Eva editionHow to request advice:>Budget>Intended use (media, source, environment)>Frequency response preference and music examples>Past gear and your thoughts on themFAQ:>Where do I buy IEMs?Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):https://consoomer-guide.pages.dev/>/iemg/'s Journal:https://iemgazette.pages.dev/>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/>Measurements:https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/measurement-databases/>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35>Bullet IEMs:• Tanchjim Zero Ultima DSP (Mild U/5-Band PEQ) - $22• Sony IER-EX15C (Warm/Dark) - $30• Etymotic ER2XR (Towards Neutral) - $140>Flathead Earbuds:• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10>USB-C DACs:• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) - $18• TRN Black Pearl (10-Band PEQ) - $38• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110>PMPs:• HiBy R1 - $85• HiBy M300 - $200>AVOID USING:• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver posPrevious Thread: >>108506339
>>108548221Thanks, doc.
>>108548221DANKE HERR DOCTOR
On the topic of headphones. Any good headphones?
>>108548221Why is epz g10 so fucking retarded bros?
>>108548331Fox techs.
>>108548318If you are willing to EQ, anything that is comfy and reliable enough.
>>108548331how can an iem be retarded you dummy
>>108548318tanchjim rita
>>108548331>3d printed front vent that can't be blocked by the ear>anatomical shape for secure fit>incredibly cheap customization>normgroid tuningIt's smart as fuck actually.
>>108548221where do I acquire these?
>>108548318for headphones you'll need to find... comfortable ones for your head, open with good bass, low acoustic impendence, low unit variance, low channel variance, low positional variance, good default tuning, low distortion for EQ, with easily obtainable earpads.So in short good luck with that
>>108548858so Sony MDR-MV1 and HD490 Pro
>>108548858omg stop being an autist retard, iems are the highest acoustic impedance devices and need to assume your HRTF that is completely bypassed, so if your DF ear gain peaks earlier than 3k and your pos is tuned to have the ear gain at 3k it'll sound unnatural as fuck, hps have that backed in, not to mention the totally shitshow insertion depth and length modes that is a PITA to fixand you say as if you can't find your sweet spot with hps and keep that position every seating
>>108548850https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r4-x-evangelionthe rest is prolly custom
>>108548221How to eq soundstage?
Was told to come over here from /sqg/ so I'm gonna ask here again: This might be dumb but: Are there any earphones that are good for cycling? Preferably wired so that I don't fucking lose them if I hit some hefty bumps. (and also my old ass phone needs wired headphones to get a radio signal) Since they are for cycling I also need them to not be noise cancelling. That's pretty important, so I can hear shit in the roads. Should also have a mic to occasionally take calls, and not cost a hundred dollars. Does such a thing exist? Anything in this general, decent for cycling without breaking the bank?
>>108548988>iems are the highest acoustic impedance devices and need to assume your HRTF that is completely bypassedwell yes. but also gate or bunny is like $20>so if your DF ear gain peaks earlier than 3k and your pos is tuned to have the ear gain at 3k it'll sound unnatural as fuckthat's not exactly true. brain will adapt it gives less fucks than most assume>not to mention the totally shitshow insertion depth and length modes that is a PITA to fixthis depends but again shit is like 20 bucks and length modes aren't that hard to fix.half of the time fixing peaky and dipy headpos treble is simply impossible. >and you say as if you can't find your sweet spot with hps and keep that position every seatingnot always. Head movement will move headpos too. Earpad wear will change sweet spot and peaks. and the most important of all your headpos won't cost $20
>>108549536truthear gate with mic$20
Why are we suddenly pretending that insertion depth is in any way important for a single person? If pos is comfortable and sits at the same spot you can be sure that insertion length won't change. Then you just EQ length modes and peaks out and maybe tilt FR with a couple of filters... and that's all
*Thieaudio Prestige LTD*https://youtu.be/FXD4jh3cUXU?si=CSoPMaasuvOgVZjDhttps://youtu.be/pi7h7njZgmM?si=Zi9hrmQfO1fP8wFS
*forgot pic*
>>108548888pretty much yesor anybody can just buy gate for $20 and it will be like 90% there
>>108548318Stuy Bax
>>108549672>>108549649g.a.y.
