>>108552675
Ok is there a better alternative (there isn't)

>>108552687
Windows and MacOS of course, but you lack the self confidence to admit it in the face of the zealots and other Stockholm-syndrome inflicted victims.

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they might be better for some tasks, but boy im not using that slop lol

>>108552806
Do you own a phone? Ever make an online purchase? Have an email account? There's far more useful information to sell to data brokers from those sources than the way you interact with the start menu. Also from what I've seen, GNOME and KDE would like to encourage more telemetry so they know which features people use, and how well they're working.

>>108552675
more like corporations noticed a free useful server os and began using it.

Works on my machine.

>>108552847
Absolutely, but we can't say they haven't contributed a ton of resources back into it. Even as it became a popular choice for webservers, it had an inferior network stack to BSD. This was a common sense and pragmatic application, wholly unrelated to FOSStard ideology.

I use linux mostly but I just booted into windows 11 to play a game. You can use different operating systems.

this angle isnt going to work. the normalfags have already taken over. i jumped ship to windows (11 pro btw)

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>>108552675
linux is the worst thing to ever happen to consumer computing

>>108552675
>use macos at work
>use linux at home
>boot windows with gpu passthrough and no network access for gayming at home
consider use cases

>>108552998
Probably, and not even for the tech itself, but the petty squabbles and time wasted arguing for one distro or another.

>>108552701
You clearly aren't intelligent enough to escape Microsoft and Apple's humiliation rituals, have fun getting fucked in the ass, I guess.

>>108553832
>You clearly aren't intelligent enough
Ughhhhh. We’re reaching levels of midwit that shouldn’t be possible. Shouldn’t you be on /r/atheism with these banger posts?

>>108553848
Works on my machine, nigger

welcome back, linux hater. why so mild? have you been castrated? did somebody hurt you?

>>108552675
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>108553848
>Shouldn’t you be on /r/atheism with these banger posts?
No but thanks for reminding me I have a banging date with your mom later tonight.

>>108552675
It's a very wrong opinion. Linux is easier to use than windows or Mac as well as having more control and more options if you do want to customize, there is no legitimate usecase for for windows at all anymore and Mac is only good for people who have too much money and are absolutely completely tech-illiterate and need everything done for them.

The reason Linux fellers go on so much is because most of us avoided using it because it would be hard and inconvenient and we would have to learn a lot to be able to use it, then we started using it we realized that wasn't the case at all, and we spent years on windows because of people saying all this dumb and wrong shit that hasn't been true for at least 10 years. So when we see this dumb and wrong shit we feel the need to correct it, so others aren't misled as we were.

>>108554174
>Linux is easier to use than windows
Oh you want to play videos? Weird ask, but you need codecs... Just le heckin' copy+paste le science below into your terminal.

sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264

sudo dnf config-manager setopt fedora-cisco-openh264.enabled=1

sudo dnf install vlc

sudo dnf install python-vlc

It's so intuitive, imagine actually using a Mac.

>>108554174
>Mac is only good for people who have too much money
You're supposed to pay for linux too, etiher with your time or a donation. Otherwise you're a freeloader and a very bad communist.

>we we we we we
There's that collective voice again. Daily reminder: You are nothing, you contribute absolutely noting and can only take take take from the community.

you have a point. many users would not notice if you swapped their linux to bsd, as long as you keep the software stack same.

>>108554243
I would definitely notice the loss of drivers that makes my hardware stop working, quit being retarded.

>>108554201
Is this really the fedora experience out of the box?
Don't you get all the necessary shit with KDE?

>>108552863
>it had an inferior network stack to BSD
>source: my ass

>>108554201
Look at this seething shill. You get all media codecs installed out of the box on any of the 'just werks' distros. Even something like Arch, unless you choose not to you will have everything you need either in the kernel, Arch itself, or your desktop environment. I couldn't even believe how easy installing Arch was. I thought OK, I tried the easy distros, now I'll get the REAL Linux experience I kept hearing about.

But no, it was a little more fucking around to install then everything worked fine and I never had to do anything.

