers fit anymore, need to buy new ones for that specific shape instead of using an adapter for am4, am5, intel etc Surprised they haven't done that. They could earn more money by forcing people to buy new coolers.
>>108526779AMD or Intel doesn't sell coolers anymore. The only people making money are third parties but it also pisses off enterprise when they have to redo their entire server cooling just because the CPU changed shape.
>>108526790Exactly, but they COULD. In fact it would be right up the alley of standard corpo greed. Make the shape, sell the only coolers on the market that fit. When other manufacturers start catching up, you make a new shape. Repeat.
they should make them through hole again too so i can use them
>>108526932You do realize that there are different Mobo and case form factors right? They can't create a cooler that works with everything. If they do then you get Intel stock cooler or wraith spire which can't cool anything better than 65w.
>>108526514>>108526497Why did they switch the packaging of the connectors? Are squares better when you have to attach a cooler of some kind?
>>108526514>>108526497LMAO
>>108526497>>108526514YOU MOTHERFUCKS
>>108526497>>108526514this shouldn't make me this mad
>>108526404the cores are not square
>>108527085I don't know for sure, but on the squares you're using more of the real estate. The rectangles only had pins on two sides where the square uses all four.
>>108527806Pins on the edges are just too few for any modern processor.
>>108528101Why not just make more pins then?
>>108526779Kill yourself stupid tech/financially illiterate retard.They gain 0 benefit from doing that outside of 3rd party manufacturers profiting, and even if they did make coolers themselves they would be a drop in the water considering desktop PCs are a dying breed compared to all different kinds of computers in the market
>>108527085Don't know for sure, but heat reasons probably yeah. Those longer packages were used on tons of simple digital corcuitry back before CPUs were a thing, so they probably kept using them out of inertia, lower costs than new packaging and early cpus being much less energy dense, but a rectangular package that thin makes no fucking sense for good thermals. You want the heat to get spread around evenly on all directions. Pretty much all of current day integrated circuits have a square packaging for that reason as even smaller circuits like data converters are getting to energy densities where dissipation becomes a concern.
>>108528539>Those longer packages were used on tons of simple digital corcuitry back before CPUs were a thingOr rather, tons of circuitry in general. I've seen packaging like that be used for opamp arrays.
>>108526497Look at those cute baby cpus. And that's with a much bigger transistor size. You could probably fit one on like a 0.5mm x 0.5mm die nowadays. Probably smaller.
>>108528471You figure how to put all these connectors on the edges.
Easier to route the board
>>108528497>Desktop PCs are a dying breedThey will make a comeback just give it some time.
>>108528581You could still make it into a rectangle, just with that type of pin. The shape itself was probably changed for thermals.
>>108526404the chips needed more pins for addressing and I/o and it was not economical to make those in a dual inline package.Imagine if a modern 1718 pin cpu had to be put in a package like that. The metal for the pins alone would cost more than the silicon inside.
>>108526404>op is retarded: the megathread
>>108527085Maybe for cooling squares are rectangular due to surface area or something. I've heard Carmack and other tech guys say rectangular chips are superior due to getting more I/O on the edges or something.
>>108530355>Carmacklol>rectangular chips are superior due to getting more I/O on the edgesthis might have been the case in 1970s. after that decade? lol no.
>>108526514>>108526497I am sick to my stomach. Such a great betrayal.
>>1085264041. Aesthetics don't matter for something you'll not be looking at very much, since your motherboard is usually kept in an opaque chassis of some sort.2. A square chip minimizes the time it takes for electricity to travel from the most distant points on the chip. When you need to shuffle information around billions of times per second, and the maximum speed that information can travel at is 299,792,458 meters per second, it helps to minimize the physical distance that information has to travel.
hear me outcpu spheres
>>108526404Have you niggers been living under a rock or something? We've had rectangular dies for the last 26 years
>>108527085Modern CPUs have hundreds, sometimes thousands of pins.It is horribly impractical to pack that into 2 straight lines.
>>108531403according to fucking morons that still think it's 1975, it should be possible.
>>108528471The 68000 is gigtantic and has only 64 pins, having pins underneath is objectively the best solution to the 16 bit question and beyond
>>108526495>ryzenwhy is it gaming shaped?