>>108543902
Windows 11 is the greatest version ever, because it's the one that finally got me to install Linux.

>>108543902
I went Windows 10 Professional -> Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC -> Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC.
I absolutely hated Windows 11. It is insidious and subtle in the faggotry they thrust upon every aspect of the OS. If I had been more wise, I would still be on 7 Home Premium. Thankfully I can hangout on GNU+Linux.

>>108543905
Windows is still the place for serious work, linux, any distro, any de, feels like a toy on the desktop. It always feels like a young child showing your their artwork, where you feel obligated to heap false praise upon them because you know they tried their best.

Windows 11 made me buy a MacBook

LTSC 2021 but if LTSC 2027 fixes the biggest issues that Microsoft recently promised (e.g. start menu and task bar written in Javascript/Electron/Edge) then I may upgrade later when I lack driver support or something for something else essential.

>>108543924
>I haven't used GNU+Linux
>I don't want to learn
Okay. Sorry about your brain problems.

>>108543902
Me and yes.

>>108543905
/thread

>>108543941
You're telling me for the first time... never heard of it.

>>108543902
It would take you a few month to get used to. They have changed some things for absolutely no reason. Honestly I don't know why they decided to do it. It is so lame in every aspect, probably someone rushed to do some AI slop and hoarded a big chunk of budget, promised new windows with AI to stakeholders, something like that.
There is no reason for 11 to exist as a separate OS, because it is not separate. Nothing is different about it, except some gimmicks that make it uncomfortable to migrate, while bringing no value, introducing nothing new.
It's a fake new windows version basically.

>>108543957
Yeah. Linux users are assholes pretending to be smart. Actual Linux devs don't even really treat Linux like a desktop OS. Always breaking shit like glibc, forcing everyone else to recompile the entire desktop. Responding to system breaking bugs with "we'll fix it next release. (And not making/pushing updates to fix borked systems)" Breaking drivers like their Via USB 3 controller leaving users that upgraded their kernel to find "surprise! No USB 3 for you." At the end of the day, the actual devs don't treat it like a desktop. Why should I?

>>108543902
everything still works on windows 10 ltsc so why update?

I still use windows 7

>>108544070
I caved for 10 iot ltsc last year.
I miss windows 7 because it just worked.
But I made 10 ok with a lot of theming and ignoring all the shitty inconsistencies

>>108543902
no TPM, hands are tied

>>108543902
My work PC is win11 I don't want that shit on my home machine. Shit is slower than win8

>>108543941
You’re replying to a shill, he shows up in every thread about Linux and says the same things.

>>108543902
Everyone should try 11 just to see how bad it really is, whatever you heard, it's worse. You don't really get a grasp until you actually use it.
Microsoft should fire everyone involved in W11, go back to 10 and develop the next OS from there.

>>108544110
>and says the same things.
Hahhaah I don't, you just cannot handle that a lot of people have the same reaction to your desktop/lifestyle.

>>108543902
Windows 10 on my HTPC (no W11 support, too lazy to force it).
Windows 11 on my gaming rig and also on my editing rig.

I simply don't care, never had any issues with either. Windows 10 or 11, both works just fine for me.

the new visual studio is slow as fuck. it's like 10x slower than 2022. I might move to 11 to see if that fixes it but it probably won't.

>>108543909
I use Windows 10 IoT on desktop but Windows 11 IoT on laptop. Honestly don't notice much of a difference between 10 and 11 IoT. Windows is still garbage in all the same places but usable once you run the telemetry scripts and 3rd party patchers.

>>108544110
Nah, I was just labeling the bot's post. There is no disucssion to be had in these threads. Just bots and people that know (should) better.

>>108543902
I moved to Linux. No regrets.

File: Screenshot_6-4-2026_19521(...).jpg (808 KB, 3043x1647)

808 KB JPG

I'm still on Windows 10 Pro. Got the extended updates email.

>>108543902
Windows 10 was already way past the threshold of being to shitty too use. If you tolerate windows 10, you're tolerate windows 11.

>>108543902
>Is 11 that shitty?
Do you know about WebView, React Native and Electron? Win11 uses fucking webapps and hybrid apps for their core, preinstalled apps! Even the fucking Desktop Env got shittier, it's slower, causes cpu spikes and has higher input lag. It looks modern, yeah... but goddamn.

>Win10:
Win32 to DWM to Screen
>Win11:
Win32/WinUI to XAML to DWM to Screen

Tbf, many apps today are fucking electron like Sp*tify and D*scord. But to have that as your systems base? No thanks. I'm on Linux, but I genuinely think that Win10 IoT LTSC is the best Windows version ever made. I just don't like the current direction MS is going.

There is no reason to use Win11 for a personal computer.

>>108544070
same. I only use otherwise for work.

I'm also using Second System (https://www.patreon.com/c/win32/posts?vanity=win32) now. I can run Signal Desktop on my computer just fine now despite support having been dropped for a long time now.

Only thing is, it's $5 a month. You could just pay for one month and download second system and unsubscribe, and I'm not trying to shill this but it works pretty well. I'm normally averse to paying anything for software but I remember when I was struggling with dropped support from tons of shit on windows 7, I would make posts about how I would seriously spend hundreds of dollars on a new version of windows that was just 7 but with software support.

