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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500

>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel

>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2

>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.

>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB

>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100

>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, destroying game art direction with AI slop etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b

>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
https://www.rtings.com/monitor

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2

Prev: >>108519424
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Do not trust the Intards or Nvidiot shills that brigade and spam these threads. Report and filter their posts.


Think for yourself. Only trust advice from all AMD PC owners.

>An all AMD PC for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
https://github.com/Agustinm28/Optiscaler-Client
New Optiscaler Client can auto install the latest FSR 4 to any game for RDNA 4/3/2
Memory prices have dropped some

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps: https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide: https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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Do not trust Radeon-tards, only trust advice from owners of only Nvidia+Intel builds.

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific uses + your BUDGET & COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 250K, 7/9800X3D, 14600K
Budget: 12400, 225F, 7500F
Workstation: 270K
*New AM5 AGESA BIOS dropped. Update for better RAM refresh.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount iffy)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x64GB (high-end)

>STORAGE
Keep SSD firmware updated
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Save money buy Gen 4 SSD
HDD prices increased due to AI

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
Midrange: 5070
Budget 4k: 5070ti
-The gpu you really want: 5090
-AMD: 9070/xt

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)
Ask before you spend $600+ on a monitor

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Use Noctua/Akasa silicone pins for quieter case fan use
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Already the troll is here to try and incite flame wars and shill people into buying garbage like cope ultra with his fake OP
Report and ignore
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>>108529189
the anime girl adds a gibson les paul to your inventory
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Got extra money. Is it worth upgrading from 7700x to a 9800x3d? I had a 5600x before that. Thinking one big upgrade that lasts me years n years is better than incremental ones.
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>>108529354
make the jump to 9800x3d
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>>108529354
no, wait for zen 6 at this point, it's 8 months away
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>>108529354
pass, maybe next gen if it's good.
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anon my am4 mb died. recommend me a new one
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>>108529461
b550 msi or asrock
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>>108529354
It's hard to give advice in that.
Like >>108529362 said.
We still don't know jack shit about zen6 and am5 still has atleast one more generation with zen6...

As far as future proofing theres no way to tell what will be valuable in the future. If your thinking about getting an x3d chip then zen6 'supposedly' has a larger increase in x3d cache that will blow zen5 out the watter. But if your focused on just getting an x3d chip now then the 9800x3d is going to be the most relevant cpu thats available today in the future, atleast on am5. A 9850x3d would be better, but so would a 9950x3d 2.
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Why does no one want amd
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I have a 5070ti and 12400f. just doing 1080p gaming at 144hz. sometimed im getting stuttering on multiplayer games. do i need to get a better cpu?
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>>108529514
probably, get a 14600k, shouldn't be too expensive, undervolt it and tune the memory
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>>108529514
heavily depends on the game but probably something else at play

