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JUNO-XJ9 edition

>News
GLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514#m
Xiaomi MiMo V2 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-pro
Anthropic SUING USA: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/tech/anthropic-sues-pentagon
Google to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988#m
Google Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecations
Google releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/

Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
Jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
GPT: https://platform.openai.com/docs
Claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
Gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
Deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
Local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
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Services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
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>Previous: >>108544615
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>>ANCHOR
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no news untill i wake up, or an anon wants to do it, and idk if ill bake the next thread because ill be afk
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>>108554342
Stay based
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>>108554377
hoping the NSA finds you and throws you in Bubba's same cell
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>>108554390
I know you find the idea of heterosexuality repulsive but please keep your comments to yourself
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>>108549852
Nta but I'm also noticing that it has some retarded lapses in logic, it happened twice in an hour while I used to go with Opus for days without needing to swipe.
One time I also got an output that felt like the kind of output you get when the temp is turned waaaay up (full schizobabble), even though I didn't mess with my preset at all. I don't know what happened there.
It also doesn't write like as fast AWS Claude, it's significantly slower.

Something is definitely off about pomidor's Claude.
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>>108554451
Considering he was experimenting with the AWS endpoint actually forwarding to mythos, IIRC, for april fools I'd just assume that it's not actually claude at all and another, easier to find, model.
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>>108554412
Projecting much? You're the one who masturbates to the idea of raping little boys
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small log so the thread isn't logless
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>>108554459
That's the weird part, it still has the Claude -isms like its naming pattern: Henderson, Peterson, Patterson, Rodriguez. (I haven't gotten a Chen in my 10 swipes though but that could be because of context)
If anything, I'd say it feels like Sonnet 3 with how heavily it sticks to personality and not changing it over time, maybe?
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>>108554390
No one's getting arrested over text they didn't write
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>>108554377
>shitty avatar fagging thread spam
>your service
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I don't feel good asking for spoonfeeding but I rarely know where to search for this type of thing so like, sorry.

I'm on Deepseek via Chutes (which I have no problems with, quality-wise), but recently it's either slow af or just goes down all of a sudden.

Basically I wanna know what is everyone using nowadays?
Are proxies still a thing? Or some kind of free option?
If not then what's like, the cheapest option rn?
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>>108554487
Not that weird. A fine tune built off claude outputs is totally doable.
Plus i'm 100% that Henderson has naturally made the jump over to Gemini thanks to all the synthetic data being used nowadays.
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>>108554524
>Are proxies still a thing?
not really, I think there's 2 public ones floating around
the rest are gatekept if they even exist
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>>108554524
OpenRouter is fine. I dunno what the Chutes situation is like but OR has every flavor of Deepseek available best I can tell as well as the gorillion other chink models, making it easy to give them a shot too. Also a couple free options for the new Gemma model set popped up today so there's that. With OpenRouter you can get 50 messages per day on free models, infinite if you pop 10 bucks into your account.
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>>108554546
I never considered it but if the one I'm using currently goes away it's doomed for me
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>>108554545
Now that you mention it, it's possible that it could be Gemini, since this is supposed to be a coomer card but all she's doing is roasting me.
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>>108554546
I'm more surprised that there are any frankly.

>>108554564
>OpenRouter
I see. Is there any difference from using Deepseek from OR vs Chutes?
>infinite if you pop 10 bucks into your account
Really? Like, a one time only payment?
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I wonder why there isn't Opus Proxies because you can't get it from OR right so it shouldn't be hard to use it for the Proxy
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>>108554599
>I see. Is there any difference from using Deepseek from OR vs Chutes?
To my knowledge, no. In fact, Chutes serves a bunch of models, including Deepseek, through OR. If they piss you off you can block them though lmao
>Really? Like, a one time only payment?
Yep, my understanding is as long as your credit count has been above 10USD at some point you can gorge on free models as much as you want. I'm like 90% sure it remains that way if you spend part of it too, but I put 15 in when they enacted that rule just in case.
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>>108554622
It's disproportionately expensive so it just chews through the OR credit.
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>>108554629
that has nothing to do with what i posted, mass reply nigger-kun
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>>108554636
Come on man, don't feed the schizo free (You)s. You should know better.
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>>108554643
guess i'll close the tab in shame
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>>108554598
Pretty sure it's a deepseek model.
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>>108554634
Why are there people who keep saying they have Opus and act like their model will "beat" Opus but don't have the same soul nor smarts as Opus at all
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>>108554653
Oh I never used Deepseek before so I don't know what it looks like. I guess I do now?
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Why are everyone unable make something that can beat Opus
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>>108554623
That's cool. Think I'm gonna give OR a try and then put some credits if I like it enough. Thanks anon!