>>108554219
>You're supposed to pay for linux too, etiher with your time or a donation.
No you're not, you may choose to if you like. I have contributed with software, but it doesn't actually matter if you do or you don't. Doesn't make anyone a 'freeloader', we want people to use our software.

want to touch my deck anon?

the modular meme has forever poisoned linux IMO
for me, it’s windows or freebsd

>>108554352
Er, yeah. I thought this was common knowledge? There was a big effort in the early 2000s to bring linux up to speed with UNIX systems which were far more mature. Linux was chosen as the server OS because of the extremely permissive license.

>>108554381
>we want people to use our software.
Cuck.

>>108554389
>, it’s windows or freebsd
A real nigga.

>>108552675
it's much better than it used to be 15 years ago.
I think many of the hardcore zealots lost their spark after all that corporate money started flowing into various high profile open source projects.
If only GIMP could get their heads out of their asses.

>>108552701
I'm no Linux fanboy but Windows is objectively shit. I'm a tech brainlet and even I got fed up with that shit. It's filled with bloat and spyware and trying to debloat it leaves you with a half broken system. You can't even set it up without creating an online account by default Goddamnit. Linux breathed new life into my PC and even fixed all the HDR issues I had despite it's not even a mature feature. On winblows random applications had less brightness or some other stupid shit.
And MacOS is locked to apples stupid hardware so its not even a serious discussion there

>>108552675
>nigger goes to tech enthusiast forum
>complains people like the only OS that doesnt treat you like a retard

being a linux user means replying to every low effort bait with a 200 word essay because you are so smart.

>>108554600
Seething is open source
Responding to bait is a sacrifice of your own sanity where you hope lurkers read it

>>108552675
true, but you got a whole industry shoe-horning a browser scripting language to make applications and stuff, so you really can't tell who's right.

>>108552675
They want to larp as systems engineers. I've used linux and bsd for 20 years and have never once felt the desire to talk about it on the internet.

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>>108552675
>complains about linux sucking the air out of tech discussion
>immediately pivots to comparing OSes instead of specific programs or uses for tech
You're doing the same thing you're complaining about. Who cares if I am running a thing on Mac or Linux? You can get most things on most systems. You can code on almost anything. It doesn't matter. This thread is obviously not about your subject dishonest homogay

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>>108552701
>Stockholm-syndrome inflicted victims
The fucking irony.

>>108552838
>why do you care about being spied upon, goy?

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>>108552838
>Do you own a phone?
No
>Ever make an online purchase?
No
>Have an email account?
Never heard of it

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>>108552675
>Sucks all the air out of tech discussion
kek imagine having a "tech discussion" NOT relating to linux or software primary FOR linux.

>>108552675
Intresting bait. Linux has had multiple good desktip environments and userland applications for years.
3/10, the "server os" approach is getting kinda old

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>>108555471
You call it bait but then try to debunk it. If I fed you a turd on a plate would you eat it and give a review? What causes this behavior in morons honestly

>>108552806
u mean microsoft's known how i've been using my pc for the last 11 years? wtf dude

>>108555502
>You call it bait but then try to debunk it. If I fed you a turd on a plate would you eat it and give a review? What causes this behavior in morons honestly
kek not that anon but I use windows every god damn day for work and it is awful in every god damn way imaginable. I hate it and I'm applying for new jobs based on that alone. they baited me by putting me on a OSX team then switching me to a windows team for a new project.

>>108555502
If you use Windows, that's exactly what you're doing. Eating a giant turd.

>>108552675
There are problems with linux.
There are also massive problems with macOS and windows (bloated, inflexible trash full of advertisements).
But have fun if you enjoy those.

>>108555502
>If I fed you a turd on a plate
You already did with your moronic opinion

>>108552675
I dunno man I stayed away from Linux as a desktop for like 20 years because Windows was good enough for me but after it got progressively shittier I installed Fedora KDE just to check Linux out, fully expecting to return to my Win10 installation after getting filtered by something but it's actually really easy to learn and just works and doesn't give me the few daily issues I have on Windows like monitors forgetting which screen I had shit on when I turn them off or requiring frequent repairing of some bluetooth devices. After 2 weeks I mosly forgot I was on a whole new OS.
Feels like anyone who says desktop Linux sucks either tried some weird do it yourself tinker distro they didn't have the skill to maintain or hasn't tried Linux in years.

>>108553768
>having a choice is bad

Hey look, a Mossad theead!

>>108552675
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