>>108529509
same reason rdna3 doesn't get fsr4
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>>108529514
Get a 14600k, tune the memory, but overclock it until it can pull 300w for sick benchmark scores
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>>108529354
Just wait for the last gen of cpu's on am5. Then you can entirely skip the next socket.
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>>108529195
>>108529218
amd + nvidia or you're just a jew shill.
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>>108529684
sounds about right.
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>>108529684
this meme is so bad, you can buy 10 different 9070 xts with normal 8 pin connectors but every nvidia card uses that exact terrible connector
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>>108529716
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Are you guys trying to compete with the smartphone general or some shit to be the worst thread on the board
This shit is horrendous, nearly 30 replies in and all these posts have 0 value and are just low quality bait
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>>108529509
>John Peddie Research
thank you for letting me know I should disregard anything they say.
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>>108529739
reporting doesn't help either. sad general.
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>>108529739
no one comes to build a new pc because drumpf literally nuked the economy and the pc hardware market to help his crony friends get even richer, so there's nothing to talk about
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>>108529739
What did you expect when the OP who makes these threads regularly re-makes the general immediately once a real conversation begins.
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looking for a pvp mmo to play with my pc and it's so sad that throne and liberty is the only one that fills those boots these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY-h6Vjztlg
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>>108529809
play esports games for pvp. mobas fill the rpg role.
I play MMOs to chill. LotRO just got better UI upscaling support for higher resolution displays so I'm back to playing that outside Deadlock.
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>>108529354
get the 9850x3d or 9950x3d2
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>>108529825
speaking of chill mmos, swtor will be getting a directx 12 update this year, it's a fun game for the story alone
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>>108529855
SWtOR is probably the only F2P Western MMO I haven't tried.
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>>108529901
each class has it's own story and they are all pretty fun to go through, I would recommend trying the game after the graphical update hits
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>>108529855
>>108529901
>>108529921
I'll have to check it out.
Kotor was one of my favorite games growing up and I missed out on galaxies.
If the writing is anything like kotor then it sounds good.
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Anyone in here buy a pulsar monitor?
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>>108529954
use case of 1440p IPS at the price of 1440p/2160p 240+hz OLED?
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>>108529921
when is this supposed to release?
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>>108529984
oled is meme slop, I'm not buying an oled monitor ever again.
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>>108529990
"spring"
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1286830/view/507357499795440949
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I've tried dynamic frame gen and it's cool and all but it doesnt cap at my monitors refresh rate for some reason so I get screen tearing.
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>>108529759
cope
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>>108529993
so why spend OLED money on IPS?
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>>108530061
Because it looks cool
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>>108529954
I got an OLED monitor & the Pulsar doesn't justify the cost.
It's also better to wait for these first gen implementations to mature.
4K Pulsar might be interesting, but it will need 1080p dual mode for competitive multiplayer games.
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>>108529739
its been like this since last year, the nico nigger (amd schizo) and now the Intel schizo always snipe the general and if someone else makes the general they make one themselves anyways, confusing or misdirecring the people that actually need help.
Theres no chance of things getting better unless they block their ass from the whole board
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>>108529514
Might be a stupid question, but why not upgrade to 2k? Your GPU could easily handle it.
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Anyone need cheap monitors?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/306684447526
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Optimal fan set up for 5 fans?
Opinions on fans below the gpu as intake? ive read you shouldnt put the farthest back fan since it could block/interfere with the exhaust of the psu if its bottom mounted
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>>108530150
post a picture of the case
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>>108530155
its a corsair frame 5000d
It has 4 140 mm and I bought an extra one (same as stock) I was wondering if I should also get extra fans for below the gpu but the ones mounted in the shroud can only be 120
theres also space for side fans but Im gonna put that side of the case near a wall
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>>108530184
red and blue is how I would do 5 but I would buy 3 more and finish the job (purple)
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>>108530199
I forgot to mention Im gonna use an air cooler (dont like aios after 2 broke on me in 2 years each)
I didnt consider a top fan as intake
ill think about this set up, thanks anon
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there's another intake I didn't draw
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if amd would launch new and better am4 x3d chips and back port fsr4 int8 to rdna 2 and 3 people would instantly love them, but they want to be evil like nvidia
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>>108530132
What intel schizo? It's literally just nico and maybe like 2/3 people trying to bait him into having a melt down
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>>108530263
chip design takes years to complete. by the time they're done backporting zen4/5 to am4, zen6 would already be 1-2 years old
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>>108529984
This is true, but we really need rtings to put gsync pulsar monitors into their burn in benchmark.
It's really hard to actually burn in the display, since the backlight is just bunch of rows, and it would have a similar burn in as a mini-led (which is hard to burn in as well), but it should be possible in theory.
Also I want to see a pulsar display with a dead zone, to see how ugly it would be. I tried to search google but it seems nobody has experience it. yet.
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>>108530332
I've never heard of burn-in outside OLED, and isn't RTINGS paywalled now?
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>>108530323
at this point a 5800x3d rerun would be sufficient for the unwashed masses
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anon I have
>5070ti
>850w psu