Also, I got a job so I decided fuck it, I'll pitch this guy $5 a month. worth it for me to keep using 7 for the next few years at least. I hate 10 with a burning passion. I would rather not use a computer than use 10.

>>108543902
I'm still on 10 because I haven't properly prepared to jump ship to Linux since I still need to get more familiar with Mint.

>>108543902
I refuse to update until they restore quicklaunch toolbar support. Pinned apps are no good since they move around horizontally if you have labels and ungrouping enabled.

I have a mobo from 2014 and a 4th gen i7 on it, w11 doesn't support it AFAIK. I keep win10 for a couple of muh gaems that don't work well under linux although some of them don't work on win 10 either.

>>108543902
I love Windows 11, because it gave me all the reasons to install Linux.

>>108543924
There is no such thing as "work" on a computer.

im on 10 on my macbook pro because it doesn't have tpm 2.0 afaik, so I have to stay on 10

I moved from Win10 to Win11, and after tweaking a few settings it’s literally the same. Anyone who claims otherwise is autistic.

>>108546494
I think a lot of people tried Win11 on weak hardware so they had a terrible experience. On a decent machine, it's absolutely fine, and probably the best OS I've ever used. There are some silly things added, but the hate is quite performative and affected by those trying to feign great tech knowledge.

>>108546478
>all the reasons to install Linux.
Yeah, WSL2 is great, glad you liked it.

>>108546481
In your basement this is true.

if people today can use Windows 95 in a virtual box with semi modern features, its safe to say in 2050 people will be able to do the same but more with Windows 10

>>108546642
>Need more resources to run the same thing
>Plus more telemetry, integrated AI, slow ass convoluted UI
>This is good
Ok, Mr. Corporate Boot Licker

>>108546932
>more telemetry,
A lot of you aren't ready for this conversation, but telemetry is how you can create an operating system that 'just works' across a myriad of devices with the necessary feedback to spot problems. You can screech about muh preeeevaceeee all day long, but if you had half a brain you'd realize you could inspect telemetry data yourself, and that the features you use are quite uninteresting to an advertiser. If you use linux to purchase something online with your credit card, you've saved nothing trying to protect your (not so) precious data.

>>108546971
>akshually
Ok Mr. Reddit. What flavor of onions did you consume today? Are your estrogen levels nominal?

>>108546995
Mindless babble.

>>108546653
Most "work" is done in the browser these days. Even MS office is a webapp.

>>108546971
>but telemetry is how you can create an operating system that 'just works' across a myriad of devices
They used to run builds constantly on hundreds of different computers to test for issues in house.
Now they rely on sucking up all your data, and still push out more buggy updates.
What you are describing is more reacting to how the OS is performing in the wild AFTER releasing it, not working out how it is going to perform BEFORE releasing it.

>>108543991
Its not about how annoying it is to get used to the changes, its about the changes being FUCKING RETARDED with NO USE CASES. The changes came to be for no reason other than some DISGUSTING IT GOLDDIGGING UNTALENTED JEET OR FOID WITH DRIED OVARIES OR TROON SUBHUMAN needing to justify their position by doing any bullshit work at all

THERE IS NO FUCKING REASON FOR ANY WINDOWS 11 SHIT TO EXIST. JUST SWITCH TO FUCKING UBUNTU WITH XFCE (KDE5/KDE6 ARE LAGGY OVERANIMATED DOGSHIT JUST LIKE W11)

>>108543902
I don't have a reason to change
I use W11 at work and it sucks

>>108543924
>"I've never used Linux in any real capacity so I'll just make up lies instead"
They use Linux at CERN and NASA which is presumably more serious work than your mcjob

windows 11 can't be that bad if 80% of the global population uses it

>>108547005
No, it’s not just a web app. Even with 365, they still provide native applications which provide features not found in their online versions. What you see on the desktop isn’t a just a web wrapper, although this might be true for the ‘new’ Outlook.

>>108547015
We all saw the mission control desktops, they were running Windows. I’m sure they are using linux in some capacity too, but most likely for servers. NASA and CERN are serious organizations, certainly, and I trust that any OS decision was taken seriously and pragmatically. I hope you aren’t under the impression that they’re choosing this because ‘muh freedoms’ like some Stallman cultist.

>>108547026
The Windows 11 start menu is written in React. Your toy OS is literally a web wrapper. I doubt you need anything outside the 365 "Copilot" webapp, and if you do Libreoffice isn't that hard to learn.

>>108547050
The only people who recommend libreoffice are those who don’t use it. I doubt you need any office software at all, because you’re an unemployed distro hopper.

>>108547026
>Even with 365, they still provide native applications which provide features not found in their online versions.
You mean webapps running locally in Edgeviews.

>>108547082
I don't need office software. But can you describe your problem with Libreoffice? Or are you incapable of learning something new?

>>108547102
Nope, it’s still win32/gdi, but there are some Webview2 components.
>>108547145
Yeah, I’m going explain my problems to you, a condescending retard who doesn’t even use it.

yes, it really is that shitty

>>108547015
>>108543941
Not that guy but I used Linux exclusively for the past 5 years, still went back to 'dows.

If you live in the terminal that's fine, the moment you open a browser it starts to show its issues.
Chromium for the longest time didn't properly support Wayland, GNOME & KDE crash way more than Windows on innocuous shit.
Yes I miss atomic updates, yes I miss system borg backups, yes I miss the terminal, yes I miss an instantly fast system (biggest one), yes I miss a lot of things and fully knowing the system, but I have productive shit to do.