Out of curiosity, what's a popular model in these threads currently?
I don't want something too new cause they usually burn through credits too fast.
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>>108554671
Claude's the only big-money supported model with prefill. Now that it's gone though, expect it to stagnate much like GPT.
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>>108554727
Does Gemini not also support prefill?
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>>108554780
nope
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>>108554686
If price is the killer you may as well stick with Deepseek, I think it's the cheapest by far. I've been using GLM 5/5.1 lately and comparatively it's much pricier but at the end of the day it's still cheap as shit and my spend is about a dollar a month. 4.6 and 4.7 are much cheaper and I think a couple dudes swear by it but I haven't experimented enough to offer an opinion. Some other guy has been shilling the hell out of Kimi and iirc it's alright, I think Mimo is supposed to be okay but it's super prudish and offers denials a lot.
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>>108554799
why pay anything?
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>>108554697
Pedos reproduce by rape, and since women can't rape men so... its obvious to everyone how you became one.
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I like first person user POV
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>>108554813
I'm white.
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>>108554671
>inventors of piracy now proudly pay
how the mighty have fallen
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>>108554848
>>108554858
oh oops, my eyes don't work
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where is skill isssueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>108554922
It's actually over, I don't know any other source, if it doesn't come back I'm going to have to quit this for a few years until I can get a job
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>>108554629
>>108554656
>>108554671

>>108554899
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>>108554893
Holy cope.
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How do you wake up your character in your RP anon?
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>>108554970
slap their titties around
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>>108554960
I sneed your concession
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>>108554983
see >>108554960
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>>108554995
see >>108554634
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Is there a a single model out there that doesn't describe braces as "cool" during a bj? Because those things are not cool, they're in someones mouth all the time. They mouth temperature.
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>>108554970
what do you think would have to happen for Rudolf to cheat on her trainer?
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>>108555004
I think we should shoot you in the head. There's no actual reason for you to be alive.
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>>108554307
In the dark dystopian future of 2027, tomboys were made illegal. Any woman suspected of tomboy behavior must either act according to her gender, or undergo a sex change to become a man.
Your childhood friend Joanna is one of those suspected tomboys. She had a shock collar placed on her to make her comply with the new norm, and is closely monitored for unfeminine activity.
5 openings.
1. 1 week after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna asks you to help her learn how to cook to convince the government she can be feminine.
2. 2 months after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna is finally deemed fit to go out in public, even if she's not quite comfortable being seen while looking so feminine.
3. 1 year after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna laments her lost gains and overall softer physique after a year of no lifting and mandatory estrogen microdoses.
4. (BAD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo was v& a year ago, and today someone new moved into her house: "Joe".
5. (GOOD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo has become a symbol of tomboy resistance. And she just reached out to you.
https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/joanna-2beb932acc94
https://files.catbox.moe/ccbb6y.png
https://rentry.org/anonemouse
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Is $0.005 per DeepSeek V3.2 request normal?
I feel like I fucked up my preset and that it's more expensive than it should be.
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>seiko dead
>skill issue down
please i want to gooooooooooooooooon to txt
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>>108555066
I miss seiko.
Hope they are doing well, one of the real OGs
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I hope that tranny Fiz is fucking dead.
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>>108555066
Get a job, parasite
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whoever came up with the idea of using tranny as a derogatory is a genius
it did more for normalizing trannies than a thousand movements ever could
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>>108555093
ive stolen 6 figures worth of LLM compute
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I miss 2.1 and furbo era...
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>>108555104
You're a deepseek lowlife slopper
You've only stolen the equivalent of a big mac
Your entire life isn't even worth an entire mc combo
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>>108555108
i miss ToddGPT
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>>108555063
Depends on how many token you use
3.1 is better btw
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>>108555002
glm 5.1 almost gets it.
deepseek does as deepseek does.
the later gpt models might get it(?) but changing presets would have ruined the point imo
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>>108555136
oh and
> The braces aren’t just smooth metal; they’re there.
might be the greatest thing an ai has written
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any shake-ups in the model meta or is it still the same?
>gpt
lol
>claude
not bad but overpriced for what you get
>gemini
smart but stale with a dogshit filter
>glm
can sometimes cook hard but 95% of the time its just retarded, or maybe it needs a different kind of wrangling than my preset gives

