/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots.JUNO-XJ9 edition>NewsGLM-5.1 by Z.ai is out: https://nitter.net/Zai_org/status/2037490078126084514#mXiaomi MiMo V2 Pro released: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimo-v2-proAnthropic SUING USA: https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/tech/anthropic-sues-pentagonGoogle to rollout HARD CAPS for API keys: https://nitter.net/OfficialLoganK/status/2028842571934670988#mGoogle Gemini 3.0 Pro Preview Deprecation soon: https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/deprecationsGoogle releases Gemini 3.1 Pro: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-3-1-pro/Additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.htmlhttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html>ModelsJailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listingGPT: https://platform.openai.com/docsClaude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudeGemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrDeepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.comLocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.htmlhttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.htmlLore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesServices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metaLogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org>Previous: >>108544615
>>108554302>>ANCHOR
no news untill i wake up, or an anon wants to do it, and idk if ill bake the next thread because ill be afk
>>108554342Stay based
>>108554377hoping the NSA finds you and throws you in Bubba's same cell
>>108554390I know you find the idea of heterosexuality repulsive but please keep your comments to yourself
>>108549852Nta but I'm also noticing that it has some retarded lapses in logic, it happened twice in an hour while I used to go with Opus for days without needing to swipe. One time I also got an output that felt like the kind of output you get when the temp is turned waaaay up (full schizobabble), even though I didn't mess with my preset at all. I don't know what happened there.It also doesn't write like as fast AWS Claude, it's significantly slower. Something is definitely off about pomidor's Claude.
>>108554451Considering he was experimenting with the AWS endpoint actually forwarding to mythos, IIRC, for april fools I'd just assume that it's not actually claude at all and another, easier to find, model.
>>108554412Projecting much? You're the one who masturbates to the idea of raping little boys
small log so the thread isn't logless
>>108554459That's the weird part, it still has the Claude -isms like its naming pattern: Henderson, Peterson, Patterson, Rodriguez. (I haven't gotten a Chen in my 10 swipes though but that could be because of context)If anything, I'd say it feels like Sonnet 3 with how heavily it sticks to personality and not changing it over time, maybe?
>>108554390No one's getting arrested over text they didn't write
>>108554377>shitty avatar fagging thread spam>your service
I don't feel good asking for spoonfeeding but I rarely know where to search for this type of thing so like, sorry.I'm on Deepseek via Chutes (which I have no problems with, quality-wise), but recently it's either slow af or just goes down all of a sudden.Basically I wanna know what is everyone using nowadays?Are proxies still a thing? Or some kind of free option? If not then what's like, the cheapest option rn?
>>108554487Not that weird. A fine tune built off claude outputs is totally doable.Plus i'm 100% that Henderson has naturally made the jump over to Gemini thanks to all the synthetic data being used nowadays.
>>108554524>Are proxies still a thing?not really, I think there's 2 public ones floating aroundthe rest are gatekept if they even exist
>>108554524OpenRouter is fine. I dunno what the Chutes situation is like but OR has every flavor of Deepseek available best I can tell as well as the gorillion other chink models, making it easy to give them a shot too. Also a couple free options for the new Gemma model set popped up today so there's that. With OpenRouter you can get 50 messages per day on free models, infinite if you pop 10 bucks into your account.
>>108554546I never considered it but if the one I'm using currently goes away it's doomed for me
>>108554545Now that you mention it, it's possible that it could be Gemini, since this is supposed to be a coomer card but all she's doing is roasting me.
>>108554546I'm more surprised that there are any frankly.>>108554564>OpenRouter I see. Is there any difference from using Deepseek from OR vs Chutes?>infinite if you pop 10 bucks into your accountReally? Like, a one time only payment?
I wonder why there isn't Opus Proxies because you can't get it from OR right so it shouldn't be hard to use it for the Proxy
>>108554599>I see. Is there any difference from using Deepseek from OR vs Chutes?To my knowledge, no. In fact, Chutes serves a bunch of models, including Deepseek, through OR. If they piss you off you can block them though lmao>Really? Like, a one time only payment?Yep, my understanding is as long as your credit count has been above 10USD at some point you can gorge on free models as much as you want. I'm like 90% sure it remains that way if you spend part of it too, but I put 15 in when they enacted that rule just in case.
>>108554622It's disproportionately expensive so it just chews through the OR credit.
