>nearly the perfect phone>punchhole cameraWhy
>>108539038>phoneit's like calling a PC a typewriter.
I hate rounded corners so much.As to the answer to your question, it's because more people want a selfie camera than people want no hole. I fucking hate the hole too. Sony was doing it right. Redmagic also looks like they have a good approach, but it makes more people upset than it does make people happy. As always, normalfags are why we can't have nice things.
>>108539065Their logic is the forehead and chin areas are just wasted otherwise.I have always wondered how much more complicated and obtuse GUI development is as a result. Didn't the macbook notch throw a monkey wrench into its display resolution standards?
>>108539167>Didn't the macbook notch throw a monkey wrench into its display resolution standards?Hardly, it's just full 16:10 with the notch/menubar area on top being extra pixels.Their weird choice of resolutions is a bigger issue.
>>108539167>forehead and chin areas are just watedi hate these wordsbut they're also not fucking wasted because you need a place to hold this HANDHELD deviceor is everything run by designers who only look at pictures and no longer study ergonomics
>>108539167https://www.colincornaby.me/2025/08/your-mac-game-is-probably-rendering-blurry/>This issue has been open since September of 2023.>Which region does CGDisplayCopyAllDisplayModes return resolutions for? It actually returns resolutions for two regions:>Resolutions for the full area of the display (which are inaccessible for modern full screen AppKit apps.)>Resolutions for the area under the menu bar – which are relevant for full screen AppKit apps. On my MacBook Pro these resolutions are all 16:10.>The problem is that these resolutions are mixed in a single list with no built in way to filter.>Worse yet – most games default to the first resolution on the list. That happens to be the resolution of the entire display instead of the area under the notch. Out of the box most games draw using this squashed down output that mismatched.lol
>>108539038is it even an issue at this point when every phone these days uses a super wide aspect ratio? There could have been a bezel where that camera is, but instead they give you more screen for battery stats and shit
I hate it when they put it in the middle. Put it to the side, gets in the way less that way.
>>108539038I wish phones just had pop-up cameras like this.
>>108539227Have you used a phone before? Why do you need more bezels to hold them? You can buy a Sony if you really want.
because it's made of junk parts for yuropoors
>>108539038Jeet thread. Obsessed with cell phones
Literally every phone in the market is an anti-consumer glowie backdoor shitware and you superniggers complain about the camera placement.
>>108539038let me guessyou need more?
>>108539038>nearly the perfect phone>updates get released 2 years late>50% chance of bricking the phone>no grapheneOS support>no headphone jack
>>108539065>it's because more people want a selfie cameramaybe ten years ago but today the main purpose of the front camera is to scan your face every few seconds. we have infrared nanny cams in my house and its creepy seeing peoples faces get flashed by their iphones every few seconds. you can probably find it on youtube if you dont know what i mean.
>>108539056> PC It's like calling your programmable, electronic general-purpose computer an automatic calculator.
>>108539633nta but your hand engages the edges of the touchscreen if your phone is bare/caseless. unless you have one of those popout holders for women
>>108539065>more people want a selfie camera than people want no holethere's a fix for thatmy personal favorite phone
>>108540710Stacy doesn't like men with a lil pecker sticking out
>>108540928it only pops out when you're with the camera open and using the front cameraalso, who fucking cares about a woman's opinions on phones, not like I'm begging to fuck a stuck-up bitch
>>108540710>>108539428My old phone had this, I miss it so much
>>108540450it's also frickin expensive
>>108539038I really hate smartphone cameras. I don't give a fuck if it only has optical zoom and worse picture quality, I want my phone to be able to lie flat on a table for fucks sake.
>>108539428I wish phones had no retarded front camera for narcissistic faggots.
>>108540450It's baffling they would make a phone for weirdos who care about replaceable components but not include a headphone jack. Who do they think their customers are?
>>108539038Huh? What's wrong with hole- punch cameras? What's the alternative?
>>108539167oh no haha imagine having bezelshahaha imagine having a physical home button you press oohhh nooooo please don't do thathaha
>>108541172What's wrong? Maybe the fact that it puts a permanent fucking dead spot on the screen and you, being a good conditioned raped cattle slave, accept it to fit in with your peer cattle slaves.The alternative, is going back to bezels, or better yet, not including a "selfie camera" at all.
>>108541172it's a fucking hole on your screen, it looks awfula bezel gives you a uniform screen but it removes screen space, there's new under-the-screen cameras which solve the hole-punch and screen space, but you constantly have a camera looking at you, you have popout cameras which are way better and have a very visual way of seeing when the camera is active, but the very best is no front camera at all
>>108540710The glowies will never allow it because it can't spy on you
>>108541240>>108543028So, it is because it looks worse than bezels? Pop out cameras are more expensive to manufacture because you have a complex motor mechanism — that ruins waterproofing, accumulates lint, and takes up precious space inside you phone that could be used for a larger battery or a better cooling system.
>>108543346yes, my biggest reason for it is the looks, it's infuriating to look at
>>108543346No you retarded cunt. It's because it adds a fucking dead space to the screen. I don't care if it's just a little bit, and that software devs can work around it. There shouldn't be a fucking permanent black circle on my screen.
