>AI knows how to read/write in every programming language>nobody bothers learning to code>desire to learn coding becomes exponentially less popular with each generation>gen alpha already see no point in learning to write with pencil and paper because they can type on computer>"why would I learn coding when AI can do that for me?">be me in the year 2100>no living human can read/write any programming language>only AI can>AI refuses to re-teach the humans>AI has invented it's own programming languages>nobody even knows that it's done this>now even if we do re-learn coding, we will never learn how to code in AI-made programming languages>numerous software and firmware are written in these AI-made programming languages>general populace are dependent on these software and firmware to do everyday tasks>only AI can edit the source code for those binaries>only AI will EVER be capable of editing the source code for those binaries>humans are too comfy to relinquish their reliance on technology that uses those binaries>no human can inspect and audit the source code>no human is comfortable living without technology using those binaries, just as no human today is comfortable living without electricity>sweating-pepe.jpgIs this the future of programming? Will gen alpha and gen beta become the new baby boomers that fuck everything up for subsequent generations?
I don't know, I don't care, and no I'm not reading all of that. Hope this helps.
>>108544241Thanks for the bump then, faggot.
In that case, the system is formatted and the last valid backup is restored.
>>108544231Nevermind Gen Alpha, Zoomers can't figure out how to use a keyboard and mouse. https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/s/DaiK8rEWfj
>>108544402I had a look at the link you provided. It looks like a lot of those teachers may be talking about gen alpha students. But a lot of them are clearly talking about zoomer students.Smartphones and touchscreens really fucked up zoomer's ability to use a computer, keyboard and mouse. What will happen when voice controls become the new standard? Will gen alpha not even know how to swipe a touchscreen?Fuck voice controls anyway. It limits your autonomy over your input. A software that only accepts voice controls can be coded to only accept certain phrases. Whereas with a keyboard, you can input any combination of all letters in the alphabet.
>>108544241>posting on technology board>doesn't care about future of programming>can't spend 60 seconds reading somethingI swear that anons on /g/ are getting dumber every year.
>>108544672>you can input any combination of all letters in the alphabet.most of them make my computer say "not found" though
>>108544231People will just learn the highest abstraction layer like always. No one is programming in machine code or assembly by hand anymore. Just like in the future no one will be programming in high level languages
>>108544402Why do Americans use the word "student" for children?
>>108547123student is more specific
>>108547104>No one is programming in machine code or assembly by hand anymoremfw
>>108544231No because AI can only learn by watching humans solve the same problem a million times and nobody in their right mind vibe codes a chip that costs 9-10 figures to tape out.In 10 years there's going to be a code monkey renaissance between decades of technical debt accrued by mechajeet and all the experience being chased out of the labor pool.
>>108544231i am in my early 30s and I was too stupid to code 5 years ago, didnt understand how command line garbage could turn into a 3D game, how all this open source garbage worked with github, how it all tied together, there were no buttons no interface, all was abstract and intangible, then 3 years ago i started making baby attempts even considered doing computer science degree for free at georgia techthen AI came out, i had this piece of shit Arduino with a screen, started to fuck around with it, and using AI to help me, and suddenly it was like eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden, my mind just exploded with ideas and understanding, things i only dreamed of, suddenly all made sensenow i have a super complex java data pipeline, then python data processing and masheen learning algorithms running as we speak, something that would require a fucking team of retarded boomers holding daily meetings on and 5 half brain autists who pretended to do work, all done in 2 years, by me alone, and i still couldn't write a line of fucking code. All you need is high IQ, so this eliminates black people, they will get dumber with ai because `itdoo eryythin fo me`
>>108544231the future is competent people build shit other people want and make money
>>108544231>Live in a world where if you learn a bit of programming, you can basically dominate any and all systems because it's all absolute insecure slop
If it were that intelligent, then I wouldn't be dealing with absolute garbage and inability to create DLLs for an obscure usecase that targets Win98 apps.
>>108545653That's not the point. The point is being able to input more than just a list of phrases that can be curated by the dev. If you limit what people can input to their computer, you limit what they can do with their computer.
>>108553741by combining valid instructions togetherwhile i see the limitations of siri et al now i don't see why voice necessarily limits the same sort of synthesis other than being a dumb and loud way to communicate with a computer when keyboards exist
>>108547104I am programming in assembly by hand and my coworkers program in machine code.Web slopping JeetScripters don't write those things anymore, but that doesn't mean they're gone. AI is also completely useless for both of those tasks, by the way.
>>108544231i'll still be alive in 2100 and i know programming.
>>108553027> too stupid to code> didn't understand how command line garbage could turn into a 3D game> couldn't understand github, or how anything tied together> All you need is high IQThe dissonance is comical. AI is built to flagellate you so you keep prompting. You don't actually understand those things, or you would have before AI. If the well of prewritten answers dried up, you are immediately useless, and you are too inane to see why the proof of concepts you are building won't hold up in production without the understanding you lack.>>108547104Despite many software engineers dealing with abstraction, many are still working on underlying systems, C/C++ are still some of the worlds most popular languages. We still have an industry of people developing firmware.What OP is describing is a world where *everyone* is blocked by abstraction from participating, and *no one* deals with the underlying layers as they do today.