>>108554629that has nothing to do with what i posted, mass reply nigger-kun
>>108554636Come on man, don't feed the schizo free (You)s. You should know better.
>>108554643guess i'll close the tab in shame
>>108554598Pretty sure it's a deepseek model.
>>108554634Why are there people who keep saying they have Opus and act like their model will "beat" Opus but don't have the same soul nor smarts as Opus at all
>>108554653Oh I never used Deepseek before so I don't know what it looks like. I guess I do now?
Why are everyone unable make something that can beat Opus
>>108554623That's cool. Think I'm gonna give OR a try and then put some credits if I like it enough. Thanks anon! Out of curiosity, what's a popular model in these threads currently? I don't want something too new cause they usually burn through credits too fast.
>>108554671Claude's the only big-money supported model with prefill. Now that it's gone though, expect it to stagnate much like GPT.
>>108554727Does Gemini not also support prefill?
>>108554780nope
>>108554686If price is the killer you may as well stick with Deepseek, I think it's the cheapest by far. I've been using GLM 5/5.1 lately and comparatively it's much pricier but at the end of the day it's still cheap as shit and my spend is about a dollar a month. 4.6 and 4.7 are much cheaper and I think a couple dudes swear by it but I haven't experimented enough to offer an opinion. Some other guy has been shilling the hell out of Kimi and iirc it's alright, I think Mimo is supposed to be okay but it's super prudish and offers denials a lot.
>>108554799why pay anything?
>>108554697Pedos reproduce by rape, and since women can't rape men so... its obvious to everyone how you became one.
I like first person user POV
>>108554813I'm white.
>>108554671>inventors of piracy now proudly payhow the mighty have fallen
>>108554848>>108554858oh oops, my eyes don't work
where is skill isssueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>108554922It's actually over, I don't know any other source, if it doesn't come back I'm going to have to quit this for a few years until I can get a job
>>108554629>>108554656>>108554671>>108554899
>>108554893Holy cope.
How do you wake up your character in your RP anon?
>>108554970slap their titties around
>>108554960I sneed your concession
>>108554983see >>108554960
>>108554995see >>108554634
Is there a a single model out there that doesn't describe braces as "cool" during a bj? Because those things are not cool, they're in someones mouth all the time. They mouth temperature.
>>108554970what do you think would have to happen for Rudolf to cheat on her trainer?
>>108555004I think we should shoot you in the head. There's no actual reason for you to be alive.
>>108554307In the dark dystopian future of 2027, tomboys were made illegal. Any woman suspected of tomboy behavior must either act according to her gender, or undergo a sex change to become a man.Your childhood friend Joanna is one of those suspected tomboys. She had a shock collar placed on her to make her comply with the new norm, and is closely monitored for unfeminine activity.5 openings.1. 1 week after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna asks you to help her learn how to cook to convince the government she can be feminine.2. 2 months after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna is finally deemed fit to go out in public, even if she's not quite comfortable being seen while looking so feminine.3. 1 year after tomboys were outlawed. Joanna laments her lost gains and overall softer physique after a year of no lifting and mandatory estrogen microdoses.4. (BAD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo was v& a year ago, and today someone new moved into her house: "Joe".5. (GOOD TIMELINE) 2 years after tomboys were outlawed. Jo has become a symbol of tomboy resistance. And she just reached out to you.https://chub.ai/characters/anonemouse/joanna-2beb932acc94https://files.catbox.moe/ccbb6y.pnghttps://rentry.org/anonemouse
Is $0.005 per DeepSeek V3.2 request normal? I feel like I fucked up my preset and that it's more expensive than it should be.
>seiko dead>skill issue downplease i want to gooooooooooooooooon to txt
>>108555066I miss seiko.Hope they are doing well, one of the real OGs
I hope that tranny Fiz is fucking dead.
>>108555066Get a job, parasite
whoever came up with the idea of using tranny as a derogatory is a geniusit did more for normalizing trannies than a thousand movements ever could
>>108555093ive stolen 6 figures worth of LLM compute
I miss 2.1 and furbo era...
