reason I am asking is that I find them visually very distracting and so I wonder what could possibly warrant that tradeoff (except for marketing purposes obviously, but is there any other reason?)

>>108563744
aura farming

>>108563762
as in personal branding next to potential paid sponsorship by mic company?

good point

>>108563762
but doesn't it make you look like some kind of retard?

srs question, I have one of those mics but I never use it because too self conscious about it

>>108563744
why would they use the audio from the video call? i imagine each participant is recording the audio on their end, and it's edited together after the fact

i always wondered about the mic boom stands, l see them even in anons posts here they seem big and bulky and annoying

>>108563796
>i imagine each participant is recording the audio on their end, and it's edited together after the fact
lmaooooooooo

>>108563744
>Have a home studio
>Have a decent quality microphone to record with
>Do a video call
>Use the microphone which is already set up and right in front of your face instead of changing your whole setup for one call just in case the high audio quality might be redundant

Anyway what are they supposed to use, a built in mic on their laptop? I get crazy noise floor and background noise off mine, and you can't control the distance so well. The audio quality would be noticeably worse even after going through a garbage quality audio call. Same for any other cheaper mic if maybe not quite so extreme. If you have a good mic then use a good mic, whatever happens to the audio quality after that is out of your hands.

>>108563744
Audio quality is far more important that video quality.
So if YouTubers want to invest in that even if it's just to show off I'm fine with it.

>>108563744
Shure SM7B is a massive meme astroturfed ever since the COVID lockdowns. Basically it's a Shure SM57 capsule in a bigger casing that you can mouth and have that "epic radio voice" or whatever.

To give you an idea just how much of a meme this mic is, people kept buying it together with a Focusrite Scarlett interface. Third generation to be precise, which had mic gain of 56dB. The SM7B requires over 60dB. This caused a massively overpriced meme combo of SM7B+Scarlett+Cloudlifter CL-1 to be the go-to for every inspiring shittuber. What the Cloudlifter is is an overpriced basic bitch passive gain booster that people bought into because they were too retarded to understand the basics of pro audio and kept buying an overpriced mic they didn't need with an underpowered interface.

Focusrite has since released 4th gen interfaces that have 69dB of gain to address retards who kept buying the SM7B to pair with it, but don't be surprised if some mouth breathing mongoloid still buys the Cloudlifter to go with it because "that's what all the popular guys use". Literal sheep, herd mentality bullshit. That's why you see this exact mic everywhere, people with more money than brains.

If you actually want to start a podcast and have good audio, you can do it way way cheaper. The SM57 is way cheaper and has been the go-to for US presidents since it released. Since 1965 to be precise. There's also the Rode NT-1 that's the best bang for the buck, and the newest iterations come with a built-in USB-C interface, so no need to buy a separate one with phantom power.

>>108563744
>which I would expect reduces sound quality
It's a cumulative effect.
If you start out with a noisy capture because the build in microphone is next to a fan and you can hear background sounds and compress it you end up with a hard to understand mess.
If you start out with a clean capture, just the voice nothing else, and compress it you end up with something perfectly understandable.

And improving the internet connections of everyone in the call is a lot harder than installing a few mike stands.

>>108563784
Only if your grift illusion is incomplete.
If you look like you're a 'professional', in a professional environment, then people won't really think twice about it.
If you're some bellend recording video on a potato with choppy framerate, sitting in your mum's basement, then people think "this guy thinks he's hot shit LOL"

>>108564935
After reading your post I expected that Shure SM7B thing to be €7000 or something.

>€ 388,-
Meh.

>>108564969
It's still ridiculously overpriced for what it offers. Not to mention that it kinda sounds like shit anyways, and you can EQ an SM57 to sound just like an SM7B because the capsules are so similar. And the EQ settings are "cut the highs, boost the lows", because SM7B has a "muddy" sound profile.
https://youtu.be/s372qfTc3-I
Point is, if you want to start a career on YouTube, there's a plethora of much more cost efficient options for your audio than buying into the SM7B meme that everyone else has bought in because it's "trendy" and "makes them look pro". For the price of a single SM7B, not including the necessary audio interface, you could get a dual audio interface and two SM57's for example. People just don't want to do research or learn about pro audio and only follow the herd in the race to the bottom that is making a career on YouTube.