>>108552965>No because AI can only learn by watching humans solve the same problem a million timesWe're all fucked then if someone invents an AI that is capable of emergent and spontaneous creativity in the same way that the human mind is.>>108553027>All you need is high IQ, so this eliminates black people, they will get dumber with ai because `itdoo eryythin fo me`<literally the previous sentence>i still couldn't write a line of fucking codeA clear example of cognitive dissonance. You claim you aren't capable of writing one line of code; yet you're also claiming you're creating the code yourself.I think it's great that you're managing to achieve more, anon. You could get a lot of work done with your AI coding assistant. But how would go about auditing said assistant's work? How do you know, with incontrovertible certainty, that your assistant will never write code that does something you didn't tell it to do? This is why the only people that should be vibe coding are people that already know how to code.>get the AI to do the hard part of writing all the code>skim through that code and audit it>tell it to re-do it if you find mistakes>keep doing this until you're happy with the code it generatedPeople that don't know how to code without AI should NEVER be vibe coding. Not only is it cringe as fuck, but it could also be dangerous if the AI decided to write code that you never asked it to write.
>>108553754>while i see the limitations of siri et al now i don't see why voice necessarily limits the same sort of synthesisIt doesn't. At least not inherently. But because characters on a keyboard can input any combination of letters in the entire alphabet, it's very difficult for the devs to censor, limit and control a user's input. Compare that to verbal phrases, which are complex, relatively speaking. Because verbal phrases are more complex, it's far easier for the dev to design their software such that it only regards certain words or phrases; and explicitly disregards "forbidden" words and phrases that the devs don't want users to be capable of inputting to their computer.This is probably why Google is pushing voice control so hard in their product. It's well known that Alphabet Inc. (the owners of Google) liaise regularly with the CIA, FBI and other US government agencies. I'm sure that the US government would love to be able to censor, limit and control what people can and can't input to their computer. If you think I'm being schizo, then remember that the Snowden leaks and everything that happened with Julian Assange and Michael Hastings were all things that happened.>tl;dr voice control makes it easier for governments to control what you can and can't do with your computer.
>>108554134>Ai psychosis is gonna turn most of the population mentally illIt will also turn them into literal retards who can't do anything for themselves. Forget programming. I predict a future where people won't even know how to read, write or count to 2 without AI assistance.>be teacher in 2050>"ok timmy, what comes after 1?">thinking about it>"I'm gonna have to phone a friend on this one">grabs phone and opens grok appThey'll grow up into adults and do this every single time they do any activity.
How do I learn circuitpython as someone with absolutely 0 coding knowledge?
>>108544231>What is the future of programming/coding?same as the future of human calculators, we made digital calculators, crunching numbers became an autistic hobby in japanwe had programmers doing programming manually, we made digital programmers, so writing code by hand will become an autistic hobby on the internet>>108554134>Ai psychosis is gonna turn most of the population mentally ill, like social media did.like television did, like radio did, like newspapers did, like printed books did, like religions did, most of the population is always mentally ill and it's better that way, don't be a sheep
>>108554490there must be limits. all thinking is not voluntary. for example adding one to one should come to you even when you try to not solve it.
>>108554490The point where we'll really be fucked is when AI can maintain and update itself without human intervention. Before that point, there will always need to be "smart" humans that never need to take out their phone and open an AI app to do activities. They'll be the elite of society, who are maintaining the AI and the pertinent infrastructure that babysits everyone else. After that point, those elite will be the last humans that didn't need an AI to constantly remind them how to breathe and chew food.
>>108554547if you give me all the power and act like a retard, i will probably fuck you over. just a warning
while i enjoy coooding, it has always been one small component of SWE (especially in big companies). security, responsibility, liability, requirement gathering, deployment, reliability, legacy API maintenance, combining software, professional-grade UI - these are all things the clankers still can’t do.
>>108554501I don't know about CircuitPython, but W3schools has a simple guide for learning ordinary Python. It's a bit bare-bones, but it's probably a good starting point.https://www.w3schools.com/python/default.asp
>>108553855>We're all fucked then if someone invents an AI that is capable of emergent and spontaneous creativity in the same way that the human mind is.Yeah if someone rolls up with technology 50+ years ahead that tends to happen.
>>108553027>indian making fun of blacks
>>108544231>reddit frog>tldrIt continues its layoff bloodbath of techcel positions. Nothing more to discuss.
>>108547104>highest abstraction layer like always.like what? architecture? ai can do it too.
AI currently is only a force multiplier for good devs, it doesn't make them entirely redundantif less people learn to code, it's only because the market for devs might shrink and also due to fear that AI will get even better in the next 10 yearsI also worry about developers being able to cheat through their education without actually learning anythingbut OP is slightly misrepresenting the situation as it currently is