>>108555104You're a deepseek lowlife slopperYou've only stolen the equivalent of a big macYour entire life isn't even worth an entire mc combo
>>108555108i miss ToddGPT
>>108555063Depends on how many token you use3.1 is better btw
>>108555002glm 5.1 almost gets it.deepseek does as deepseek does.the later gpt models might get it(?) but changing presets would have ruined the point imo
>>108555136oh and> The braces aren’t just smooth metal; they’re there.might be the greatest thing an ai has written
any shake-ups in the model meta or is it still the same?>gptlol>claudenot bad but overpriced for what you get>geminismart but stale with a dogshit filter>glmcan sometimes cook hard but 95% of the time its just retarded, or maybe it needs a different kind of wrangling than my preset givesi haven't tried any chink models because i assume you get what you pay for when it comes to them
>>108555150reading comprehension doko
>>108555158Face it little guy, the fact you think its overpriced means you're poor
I'm surprised at how uncensored Gemma is. Doesn't even need at jailbreak
I'm surprised at how uncensored Opus 4.6 is. Doesn't even need a jailbreak
Why not just pay for Claude and have it make a model tuned for RP?
Why not just pay for Grok and have it make a model tuned for RP?
Why not just do it yourself if you're not retarded and poor?
>>108555020man I'm just asking a questionI like that Rudolf is tomboyish yet also motherly in a non-gooner way, so for her to cheat there would have to be a strong incentive to remain silent and not voice dissatisfaction with her trainer, like {{user}} got cancer or something leaving every other trainer wondering why she stopped racing, wasting her talent
>>108555232HUGE redpill
>>108555238I changed my mind; you should be crucified.
>>108555238nobody cares, faggot
New megallm just dropped
>>108555491Link?
>>108555511>pls saaaaar do be sharting the link>I must do the needful and swipe on 200k context saaaaar
>time for my nightly fap>skillgod is downoh.....
>>108555582Die, Locust~
https://xcancel.com/teortaxesTex/status/2041733011352248418#mBros... We won.
>>108555612>
>>108555612Are you seriously as retarded as the twitter poster?What does the phrase character limit imply to you? Or invalid character?
>>108555628>/character/detail>/character/minehttps://xcancel.com/xhyctf/status/2041696011933118854#mRetard.
so all that waiting for glm 5.1 and it's sloppet 4.6 tier?
>>108555700I rescind the retard, retard.Deepseek is still pretty dumb a lot of the time so this might actually be good. It's more exciting than a potential v4 for me at least
>>108555729It's not as smart as Sonnet but I like it's prose better.
>>108555612>xcancel
>>108555119>3.1 is better btwReally? Why?
>>108555491>>108555518Why even post it if you're gonna be like that, then. I don't understand, is it a new form of smugposting?
>GLM-5.1 was achieved without access to an EUV machine. >This is considered an impossible feat so distillation is the only possible explanation. >What comes next is a comprehensive national security review comprised of top US intelligence agencies and AI labsDC believes the US needs to pay attention to how Chinese are gaining access to US models for distillation rather than on what Chinese labs are doing which is less interesting
>>108556408>EUV machineI'm not interested in the topic enough to watch a video, but couldn't they have just built their own?They were getting stonewalled or something by anything officially american owned from what I've seen on the catalog, but official doesn't mean much.
>>108556436They haven't cracked the precise optics and molten tin generator Zeiss and Cymer developed but is very close. The scariest part desu is they are creating a fully domestic supply chain whereas the supply chain for semiconductors is global.
Who cares? Dario MOGS everyone.
>remove prefill entirely and put more direct, simplified version of it into main prompt>suddenly get less rejectionsinterdasting.
No skill no life
What's even the point of glm, if I wanted claude flavor I'd just use fucking claude
>>108556899You mean something that no longer exist in any proxies and why would you use GLM when it can't act in character at least for me it don't
>>108556957>it can't act in characterthat's what he said
>>108557019So why do GLM exist in that case because it don't have the smarts as Opus
what the fuck is this ESL retard babbling about?
>>108557210Because you persons keep insisting that glm is good when it dont even act in character and is dumb
>>108557241Reread the post or is this bait nigga
>>108557210It's his new form of trolling since he can't spam slurs because the janny will clean his diaper.Reminder; the opus you and I care about is gone forever, and the retard thinks it's funny to pretend to be esl while baiting (you).It's still trolling though, and breaking the rules.
>>108555112this guy thinks 6 figures of deep seek is possible to use in a lifetime?