>>108549457add a dip at 2k and lower the ear gain if you want to give the vocals some sense of depth instead of being in your face
>>108549457EQ your pos fully FLAT. Using your length mode position calculate your ear canal length. Then using that calculate your natural ear gain frequency. apply it to EQ. add treble shelf to preference. then play 3D audio and use high Q peak filters to add positional ques via trial of error
>>108550029uhh is there a little pinna you forgor?
Got the memezu Wan'er S.G II and they sound worse than my favorite xiaomi Dual Magnetic Super Dynamic ones, I'm still upset I damaged one of the them so they don't sound balanced what a piece of shit thos memezus are in comparison. Literally non existent lows and piercing highs what a trash heap, be ashamed recommending these.
>>108550350not to mention horribly uncomfortable, never fucking coming to this general ever again, you are retarded
>>108550350>Wan'er S.G IIkek
>>108550466don't you dare keking, that shit is listed in the recommended budget list, should have gotten the same pair of old stock xiaomi for a little more, so fuck your thread
>>108550177you'd have to assume average ear gain shape
>>108550350>Literally non existent lows and piercing highssounds like seal problems? try other eartips
>>108550521Tried even the xiaomi ones, EQd the fuck out of lows, they plain suck nothing to add. This trend with zoomers paying for some shitty drawing or whatever on their piece of garbage buds is what drives the sales. Plain xiaomis run circles around them but they are not "cool" looking right? Also a shame the stock is not reliable with cheap copies of already cheap buds everywhere.
>>108550559literally every measurement of waners show decent amount of lows. they should not be too bright either. If you have long ear canals maybe your length mode is too close to 6k and elevates the whole region around it.Either yours are broken or you have no seal
Will anyone release a truly electrostatic IEM ever again? The last one was from Shure in 2015. Sonions are electret, not equivalent.
>>108550577when the xiaos were new the sound stage was insane now after a few years of sweat and damage they still bounce, brand new waners sound like deflated balloon
>>108550616No, grandpa.
The most useless general in the history of 4cdhan
>>108550792/ptg/ is that way sar
>>108550792blame it on the tranny schizo that loses to chatgpt every single time
>>108550645yeah I figured out what's wrong with memzus, they have eviscerated mids so the lows are never full sounding and highs are piercing, xiaos have very rich mids that ties everything together.
>>108550842better, but no miracles since the drivers are shit
>>108550990>drivers are shithow does that work? can't you just eq to perfection?
>>108550990is this a joke post?
>>108551013he's just retarded. and likely deaf
>>108550695What did he mean by this
Why is ea500lm so mid, bros?
>>108550792*For real*
>>108551097because ea500 is obviously superior
>>108548221just in case anyone else was worried about the Sandisk clip mp3 players all being out of production, I got one of these (Yoton clip) and it's surprisingly not shit. I normally use a Clip Jam, and the yoton is larger in all dimensions but still small.The build quality is slightly worse/less polished. The button area is far smaller on the yoton than the clip jam. the yoton is probably more comparable to a Clip Sport than a clip Jam. Also, the UI feels less polished.On the bright side, it's pretty cheap, comes with a 64GB memory card, has a color screen, and basically all the same functions of the sandisk clip players. Battery life also seems to be fine, and it's got USB-C, a separate power button, and the headphone port is on top which I like.Would recommend as a sandisk clip replacement.
>>108550990dolby atmos is a bit dramatic since it's weak, here is hiby that works better.>>108551033you are fucking deaf try using something that isn't chink shit for a change
>>108551013as much as drooling retards posting here insist that you can, you can't. It's cheap shit for a reason.
>>108551202You personally can't. I of course can.
>>108551218poor dunings like you that never had the pleasure of trying boutique shit do be thinking that way
>>108550616Use case?
>>108551228You physically can't because you have 0 IEMs.
>>108551142That's true.
