>>108550462
Yes he was.

he gave us google vendor lock in instead of adobe vendor lock in, nothing was really accomplished and then he died of aids

>>108550507
We'd still be bogged down by Flash and roasting our nuts if he didn't.

>>108550541
now we're bogged down by Chrome and roasting our nuts

>>108550613
Why are you using Chrome, retard?

It used to be easy to hate him because back them flash was everywhere, like mundane websites entirely written in flash with no way around it.
pretty it would eventually die off regardless though

>>108550623
>Firefox takes a shit one update
durr crouum buttur
>Chrome takes a shit one update
durr ferrfoks buttur

Same slop different developer.

i loved he killed it, back then part of your linux install was installing the adobe plugin just to fucking watch jewtube and it needed updating every fucking day cause whoops another cve

Flash remained full of security vulnerabilities despite the almost monthly updates.

after a few months of this is became very clear it was a hot security mess and including it in your os was going to get you hacked 100%

because i lived through that i would rather be a nomodeler using blender than ever touching adobe niggerware

the problem is that now all the bloat of flash is now fully integrated into every browser
you can do literally everything flash could do and more with just plain vanilla html and js

at least back with flash it was contained in an external plugin

>>108551437
most of which has been implemented for shit like cloudflare/anubis to identify you out of trillions and so adsense could better target your ass

>>108550462
only people that are wrong die of cancer.

>>108551501
It wasn't AIDS?

>>108550462
He did it only so they don't have to pay shit to Adobe. HTML5 was not a replacement for Flash, except for basic hover animations and video.

>>108551757
no it was cancer. but this being 4chan feel free to say it's a conspiracy cover up because reasons and continue to believe it was aids.

>>108551437
and yet super deepthroat is stuck on flash and no one made anything better since then
all these fancy bells and whistles for a shitty saas b2b whatever fucking buzzwords you can come up with website with nothing on it that consumes 4 gigs of ram

>>108550462
Would you really want such a large chunk of the web to stay locked into a proprietary browser plugin controlled by a company like Adobe?

>>108550462
All games from appstore/playstore must give Apple/Google 20% of the money they make.
Flash games didn't have to give a cent to Apple or Google.
Of course this was the reason why they killed Flash then kept HTML5 webapps from becoming the standard.
The goal always was to force you to use only apps from their stores, and it worked.

>>108550462
even if you loved flash games u should have had the maturity to admit to urself they were better suited for a dedicated program on your pc and not a web app
you may remember flash games, but what i remember flash for is those banner ads with interactable unskippable audio and video that ran single core cost like a meg of space in your cache and were otherwise some of the worst things the web had to offer
by blocking flash steve killed the worst ads on the internet, though they'd come back in javascript and html 5

>>108552639
>even if you loved flash games u should have had the maturity to admit to urself they were better suited for a dedicated program on your pc and not a web app
i do not admit this, flash games were rad

>by blocking flash steve killed the worst ads on the internet, though they'd come back in javascript and html 5
i have no idea what your talking about, the web is way more unusable without ad block today than then. i don't remember flash making websites unusable

whoaa we replaced Adobe's ecmascript VM and bloat with google's ecmascript VM and bloat
now the vulnerabilities aren't being duplicated great

>>108551437
>contained as a plugin
yeah, and you had sites that were ALL flash. didn't have flash? all you got was an empty page. at best, you had half functioning sites. people don't truly remember how fucking awful it was when flash ruled, if they didn't have flash. flash wasn't something that came shipped by default with browsers. and then you ran into the whole "version" issue. you had flash, but it was versions behind, and results in situation no differently than not having flash. it was fucking awful.
yeah, it sucks, because flash games where killed. i miss those. but ultimately, the web as a whole, from a browsing experience, became significantly better in the terms of browsing support. you don't have to worry about broken sites anymore because you are either missing or have an outdated plugin.
html5 didn't just fix the issue of flash, it also fixed video playback as well because no longer do you need some sort of video player plugin either.
if a site is broken, its broken because of developer retardation. the changes of it being broken because of you, the user, is much slimmer than before.

>>108550462
No, he only hated flash because he couldn't monetize it

>>108551437
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>>108551354
samefag
>>108550462
he didnt kill flash, adobe did. understand that iphones cant even natively open .webm

flash died because adobe stopped supporting it and didnt want to make it part of creative cloud since it was so different from the rest of the product stack. Fact of the matter is I was still balls deep into flash as late as 2016 and my android phones ran it fine, didnt care about losing reach with itoddlers because literally happens anyways?

flash was doomed the moment it was bought by adobe, and just look how it would have turned out. super gay subscription service and probably so many 'security' updates that remove functionality


this thread is adobe defense force desu

>>108550462
Flash was like a containment board: it was shit, but at least it could be disabled, isolated from the "real" web that was static and lean as it should be. Now all its shittiness and bloat have seeped into HTML itself.

>>108550462
Yes. Plugins were always niggerlicious, slow, bloated and battery hogs. I wholeheartedly support the removal of flash to instead favor HTML5 canvas.

>>108551354
You just triggered my PTSD about the fucking flash plugin.

>>108553377
i hadn't considered that
it's a good point

>>108550462
flash wasn't the problem
ANY tool that advertisers use was, and continues to be, the problem

>>108550462
Yes, because of the inevitable security holes.
But the Flash editor was great.

>>108552363
But Steve Apple was gay, right? Just like his son Tim Apple who inherited the company.

>>108552363
Jobs was an raging homosexual
Thats why he was all tense and frustrated all the time. Full blown public homosex wasnt fully accepted in those days.
He tried to have a woman and a kid and having the gay left him feeling frustrated so that didn't work and that's should tell you what was going on

>Was he right
Yes and no. Flash was fucking awesome, but adobe wasn't actively maintaining it. Also flash wasn't an open standard which created problems for the web. Its not a good thing for the web to be so dependent on what is ostensibly a close source proprietary product. I wish flash could have been saved. Yes I know ruffle exists, but it feels like too little too late.

>>108552372
>super deepthroat
I can't believe there hasn't been a spiritual successor, that game was truly lightning in a bottle

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>>108553558
>ostensibly

>>108550462
yes. Fuck Adobe.

>>108550462
>killed flash because it's making the web slow
>makes the web even slower via javascript
What did the industry mean by this?

>>108550462
correct in that he flash and got apple addicted to that sweet app store revenue.
wrong in that apple are now addicted to services revenue and the os and app quality has dropped to get more services revenue.

>>108550462
/f/lash is still alive while Jobs is dead.

>>108550462
we went from Actionscript to Javascript, somehow the internet became way worse in the process

>>108550462
I remember tech nerds celebrating killing it. It was a security and resource nightmare

>>108550462
Pretty much every time some big company does a standards change and tech nerds seethe, it turns out in the end that the company was right all along.

This is especially evident in UI changes to software. Existing users can NEVER be trusted to have a useful or even coherent opinion on changes to whatever bullshit they just got used to.