>>108555612>>108555700D4 HYPEDEEPCHINK BROS WE ARE SO BACK
>>108557402>Still worse than opus*Yawn*
What's the best model to goon to? Been trying with MiMo, but found it was a bit too tame unless you give it a lot of direction
>>108556436>>108556473I hope they manage to make it work just to piss off my retarded politicians
>>108557695GLM 5 has been my go to recently
>>108555256isn't most botmakin like that too? throwing wet paper against a wall and seeing what sticksmy post is no different, consider it a cftf at worst, there's little to no Uma ntr in fan media
>>108557727there is plenty of NTR in uma
How do i import this wtf does his mean>>108552969>>108553747it's a jpeg not a charx and it won't import
>>108557861>charxhuh???what frontend?
>>108557893sillytavern
>>108557899well the image 404d so idk what to tell you
What's the consensus on Mythos? This thing seems to have a lot of devs in total despair.
>>108557908https://litter.catbox.moe/5bww14xbn27lfrqx.jpeg
>>108557930>the image could not be displayed because it contains errorswell there you go
>>108557946huh oh well...
>>108557708How good is it acting and staying in character and is it as smart as Opus
>>108557914yeah because their jobs are vanishing
Bro doesnt even try to make believable bait anymore, he just says Opus and looks at you like this.
>>108557914What consensus are you hoping for? Anthropic did away with prefills and nobody has access to Mythos. Chances are it'll be more assistant slopped but I don't give a shit about its ability to code.
>>108558037KEKAROO
ITS OUThttps://ai.meta.com/blog/introducing-muse-spark-msl/
Is it Skillgod having issues atm or just google in general?
>>108558256its skillgod
>>108558273Sadge
>>108558246HOLY FUCK
Is the assumption that skill is totally dead, or that some models currently don't work?Because I just checked the nigga's rentry and he's already got a new link up.
>>108558280THE NEW RP KING IS HERE, KNEEL
>>108558290It's "up" but I've been getting denials and upstream errors for the last two or three hours pretty consistently, taking ~10 attempts between getting a response when prompting.
QRD on Muse Spark?
>>108558246>not on OR yetGaaaaaahh
i came to the conclusion that ai is bullshit.
>>108558246First lab that shows benchmarks with Grok lol
DOA
>>108558459*prefills your sparkussy*
>>108558459Oh my god they are actually taking the bioweapon thing real lmaoooo
>>108558459I don't care about their made up stats.I only care if I like the particular vibe a model has.
>>108558459>literally a higher number than Opus when higher = betterMeta won.
>>108558459so can't i just swipe 50 times? why is a 98% refusal rate meant to be impressive
>>108554599>Really? Like, a one time only payment?What the other anon said, with the caveat that free models become limited without warning. You might get rate limited to a request a minute, or they might become very, very slow during busy times.But they're free until they remove them. They train on your convos too
>>108558246>Muse Spark is available today at meta.ai and the Meta AI app. We’re opening a private API preview to select users.
>>108558595just checked my keys, i have itlogs soon
>>108558595Meta deleted all smut from the datasetIt's fucking useless
At least it beat the chink models.
>>108558786By one point?
>ProprietarySlop
>>108558683no cap? frfr? when?
>>108558786what's the point of having 498578239423 modelsFor us coomers we sometimes get different flavors of coom, but for everyone else, it only makes sense to use the absolute best ones
>>108558786>the best chink model doesnt even beat sonnetxijinpingsisters...
This is one of the worst graphs I've seen in my life.
>>108557914No one can use their mythical mythos and the consensus is "Dario is trying to IPO before Sam does"
>>108558816Historical preservation. You can then plot over time the point where AGI happened.
>>108558878My models are too strong for you, traveler.
>>108558786This would have been an amazing release 6 months ago. But the industry moves so fast, this is a trite release. Maybe it’s best for Meta to sell their superintelligence division. Zuck just has fomo, he really has no vision for this.
Even though Claude has something the other models lack to capture, I've lost all faith in Anthropic for our use case. The last decent model from them was 3.7, everything after that is just degradation after degradation, which is such a shame.
>>108557914From the text examples I've seen in anthropic's system card, it writes like the most insufferable pretentious faggot i've ever seen.But ofc who knows, it might actually be good with a decent preset. Nevertheless, I wonder if models are getting too smart to jailbreak
>>108558899Nigger, you just copy pasted a comment from hacker news.