i haven't tried any chink models because i assume you get what you pay for when it comes to them
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>>108555150
reading comprehension doko
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>>108555158
Face it little guy, the fact you think its overpriced means you're poor
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I'm surprised at how uncensored Gemma is. Doesn't even need at jailbreak
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I'm surprised at how uncensored Opus 4.6 is. Doesn't even need a jailbreak
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Why not just pay for Claude and have it make a model tuned for RP?
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Why not just pay for Grok and have it make a model tuned for RP?
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Why not just do it yourself if you're not retarded and poor?
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>>108555020
man I'm just asking a question
I like that Rudolf is tomboyish yet also motherly in a non-gooner way, so for her to cheat there would have to be a strong incentive to remain silent and not voice dissatisfaction with her trainer, like {{user}} got cancer or something leaving every other trainer wondering why she stopped racing, wasting her talent
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>>108555232
HUGE redpill
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>>108555238
I changed my mind; you should be crucified.
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>>108555238
nobody cares, faggot
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New megallm just dropped
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>>108555491
Link?
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>>108555511
>pls saaaaar do be sharting the link
>I must do the needful and swipe on 200k context saaaaar
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>time for my nightly fap
>skillgod is down
oh.....
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>>108555582
Die, Locust~
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https://xcancel.com/teortaxesTex/status/2041733011352248418#m
Bros... We won.
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>>108555612
>
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>>108555612
Are you seriously as retarded as the twitter poster?
What does the phrase character limit imply to you? Or invalid character?
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>>108555628
>/character/detail
>/character/mine
https://xcancel.com/xhyctf/status/2041696011933118854#m
Retard.
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so all that waiting for glm 5.1 and it's sloppet 4.6 tier?
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>>108555700
I rescind the retard, retard.
Deepseek is still pretty dumb a lot of the time so this might actually be good. It's more exciting than a potential v4 for me at least
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>>108555729
It's not as smart as Sonnet but I like it's prose better.
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>>108555612
>xcancel
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>>108555119
>3.1 is better btw
Really? Why?
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>>108555491
>>108555518
Why even post it if you're gonna be like that, then. I don't understand, is it a new form of smugposting?
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>GLM-5.1 was achieved without access to an EUV machine.
>This is considered an impossible feat so distillation is the only possible explanation.
>What comes next is a comprehensive national security review comprised of top US intelligence agencies and AI labs
DC believes the US needs to pay attention to how Chinese are gaining access to US models for distillation rather than on what Chinese labs are doing which is less interesting
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>>108556408
>EUV machine
I'm not interested in the topic enough to watch a video, but couldn't they have just built their own?
They were getting stonewalled or something by anything officially american owned from what I've seen on the catalog, but official doesn't mean much.
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>>108556436
They haven't cracked the precise optics and molten tin generator Zeiss and Cymer developed but is very close. The scariest part desu is they are creating a fully domestic supply chain whereas the supply chain for semiconductors is global.
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Who cares? Dario MOGS everyone.
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>remove prefill entirely and put more direct, simplified version of it into main prompt
>suddenly get less rejections
interdasting.
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No skill no life
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What's even the point of glm, if I wanted claude flavor I'd just use fucking claude
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>>108556899
You mean something that no longer exist in any proxies and why would you use GLM when it can't act in character at least for me it don't
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>>108556957
>it can't act in character
that's what he said
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>>108557019
So why do GLM exist in that case because it don't have the smarts as Opus
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what the fuck is this ESL retard babbling about?
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>>108557210
Because you persons keep insisting that glm is good when it dont even act in character and is dumb
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>>108557241
Reread the post or is this bait nigga
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>>108557210
It's his new form of trolling since he can't spam slurs because the janny will clean his diaper.
Reminder; the opus you and I care about is gone forever, and the retard thinks it's funny to pretend to be esl while baiting (you).