what is the lowest possible spec for AI gen img workloads? I want it to be power efficient and cheap.
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Somebody talk me out of buying a 1500w psu for the 7800x3d and 5070ti build.
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>>108531137
you do you
fyi i'm using a 1000w gold psu with my 9800x3d+5090 build
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>>108531137
what you think happens
>buy 2000w psu
>run at 500w full load
>save money from platinum power efficiency
what really happens
>2000w psu
>500w max load
>still 1200w away from hitting efficiency band
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>>108531160
>still 1200w away from hitting efficiency band
QRD?
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>>108531183
buy a psu that does 15-20% more wattage than your system pulls under max load. pcpartpicker has a decent wattage calc when you list your items
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ill pretend its /pcbg/ related, do i get a vertical mouse? thinking about getting a logitech lift, my g pro superlight started double clicking and reverse scrolling
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>>108531218
15-20% sounds like dangerously low headroom for power spikes.
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>>108531183
optimal efficiency is about 60-80% of the psu's rated wattage
>power spikes
irrelevant if you get atx3.1 since the spec requires larger OCP margins on the 12v rails
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>>108529954
would be good if it would be a set and forget kind of thing but now to reach 60hz and whatever else you have to change settings and get out of the pulsar mode plus the flicker
all these hoops just to cope with a 1440p lcd
plus it's expensive as fuck
not sure I care that much

>>108529993
>I'm not buying an oled monitor ever again.
now you can buy an oled tv

>>108530149
kinda close in price to a 260hz ips imagine buying a 100hz

>>108530332
>schizoing over burn in on lcd even
we are declining
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any list for cheap SSDs? even 500g is fine.
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>>108529583
>nvidia
I don't buy from companies headquartered in Israel.
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Really disappointed in the lack of solid panel cases. There’s some fractal and the Antec wooden one. Literally everything else has a window, unless you go really alternative. I’m at the point in my life where I’ve completely abandoned rbg and only care about function.
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Any thoughts on the Antec HCG1200 Pro PSU?
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>>108531920
If you’re looking for an affordable psu just get a superflower one
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I'm way out of storage with my b450 tomohawk mobo. (4 SATA / 1 M.2) and that's the max limit. I've been looking for a sata to replace it but holy fuck that area seems way overpriced ($400+ for a 2tb). M.2 seems viable but I'm not sure if I can technically use an pcie adapter. Can someone check for me?
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>>108531570
dramless tlc 500gb is $100 now
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>>108531747
I love my Dark Base 900 and my Dark Base 900 loves me.
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>PC monitors
>Dim
>Samsung TVs next gen
>Matte
>Bad design
>LG TVs
>Best glossy layer even reduced reflections more next gen
>Improoved processing
Is matte that bad, you pretty much have to buy a G6 to get good HDR and an image now a days
it's over
LG seem to have won
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>>108531137
I'm using 1000w for a 5070 ti rog strix and 285k, and i plan to overclock

7800x3d needs "between 50W and 85W"

5070ti has what, a 600w cable

thats like 700w worst case scenario

do you really need another 800 watts on top of that? that's a second 5070 ti and then some

>>108531218
>>108531160
these people are talking nonsense
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>>108532546
>285k
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>108532550
A great CPU for great people.
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>>108532572
the 270k plus just mogs it.
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>>108532584
If you want to have the most powerful PC on the market, I suggest you sell your computer.

If you don't own one, then you'll always have the fastest hardware.
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>>108532572
9800x3d, 9850x3d, 9950x3d just mogs it
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>>108532606
Okay, go buy one then.
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>>108532597
you can return it and buy a 270k plus with that money. it's such a great cpu.
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>>108532623
Or I could keep my current CPU and not do what you say because I don't fucking want to?
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>>108532626
you can make money and gain in performance by returning it kek
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>>108532631
I can do whatever I want thanks you dickless loser
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>his $475 cpu gets mogged by a $300 cpu from the same company lmao
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>>108532606
I'm not relying on game bar. Maybe the 9950X3D2 will be worth while.
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>>108529189
Can we agree that 64 GB is the minimum amount of RAM you should have right now?
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>>108532675
don't need the gaybar anymore
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>>108532682
Please explain? I thought it was still borked.
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Can some one help me pls.
So i just ordered my 5G Motherboard but i have 10G internet.
Does that mean i have to downgrade to 5G internet?
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>>108532708
your speed is bottlenecked by the slowest part in this case the motherboard. you can buy a 10g network card.
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>>108532662
>His dad didn't buy him a 6090 and a 17th gen Intel 470k because he works for the government