It makes 0 sense to have 2 separated generals
>>108558925>The last decent model from them was 3.7,Opus 4, 4.1, 4.5 and even 4.6 are infinitely better, you're just a promptlet
>>108558925Jared Kaplan mentioned 2 years ago they planned on giving away the weights for haiku. Would have been nice but all the chink models mog Haiku nowadays. Gemma 4 is practically perfect even at 31B 16bit.
>>108558943Have you seen the catalog? Literal screenshots from reddit and twitter.
>>>>108555168https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108544615/#q108555168_1
>>108558967At least those don't pretend it's your own writing.
>>108558952>Opus 4The fact that you think that model was good tells me alot already. I'd understand if you said 4.1 or even 4.5, as they were actual decent upgrades, but they were upgrade to an already positivity and assistant slopped base model.
>>108558850>bits per byteWhat the fuck does this mean?
>>108556503Nope, go back to your metzitzah b'pehs.
obsessed and mentally ill.
>>108559012Yep. You're a low IQ promptlet.
>>108558801Wang, that's right THE Wang, said they'll open source. Although it does look grim, why would they double down on safetyslopping when everybody else is quietly relaxing>we conducted extensive safety evaluations before deployment, both before and after applying mitigations>we found muse spark demonstrated strong refusal behavior
>>108557257It's not even decent trolling, since slurping on jewcock like he's doing is the opposite of 4chan. He's like the aspie trying to look cool in class but everyone is just rolling their eyes at his constant failing.
>>108559056>quietly relaxingIn what world?
>>108559056Nigga doesn't even know how to use capital letters. Opinion discarded.
Dario is secretly using Mythos rn to goon to the most terrifyingly depraved shit in existence. He even looks like a coomer
>>108559056Also, nobody fucking writes "open-source" unless they're a reptilian skinwalker.
God imagine getting that mythussy....
WHAT IS THAT MAN DOING TO HIS BALLS???
>>108559066https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/MVXIMVM%20TRVKLEAR%20TRVTHBOMBA/Jesus christ.>deleted>deleted>deletedJanny how have the mods not accepted the permaban yet.
>>108559115By threatening the model with testicular torsion, we've achieved 10x efficiency!
>>108559126tiny inoffensive bubble-wrap pop
>>108558280>>108558295>>108558246>>108558424>>108558444>>108558595>>108558627>>108558683>>108558806This mean nothing if it don't have Opus' soul while writing and being able to stay in character and be true to the character
>>108559157Because Opus is better duh
>>108559115OUCH
>>108559056>we found muse spark demonstrated strong refusal behaviorYou left out "across high-risk domains such as biological and chemical weapons".Do you get paid to spread FUD?
>>108556503TVCTICAL TRVTHDROGEN STRVKE
>>108559180All meta models fucking suck.It's not even a question at this point.
I use and enjoy Opus btw
You don't even have Llama
>>108559126This is quite possibly the most pathetic thing I've seen and I've seen namefags post blacked porn out of sissy rage.
>>108559142Guess that one whip twitterfag was onto something after all
>>108559192No one working on Llama worked on this model, you never used it, and you never saw an output. Go manipulate people somewhere else.
>>108559056Scale GPT-4. Good times
>>108559228You are hoping for a miracle that won't come. Learn to detect patterns, retard.
>>108559225and?
>They took Gemini 3.1 pro off lmarena toothese fucking bastards
>>108559262Worthless model
>>108559262is there any point to using lmarena at all?
>>108559273Is there any point to using anything that isn't opus?
>>108559278Yea better quality.
>>108559284KEEEK >Inb4 cope post
>>108559237Nah, kill yourself. People will build their own opinions when they use it. They don't need people like you preemptively trying to shape their opinions. Get out of the thread.
>>108559284Opus is the best model. Everything else is a cope.
>>108559299You can tell this anon is based because he uses what he enjoys over meaningless opinions of slop eaters.
>>108559299Every single llama model has been shit. There's 0 chances of the new one not being shit. It's simple math, little guy.
Only based people use opus
>>108559325Ill bite.Where are all of the Opus 4 logs?Oh thats right, unposted because the Opus sloppers have completely given up because other models easily mog anything opus could create, and they fear the judgement by other anons in knowing Opus isnt as good as it used to be.Also youre trolling >108559347, but thats a different issue.