>>108551231Detail and speed and punchiness with low distortion that conforms to EQ very well
Large tips fit me perfectly when I had Mega5ESTs. On my new Monarch MKIIIs they're too big. Now I have to buy a bunch of medium.
>>108551188here is another for vocal heavier tracks, the other is more for instrumental
Good morning, does anyone use PeqDB?
>>108551333Send me the large tips
>>108551322>Detail and speed and punchiness with low distortion that conforms to EQ very wellWhat did he mean by this?
>>108551188>you are fucking deaf try using something that isn't chink shit for a changelmao? xiaomi you used before is chink shit dumbassI obviously have a bunch of different IEMs and headphones...
>>108551472what are you pretending to be retarded? the fact that out of all these cheap chink shits xiaos come on top means I had something better to compare them to don't you think? Don't fucking (You) me ever again.
>>108551508You're struggling with eartips, you have nothing to compare them to.>inb4 a head dent machine
>>108551431Fake
>>108551508>the fact that out of all these cheap chink shits xiaos come on top meansit doesn't mean anythingxiaomi is like 2000 times bigger than fucking tangzu making their shit in some basement lmaoyou are fucking stupidalso you are objectively wrong because waners 1 and 2 are some of the most popular IEMs and were reviewed by hundred of retards with dozens of measurements on magnitude of measuring rigs and none agrees with yousucks to suckalso you are crying a bit too much about $20 pos aka almost literally free
>>108551674>all this backpedallingyour general sucks, you copy what other paid shills say instead of running own tests, get fucked.
>>108551431I THOGUHT ELECTROSTATIC WAS THE BEST TRANSDUCER TECH WHY DOES AN ESTAT HAVE DISTORTION THIS BAD WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHAT IS HAPPENING WHY WHY WHY WHY HOW DOES THAT WORJ WHAT THE FUCM FUCM CKDKS
another ayy lmao moment after running a few tests with different DACs, those wankers sg 2 tend to distort bad even with a slightest EQ, the drivers must be made out of cheapest china magic cost saving piece of shit imaginable, literally can't even EQ them to sound decent
I DIDNT BUY A POS I DIDNT BUY A POS I DIDNT BUY A POS ELECTROSTAT IS BEST DETAILS AND RESOLUTIONS THE THD GRAPH IS SOME SORT OF ARTIFACT OR MEASUREMENT ERROR ITS NOT REAL IT DIDNT HAPPEN IT SOUNDS CLEANER IT SOUNDS CLEANER HELP HEPP HELP HELP
>>108551700wtf do you mean backpedaling you delusional deaf retard? measurements are objective metric tho lmao... and there are a lot of them. all different sources, different units, different couplers.You are so fucking stupid holy SHIT.
>>108551782why would you think something so retarded? dynamic drivers were and still are the best transducers LOL
preying on gullible idiots - the general
>>108551817NO NO THE NEARLY WEIGHTLESS ETHEREAL MASS OF THE DIAPHRAGM THE EFFORTLESS THE INCREDIBLY THIN DIAPHRAGM THE SPEED SPEED THE SPEED WHY DID THIS HAPPEN HOW COULD A $20 CHINESE DYNAMIC DRIVER DO THIS THIS IS ALL A PSYOP PSYOP PSYOP SHURE IS A PRESTIGIOUS AUDIO COMPAN THEY PAINSTAKINGLY DESIGNED THE FIRST ELECTROSTATIC IEM IT HAS TO BE GOOD IT HAS TO BE GOOD PLEASE PLEASE
what is the lowest distortion most technically pristine IEM anyway? and does it translate into sharp imaging and realistic spatial cue rendering?
>>108551858> DESIGNED THE FIRST ELECTROSTATIC IEMUhhh akshully it was the SR-001 mk1 back in the 1995 and it is quite decent even by modern standards given how gimmiky the fit is
>>108548221What's the thing on the left with the Ryzen 7 sticker?
>>108548364That dislike counter is a placebo and I would suggest uninstalling it
>>108551929omg... is it a laptop??