It's still trolling though, and breaking the rules.
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>>108555112
this guy thinks 6 figures of deep seek is possible to use in a lifetime?
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>>108555612
>>108555700
D4 HYPE
DEEPCHINK BROS WE ARE SO BACK
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>>108557402
>Still worse than opus
*Yawn*
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What's the best model to goon to? Been trying with MiMo, but found it was a bit too tame unless you give it a lot of direction
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>>108556436
>>108556473
I hope they manage to make it work just to piss off my retarded politicians
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>>108557695
GLM 5 has been my go to recently
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>>108555256
isn't most botmakin like that too? throwing wet paper against a wall and seeing what sticks
my post is no different, consider it a cftf at worst, there's little to no Uma ntr in fan media
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>>108557727
there is plenty of NTR in uma
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How do i import this wtf does his mean
>>108552969
>>108553747
it's a jpeg not a charx and it won't import
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>>108557861
>charx
huh???
what frontend?
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>>108557893
sillytavern
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>>108557899
well the image 404d so idk what to tell you
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What's the consensus on Mythos? This thing seems to have a lot of devs in total despair.
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>>108557908
https://litter.catbox.moe/5bww14xbn27lfrqx.jpeg
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>>108557930
>the image could not be displayed because it contains errors
well there you go
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>>108557946
huh
oh well...
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>>108557708
How good is it acting and staying in character and is it as smart as Opus
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>>108557914
yeah because their jobs are vanishing
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Bro doesnt even try to make believable bait anymore, he just says Opus and looks at you like this.
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>>108557914
What consensus are you hoping for? Anthropic did away with prefills and nobody has access to Mythos. Chances are it'll be more assistant slopped but I don't give a shit about its ability to code.
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>>108558037
KEKAROO
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ITS OUT
https://ai.meta.com/blog/introducing-muse-spark-msl/
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Is it Skillgod having issues atm or just google in general?
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>>108558256
its skillgod
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>>108558273
Sadge
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>>108558246
HOLY FUCK
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Is the assumption that skill is totally dead, or that some models currently don't work?
Because I just checked the nigga's rentry and he's already got a new link up.
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>>108558280
THE NEW RP KING IS HERE, KNEEL
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>>108558290
It's "up" but I've been getting denials and upstream errors for the last two or three hours pretty consistently, taking ~10 attempts between getting a response when prompting.
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QRD on Muse Spark?
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>>108558246
>not on OR yet
Gaaaaaahh
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i came to the conclusion that ai is bullshit.
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>>108558246
First lab that shows benchmarks with Grok lol
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DOA
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>>108558459
*prefills your sparkussy*
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>>108558459
Oh my god they are actually taking the bioweapon thing real lmaoooo
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>>108558459
I don't care about their made up stats.
I only care if I like the particular vibe a model has.
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>>108558459
>literally a higher number than Opus when higher = better
Meta won.
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>>108558459
so can't i just swipe 50 times? why is a 98% refusal rate meant to be impressive
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>>108554599
>Really? Like, a one time only payment?
What the other anon said, with the caveat that free models become limited without warning. You might get rate limited to a request a minute, or they might become very, very slow during busy times.
But they're free until they remove them. They train on your convos too
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>>108558246
>Muse Spark is available today at meta.ai and the Meta AI app. We’re opening a private API preview to select users.
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>>108558595
just checked my keys, i have it
logs soon
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>>108558595
Meta deleted all smut from the dataset
It's fucking useless
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At least it beat the chink models.
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>>108558786
By one point?
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>Proprietary
Slop
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>>108558683
no cap? frfr? when?
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>>108558786
what's the point of having 498578239423 models