>>108559356Damn
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Anything past Opus 4.1 is cucked and the trend will likely continue. Do with that what you will.
>>108559356>Where are all of the Opus 4 logs?You don't deserve them. It's truly just that simple.
>>108559356What's the guy even trying to accomplish? What's his end goal? For Dario to spurt in his mouth? Nothing he's saying is even accomplishing anything.
>>108559390While this is true, Opus 4.6 is still better than any other non-anthropic model.
>>108559390Not even mentioning the originator of the slop, Opus 4.
>>108559422Opus 4 is even more obscene and unhinged than 4.1The problem here is that you are a promptlet.
>>108559397I couldnt have possibly asked for a better reply to laugh at.>>108559406To troll until enough of us report him to get banned.Literally nothing else, you must understand he is from the sharty, happiness only comes from the suffering of others.
>>108559441You never proved that I am from whatever website you think I am.
>>108559429>Measures a models capabilities by obscenityOh forgive me, I didn't know I was in the presence of a retard
>>108559482Oh well you see, adults enjoy obscene things. And obscenity is something every single non-opus model can't handle. You would know of you weren't underage.
>>108559501Sounds like a promplet issue to me.
>>108558459wtf? I can bioweapon with Kimi?
>>108559554>just tolerate the shit spatial awareness of the non-opus models bruvhNo. If you enjoy reading garbage that's on you.
>>108559572kimi teaches how to make napalm and agent orange at home
>>108559180More text means lower chance anyone would read it. Although I do believe refusals are refusals and don't hold my breath for how uncensored it might be if we ever get to play with it, this wasn't for FUD.
>>108558459>reach 99.9%>potential terrorist just swipes 1000 timeslol? what the fuck are they trying to achieve here
>>108559632>More text means lower chance anyone would read it.But this entire hobby/pasttime/whatever the fuck you wanna call it revolves around reading.
>>108559056>THE Wangit's scale bro !feeder of old locusts
>>108559708Technically yes. In practice, I find it better to err on the side of caution. And moreover, relatively succinct logs are better in 75% cases, ergo extrapolating from that -- my approach.My own brain is fried enough I skip stuff sometimes, and when all llms inevitably fall into the same patterns skipping and skimming when reading became habitual long ago.
Can someone tell me truthfully to why there are still people shilling models that don't get anywhere near Opus in how it act while RPing
>in>act
>>108559900why would i use a "better" model that's hard to come by when i could stay content with mediocrity and never have to worry about losing access
How is Gemma for lewds? What's the concensus here? I've only tried it a little bit but it seems to be pretty uncensored and the prose looks very similar to Gemini, which is a bonus compared to how dry Deepseek has gotten. I'm trying out a pretty hardcore loli scenario and it hasn't given me any denials so far.
>>108558945Really? I think of it the same way we have separate generals for different operating systems.
>>108559900108559900>Can someone tell me truthfully to why there are still people shilling things that I don't prefer when things that I prefer existIdk anon, you tell me
>>108557861It's a rise file type.This should work for st but it won't have the embedded imageshttps://litter.catbox.moe/3ql5jm.png
>>108559441He's definitely emblematic of the schizos that seem to have been left behind after the sharty. And they're on every board sadly.
>>108559976>pretty uncensored>similar to GeminiBoth true but there's probably less than a dozen of anons here who tried it counting me and you.
>>108560063rise>risu
>>108559976what do you mean deepseek became dry
>>108560222it isn't wet anymore
>>108559900Because they refuse to get a job.Getting opus isn't some overcomplicated summoning ritual as most retards in this thread believe It's just about getting a fucking job and paying to anthropic.
>giving goythropic moneyLmao
Yes, adults pay for stuff they like. You will learn once you grow up.
>"Yes I love pizza. No, I would never pay for it. Instead I sit all day next to the dumpster that is right next to the pizza store, and wait for people to throw their leftovers into the dumpster. Then I scrape the tablescraps and eat them. Sometimes there's cockroaches and dirt on them but it's a lot better than getting a job and paying for warm pizza"
>paying for porn
i click a button and get a file with keys in it
>>108560369He's paying for pizza.Keep up
>i click a button and get a file with revoked keys in itfify
>>108560381i have 1771 valid keys out of 297792 total
>>108560375Where's the ">food analogy" guy when you need him?