>>108543355You don't notice it after five minutes of using the phone... Even the iPhone with the large circtangular notch it's easy to forget about it. You must have some sort of autism perhaps? Then you get to overpay for a Sony with antique features.
>>108543785nope, I paid 80€ for 2 of these >>108540710I'm set for a decade at least
>>108541146>their customersPeople who have more money than sense and prioritise virtue signalling.I'm curious how many black people buy these phones to warrant using them exclusively in promotional material.
>>108543582So, you just prefer a thicker top bezel that takes up even more screen space?
>>108543958I have a FairPhone 3 and I am none of those things. But also mine has a 3.5mm connector, sd card and no holes in the screen.Never buying another FairPhone!Also, spare parts are so hard to get it's almost a scam.
>>108541172pre-punch hole phones have speaker blasting toward you which makes phone call much more audible
>>108543990The top bezel doesn't take up screen space you thick cunt.
>>108544148Huh? If a phone has a thicker bezel, it will have less real screen state.
>>108539038>no removable battery>no headphone jackno it's not
>>108540710is there anything released recently with that design? it's perfect
>>108543793It's not even that prone to so called mechanical failure. There was even a jeet who hanged gym weight on it and it still remained intact.
>>108544235go to gsmarena, they have a phone findersurprisingly there 77 models with popup but none of them are from 2022 or later, only 2020 or older phonesThe Oppo Reno2 is maybe the best, it has popup, headphone jack, microsd, and pretty good storage
>>108539056I agree. But what else you to call smartphones? Pocket PCs? PDAs?
>>108543958>I'm curious how many black people buy these phones to warrant using them exclusively in promotional material.Dunno, but i'm not buying it that's for sure.
SONY Xperia makes high end phones with a reasonable design. They're even compatible with Lineage and Linux mobile.
Meh, more slabs.
>>108539038Tis a good phone
>>108546577It's fair
>>108546431> headphone jack> sd slot> NO RETARDED HOLE IN THE DISPLAYI believe in Japanese supremacy
>>108546431love my xperia 5v. i think this was the last xperia model sony made in their own factory.
>>108547013>no removable batterydropped
>>108539186Yeah, great. Now get rid of the camera cutout, the extra pixels and the extra height on the entire laptop because both halves must match.
>>108539038>nearly the perfect phone>mid-range specs>550 euroreenosyeah no
>>108543346did you just em dash me, clanker scum?
>>108539065why cant we have a phone with no selfie camera this isn't 2013 anymore and not everyone is a woman
>>108547611It is impossible to type an em dash— unless you are an LLM.
>>108547637Because they are used for more than just selfies, such as video calls, sometimes for face unlock, etc. There were AN0M phones made by the FBI as a honeypot with no cameras and "military grade encryption" but had backdoors and those who used them for illegal activities thinking they were smart got caught.
>>108547611It's because it looks cleaner than a comma.>>108548043Besides, AI doesn't put spaces before and after the dash like I did.
>>108539038i have a fairphone 6 and it's a decent phone but it's too easy to disturb the display simply by holding the phone i your hand.>try to scroll>nothing>oh ok, a little bit of skin was touching the lower right
>>108539255NTA and I don't have a Mac, but on phones this is not a problem. On normal apps the "hole" is in the middle of the top bar, between notification icons and indicators, and for programs that run fullscreen it is well within the black bars anyway.
>>108539038>literally a tablet html reader for face zuck>phone
>>108539428
>>108539038I used to share your exact same thoughts but the graphene schizo pointed out that fairphone like many others rely on third parties to build the components in their phones. I thought every single thing was designed and manufactured by them. Quickly lost its appeal
>>108549163Yes, it's totally reasonable to build a niche phone out of completely custom parts you just need to build your own foundry, display factory, and dozens of other facilities...GrapheneOS relies on hardware they didn't create themselves either, whether currently with Pixels or their upcoming partnership with China-owned Lenovorola. So what is the schizo's point? Even the most popular brands don't build EVERY component for their phones themselves.
>>108544309>surprisingly there 77 models with popup but none of them are from 2022 or later,
>>108539038>muh tech enthousiast phone>removes headphone jackabsolute fucking lol at them killing their own company
>>108539065>As to the answer to your question, it's because more people want a selfie camera than people want no hole.that's not the reason. as a phone maker you cant validate a phone with google and get GMS (google mobile services) on it if it doesnt have a front camera. same as the meme with laptops having 1366x768 screens, that was a minimum set by microslop to ship windows
>>108548613https://medium.com/hackernoon/how-you-survive-the-notch-hell-on-ios-android-9badd9d6b935>the app does not match the style of other iPhone X apps — your user’s will realize this and your app will get a worse rating.super
>>108540710I still use thisPoco F2 Pro
>>108539056I've unironically replaced "phone" and "smartphone" in my vocabulary with "telephone"It drives people like you insane every time
>>108550331>em dash>May 18, 2018
>>108539428>>108539065>>108540710>under-screen cameras on life support after barely receiving any support since invention>if Apple doesn't adopt it it's another useful technology that will die due to cucked normies