For us coomers we sometimes get different flavors of coom, but for everyone else, it only makes sense to use the absolute best ones
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>>108558786
>the best chink model doesnt even beat sonnet
xijinpingsisters...
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This is one of the worst graphs I've seen in my life.
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>>108557914
No one can use their mythical mythos and the consensus is "Dario is trying to IPO before Sam does"
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>>108558816
Historical preservation. You can then plot over time the point where AGI happened.
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>>108558878
My models are too strong for you, traveler.
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>>108558786
This would have been an amazing release 6 months ago. But the industry moves so fast, this is a trite release. Maybe it’s best for Meta to sell their superintelligence division. Zuck just has fomo, he really has no vision for this.
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Even though Claude has something the other models lack to capture, I've lost all faith in Anthropic for our use case. The last decent model from them was 3.7, everything after that is just degradation after degradation, which is such a shame.
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>>108557914
From the text examples I've seen in anthropic's system card, it writes like the most insufferable pretentious faggot i've ever seen.

But ofc who knows, it might actually be good with a decent preset. Nevertheless, I wonder if models are getting too smart to jailbreak
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>>108558899
Nigger, you just copy pasted a comment from hacker news.
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It makes 0 sense to have 2 separated generals
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>>108558925
>The last decent model from them was 3.7,
Opus 4, 4.1, 4.5 and even 4.6 are infinitely better, you're just a promptlet
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>>108558925
Jared Kaplan mentioned 2 years ago they planned on giving away the weights for haiku. Would have been nice but all the chink models mog Haiku nowadays. Gemma 4 is practically perfect even at 31B 16bit.
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>>108558943
Have you seen the catalog? Literal screenshots from reddit and twitter.
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>>>>108555168
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108544615/#q108555168_1
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>>108558967
At least those don't pretend it's your own writing.
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>>108558952
>Opus 4
The fact that you think that model was good tells me alot already. I'd understand if you said 4.1 or even 4.5, as they were actual decent upgrades, but they were upgrade to an already positivity and assistant slopped base model.
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>>108558850
>bits per byte
What the fuck does this mean?
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>>108556503
Nope, go back to your metzitzah b'pehs.
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obsessed and mentally ill.
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>>108559012
Yep. You're a low IQ promptlet.
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>>108558801
Wang, that's right THE Wang, said they'll open source. Although it does look grim, why would they double down on safetyslopping when everybody else is quietly relaxing
>we conducted extensive safety evaluations before deployment, both before and after applying mitigations
>we found muse spark demonstrated strong refusal behavior
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>>108557257
It's not even decent trolling, since slurping on jewcock like he's doing is the opposite of 4chan. He's like the aspie trying to look cool in class but everyone is just rolling their eyes at his constant failing.
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>>108559056
>quietly relaxing
In what world?
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>>108559056
Nigga doesn't even know how to use capital letters. Opinion discarded.
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Dario is secretly using Mythos rn to goon to the most terrifyingly depraved shit in existence. He even looks like a coomer
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>>108559056
Also, nobody fucking writes "open-source" unless they're a reptilian skinwalker.
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God imagine getting that mythussy....
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WHAT IS THAT MAN DOING TO HIS BALLS???
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>>108559066
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/MVXIMVM%20TRVKLEAR%20TRVTHBOMBA/
Jesus christ.
>deleted
>deleted
>deleted

Janny how have the mods not accepted the permaban yet.
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>>108559115
By threatening the model with testicular torsion, we've achieved 10x efficiency!
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>>108559126
tiny inoffensive bubble-wrap pop
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>>108558280
>>108558295
>>108558246
>>108558424
>>108558444
>>108558595
>>108558627
>>108558683
>>108558806
This mean nothing if it don't have Opus' soul while writing and being able to stay in character and be true to the character
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>>108559157
Because Opus is better duh
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>>108559115
OUCH
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>>108559056
>we found muse spark demonstrated strong refusal behavior
You left out "across high-risk domains such as biological and chemical weapons".
Do you get paid to spread FUD?
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>>108556503
TVCTICAL TRVTHDROGEN STRVKE
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>>108559180
All meta models fucking suck.
It's not even a question at this point.
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I use and enjoy Opus btw
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You don't even have Llama
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>>108559126
This is quite possibly the most pathetic thing I've seen and I've seen namefags post blacked porn out of sissy rage.
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>>108559142
Guess that one whip twitterfag was onto something after all
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>>108559192
No one working on Llama worked on this model, you never used it, and you never saw an output. Go manipulate people somewhere else.
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>>108559056
Scale GPT-4. Good times
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>>108559228
You are hoping for a miracle that won't come. Learn to detect patterns, retard.
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>>108559225
and?
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>They took Gemini 3.1 pro off lmarena too
these fucking bastards
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>>108559262
Worthless model
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>>108559262
is there any point to using lmarena at all?
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>>108559273
Is there any point to using anything that isn't opus?
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>>108559278
Yea better quality.
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>>108559284
KEEEK
>Inb4 cope post
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>>108559237
Nah, kill yourself. People will build their own opinions when they use it. They don't need people like you preemptively trying to shape their opinions. Get out of the thread.
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>>108559284
Opus is the best model. Everything else is a cope.
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>>108559299
You can tell this anon is based because he uses what he enjoys over meaningless opinions of slop eaters.
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>>108559299
Every single llama model has been shit. There's 0 chances of the new one not being shit. It's simple math, little guy.
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Only based people use opus
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>>108559325
Ill bite.
Where are all of the Opus 4 logs?
Oh thats right, unposted because the Opus sloppers have completely given up because other models easily mog anything opus could create, and they fear the judgement by other anons in knowing Opus isnt as good as it used to be.
Also youre trolling >108559347, but thats a different issue.
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>>108559356
Damn
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anything past Opus 4.1 is cucked and the trend will likely continue. Do with that what you will.
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>>108559356
>Where are all of the Opus 4 logs?
You don't deserve them. It's truly just that simple.
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>>108559356
What's the guy even trying to accomplish? What's his end goal? For Dario to spurt in his mouth? Nothing he's saying is even accomplishing anything.
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>>108559390
While this is true, Opus 4.6 is still better than any other non-anthropic model.
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>>108559390
Not even mentioning the originator of the slop, Opus 4.
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>>108559422
Opus 4 is even more obscene and unhinged than 4.1
The problem here is that you are a promptlet.
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>>108559397
I couldnt have possibly asked for a better reply to laugh at.