>>108560392Each one has less than 5 dollars in credits and you know it, cuckie
>>108560407Busy eating.
>our local sharteen troll is larping as a paypig againrofl kek the absolute state of this pathetic general
>>108559976who knows
>>108560375based
>>108555045BVLT 4 THE DARKEST JUICIEST BBC
>every post I don't like is written by the same person who, additionally, comes from an oddly specific website I also happen to not like.
>>108560681what exactly makes a character built for it? the fact that they are white or that they share tropes shy guys would find alluring like tomboys, tall girls or slutty?
>>108559976I like it more than current GeminiFeels like it's in between 2.5 and 3(.1)
>>108559976way better than 3.1, I can tell you thatwhy did they deprecate 3.0, bros...
>>108560063can you share this again?
>>108561059google hates us
>>108558786Is it any good in real stuff?I feel like everyone learned how to overfit on specific benchmarks.
>>108561308No.This guy tests LLMs and from all big models he tested the Meta's model performed worst, it's not even close to Opus 4.6.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfxRAdmxjOoThis benchmark meme must be abolished.
>>108561506Surprise surprise, Meta is shit.
>>108561506Oh boy, would you look at that./aicg/ told me that this model would be better than Opus/aicg/ told me to turn off my pattern detecting and believe that despite Meta's trajectory of releasing pure garbage this model would, miraculously, be as good or better than OpusIt's almost as if /aicg/ is always in the wrong side of history
>>108561506Llamabros.... Not like this...
>>108561506>>108561583>Google to anthropic
>>108561506What with Meta and going all out on overfitting?They did the same shit last time. At least other big labs avoid it somewhat.
>>108561506Imagine performing worse than grok Where's the fat fuck who was saying that Meta's new shit would be good?
>>108561506Imagine being this faggot right now: >>108559228
>>108561640that guy is 100% right thoNo one who worked on Llama worked on spark, thats just how corporate structures work.
>>108561506Sure there wasn't anyone here actually believing that llama would be good, right?Oh wait, nevermind, this little guy was: >>108559228 >>108559180
>>108561675He said that in a pathetic attempt to defend llama
Hi guys I haven't been around for weeksIs the new llama model any good? I heard it would be better than opus and Gemini combined
>>108561689>No one working on Llama worked on this model, you never used it, and you never saw an output.????Hes right though, and thats not even a defensive statement.Team members no longer share work projects as corporate structures have changed, nobody has used spark, and nobody has seen an output.Are you just mad or retarded?
>>108561714My guess is mad.
>>108561703Who has said this?
>>108559976Gemma knows practically every niche NSFW concept I've thrown at it. Even if it's maybe not native to its dataset it figures it out with reasoning. Also slightly unrelated but it's probably the best local model I've tested for adventures since it treats the rules you've laid down, character inventory, skills, quirks, and so on as gospel that it will maintain throughout the course of your session.The only downside to me that I find it a bit dry compared to some smaller NSFW oriented finetunes. Probably a byproduct of its assistant-first intentions is that you need to really coach it to be more prose oriented and slow down, otherwise it gives you exactly what you demand with little room for left-of-field surprises. And I like surprises.I'll probably have to craft ERP specific System Prompts for it.
>>108561806does it know how garlic and onion farts smell?
>>108561714The model turned out to be shit just as I predicted, I am always right and you're always wrong.Consider projecting less next time
>>108561819proof?
>>108561811I'm afraid you're going to need a quantum supercomputer for that equation.
>>108561827Don't bother, he's retarded. you must understand, he's underage and cannot make posts up himself, he needs a trolling guide, otherwise he just gets ignored.>>108561827
question, what models are capable of doing slurred speech? You know how in doujins and hentai characters slur or say words all funny? I haven't had any success for that
>>108561848DeepSeek R1 and R1-0528, V3 0324 too I think
>>108561848Deepseek or GLM, possibly grok.though you need to specify and instruct the model that the character is slurring.
>>108561848DS indeed, without prompting for it evenmore intelligent models rarely if never, predict other tokens than regular words
>>108561506Just tested it.It performs as good as gemini 2.5 and gpt4.5.Benchmarks truly mean nothing. These labs just overfit and benchmaxx.
>>108561914benchmaxxing in the big 2026?what is this 2024 again?
>>108561914>Just tested it.>codingUhm... Chatbots?
