I can understand devs coding for free out of passion because its fun addicting and happens spontaneous when you know how to code. But why maintain a repo for nothing in return? You aren't making software and going through a creative process. You are just curating software for a large pool of ungreatful normies, some who hold MAGA values. Is RedHat and Canonical paying them to main repos? or are they delusional enough to be consumed by ideological propaganda that they need to serve the community, because the community rarely reciprocates. A huge chunk of the software I use nowadays is self compiled from the internet so I'm not a hypocrite and I make GIMP plugins to give back to the digital commons. I recommend they just switch to Flathub like repos an alternative because its less work. Because really how do you maintain shit on the AUR that is free labor for zero?I suppose this thread will be filled with counter arguments like Fedora and Debian's auto pull and build process and I know Fedora has paid Red Hat employees.
they are slaves to the system and too proud/stupid to admit it to themselves
Nobody looks like this
>>108533461its basically a gift economy for high IQ, altruistic white nerdseither you just get it or it will remain alien to you forever
>>108533461Well the AUR one is the more understandable one. Someone oftentimes will throw together a personal PKGBUILD for themselves, and decide to share it, cause why not. Packages on AUR are often dropped, exactly cause this original person that shared their PKGBUILD lost interest.As for official repo jannies, idk. It's a hobby I guess. I think that's what one of the Arch distro jannies said on reddit.
>>108533461For clout.Look at the creator of the Ralph loop. He began his e-celeb career by maintaining some shitty C# GUI library and then made $300k with a crypto token grift, not to mention all the jobs he might have gotten out of it.
>>108533686thisthey would doxx you and get you fired in 5 seconds because their corpo daddies told them tothere is nothing matrix or rebelious about this, it's just licking the feet of capitalism
>>108533775>a gift economy for high IQ>let's read the CoC>no fascists allowed because that's what corpo bluehaired PR lady told me to do, i'm basically fighting against the "opressive" system where 99% of universities are far left and prop me up for changing my genderlol
>>108533461>Is RedHat and Canonical paying them to main repos?Yes> are they delusional enough to be consumed by ideological propaganda that they need to serve the communityYes Plus grants for commies.Nobody does this for passion purely. You create software for passion, yes. But you maintain something only if you own it, are paid to do so, or maybe out of spite for some random corpos you hate.You do not maintain software for OTHERS to own the final product them wrap in GUI and sell, unless you're a cuck.
>>108533849you might be misled on what IQ is
>>108533461Microsoft invented being a repo janny toensure linux never gets popular
>>108533775>wasting billions work hours to constantly ship of theseus fix your own work, not to advance in any way but to remain as you were, is a "high IQ" endeavour
just like jewtubers they arent required by law to disclose their funding, cause you might find a certian tribe funding these "people"
>>108533948yes actuallyputting your hyperbole aside you cant name any complex system that needs zero maintanence or no occasional fixing
>>108533948If you're old, it's a perfect hobby honestly. Lot's of old people just maintain old stuff, in general, not just in software.But they are usually paid. Still employed, about to retire kind of people. Nobody does that for free.
>>108534011Linux distros don't need "some maintenance", they're almost entirely maintenance. What useful user programs has any distro created? Debian? Arch? Ubuntu? All they've ever made is package managers and I-can't-believe-it's-not-package-managers. All they know is package management. Everyone except system76 and pop is shipping a DE made by somone else to run programs made by someone else, even the distros aiming at the casual user can't actually make anything for that user, just add minor tweaks to somebody else's project.Complete waste. Imagine if microsoft had to expend work hours any time anyone made a program for windows, that's fucking retarded.