>>108559406
To troll until enough of us report him to get banned.
Literally nothing else, you must understand he is from the sharty, happiness only comes from the suffering of others.
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>>108559441
You never proved that I am from whatever website you think I am.
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>>108559429
>Measures a models capabilities by obscenity
Oh forgive me, I didn't know I was in the presence of a retard
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>>108559482
Oh well you see, adults enjoy obscene things. And obscenity is something every single non-opus model can't handle. You would know of you weren't underage.
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>>108559501
Sounds like a promplet issue to me.
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>>108558459
wtf? I can bioweapon with Kimi?
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>>108559554
>just tolerate the shit spatial awareness of the non-opus models bruvh
No. If you enjoy reading garbage that's on you.
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>>108559572
kimi teaches how to make napalm and agent orange at home
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>>108559180
More text means lower chance anyone would read it. Although I do believe refusals are refusals and don't hold my breath for how uncensored it might be if we ever get to play with it, this wasn't for FUD.
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>>108558459
>reach 99.9%
>potential terrorist just swipes 1000 times
lol? what the fuck are they trying to achieve here
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>>108559632
>More text means lower chance anyone would read it.
But this entire hobby/pasttime/whatever the fuck you wanna call it revolves around reading.
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>>108559056
>THE Wang
it's scale bro !
feeder of old locusts
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>>108559708
Technically yes. In practice, I find it better to err on the side of caution. And moreover, relatively succinct logs are better in 75% cases, ergo extrapolating from that -- my approach.
My own brain is fried enough I skip stuff sometimes, and when all llms inevitably fall into the same patterns skipping and skimming when reading became habitual long ago.
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Can someone tell me truthfully to why there are still people shilling models that don't get anywhere near Opus in how it act while RPing
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>in
>act
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>>108559900
why would i use a "better" model that's hard to come by when i could stay content with mediocrity and never have to worry about losing access
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How is Gemma for lewds? What's the concensus here? I've only tried it a little bit but it seems to be pretty uncensored and the prose looks very similar to Gemini, which is a bonus compared to how dry Deepseek has gotten. I'm trying out a pretty hardcore loli scenario and it hasn't given me any denials so far.
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>>108558945
Really? I think of it the same way we have separate generals for different operating systems.
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>>108559900
108559900
>Can someone tell me truthfully to why there are still people shilling things that I don't prefer when things that I prefer exist
Idk anon, you tell me
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>>108557861
It's a rise file type.
This should work for st but it won't have the embedded images
https://litter.catbox.moe/3ql5jm.png
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>>108559441
He's definitely emblematic of the schizos that seem to have been left behind after the sharty. And they're on every board sadly.
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>>108559976
>pretty uncensored
>similar to Gemini
Both true but there's probably less than a dozen of anons here who tried it counting me and you.
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>>108560063
rise>risu
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>>108559976
what do you mean deepseek became dry
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>>108560222
it isn't wet anymore
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>>108559900
Because they refuse to get a job.
Getting opus isn't some overcomplicated summoning ritual as most retards in this thread believe
It's just about getting a fucking job and paying to anthropic.
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>giving goythropic money
Lmao
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Yes, adults pay for stuff they like. You will learn once you grow up.
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>"Yes I love pizza. No, I would never pay for it. Instead I sit all day next to the dumpster that is right next to the pizza store, and wait for people to throw their leftovers into the dumpster. Then I scrape the tablescraps and eat them. Sometimes there's cockroaches and dirt on them but it's a lot better than getting a job and paying for warm pizza"
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>paying for porn
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i click a button and get a file with keys in it
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>>108560369
He's paying for pizza.
Keep up
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>i click a button and get a file with revoked keys in it
fify
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>>108560381
i have 1771 valid keys out of 297792 total
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>>108560375
Where's the ">food analogy" guy when you need him?
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>>108560392
Each one has less than 5 dollars in credits and you know it, cuckie
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>>108560407
Busy eating.