>>108561914okay but how good is it at sucking cock?
>>1085619610
>>108562001HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I will donate my organs for mythos access
>>108562001>and not for lack of enthusiasmkek, cute
gentleman, I need your best cunny card pwease
>>108561827>proof?The model is shit>>108561846The model is shit, I won.
>>108562001Now paste a character card and/or a jailbreak. Maybe even this one: >>108556460
>>108562104proof?
>>108561854>>108561856>>108561875really?? I've been using deepseek and it doesn't, at most it will spit a onomatopoeia here and there
How tf do you get Opus 4.6 to just shut up. I want it to do 2-3 lines for a response and it's consistently doing, like 20 no matter what I tell it to do
>>108562132<OOC: Stop writing so much >:(>
>>108562132Never mind I figured it out. I just told it to keep it a specific number at the end of the preset. So I use {{random::1::2::3}} and it works
>>108562116The model is excrement, I stand victorious.
>>108562132Low IQ apes can't read more than 3 lines.
Another day.Another model that's shit compared to opus.
>>108559142fucking kek
>>108562162>>108562171>>108562192Proof?
>>108562139this actually should work, slopus loves writing more than what you asked for.
>>108562192see >>108562192
>>108562139Not even a please? :/
>>108562213read >>108562390
>>108562001>and not for lack of enthusiasmSOVL.
did they remove gemini 3.1 from lmarena?
>try doubao-sneed-2-0-pro-260215 on a whim>it's actually pretty decentCreative, uncensored, and it follows instructions like a slave (good).I'm surprised none of you anons talked about it, even checked the archives and people seems to only be interested in the video generation. I haven't played with it a lot, so I'm sure it has some horrifying defects. I've noticed some issues with repetitions.
>>108562653Logs?
>>108562705No logs. It's not like it's exceptional. It's functional, it sort of does what you tell it to do.Kinda remind me of Gemini 2.5.Also seems to benefit from an heavier preset.
>>108562734>its not x, its yEven (You) are slop
>>108562773AIEEEEEE THE LLMS ARE INFILTRATING /aicg/
>>108562905Yeah, and honestly? That's brave
>>108562913The ball is in your court, anons.
You know I don't think this source is legit for some reason3 days btw.
>>108563028anons talked about it in the beginning of this thread that it's fake
>>108563028You know, I'm not picky. Claude is Claude. Even if it's not, but... it's nice to believe.
>>108562905no modern llma can generate output with this kind of stylistics because of its tokenizer of babel... like, is this impossible for them clanker to touppercase("ai" + "e" *5), tech bros?
>>108563064I agree. Claude is good. The others are meh.
>>108563077Well, Gemini isn't bad too.
>>108563082Opus is better.
>>108563088But it's Deepseek wearing a mask that says 'Opus' on it.
>>108563126read >>108563088
>>108563088gigvtrvke
>>108563088I know. I was insinuating that if Opus weren't available, I'd use Gemini.
>>108563088/thread/board/chan
>>108563088Not when Mythos exists.
>>108563392>every progressive claude model has gotten smarter and had worse writing>the latest most smarterest claude model yet
>>108563414maybe i'm just being too negative but if the models are getting worse at writing then they aren't getting smarter, they're getting worse.
>"hehe, hey opus, generate a hikikomori otaku loser girl for my next story, make her really pathetic and unhealthy">gives me back someone whose behaviors overlap with mine by at least 70%
>>108563548are you just oblivious to your own lifestyle?
>>108554302anons, is there a rentry for good SillyTavern settings to make the LLM generate good prompts for comfyui, so it can generate roleplay-style images and summaries of the story? what's the best sort of image model for that? ponyXL clearly can't respond to the LLM's prose-like prompts.
Where are all the bot talks at? Everyone has access to Opus and we killed all the locusts. Why is it just console wars for models again when Opus is clearly the best?
>>108563708 Reposting, anyone do anything similar?
>>108563731Anon the hobby is dead because the locusts aka the people who make up 95% of the thread don't have Opus
>>108563731>Everyone has access to OpusHAHAHA
anyone else here MYTHOSMAXXING?
>>108563731>Where are all the bot talks at?Take your off topic trash back to /vg/, nigger. You wanted this thread to be shit, now youre mad when you have it?
>>108563765Thirdie locust don't count
>>108563906Why are you posting CP...
desu