ENERGY GATHERING EDITIONThis year's Debian Project Leadership election has only ONE candidate and it's a Pajeeta (Sruthi Chandran):>She is inactive on the mailing lists, and her Salsa profile is private so we can't even see what her coding contributions are.>She's run for DPL 4 times before; lost each time>Her entire platform is just about diversity and bitching about cis males>She intends to formally incorporate Debian in the US, which would force Debian to introduce age verificationHer only claim to fame is organizing DebConf23, an event where a Debian developer literally fucking DIED because basic health & safety measures were not followed.The election is underway right now, and Debian is FUCKED unless the Debian developers all vote NOTA (None of the above). Current DPL Andreas Tille has proposed rejecting all non-signed emails after the goyim redpilled too many voters in the mailing list kek.
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When will you realize that Debian was a lost cause more than a decade ago? It was infiltrated by Red Hat ever since the systemd debacle in 2014. All the Debian old guard went to Devuan.Enjoy your elections, I doubt it will change anything no matter the result.
Switching to devuan
>>108558885Devuan still uses the Debian repos, it just blacklists systemd. If Debian goes to shit, Devuan will too.
What do I switch to then
>>108558870Why must we play this game of "It's over. Time to move somewhere else" every single time? So many good projects with important roles get taken over, and just leaving and letting them do whatever they want is literally just letting them win. I don't understand why this culture of giving up is so prevelant, but it's why things are so bad right now.
>>108558603>Current DPL Andreas Tille has proposed rejecting all non-signed emails after the goyim redpilled too many voters in the mailing list kekhttps://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2026/04/msg00001.html
>>108558999there is a lot more work done in devuan than just using debian repos without systemd, and in the eyes of the devuan maintainers debian already went to shit, which is exactly why the project exists.
>>108559214They used patch packages to remove their dependence on systemd but now they dgaf and just blacklist anything that has systemd as a dependency.
>>108559076Have you thought of contributing to give your opinion some weight? Maybe improve Debian for everyone in the process? Of course not, you entitled manchildren wants to dictate how Debian should be run but refuse to do the work required to become the leader.
>>108559308>refuse to do the work required to become the leaderI don't have a vagina, so I'm disadvantaged compared to Sruthi who can just push her husband's commits under her own name to get street cred.>most female Debian developers are the wives of other developers
>>108559338No, you're disadvantaged because you're retarded and lazy, quit making up excuses for your pathetic existence.
>>108559352Why should I have to participate in a project that advantages Sruthi? The other Anon was right that moving to another distro is the best choice. Debian will be long fucking unfixable by the time anyone in this thread will have risen through the ranks enough to become DPL.
>>108559368Because actually participating is the only way to enact changes, do you really think whining anonymously on 4chan is gonna affect anything?
>New Debian Developers/Maintainers from Nov–Dec 2025 https://bits.debian.org/2026/01/new-developers-2026-01.htmlSruthi saw that and was like "Needs more jeets!"
>>108559407I question the premise that we have a responsibility to contribute to Debian, rather than to other distros that are already more accommodating.Why Debian? How long do you estimate it will take to rise the Debian ranks? Will Debian still be salvageable by then?
>>108559462You're free to keep being a leech but that's the thing about parasites, if your host shrivels up and dies you have no choice but to die alongside it.
>>108559308Why contribute to Debian when you could contribute to Devuan?
>>108559214Devuan was forked because they had a melty about SystemD. That's it. You're still codebased on all the upstream, so if Debian goes to shit, unless Devuan is going to "hard fork" it's going to shit as well.
>>108559532Because Devuan is just a badly made copy of Debian? You're free to contribute to whatever you want but if you refuse to contribute to Debian why do you make these threads trying to influence how Debian is run? Like what makes you think you're entitled to do so?
>>108559505How is contributing to projects other than Debian being a "leech"?
>>108559601>why do you make these threads trying to influence how Debian is run?You're not even replying to the OP (Me) lol. You're gonna find that these threads aren't a hivemind but do being together people frustrated with the state of Debian.
>>108559568yeah, it's like the chromium forks.they don't have the capability to fork all of debian's projects to make a new distro.at the end they'll be forced to do whatever debian decides. for instance if debian drops i386, they'll probably won't have the time/computing/people to keep it alive by themselves.
>>108559638bring together*
>>108559623Has Devuan contributed anything back to Debian? Maybe help them maintain an important but badly maintained packages? If they haven't then they're nothing but a leech distro.
>>108559660Who said Devuan is the only other choice? There's plenty of other stable distros to move to that aren't Debian-based.
>>108559642Firefox forks are the single biggest piece of cope in existence. All of them are just about: config edits for vanilla FF lol.
>>108559671If that's how you want to operate, just fleeing like a pussy every time someone you don't like takes over then be my guest, just try and stay out of Debian for good this time.
>>108559407then stfu already faggot>>108559568>had a meltyand go back
>>108559671List them then. Besides Devuan, The only stable, server suitable distro that I know is Alpine. Alpine it's great, but we don't have much choice of systemd-free server distros.