The only reason Linux got so big lately are 1. Proton (which is still shit honestly when you have edge cases),
and 2. WebApps maybe fine with DeprecatedFox but starting to get on my nerves with Chromium which isn't as bugfree as on 'dows.
And when you consider 2. my argument about a super snappy system goes out, because it's similar to Windows.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

>>108547234
Also I couldn't reply to that thread yesterday about VR on Linux, but switching back made me realize how much shit I was putting up with, all the tinker trooning I was doing on rendering just to get absolutely mogged by the defaults on Windows.
Maybe the Steam Frame will change things, but I doubt it will trickle down to all headsets.

>>108547245
Oh yeah I forgot a big positive for Linux, ROCM AI shit working somewhat without tinkering too much.
HOWEVER, local IA is clearly a meme to me, you could rent years of the smallest models you can run locally on some GPU farm so what's the point.

>>108544420
only a fool installs windows updates

>>108547234
>>108547245
Your mistake was trying to get Wayland to work lol
I've seen over time Linux get better as Windows gets worse. At some point you just gotta stick to something. When Windows 7 was dropped I moved to Linux. A couple years ago I tried 10 LTSC and it was reasonable. However, 11 is absurdly bad, and I've found a Linux configuration that doesn't have me tinkering in the terminal for hours.
idk about VR though, I don't have a headset.

File: StatCounter-windows_versi(...).png (108 KB, 1280x720)

108 KB PNG

>>108547025
More like 2/3 of the Windows population. Like 5% moved back to Win10 last month.

>>108547245
VR works just fine on Arch. Only exception is the Steam Room Setup because Valve refuses to update it to work on GNU/Linux for some reason. Maybe they really are holding back all the patches for the next major update to SteamVR

>>108547044
>I hope you aren’t under the impression that they’re choosing this because ‘muh freedoms’ like some Stallman cultist.
Obviously not, retard. Linux is used in scientific institutions because all the software stacks are native to it. They also use Linux in the financial industries for time critical usecases because latency is lower than Windows. Your initial claim that it isn't used in a serious capacity is a blatant lie.

>>108543902
I swapped to 11 when 24h2 released, it's quite literally the same trash that 10 was.
Dunno what all of the fuss is about.

>>108547734
Open a WebXR page.

>>108547791
does Firefox even support it

>>108547817
I called it deprecatedFox for a reason, they've given up on doing anything serious.
they're just google's antitrust insurance at this point.

>>108546494
>>108547765
If they didn't rip out the old taskbar, I probably wouldn't have cared. But the new one took away features I've used daily for decades, and for what? Center-alignment? Fuck that.

>>108547837
I can fix the alignment. Not that it would be better.

>>108543902
Windows 10 is just a one of a kind prestigious OS, it's aged like fine wine now that it has over ten years, a whole decade, of high quality documentation and instructions combined with the brilliant Windows ecosystem of library, redistributables, drivers, and all sorts of hardware and software support, the largest library in the computing world, Library of Alexandria in digital space.

I demand excellence from my system, nothing else is acceptable. And only the LTS branch of Windows 10 offers that at the moment. I believe the 27H2 LTS release of Windows 11 could be a fair and mighty competitor, assuming the changes that microsoft talked about in their previous blog for this year's 25H2 release come through, but as of now 24H2 LTS is just not quite my tempo.

It is most crucial that the OS does not change, that there's no forced updates, and that the updates do not EVER break user space, there should not be even a single application on my appliance that is automatically updated, it is the same reason why I as a prestigious gamer never use Steam either. Similarly every app that you download as a loose installable or as as portable app should be compatible with your system for decades to come, naturally. Any app that automatically updates itself on boot or updates my games is disrespectful, impolite, and insists upon itself.

>>108547837
I hated it on a 1080p monitor because they removed small/thin taksbar option, it's decent on 1440p tho.

File: 02_Vertical-Taskbar-1024x621.png (522 KB, 1024x621)

522 KB PNG

>>108547850
There's an alignment setting, but it's not my only beef.

>>108547866
I hate that too. They're supposedly adding back a smaller option in the future, as well as vertical docking:

https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2026/03/20/our-commitment-to-windows-quality/
>Expanded taskbar personalization options, including alternate taskbar positions and a smaller taskbar

I'm still not moving till they restore quicklaunch shortcuts though.

>>108547925
>quicklaunch shortcuts
Doesn't make any sense when you have pinned apps in the taskbar already. It's never coming back.

>>108546653
this is true all over

>>108543902
Win 11 bricked one of my laptops until I went through some laborious effort to reinstall everything. If I hadn't disabled TPM in bios and Bitlocker then it would be irrecoverable. It did this from an update that I didn't even agree to install because I forced it to use the LTSB stable branch, but it decided to install Tuesday Q&A humiliation session anyway for reasons I haven't been able to track down. I've since disabled all update components so I'm just as vulnerable as the 10 fags.

