Microsoft Publisher is officially killedWill you miss it?
Literally who?
>>108536129What do you think? Not all thoughts require a thread.
>>108536129It'll be merged into Word.
>>108536132Desktop publishing app. You can make books, magazines, brochures, flyers, posters, etc. in it.
>>108536265>books, magazines, brochures, flyers, posters,what are these things
>>108536129I think most people will probably migrate to Adobe InDesign or Affinity.
>>108536129My 2007 version is not going anywhere from that DVD I have from a flea market.
what the fuck is microsoft publisher
>>108536265>You can make books, magazines, brochures, flyers, posters, etc. in it.so..... Microsoft Word?
>>108536409Kinda, but Publisher puts much more emphasis on the layout and design than Word.
>>108536129I used this once in high school, it seemed pretty good for its use case.
>>108536135It should never have been separate from Word.>>108536129I'm nostalgic for even some of my worst memories, but no, it was a massive pain in the ass that took forever to load.
>>108536129As soon as CSS Generated Content for Paged Media is finalized, all these layout programs will become obsolete.https://www.w3.org/TR/css-gcpm-3/
>>108536444Also CSS Paged Media. https://www.w3.org/TR/css-page-3/
>>108536129My grandfather wrote a book about postage stamps used in the Austrian ruled Balkans during WW1 in Publisher.
>>108536438>It should never have been separate from WordWord should never have been such a piece of overcomplicated shit. That's the reson they made a separate product like that. Nobody could really use word efficiently, it was shit.
>>108536129>calling programs apps
>>108536409a (proper..) DTP program has both fine-grain control and lets you put shit anywhere. Word does neither, its fucking awful for layout. I'm surprised MS Publisher still existed, they didn't exactly advertise its presence.
>>108536444>>108536447Cool, though while I never used Publisher, I can't imagine something CSS-based ever replacing layout software for more freeform design. Something like a novel or textbook benefits from complete consistency, but things like brochures, posters, and (some) magazines will still be done best (or most easily) via graphical layout software.>>108536285I would like it if someday Scribus sucked less.
>>108536444>>108536447I want to believe. I really, really want to believe.But no, no web browser developer is going to give a shit about print layouts, ever. The only people who care are going to be Prince XML.
>>108536444Typst is better
>>108536129>a literal who program>APPdie
>>108536129i actually like publisher, along with visiowhen they kill visio then the office suite is officially worthlessputting visio diagrams in your word document and you can double click them to edit them is kino
>>108536409No, Word is for making documents.
>>108538000surprised Access still clings on grimly - I thought Excel ate its lunch years ago. Apparently, its still quite popular tho, despite being maybe MS worst UI ever.
>>108536409Ever tried to wrap text around an image in Word? Microsoft thought long and hard on how to figure out what it is you're trying to do so Word will be the complete opposite. In Publisher, that shit just works. In Word, it's like Clippy starting smoking crack while banging Cortana's corpse to decide what it thinks you're trying to accomplish.
>>108536265I can simply write my prose in Emacs org-mode as I do, apply a custom css and export to an .epub
>>108536470>calling applications progs
>>108536470This. This is so gay.
>>108540327MY CUSTOM CSS
>>108536129Amateur desktop publishing only existed for a short period of time between the advent of the personal computing with home printing and ending with social media.It never had the typography features to actually compete with professional software, so it's target use has kind of just disappeared. CSS paged media is closer to Word or LaTeX than Publisher so won't be a replacement. Word is terrible as soon as you're trying to do anything that isn't primarily in the main document text flow area.I'll just keep using InDesign
>>108536129i thought they announced recently that they were abandoning web only and moving back to desktop 'apps' (whatever the fuck an 'app' is)i assumed they were killing publisher for the same reason they were killing access; their devs were too retarded to make a reasonable attempt at it in html.that is, when i say reasonable, i don't personally consider word online or excel online, or sharepoint, to be a 'reasonable' alternative to word or publisher or explorer. but all of the mouth breathing retards that i work with none of whom know about e.g. document properites or templates in word, or use any formula or macro in excel, or use access at all, or use detail view in explorer, can tell the difference.when i was at school we made posters and we were told to use powerpoint. i used publisher because i thought using powerpoint to make a slide was stupid. but that is the official advice now apparently. i did use publisher occasionally to print sheets of labels/stickers and the setup was pretty simple. its simple in word too i guess just you have to copy paste into a table on the print size sheet rather than have a page per label and let the software duplicate it for you. which is pretty annoying.if anyone has looked at what you get with o365 online, i looked at one thing which was 'AI' powered learning helper where you paste in a block of text and it uses AI to make a fill in the blank game for you by removing what it thinks are key words. so i'm glad people are spending my subscription money to office on making UTTER SHIT LIKE THIS INSTEAD OF SIMPLY RERELEASING WITHOUT UPDATE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS SOFTWARE THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY FUCKING USE YOU CUNTS
>>108540804LaTeX is actually a competent layout program and a good replacement, unlike Word. The only disadvantage is that you have to be very autistic.
>>108540826latex isnt autistic enoughthere are too many built in like heading levels and page typesif you want to write a paper or a book then whatever but if you want to layout a custom document or template then the 'La' makes it harder.
>>108536265I've literally never seen anyone use it. At my old job we used InDesign, now I'm using Affinity 3.
>>108536265The one time I had to do this I used Adobe InDesign. I didn't even know Microsoft had their own thing.
>>108536132FPBP.I only know of a few employees where I used to work using it for advertisements before Canva was a thing.I never used it.
>>108536409It was more Adobe InDesign than MS Word. But in the same publishing (hurr hurr) world, yeah.
it was word with less support and functionality
>>108539690my "database" course what MS Access, grim shit
>>108540555If you can think of an actual reason to "update" the nomenclature, use that instead of just going "no u" like a retard.
>>108536135Everyone does this in Figma now.Figma balls.
>>108536129I remember using it a couple of times in school, but just preferred to use Word instead. It didn't even come bundled with Office for home iirc.
>>108536129Last time I used it was for IT courseworkThen people just forgot about it. Even Microsoft kept pretending it doesnt exist
>>108543591>It didn't even come bundled with Office for home iirc.more bizarre MS product management. It was never going to compete in the 'pro' DTP market ecosystem that Adobe owns, where there were issues enough just handing over PC InDesign files to Mac-only shops. But it was probably perfect for Mom-n-Pop's to knock up the odd poster or whatever, a task for which Word is, as said, clearly fucking useless. aka, exactly the market MS has spent the last 3 decades hiding the fucking program from.
>>108536129literally the only reason I would've ever bought MS office gone. at least there's still old versions because it literally has not changed at all in probably 20 years.
