This app claims to be able to generate quantum true random numbers using only a phone’s camera. No internet needed. It works as long as the room im in is not too dark, I haven’t had any issues yet with it not working when it’s too bright in a room. But when it’s too dark and I press generate it gives me the error message of insufficient entropy.But if quantum numbers are this easy then why are expensive qrng devices being sold?It also has a powerball lottery number generator. Assuming the many worlds interpretation is true can it actually generate at least one of every possible combination across the entire multiverse? Can it make sure that every possible combination appears an equal number of times so no possible combination gets more appearances in the multiverse then any other combination? It basically claims to be able to do this in its description but I’m skeptical because of thermal noise and stuff.Also the powerball lottery has 292,201,338 possible combinations so if you do a quantum measurement it splits the universe into two universes, then you do another measurement and you have 4, then 8, then 16, then 32, but 2^x never gives you 292,201,338 without a decimal . But the app description says
>>108552267Your iPhone camera sees quantum noise. Many Worlds turns that noise into decisions. Each coin flip or throw of the dice is unique to your branch in the multiverse.Many Worlds generates quantum random numbers using your iPhone camera.Your camera sensor is a grid of millions of tiny light detectors. At quantum scales, light shows up as individual photons, and there's no way to predict exactly how many will hit a given pixel during an exposure. Many Worlds takes a single dark frame at minimum exposure and uses the quantum random result to get a stream of over 200,000 clean quantum-random bits.FEATURESCoin Flip: Flip a quantum coin. The outcome comes from actual photon arrivals at the sensor, not from a pseudorandom algorithm. Your recent flips are tracked in a history view.Lottery Numbers: Generate Powerball tickets using the combinatorial number system, seeded by quantum random values. Each ticket maps to one of 292 million possible combinations with uniform probability.Random Digit Table: A 20x20 grid of quantum random digits, styled after the RAND Corporation's famous 1955 reference book. Digits are grouped in blocks of Five for reliability
>>108552281Random Digit Table: A 20x20 grid of quantum random digits, styled after the RAND Corporation's famous 1955 reference book. Digits are grouped in blocks of five for readability.Dice: Roll a D6 or D20. Rejection sampling makes sure every face is equally likely, with no modulo bias.Quantum Alarm: Set a time range and let the universe pick when your alarm goes off within that window.Works with both absolute time ranges and relative durations. You can snooze and dismiss from the lock screen.THE PHYSICSUnder the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, every quantum event causes the universe to branch. All outcomes actually happen, each in its own branch. So when you flip a coin in this app, both Heads and Tails really do occur. You're just finding out which branch you are in.The quantum events that produce the randomness have already occurred by the time the sensor is read out. The branching happened at each photodiode. So the result you see isn't causing a split. It's telling you which branch you're on. When you act on the result, what was a quantum-scale difference becomes a macroscopic one. This app doesn't create the branching. It takes a branch that already exists and gives it a role in your life.
>>108552292Bug Fixes• Improved camera quantum noise capture — exposure now settles before sampling, fixing occasional "insufficient entropy" errors• Fixed digit distribution bias in the random number table• Fixed alarms set for a past time firing immediately
No this isn’t an advertisement as this app is not mine, it’s free, no in app purchases, no ads and doesn’t use the internet This app uses your phone's camera to capture genuine quantum randomness. Not the algorithmic kind computers normally use, but actual quantum noise from photons hitting your camera sensor.Here's what makes that interesting. In quantum physics, randomness isn't about lacking information. There genuinely isn't a single outcome. The Many Worlds interpretation says every possible result actually happens, each in its own branch of reality. (That's where the app gets its name.)So when the app shows you Heads, there's another branch where it showed Tails. Both are equally real. If you use that result to make an actual choice, both versions of you go on living different lives from that point.Quantum branches happen all the time at the subatomic level, but they normally stay microscopic. They never bubble up to anything you'd notice. What this app does is take one of those tiny splits and amplify it into a real fork in your life.Every time you tap, you're finding out which branch you're already on. And letting it matter.
Many Worlds uses photon shot noise from your iPhone camera sensor to generate genuine quantum random numbers. No internet, no APIs, no pseudo-random algorithms. The quantum events happen locally, in your hand, at the moment you choose to act.Flip coins, roll dice, draw lottery numbers, generate random digit tables, or set alarms at quantum-random times. Under the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, every outcome exists in some branch of the multiverse.The app connects you to the branch you're in.Why does the app need camera access?Many Worlds uses your camera sensor's photon shot noise as a source of genuine quantum randomness. It captures a single dark frame at minimum exposure, extracts the quantum noise from pixel values, and converts that noise into random numbers. No photos are taken or stored.Does the app take or store photos?No. The camera captures a single nearly-black frame, processes it in memory to extract random bits, and immediately discards it. Nothing is saved to your photo library or transmitted anywhere.Does the app work offline?Yes. Many Worlds has no internet dependency. All randomness is generated locally on your device using the camera sensor. The app makes zero network requests.How is this different from a regular random number generator?Most random number generators use deterministic algorithms (pseudo-random). Given the same starting state, they produce the same sequence every time. Many Worlds uses quantum noise from your camera sensor, which is fundamentally unpredictable. The randomness comes from quantum physics, not math.