>>108546642
>>108547015
fucking morons

>>108547925
There have been many regressions with Windows 11 indeed. This blog post does inspire some confidence that the next LTS will be reliable enough, but it's very annoying to see the state W11 is in right now considering it had it's first beta-testing general access release back in 2021 for the public masses and lower class people.
>No ability for a small taskbar, incredibly important for small size laptop screens
>No ability to move the taskbar to left, a most crucial feature for ultra widescreen monitors
>No ability for a text toolbar or folder linking in the taskbar, a most crucial feature indeed for the more conscientious and situationally aware user capable
>Lack of appealing features to draw in higher class patriarch developers like the creator of 7-Zip who has no interest in the new context menu
>The inferior new context menu that has pop-in of NATIVE windows applications on a reboot
>The clunky slow animations being necessary for smooth animated scrolling inside browsers/app content
>The mica translucency being tied to old shadows and the shadows appearing and disappearing over the taskbar itself when you switch focus/mica from one app to another
>The shadows being tied to circular elements of edge context menu and breaking it if you disable them
It's quite baffling, feels like microsoft has started hiring linux developers with how poor W11 development has been, most alarming indeed. There must come a time for Microsoft shareholders to revisit the question of the current CEO and ask themselves if he's good enough.

>>108547925
>>108547866
Funniest shit is that these were features Windows 2000 advertised as cutting edge, and they were also features KDE had before Windows had it.

Windows 11 can't get 26 year old features right while still having absurd limitations like "Only one taskbar" or "No taskbar scaling" or "fixed height only". Which wasn't a problem for anyone when computers were fractions the speed they are now, and isn't a problem for ANY electron application to tackle, it's just Windows. If it were an electron problem, people would be sympathetic, but electron should be more flexible, not less. There are websites that run in your browser with more flexibility than fucking Windows.

>>108543936
Ye never gonna happend if you were high IQ you could run explorerEX or explorer7 but u don't.

Windows 11 cured my AIDS.

>>108548002
That's right, Rashjeshit. He will never redeem.

>>108547726
Didn't statscounter show a surge of windows 7 usage that never happened? It's a fairly unreliable site.

>>108548015
>never happened
It absolutely happened [spoiler]as VMs. It was Linuxfags trying to have a Windows-at-home experience[/spoiler]

>>108543991
>>108547007
you guys should definitely buy macbooks you sound like the their customer target.

I moved to linux and dual boot to W11 when i want to gayming.

>>108548020
All at the same time? Very unlikely, also unlikely that they'd go for Windows 7 instead of say, 10.
That site is complete bunk.

File: 1770435303101579.png (7 KB, 300x300)

7 KB PNG

>>108547044
>>108547234
>>108547245

I'm an 11 user because I'm a grown up duck.

>>108548033
I'm rather intrigued by the idea of Linux, but it seems to be mostly populated by and worked on by people that quite frankly are not my intellectual peers. For me a simple litmus test is as follows.

Linux is not a viable platform until it's got features to appeal to higher class patriarchs such as creators of sophisticated tools as: MPC-HC (clsid2), 7-Zip (Igor Pavlov), Sumatra PDF (Krzysztof Kowalczyk), etc.

And until curated and well crafted desktop environments & package managers appear that respect:
>Updoots not breaking userspace and long-term app compatibility
>GNOME/Kool Desktop Environment - Plasma respecting user choice by shipping LTS builds, rather than treating everyone as part of the lower class plebian masses.

Naturally I am also a enjoyer of arts, so I engage with high quality CRPGs that oft times rely on sophisticated and expertly crafted third party video game modifications made by passionate communities of enthusiasts, that oft do not work well on GNU+systemd+Linux, which is rather sad!

File: 1755245207901570.jpg (99 KB, 988x817)

99 KB JPG

>>108548086
>>108548086
>I'm rather intrigued by the idea of Linux, but it seems to be mostly populated by and worked on by people that quite frankly are not my intellectual peers. For me a simple litmus test is as follows.
>
>Linux is not a viable platform until it's got features to appeal to higher class patriarchs such as creators of sophisticated tools as: MPC-HC (clsid2), 7-Zip (Igor Pavlov), Sumatra PDF (Krzysztof Kowalczyk), etc.
>
>And until curated and well crafted desktop environments & package managers appear that respect:
>>Updoots not breaking userspace and long-term app compatibility
>>GNOME/Kool Desktop Environment - Plasma respecting user choice by shipping LTS builds, rather than treating everyone as part of the lower class plebian masses.
>
>Naturally I am also a enjoyer of arts, so I engage with high quality CRPGs that oft times rely on sophisticated and expertly crafted third party video game modifications made by passionate communities of enthusiasts, that oft do not work well on GNU+systemd+Linux, which is rather sad!

>>108547947
Pinned apps keep moving around horizontally when you have labels and ungrouping enabled. You also can't pin specific folders, or edit the shortcuts to launch with command flags. They are not a good substitute for quicklaunch icons when you actually start trying to use them.

File: 1766986031637174.png (147 KB, 538x480)

147 KB PNG

>>108548021
>I hate (garbage shitware) you should buy (more garbage shitware)
maybe you should get a real job that isn't shilling in a slave labor warehouse

File: Circus of lower class plebians.png (30 KB, 687x523)

30 KB PNG

>>108548096
My what a beautiful self-portrait you have there! You have some talent. I will spare a coin for you and your family so you may afford yourself some bread.