wow get mogged hurr durr fucking actual room temperature IQ idiot, get flattened by a fucking cement mixer or have your kids die of aids or whatever gay shit is in for you in life, I wouldn't know what retards have to deal with because I am not one.
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the 285k is just a modern fx 8150
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>>108532717
just return your cpu and buy a non shit one instead.
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>>108529189
>japanese HD
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>>108532751
It's not shit it's a good CPU. If you want the very best you should just kill yourself because you're never going to be the best in life at anything, sorry retard but you failed the IQ check, now hurry up and kill yourself because you're not the best human being on the planet aka shit and worthless, sorry buddy, fucking kill yourself because you don't own the 10000x3d.
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What's funny is I could literally buy a 9950x3d and keep my 285k and this retard still wouldn't understand
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I thought Intel was killing their dGPUs. Did AI and the great demand save them?
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nllNYYEEEHHH ITS NOT THE BEST (AT THIS CURRENT EXACT POINT IN TIME WHICH IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND WILL NEVER ACTUALLY MATTER BYYEREHHGG) JORKS MY LITTLE MICROPENIS BECAUSE I WATCHED TECH REVIEWS WHO TOLD ME WHAT TO DO NYEEEEH CUMS FROM MY MICRDIXO BEXAUSE IM A 90 IQ RETARD
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JORKS MY LITTLE MICRODICK BECAUSE I BOUGHT AMD
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Sucks my dick because I'm a faggot hurr Durr dhrr
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Enjoy your cudimm bypass mode too you faggot
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>>108532796
see>>108532662 >>108532751
you can make money by returning it lmao
it's slower than the newer and cheaper cpu kek
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>>108532550
As if anyone in here does anything more than 1080p at 500fps autism.
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AIO’s are the biggest trap for gamers especially new builders. After your second build you’re pretty much over aesthetics.
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>>108532888
They don't put your bank balance on your tombstone
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>>108532910
personally I don't classify better cooling performance under aesthetics but you do you
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>>108532969
like 5 degrees better
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>>108532983
We don't classify better cooling performance under aesthetics.
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>>108532983
>makes less noise
>cools 15% better
>cpu performs better
>why yes this is purely aesthetics
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I'm thinking about getting into computers. How many giggas do I need in them
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Do you people actually use your hardware? Or do you jerk off over optimization tuning and synthetic benchmarks?
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>>108532913
They also don't put your rape convictions, so there's a lesson there.
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>>108533047
The people in this thread would be fine with a console and a chrome book.
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>>108532910
If your CPU doesn't need it sure but once it takes a huge and heavy fan that fucks with your clearance for a somewhat equal performance to an AIO fuck no.
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>>108533044
3.5

>>108533047
yes
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>>108533047
My 5090 pulls it's weight when browsing 4chan, watching YouTube, and playing old MMOs and VNs
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>>108533059
Fan clearance isn’t an issue unless you’re doing itx
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>>108532910
Nah I use mine to clear the socket and ram area to allowing ram cooling for significantly more stable OCs
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I’ve built computers since 2013 and I pretty much never do fan speed/curve adjustments. It’s plug n play for me.
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>>108533145
Literally the pc equivalent of having a big ass pickup truck just to drive through suburbia with a flatbed full of groceries.
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>>108533158
I hate computer noise. I replaced all my HDDs with SSDs. My case fans don't spin at all at idle until they need to at load.
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>>108533154
OCing is a valid excuse for an AIO though. OP’s point is your average gamer who’s using 32gb of ram that probably doesn’t even know how to enable expo, barely knows how to get into the bios, with their sole 2tb nvme, and does no overclocking whatsoever has zero reason to blow 250 bucks on a Kraken Elite just because it looks pretty. A trusty thermalright tower hovering over gskill flare sticks isn’t going to be the death of your marvel rivals match.



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