>>108533919the repo janny is the byproduct of 90s classic UNIX philosophy instructing them to never use copies on the same library. Back in the 80s when hard drives only had 1mb of disk space every kilobyte counted and static linking was a massive waste of disk space, as hard drives got larger this no longer became a problem, Windows and Mac shipped multiple copies of the same libraries. but Linux nerds still held on to the old habits.This problem was solved in late 90s by Mac and Windows but Linux was stubborn and holded out until 2019 until appimage and flatpak went mainstream. The repo janny is the real flaw with Linux. >>108533775I am convinced some humans are hardwired to be altruistic and communal and others are hardwired to be individualist and self sustaining, and most are in the middle of the two extremes. If I had my absolute wish with GIMP (or really any FOSS project) all I would do is make a third party plugin ecosystem to allow virtually anything from third party tools and expect the community to do all the work themselves developing said third party tools and I'd pledge never to break API compatibility outside of security risk That's how you get a thriving independent community of talented software devs instead of people of questionable morales that expect free labor.
>>108534097I know, but if you frame it as "microsoft made them do it" people stop clinging to "it's better because that's how linux does it"
>>108533461I think most men are wired to wake up and start working on something.I don't mean a job, I just mean tinkering or maintaining something. Going out and working in the garden, fixing up the car, doing woodworking in the shed. It's just the default male programming that makes up happy. Maintaining a repo online is probably the same kind of thing.When men wake up and just laze about all day or doomscroll it makes them depressed. The real question you should be asking is why are modern men NOT waking up and maintaining or working on things for no real reward other than they just kind of enjoy it.
>>108534097>humans are hardwiredyou're racist
>>108534359humans are not blank slates, they are the byproduct of culture and evolved survival traits interacting, and different cultures activate different survival traits and some people are more likely to behave certain ways. how is that racist?
>>108534604>how is that racist?because you are spouting ignorant nonsense?
>>108534691either you are trolling without substance or genuinely concerned about something you don't really understand.
>>108534691i was a racist in the past and got my ass kicked for it. Whenever GNOME (or any FOSS org) bans someone they also report them to Antifa global networks. Shorty after my ban I was thrown in the back of a van by masked abductors and taken to urban gulag camp where I was forced to do hard labor and anti fascist educational programming. I'm already released and a better person, I no longer post screenshots in GIMP of the n word in bold text or dehumanize people.
>>108533461I only maintain what I use. I don't do anything for other people. All my projects are stuff that I use personally. Hosting it online gives me the benefits of other people contributing.
Psyops. Same reason why social media companies do it for free. The ability to control what people see, the ability to influence elections with your algorithms, the ability to force subliminal propaganda onti a populace. Power is more valuable than money. Reddit mods literally get paid to promote certain things and ban criticisms of those. This is true for any kind of ((free))
>>108534866based mentality
>>108533717OP likely looks like that, though.
>>108533461unwarranted self importanceuseful idiots
>>108534866t. coping tranny janny
>>108533461I maintain software I create and use. I could make it private, but there is more meaning in sharing what I've created. Maximizing (beneficiaries) / (my labor) feels more rewarding than trying to yield profits. If I die in my home and the source code was never released, the time I sacrificed would be all for nothing. Here,https://ayasequart.org/g/thread/108533461#p108533461Ayase Quart (AQ) is a lot different than a C++ library.>It provides users with an alternative to Google/Reddit/Bing/etc search engines.>Hosting your own allows you to circumvent Cloudflare>Existing archives continue to decrease boards with search enabled>The existing archive software is difficult to set up (old php web apps that require docker)See Ritual for the archiver/api downloader. AQ is just the web app.You should reach out to the repo maintainers you have in mind and ask them politely why they contribute when they there are no financial benefits. Then report your findings later, if you want.
>>108534691I understand how the word "hardwired" can be misused to say racist things. Such as a bigot saying "blacks are hardwired that way" I didn't imply that. I meant in prehistoric times humans adapted to different environments with different survival strategies to survive and reproduce, and the winning strategies are the ones cultures enforce and governments are based around. I was implying collective resource sharing and individual survival skills are both winning strategies. These behaviors have way more to do with geological location and nothing to do with skin color, as after all high melanin is just the result of being in geological locations where sunlight is intense so the skin absorbs UV radiation. Sorry if you mistook my post about natural selection favoring individualism and collectivism as a bad faith racist claims. I am fully aware of the hurt racism causes and the harm I did by making racist memes with my GIMP plugins back in 2024-early2025 and I made it clear I would never do that again.