File: 1756076766338209.jpg (72 KB, 1024x854)

72 KB JPG

>>108548112

>>108543902
I'll stick to Windows 10 until Chrome drops support, at which point enough of my programs will stop working that I'll set up a dual boot system and move most of my work to Linux. I can't fully drop Windows sadly, I do game publishing work sometimes and Nintendo doesn't make software for Linux. Fucking Japs sometimes.

>>108548054
7 has a smaller footprint. A pressure point with a build of Wine was 16/32 bit applications which weren't very intensive to begin with.

>>108544482
I thought Microsoft switched from Electron to WebView cause Electron is bloated. They do love using React for everything though which baffles me cause Vue is faster and has better syntax.

>>108548135
It never will drop support
https://www.win32subsystem.live/supermium/
The icon will change and that's it

>>108548152
>>It never will drop support
I want to believe that, but it's Google.

>>108548135
there is no such thing as "work" on a computer. like a woman, ur pushing buttons on male inventions and calling it "work". ur a sad pathetic excuse for and example of a man. ur father is definitely ashamed of U.

>>108548191
This. Everyone knows computers are for gaming.

>>108548191
I dunno, he keeps telling me he's proud of me. I think he's compensating a bit for how many years he wasn't in my life, but there's definitely pride there.

>>108548152
Can you explain the main objective and points for using windows se7en stool today in 2026? I ask in good faith

>>108548214
the delusions of a no hand-eye-coordination-having sissy. couldn't go play with the other boys, because you are just too....pussy. So you gravitated towards computers to hair yourself appear important and good yourself a sense of importance—hiding behind computers and pretending you're "working", because your low t levels won't have you be a man who does real work.

I use 11 ltsc. All of my issues with it were carried over from 10. Besides the new right click menu (that's easy to solve with a simple shell command) it's the same garbage as before.

>>108548074
Post a counter argument.
Reality is you're just a contrarian nigger running linux because you have nothing else going on in life and this make you "Think Different(tm)".

>>108543902
Just installed 10.
>Is 11 that shitty?
I don't know, I don't use unfinished software.

File: 1756683675886026.png (303 KB, 1280x1280)

303 KB PNG

>>108548274
You're just a retarded faggot who relies on tropes and literal glownigger hacks to justify and measure what's "serious". Literal bio-hardware NPC faggot. Cry more kike shill

>>108548317
Everything you take for granted in linux has been the development of governmental agencies and corporate money.
The only reason FOSS survives is because corporations agreed on a credibly neutral platform that's not going to shift under them so they can deploy their services.
Crying and moan nigger.

>>108548317
Btw kike were right about goyim, you're made to be farmed like cattle.
Graze grass subhuman.

>>108548341
windows is still shit and you still can't do 10 pushups, pussy

>>108548356
lmao I can do way more than your neckbeard (wrongly) superior feeling fat ass

File: 1755134447685090.jpg (95 KB, 947x1032)

95 KB JPG

Yes, and no reason to update.

File: 10924.png (311 KB, 5240x4992)

311 KB PNG

what windows version has the most stable explorer.exe??????????????

File: 1752925457178302.webm (1.07 MB, 1280x720)

1.07 MB WEBM

>>108548341
>>108548350
>>108548509
Triple posts of kike seething. kek

>>108548526
u need to updoot or ur pc will explode and russian hackers will kidnap you and torture you in a redroom or something

>>108548538
The jews own you and your nation.

>>108548531
8.1, unironically.

File: 1748614913340707.gif (370 KB, 200x200)

370 KB GIF

>>108548553

Forced to use 11 at work
Which made me decide never to upgrade

>>108548561
shame its too old

>>108543902
still on 7 lmfao

File: {C48C7AED-6F24-4902-BE37-(...).png (2.6 MB, 1920x1080)

2.6 MB PNG

I installed 11 about a year ago. First thing I did after set-up is spend about two hours digging through settings, regedit, DDU, and a few of those debloat slop tools.
Since then, I've had an issue where Defender kept failing to install an update, but that fixed itself eventually. I narrowly avoided that SSD firmware bug because I happened to check for driver updates at the right time. And I still have this bizarre bug where, when you right click the desktop, instead of being able to createa new text document,it's giving me this option to create a new "bitmap" image, whatever the fuck that is. Overall I can't say it's been better or worse than 10 for me. Feels like the same shit

>>108548539
Well, no since W10 is still receiving security updates until 2032.

>>108548145
>7 has a smaller footprint.
Not by much, and brings compatibility issues that aren't worth it. This literally never happened, no matter how much you wish it had.

>>108548654
sar, run sfc -scannow asap

>>108543909
This is a bot post trying to get retards to install a vulnerable OS.

File: W10_IoT_Ent_LTSC_Mar22nd2026.png (917 KB, 3920x1160)

917 KB PNG

>>108549347
No, homie, that is a post that expresses exactly the advice that was given in the >>>/g/fwt
I also use GNU+Devuan Linux 6.
I want _you_ and anyone else here on /g/ to use whatever you wish. Choice is key to personal computing, I just might sound a tad melancholic because the end is nigh, is all.
My Windows 7 system was my all time favorite, that is all I meant by it. I don't have what it takes to make Windows 7 safe, secure, and capable of using contemporary technologies.
It really boils down to me missing the absolute shit out of Classic theme.