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>our local sharteen troll is larping as a paypig again
rofl kek the absolute state of this pathetic general
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>>108559976
who knows
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>>108560375
based
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>>108555045
BVLT 4 THE DARKEST JUICIEST BBC
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>every post I don't like is written by the same person who, additionally, comes from an oddly specific website I also happen to not like.
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>>108560681
what exactly makes a character built for it? the fact that they are white or that they share tropes shy guys would find alluring like tomboys, tall girls or slutty?
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>>108559976
I like it more than current Gemini
Feels like it's in between 2.5 and 3(.1)
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>>108559976
way better than 3.1, I can tell you that
why did they deprecate 3.0, bros...
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>>108560063
can you share this again?
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>>108561059
google hates us
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>>108558786
Is it any good in real stuff?
I feel like everyone learned how to overfit on specific benchmarks.
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>>108561308
No.
This guy tests LLMs and from all big models he tested the Meta's model performed worst, it's not even close to Opus 4.6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfxRAdmxjOo
This benchmark meme must be abolished.
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>>108561506
Surprise surprise, Meta is shit.
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>>108561506
Oh boy, would you look at that.
/aicg/ told me that this model would be better than Opus
/aicg/ told me to turn off my pattern detecting and believe that despite Meta's trajectory of releasing pure garbage this model would, miraculously, be as good or better than Opus
It's almost as if /aicg/ is always in the wrong side of history
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>>108561506
Llamabros.... Not like this...
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>>108561583
>Google to anthropic
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>>108561506
What with Meta and going all out on overfitting?
They did the same shit last time. At least other big labs avoid it somewhat.
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>>108561506
Imagine performing worse than grok
Where's the fat fuck who was saying that Meta's new shit would be good?
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>>108561506
Imagine being this faggot right now: >>108559228
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>>108561640
that guy is 100% right tho
No one who worked on Llama worked on spark, thats just how corporate structures work.
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>>108561506
Sure there wasn't anyone here actually believing that llama would be good, right?
Oh wait, nevermind, this little guy was: >>108559228 >>108559180
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>>108561675
He said that in a pathetic attempt to defend llama
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Hi guys I haven't been around for weeks
Is the new llama model any good? I heard it would be better than opus and Gemini combined
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>>108561689
>No one working on Llama worked on this model, you never used it, and you never saw an output.
????
Hes right though, and thats not even a defensive statement.
Team members no longer share work projects as corporate structures have changed, nobody has used spark, and nobody has seen an output.
Are you just mad or retarded?
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>>108561714
My guess is mad.
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>>108561703
Who has said this?
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>>108559976
Gemma knows practically every niche NSFW concept I've thrown at it. Even if it's maybe not native to its dataset it figures it out with reasoning. Also slightly unrelated but it's probably the best local model I've tested for adventures since it treats the rules you've laid down, character inventory, skills, quirks, and so on as gospel that it will maintain throughout the course of your session.
The only downside to me that I find it a bit dry compared to some smaller NSFW oriented finetunes. Probably a byproduct of its assistant-first intentions is that you need to really coach it to be more prose oriented and slow down, otherwise it gives you exactly what you demand with little room for left-of-field surprises. And I like surprises.
I'll probably have to craft ERP specific System Prompts for it.
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>>108561806
does it know how garlic and onion farts smell?
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>>108561714
The model turned out to be shit just as I predicted, I am always right and you're always wrong.
Consider projecting less next time
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>>108561819
proof?
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>>108561811
I'm afraid you're going to need a quantum supercomputer for that equation.
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>>108561827
Don't bother, he's retarded. you must understand, he's underage and cannot make posts up himself, he needs a trolling guide, otherwise he just gets ignored.>>108561827
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question, what models are capable of doing slurred speech? You know how in doujins and hentai characters slur or say words all funny? I haven't had any success for that
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>>108561848
DeepSeek R1 and R1-0528, V3 0324 too I think
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>>108561848
Deepseek or GLM, possibly grok.