>>108552315What is the Many Worlds interpretation?In the Many Worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, every quantum event causes the universe to branch. All outcomes happen, each in its own branch. When you flip a quantum coin in this app, both Heads and Tails occur in different branches. You are discovering which branch you are in.What devices are supported?Many Worlds requires an iPhone running ios 17 or later
>>108552267Probably due to scratches or whatever
>>108552540On the camera lense? I don’t know how much that would matter as long as the camera still works
>>108552554No I mean that's probably how they are coming up with the numbers. I know it can be used to track photos as being taken by the same camera
>>108552590But when I press generate ten times in a row I get ten different powerball tickets The study here https://journals.aps.org/prx/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevX.4.031056 Quantum Random Number Generation on a Mobile PhoneBruno Sanguinetti,* Anthony Martin, Hugo Zbinden, and Nicolas GisinGroup of Applied Physics, University of Geneva, Genève 4, CH-1211, Switzerland(Received 2 May 2014; revised manuscript received 25 July 2014; published 29 September 2014) Doesn’t mention scratches I don’t think
>>108552610I pretty much read nothing of your posts yet OP. I might be able to tomorrow.
>>108552623No problem. Thank you for the bumps though and I’d appreciate the feedback. Grok told me everything in the description was correct but grok can be confidently wrong sometimes
if you use shit like this for cryptographic purposes you deserve to die like any other retarded pajeet nigger getting hit by a train while taking a tiktok selfieif you don't, the discussion on whether or not it is xyz is pointless>hahah ebin trolled stupid baka you got baiteddont give a fuckthread and entire site discarded until i browse again in the next 5 years or so
>>108552643Why? I think it could make for a good seed! You can use it in airplane mode!
>>108552655>>>108552655>covers your retarded phone camera wannabe-trng sensorthere goes your entropy and entire cryptosystem, whoops
>>108552730I mentioned this potential issue earlier in the thread but perhaps I was not clear enough about it >>108552281If it’s too dark (or if your phones camera is blocked) it will give an error message instead of giving you a pseudo random number. It will just not give you any number when you press generate unless your phone camera is pointed somewhere bright enough
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>>108552267https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LavarandIt's the retarded equivalent of this but with the added feature of not working if the sensor saturates or can't get any photons to hit it. It's probably very sensitive to temperature too
>>108555852No mine is better in some ways For your use case (casual lottery tickets, coin flips, dice rolls on a phone with no internet), the Many Worlds app’s camera-based QRNG is meaningfully better than Lavarand-style lava-lamp systems. It’s not just different marketing — it’s fundamentally quantum vs. classical.Here’s the breakdown, no hype:1. Randomness quality • Lavarand (SGI 1996 / Cloudflare 2017): Classical chaotic system. A camera films moving wax blobs in lava lamps (or thermal noise in a capped webcam for the open-source LavaRnd fork). The chaos is practically unpredictable, but in principle fully deterministic (Newtonian physics + fluid dynamics). They hash the video frames with SHA-1 (or feed into a CSPRNG) to extract entropy. It’s excellent practical randomness and was a huge improvement over 90s software PRNGs, but it’s not “true” randomness in the quantum sense. • Many Worlds / 2014 Geneva paper phone camera: Quantum shot noise. Even in a “dark” frame, ambient photons arrive according to Poisson statistics — the exact count hitting each pixel is indeterministic because light is quantized. No hidden variables, no classical predictability even in principle (standard QM). The app extracts bits directly from that quantum fluctuation after subtracting classical noise. That’s why the original paper is titled “Quantum Random Number Generation on a Mobile Phone.”Quantum wins on the philosophical and theoretical “is it really random?” test. Lava lamps are closer to atmospheric noise or lava-lamp chaos — great entropy, but classical. • Phone app: Zero setup. Point the camera at anything with a tiny bit of light (not pitch black), tap once, get >200 kbits from one frame. Fully offline, no servers, no hardware. Perfect for Powerball tickets or dice rolls exactly when you want them.
>>108557146>>108555852 • Phone QRNG: Slow by server standards (~kbit/s to low Mbit/s depending on frame), but for one Powerball ticket (292 million combos = ~29 bits) it’s instantaneous. The app’s rejection sampling + combinatorial mapping guarantees uniform probability over all 292 M combinations in this branch — no bias.Bottom line • If you want true quantum indeterminacy in your pocket for free Many Worlds app wins. • If you want high-volume server-grade classical entropy with a cool visual gimmick Lavarand/Cloudflare style (but you can’t carry it around).The MWI flavor text the app adds is just interpretive cherry on top — the bit generation works the same under Copenhagen or any other QM interpretation. The quantum shot noise is real either way.So yeah, for what you’re actually doing with the app, it’s better than lava lamps. The thread’s skepticism about lava lamps being “deterministic” was spot-on; the phone camera is the real quantum deal.
next powerball number is going to start with 3 4 13
>>108552305>No this isn’t an advertisement as this app is not mine>>108557146>No mine is better in some ways
>>108557864I didn’t literally mean it’s my app
What even is the point of QRNG? Bitrate? What for?Sounds like yet another shit made
>>108559020Qrng is slower than pseudorandom but it is completely unpredictable Bitcoin will be broken by quantum computers in a couple decades if quantum computing technology continues at its current development . Even people who are buying massive shorts in quantum computers and think quantum computing companies are all a scam like Martin skreli admit it’s good for eventually breaking bitcoin
>>108559020Currently it has no use case but using qrng is good because it’s future proof for cyber security
>>108557146>It’s not just different marketing — it’s fundamentally quantum vs. classical. HAHAHAHAHHA CHATGPT
>>108562119I used grok