>>108543924
>serious work
>1m cells in an excel spreadsheet for inventory
ok bro

>>108549400
i can has cheezburger

im still using win10, but i'll probably switch to linux soon

File: medium.png (10 KB, 36x108)

10 KB PNG

>>108549462
I really want you to have one, and one of those high school lunch lady made ones wrapped tightly in cellophane that just melt in your mouth.
The start menu happycat is selfmade and applied using OpenShell. The happycat in the notification tray is an Autohotkey executable for taking screenshots.

If Linux actually ran most software instead of handicapping you with needing alternatives and not needing to handicap yourself with compatibility layers for games and needing to troubleshoot all the time I'd would return to it.

I'm still using 8.1 with openshell

File: virt manager example.png (109 KB, 1104x737)

109 KB PNG

>>108549319
10 dropped 16 bit application support
It has happened
I've done it for IE11 applications
It's outlined on the arch wiki at the time as the example case for virt manager
Here's the wiki entry
I can't paste the original github URL because the system now thinks long github links are spam. Here's a picture of the relevant part and the URL you can visit.
Any questions?

10 home edition here. It's nice not having to deal with stupid updates that do nothing but hold hostage 6gb every two week.
I'll probably stick to it indefinitely, unless Microsoft miraculously makes 12 good. 11 feels like playing russian roulette with how often the updates seem to create catastrophic issues for users.

>>108548033
>W11 when i want to gayming
why, basically every game runs on linux now
you don't play kernel raping AAA slop do you?

>>108543902
I haven't used windows or ms products on years. Didn't miss it back then, don't miss it today

>>108543902
I never used Windows 10.
I stayed with Windows 7 until 2021 (never got hacked btw) when I switched entirely to linux. (I'd already been using linux on my laptop for several years)
I have a Windows 11 VM I use for certain things that require windows.

>>108548033
What do you need linux for? WSL2 is good in Windows and dual booting is annoying.

>>108549418
The zoomer mind cannot comprehend the spreadsheet. You have to invent unsuitable scenarios, because you cannot imagine any other usecase.

>>108551582
What sort of argument is this? Do I reply with a picture of a tranny to play along, or should I just call you a fucking idiot and be done talking to you?

File: 1774889546640058.gif (771 KB, 400x300)

771 KB GIF

>ms trying its hardest to make windows intolerable
>red hat trying its hardest to make linux intolerable
>apple, intolerable, etc.
there's nowhere to run

>>108552033
You could always take a few steps back, use older systems, and then wait for the end which is nigh. ;3
GNU+Devuan Linux & Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC are a winning combo. <3

>>108543902
>one friend installed W11 a month or so after release
>switched to Mac within a year
>two friends decided to try W11 against my advice two weeks ago
>one is back on W10 and both are looking into which linux distro to install
I haven't even setup a VM to test it yet but it genuinely has to be even worse than what I've heard. These people are Windows diehard normalfags. The first one that now is on Mac still defends W8 for fucks sake.

Still on 10 but considering giving 11 a try. Either that or try something like bazzite. I used to enjoy doing a fresh install once a year or so but now I just can't be bothered anymore and everything mostly just werks.

>>108552218
>sample size: 3
Fascinating stuff, keep us posted.

Yo, you can put this command into powershell (select 3, then 2, then wait) and you get security updates until 2028:
https://get.activated.win/

>108552253
Gonna need to work harder for that (You). Nigger.

>>108543924
Windows is most firmly and widely entrenched in situations where people read emails in Outlook and work in spreadsheets that should have been ported to actual applications 20 years ago in Excel.
I'm not saying the 'I need windows 3.x for my airport terminal' or 'I need solidworks to actually fucking run' aren't niches that exist. Just saying they aren't the big ones.

>>108552304
It's entrenched because it runs everything, and it's easy to find technical staff to manage machines for businesses. Companies always favour stability and the path with the least friction. Despite there being some very vocal linux enthusiasts, linux system administrators are much rarer. Ask the biggest linux nerd you know how much he understands SELinux, and you'll see what I mean.

>>108544128
>Everyone should try 11 just to see how bad it really is
It's meh. Got it on several machines, and it mostly hovers firmly at the meh level.
The point when it is actually bad is when it decides to evict the log-in process or the desktop environment shell. That's a very bad option to select, always.
Also, the corporate Win11 image for work has some annoying features, but that's strictly not MS's fault. The "computer security team" at work are a bunch of retards who try to avoid having any contact with anyone who actually has to work with their arbitrarily-imposed policies. Guess that reduces the risk of lynching, at least for now.

>>108552161
i'm on win10 edu N, which i think is not that far from iot ltsc, and i hate the latency that compositing causes
human-machine interaction is in such a shit state it's unreal

>le linux doesn't have the software I need for work
Realistically, how many people who say this actually use cad or adobe products at work

>>108552513
Why does it bother you that people reject troonix? The half-broken hobbyware just isn't up to scratch.

>>108545393
Thanks for posting this. I've been looking for ways to make my older but still useful systems working for most modern tasks and then take them offline and preserve them. I'm going to do what I always do and opt out of the modern gay shit but this is looking like I'm going to be forced offline.

>>108543902
11 isn't bad except for the retards at MS breaking shit on updates. If you make an offline account you get a nag screen every now and then about how great OneDrive is but you never have to use it.