>>108552264you do realize that i want to have sex with people who type in lowercase with ellipses right
I remember there used to be a headphone general on this board what happened to that? I had a question about mics for my hd600s. I don't want to use a streamer type mic it's just obnoxious and takes up too much space but cheaper desk mics I've seen tried on Amazon suck and seem more for office meetings in a larger room. I've seen modmic but that's more than I want to spend. I've seen some online mic cables but I like the cable I use now. Anyone have similar experiences?
>>108552597just look at this shit, some gay pride fag color themes and zoomer tier quality of posts this is probably the gayest most superficial general on /g/, no audio enthusiast want to be paired with these mental cases. Just looking at some of the "custom" ""designs"" on here makes me wonder if these faggots even care about sound quality at all
>>108552597>>108552649/hpg/ lostaudiocels lostSuperior waifu techs won
What do you guys actually think about the HiBy R1 aside from the OP recommending it? I just want to listen to music without my phone or Spotify, I don't need anything fancy.
hmm I wonder what tranime fur faggotry picture on my pieces of ear cancer defines me the best hmm.. last time I checked earbuds were a thing normal people used to commute or jog with, this whole "in ear monitor" shit is some advanced mental illness because you have to be delusional to compare literal disposable trash to proper headphones and then they paint pictures on them lmfao
>>108551888>the lowest distortion>does it translate into sharp imaging and realistic spatial cue renderinghell no that's not how it works
how do i cope owning this high distortion pos
>>108552700Upgrade to fox IEM.
>>108552696why do you bother taking the time to just reply "no" without elaborating
>>108552715because I can and this general isn't based on big brain audio academia factoids anyway, it's a cesspool of emotional schizo spergs/audio nihilists.
>>108552708orangepill me on fox techs
im a layman, how do i interpret THD and distortion graphs? higher number bad?
>>108552875yes, but after a certain point lower =/= better
>>108552875https://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/research/distortion-audibilityhttps://www.rtings.com/headphones/learn/research/distortion-audibility-listening-testsunless ur deaf that listen to super loud volumes, most iems have distortion low enough that you dont have to worry about and the higher number isnt necessary bad as it depends on the harmonic profile (read about masking in the first link) so something highish but falls inside the masking curve wont be audible but low thd with harmonics falling outside the masking you might hear it
is the dunu ito any good for my music library?
>>108553391not much better than what you can buy for half the price.
>>108548221>fashion tectaking money of weebs its like taking candy from a child
why there is so few BT DACs with a clip? just qudelix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlTrZaR98_I
>>108553563>taking the psychoacoustics angle now.took you long enough
I hate JM-1 + 10dB tilt. What does that say about me?
>>108553816nobody is saying you're supposed to love it. enjoy whatever it is you enjoy and if anyone tries to convince you otherwise, tell them to suck a bag of dicks.
>>108551155does it work with android auto? >>108548221>avoid using mainboard audioso my USB-C cable that plugs into my motherboard isnt good enough? do I need a soundblaster card or something?
>>108553936>USB-C cable that plugs into my motherboardwhat they meant is the headphone jack on the mobo itself. don't use it. do you need a soundblaster card? no, just get a decent dongle and you're set.
>>108551155The big appeal of the Clip was the fact that you could put Rockbox on it. Unless this has the same internals and compatibility it's not that interesting desu
Is Sony's WF-1000XM6 really that great as a noise canceller or is it an overpriced garbage?
>>108555014it's garbage in general
Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio files? My gut feeling is they're just a meme.
>>108553816you sure you hear JM-1 10db tilt?
>>108555451>Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio filesno
>>108548221Any suggestion for budget noise cancelling earphones/headphones? Really just want something that blocks out outside noise
https://tangzu.net/products/tangzu-waner-sg-2-india-version-10mm-pet-driver-single-dynamic-in-ear-monitor-with-detachable-cableWhat the fuck is this? Is the shell made out of cow dung?