though you need to specify and instruct the model that the character is slurring.
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>>108561848
DS indeed, without prompting for it even
more intelligent models rarely if never, predict other tokens than regular words
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>>108561506
Just tested it.
It performs as good as gemini 2.5 and gpt4.5.
Benchmarks truly mean nothing. These labs just overfit and benchmaxx.
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>>108561914
benchmaxxing in the big 2026?
what is this 2024 again?
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>>108561914
>Just tested it.
>coding
Uhm... Chatbots?
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>>108561914
okay but how good is it at sucking cock?
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>>108561961
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>>108562001
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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I will donate my organs for mythos access
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>>108562001
>and not for lack of enthusiasm
kek, cute
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gentleman, I need your best cunny card pwease
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>>108561827
>proof?
The model is shit
>>108561846
The model is shit, I won.
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>>108562001
Now paste a character card and/or a jailbreak. Maybe even this one: >>108556460
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>>108562104
proof?
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>>108561854
>>108561856
>>108561875
really?? I've been using deepseek and it doesn't, at most it will spit a onomatopoeia here and there
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How tf do you get Opus 4.6 to just shut up. I want it to do 2-3 lines for a response and it's consistently doing, like 20 no matter what I tell it to do
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>>108562132
<OOC: Stop writing so much >:(>
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>>108562132
Never mind I figured it out. I just told it to keep it a specific number at the end of the preset. So I use {{random::1::2::3}} and it works
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>>108562116
The model is excrement, I stand victorious.
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>>108562132
Low IQ apes can't read more than 3 lines.
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Another day.
Another model that's shit compared to opus.
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>>108559142
fucking kek
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>>108562162
>>108562171
>>108562192
Proof?
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>>108562139
this actually should work, slopus loves writing more than what you asked for.
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>>108562192
see >>108562192
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>>108562139
Not even a please? :/
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>>108562213
read >>108562390
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>>108562001
>and not for lack of enthusiasm
SOVL.
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did they remove gemini 3.1 from lmarena?
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>try doubao-sneed-2-0-pro-260215 on a whim
>it's actually pretty decent
Creative, uncensored, and it follows instructions like a slave (good).
I'm surprised none of you anons talked about it, even checked the archives and people seems to only be interested in the video generation. I haven't played with it a lot, so I'm sure it has some horrifying defects. I've noticed some issues with repetitions.
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>>108562653
Logs?
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>>108562705
No logs. It's not like it's exceptional. It's functional, it sort of does what you tell it to do.
Kinda remind me of Gemini 2.5.
Also seems to benefit from an heavier preset.
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>>108562734
>its not x, its y
Even (You) are slop
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>>108562773
AIEEEEEE THE LLMS ARE INFILTRATING /aicg/
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>>108562905
Yeah, and honestly? That's brave
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>>108562913
The ball is in your court, anons.
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You know I don't think this source is legit for some reason
3 days btw.
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>>108563028
anons talked about it in the beginning of this thread that it's fake
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>>108563028
You know, I'm not picky. Claude is Claude. Even if it's not, but... it's nice to believe.
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>>108562905
no modern llma can generate output with this kind of stylistics because of its tokenizer of babel... like, is this impossible for them clanker to touppercase("ai" + "e" *5), tech bros?
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>>108563064
I agree. Claude is good. The others are meh.
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>>108563077
Well, Gemini isn't bad too.
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>>108563082
Opus is better.
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>>108563088
But it's Deepseek wearing a mask that says 'Opus' on it.
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>>108563126
read >>108563088
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>>108563088
gigvtrvke
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>>108563088
I know. I was insinuating that if Opus weren't available, I'd use Gemini.
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>>108563088
/thread
/board
/chan
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>>108563088
Not when Mythos exists.
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>>108563392
>every progressive claude model has gotten smarter and had worse writing
>the latest most smarterest claude model yet
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>>108563414
maybe i'm just being too negative but if the models are getting worse at writing then they aren't getting smarter, they're getting worse.
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>"hehe, hey opus, generate a hikikomori otaku loser girl for my next story, make her really pathetic and unhealthy"
>gives me back someone whose behaviors overlap with mine by at least 70%
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>>108563548
are you just oblivious to your own lifestyle?
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>>108554302
anons, is there a rentry for good SillyTavern settings to make the LLM generate good prompts for comfyui, so it can generate roleplay-style images and summaries of the story? what's the best sort of image model for that? ponyXL clearly can't respond to the LLM's prose-like prompts.
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Where are all the bot talks at? Everyone has access to Opus and we killed all the locusts. Why is it just console wars for models again when Opus is clearly the best?
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>>108563708
Reposting, anyone do anything similar?
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>>108563731
Anon the hobby is dead because the locusts aka the people who make up 95% of the thread don't have Opus
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>>108563731
>Everyone has access to Opus
HAHAHA
>>
anyone else here MYTHOSMAXXING?
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>>108563731
>Where are all the bot talks at?
Take your off topic trash back to /vg/, nigger. You wanted this thread to be shit, now youre mad when you have it?
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>>108563765
Thirdie locust don't count
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>>108563906
Why are you posting CP...
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desu



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