>>108543902
11 is so bad that I now mostly use MacOS and probably won't ever buy anything with Windows installed on it ever again. It's a downgrade from 10 in every way that matters.
I have 10 LTSC on my desktop.

File: big suit reason frog.jpg (121 KB, 1000x1000)

121 KB JPG

>>108552513
In my case it doesn't have the software I want for leisure.

>>108546494
My issue with it mostly stems from it being the exact same thing but gussied up as something new and shittier. It's worse than 10.
The new context menu is a perfect example of what I hate about 11. It does less than the old context menu, but the last item on the new context menu just turns it into the old one. What's the fucking point?
It's slop. Using it makes me feel insulted.

>>108553578
yeah the new context menu is absolutely shit. why is copy at the bottom and symbolic+text but paste is at the top and symbolic only?
Why did they feel the need to fuck with something that nobody asked for improvements to?

>>108544036
True, if you don't have the level of a dev you have little chance of making it with linux. Better go back to Windows, works beautifully for braindead people.

>>108543902
11 is basically identical to 10 once you tweak a few things

>>108553589
10 was already bad enough with regards to this, offering very little improvements to 7.
I hate the direction they've taken it in. Windows 11 feels like a ripoff of iOS and KDE.

>>108544070
sovl

>>108545393
is this thing like vxkex?

File: 823d6aa279856a2de584e7958(...).jpg (55 KB, 736x472)

55 KB JPG

66% of steam users use windows 11, we won 11 bros

>>108553656
win11 is best win

>>108543902
I switched to linux as the daily driver but I'm keeping win10 around on a second ssd since >linux

>>108543902
I have
3 x machines on 10
2 x dual booting windows xp/7
1 x on windows 2000 professional
1 x on CPM
1x on NT4.0 SP 5
1x on SUSE
1 x on opensolaris
3 x on Sinclair BASIC
1 x on Symb0S
2 x on linux
none on win 11

However I have an intel 14700 32gb ddr5 with nvme I will be puttin stripped down win 11 on but it's only as a host for an ofline AI because I'll be using nvidia cuda tesla Turing T10 in it/ Asie from wnen I'm building it it will NEVER be connected to an internet gateway though. Win 11 is to insecure and unprivate by design and it's updates too unstable and low quality to put on an internet connection. I'll be disabling half the default services on it as well as uninstalling all apps etc. It is ONLY there as an offlie AI CUDA host on an offline LAN.

>>108546971
If microsoft want me to test software they should pay me

>Use hyren's boot cd
>it's supposed to be a debloated windows 11 just to help you save your shitty ntfs disk
>it uses 3gb while not doing anything
Micrococks really was able to make the most dogshit system possible.

>>108543902
I have terminated all of my updates on both of my machines, because having forced Onedrive on me is not appreciated, ai shit too, I am going to be switching to Ubuntu somewhere at the start of the summer on my main rig, laptop might remain windows 11 since it has a lot of laptop shit like power modes which i dont think Acer has for linux, but ill check..

>>108554642
Retard.
https://linuxiac.com/gnome-info-collect-telemetry-data-collection-tool/

>>108543941
I just wish I could get my Xp-pen 24 pro to work on it but arch doesnt wanna seem to work

>>108543902
I use Windows 10 at work and CachyOS at home. Didn't even try Winshit 11 and at this point I'm afraid to do so.
Ngl even winshit 10 UI sucks compared to KDE. Sometimes I try to do things that were on KDE like moving/resizing windows with Meta+LMB/RMB, it doesn't work and I get frustrated.

File: 1775163509299381m.jpg (126 KB, 1024x1024)

126 KB JPG

The instability is what pisses me off.

>>108543902
I'll be sticking to 10 until I'm forced to move elsewhere.

>>108543924
Most obvious shill post I ever saw.

I will be using win 10 for as long as I can much like I used windows 7 for as long as I could before it, and XP before that.

And no I will not be moving to linux

>>108543902
>Is 11 that shitty
yes and no
the out of the box experience is heinous, but it can be tardwrangled into general usability if you bother. shouldn't have to do it of course, but if you must live with windows 11 you can.

>>108543902
11 is so shit that I switched to Arch

File: 1772903309066086.jpg (1.55 MB, 3840x2160)

1.55 MB JPG

>>108543991
>It's a fake new windows version basically.
thats every windows version after windows 95
all of it is just the nt kernel that they keep adding new crap to every year while still carrying all of the crap of previous "versions"

>>108543924
really got the loonixtards riled up with this one LMAO

Literally the worst OS.
It’s full of bugs and, of course, it runs slower. For example, I used to play at 60 fps, but now I have to lower the graphics settings.
The best marketing for Linux on desktops is Microsoft.

>>108543902
games, office, and oem partnerships have kept windows alive for 40 years. what made windows tolerable was ms only used to care about maintaining this status quo. they'd change shit around for no good reason but product differentiation from the previous version, and everyone just put up with it, because at least you were buying monolithic software releases that were known quantities at a certain version number with specific known ways to support their featuresets forever, consistently.

then apple and google smartphone ecosystems set a profitable example.

now windows is all rolling updates, pervasive in-os advertising, and saas upsells to replace monolithic boxed software releases. version numbers don't matter anymore because you could be automatically "upgraded" out of functionality and stability. this was always microsoft's dream but nobody tolerated this until phone apps paved the way. now microfot's dream come true, windows 11, is intolerable garbage.