I know my question is not gonna be strictly about headphones, but I think this is the best general atm to ask:I have a setup that goes like this:ASUS XDG on Linux to Behringer MS40 through toslink.I often use Beyerdynamic DT770 250 Ohm while using it, but I wanted to move to wireless for some tasks. I recently saw the FIIO BR 13 which would allow me to use BT headphones. My question is, I'm researching how good the MS40 DAC is, so I don't know if I should use Coax out or RCA/3.5mm.Does it matter? am I trying it too hard and whichever would be fine? Thanks
You lost, Skoda won.https://youtu.be/zDaVPfpQvPI
>>108556973>Does it matterno
>>108555510>go to the crinacle's 5128 tool>EQ to JM-1 -1dB/octDuh??
>>108557025>a whole bunch of complex R&D>to make an analog metal bike bell>that is hearable through ANC>the research paper is freengl kinda based for Czech Volkswagen to do this
>>108552700Euphonic harmonic coloration (THD) > Sterile clean pos sound>>108552875You don't, because it does not even matter
>>1085575705128 HRTF is not your HRTFduhwhere's your length modes and what exactly don't you like?
Imagine not recording your own personal HRTF profile bakahttps://youtu.be/qRph8T4L2MU
>>108557892>5128 HRTF is not your HRTFDuh, that's the point of using JM-1, it's some population average. Everyone aiming for it, and it's not average, won't find it neutral or like that tilt, which is a preference thing and not HRTF linked.
>>108553816>I hate JM-1 + 10dB tilt.Most people do. Undipped midbass performs terribly in blind tests.
I hope TWS tips don't become the new meme, they implode when you're lying on your back.
>>108555451many audiophiles invest in crazy expensive speakers just to play a what...$50 record? a $14 CD? you'll never get more information that what's already baked into the audio. you don't need 24-bit over 16-bit and you don't need 96k over 48k.
>>108555451>Is there any reason to hang onto or collect these high samplerate/bitrate 24 bit depth audio files?Unless you have a very specific hardware setup (if you are asking about this, you probably don't), then no.
why do people keep getting this slop and then complains that it's shit? no shit it's shit that has garbage build quality.
>>10855545124 bit is for editing. it sounds exactly the same as 16 bit, even dithered.
>>108560528holy jargon shut your ass up lol
my preference > your preference
Is there such a thing as a half decent gaming iem with mic? Budget under £30.
What IEM should I buy I have no money and like cool music
>>1085613897Hz x Crinacle Zero:2Turtle Beach Battle Buds
>>108561524do this aliexpress trick and get edc pro for free, lil bro
>>108561564how
Bought used IEMs on eBay and seller included a $300 ConX 2-pin system cable. Feels good man
Bought a HiBy R1 because the reviews seem decent and saw it recommended here. Surely /g/ would never lie to me.
Bought to keep the trend.
Got my Tiandirenhe TD21 earbuds. Sound like ass stock but super cozy with EQ.
best iem to listen to the new REZZ album??
every attempt of me getting this from aliexpress has resulted in a refund. and none of them really were much cheaper, i just liked the feeling of using coins and coupons for the perceived savings, when import tax makes it all moot in the end.i just really want one, you know? i'll probably only really use it a few times, and then the occasional take it out of the box and plug it in, but hey, it makes me happy. at least that's what i tell myself, when im alone, in my bed, while crying myself to sleep.im so lonely.
>>108551155>sandisk clip replacementcould only be a real replacement if it's compatible with rockbox. alas, nothing like that exists
is there such thing as decent cheap dac+amp?
>>108563331fosi ds2, moondrop dawn pro, fiio q3, trn black pearl, cayin ru3, protocol max
Are you guys ready for the?*Synphonium Zenith*https://open.spotify.com/track/5BIl5T1vtqE4tRk6eMpBdk?si=KsfFnEHyQASrbuhwIPkdNA
>>108557025>only woman in clip is from HR
>>108557935how to achieve this for home use
>>108563884Dox your face and head shape to private companies so that they can run AI on the reference data to generate a personal HRTF profile. You know, the same shit that Mark Cerny used to talk about. There are no private local solutions available yet unfortunately.