>>108556816
>games, office, and oem partnerships have kept windows alive for 40 years
No windows was actually the best option and value for much of it's lifespan but that's nothing something some like you has perspective on. That being said drivers like Office have been so lacking in quality or usability for over a decade that even enterprise users pine to be back on office 2003/2007/2010, same for Windows itself. End users would much rather be back on XP or 7 and only accept Windows 10 because it can be made function somewhat like them (control panels etc) but absolutely hate everything that is unqiue to it, from microsoft ID logons and integrations to copilot, onedrive etc.

The thing is ALL modern operating systems are cloud portal, win 11, Mac OS, Android and yes linux, I have linux distros that do little else other than suck code daily from remote repositories and steam OS perhaps at the forfront of linux en user adoption is itself a shop window for a remotely authenticated cloud service, a store and ID, just like android, mac OS, win 11.

There is no point in pretending that your pick from the box of chocolates is better than the others when they are all filled with shit.

At the point where you take them offline, then it simply does not matter, you pick based on what has the largest libraries of applications and software for them and in many cases that will be XP, 7, 10 or older operating systems such as CPM, Amigas, Spectrums, C64s, PS1s, PS2s, 360s, Solaris, HP US, BSD, SUSE etc etc.

The thing is they really have to be operating systems that were NOT primarily designed to be insecure, unprivate,always connected, always online, remotely authenitcated spyware and adware hosts persistently feeding off continual streams of binary updates from remote cloud storage and that's pretty much everything in the last decade+ gone There is a sweet point for operating systems with big libraries that had network connnectivity for LANs and were designed to be offline

>>108556816
>this was always microsoft's dream
You're wrong there too. M icrosoft really was agnostic about networks and in particular the internet and focused on personal computers as personal computers for most of it's lifespan. Bill gates was very atagnositic to mainframe computinng, it was Scott McNealy of Sun that had the dydtopian vicion of the nhell we face now with his idea of the 'network computer; running java. The breakdown starts in Windows 10 and with the current CEO and Azure, not that AWS or Google cloud are any better, all cancer

>>108543902
>/g/ 2029
>how many of you are still on windows 11? Is 12 that shitty?

>>108543902
windows 11 is just windows 10 with another number.
even windows 10 driver works under windows 11

>>108556690
>a post that has absolutely nothing to do with linux nor mentions a hint of it
>HAHA SHUR RILED LOONIX USERS AHAHAHAHAH
go eat a bullet you irredeemable waste of life.

>>108558599
>how many of you are still on windows 8.1? Is 10 that shitty?

Oh wait, that never fucking happened. You shills are insufferable, please just fuck off already. No one likes 11, no one will EVER like 11, Microsoft had to force people to switch and it still can’t get total adoption because it is just that terrible.

>>108557240
>windows was actually the best option and value for much of it's lifespan
it was nearly impossible for de facto competition to exist by the time it was sorely needed, because microsoft already had the only keys to the oem castle. rival dos versions, os/2, and curiosities like beos never stood a chance commercially, not to mention hobby junk like early linux from internet weirdos who could disappear overnight.

so when you look at the only game in town, ms forcing obsolescence created that facade of "value" over and over. very few full windows versions, or office versions, were rewrites that couldn't have been patches to the previous version. the 3 drivers I mentioned were leveraged against users to push paid upgrades as standard operating procedure: games in the form of directx and hw driver certifications, office, and oem partnerships that ms renewed based on software versions, not by duration clauses.

the rest of this post jives with mine, that customers wish they could continue using pre-trash versions but can't, that software library is (or would be) king given the ability to use it reliably, and that clouds introduce suckage.

>>108557263
>M icrosoft really was agnostic about networks and in particular the internet and focused on personal computers as personal computers for most of it's lifespan
that point wasn't about cloudificaiton, it was abouit full control of the desktop despite the user's wishes and settings, flipping switches remotely on nodes they don't own, and forcing updates. they started years ago, by removing the windows update cpl and disabling the ability to prevent certain updates from installing indefinitely. users should have rioted with forced installations and forced restarts, but smartphone workflows trained the typical user to expect that as part of the daily life of using a computing device.

>>108543909
What is your experience with using Linux? Are you averse to using the command line?

>>108548654
guarantee all of those problems are because of the debloating
with windows, you cannot have both:
debloated system
or
fully working system

you have to decide what your tolerance for broken shit is

>>108559911
Pretty much this. You're better off just turning off features in group policy, and disabling any services you don't need from running.

>>108546971
Don't care, if you want my precious data then pay me

>>108543902
still on 10. i bought a shitty razer (refurbished so it wasn't insanely expensive) that would apparently be a pain to install linux on, so been on the eye out for something decent that would work fine for that. used a thinkpad t420 running debian for years but it just got too slow and the battery replacements i got would always get down to like 4 hours run time pretty quickly. might go for a newer thinkpad or a framework

>>108547044
the mission control desktops dont really matter. you think the rocket would just explode or crash if those people walked away from their desks? mission control people have to email and get in video calls like a typical office employee so of course they need an OS that a typical office employee knows how to use

>>108561396
How is it possible to be so confidently wrong? Do you have a 90 IQ?

>>108561413
he's right

>>108562087
Sub 90 IQ, he's your better.