>>108565003
>People just don't want to do research or learn about pro audio
And I don't blame them because the audio scene is full of audiophile wankers.
If it's good enough and doesn't break the bank it's fine.

And it does make sense to just buy the same microphone others are using since then you know what it sounds like.
There will always be just one or two models everyone default to.

visual cue for thumbnails

>>108565054
Pro audio scene is the antithesis of audiophile fuckery. There, it's all about audio science, down to understanding the limitations of the human ear. And there it's all clear: the SM7B is muddy, noisy and overpriced. Pro audio people will gladly point to a plethora of other options in the space, like the Rode NT-1 for example.
https://youtu.be/J-ziIpfSBB8
People should stop blindly following trends and do a bare minimum of research before they waste their money on scams like the Cloudlifter. First, if people only follow the surface level brand names and not the specs, they'll waste their money on it when the current gen Scarlett interfaces have enough gain for the SM7B that you don't need a gain booster. Second, if you're aiming to be a YouTube hotshot, you should be smart with your money, and the cold hard truth is that you can spend that SM7B money someplace else and get a much better bang for the buck without sacrificing on quality or dealing with silver $1000 cable lunatics.

>>108564935
no, I read that SM7(d)B are actually terrible mics, very quiet and such

>>108565219
The SM7dB is something Shure released in response to all the idiots pairing the SM7B with underpowered interfaces and coping with the Cloudlifter. It has a built-in preamp and a raised price point, but again, if you go for the SM7B meme, going for a better interface with a better preamp solves the issue, and the newest Scarlett interfaces do just that.

Also in pro audio terms, a quiet mic is a very good thing to have, but it's not what the SM7B is. A "noisy" microphone means it has it's own noise, as in white/brown noise hiss passively showing up on recordings due to electrical interference. A quiet mic means the mic itself doesn't cause audible noise in recordings, and when paired with a quiet interface, you're left with clean, noiseless audio which is what you want.

>>108565240
while thats true, some claim that SM7dB has a technical advantage over separate cloudlifter

I dont know anything about mics though

>>108565240
by the way I fell for the meme and bought the SM7dB but I never use it because I feel like it was a stupid idea in the first place

>>108565248
>I dont know anything about mics though
So do people that keep looking at the SM7dB and Cloudlifter. They keep buying underpowered interfaces for a notoriously demanding mic.

Think of it like this, you have studio headphones that have 250, 300 or even 600ohm of resistance. They need a more powerful audio interface to be driven. If your audio interface is too weak, it'll limit the max loudness of your headphones. However raising the power of the interface can cause noise and interference, so a really good audio interface will be able to supply enough voltage to drive these headphones without adding any unnecessary noise or distortion. This is what you're looking for in audiophile hardware, and Audio Science Review is your friend. Topping is a Chi-Fi brand that dominates the market in terms of clean audio interfaces rn.

Same goes for XLR mics, they need what's called "phantom power" to work properly, and the audio interface is what supplies it. How good the interface is will depend on what mics it can drive properly. In case of the SM7B, people kept pairing it with the underpowered 2nd/3rd gen Focusrite Scarlett interfaces, which is why they kept buying the Cloudlifter. If they bought a better interface with >60dB of gain, they'd be able to drive the SM7B directly from it. Current gen Scarlett interfaces do just that. It's just a basic product spec check to avoid further headaches.

So the SM7dB is Shure capitalizing on idiots that didn't knew any better and kept pairing an overpriced mic with underpowered interfaces. A classic SM7B with a better audio interface will work, but you'll want to save your money and buy a different mic anyways.

>>108565295
even though I have the SM7dB, and never use it because it was a mistake, recommend me a good desk mic for calls and shit like that

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As for why studio headphones have such high impedance. They were designed to work with studio consoles, and these can send out a lot of power, but the high impedance of such studio headphones helps with reducing any noise that would come out of these consoles. You'll notice this especially with IEM's, that the more sensitive a driver is, the more it picks up passive noise from the audio interface.

The reason you hear everyone recommending studio headphones is because they're just that good. AKG K240's, released in the late 70's, used by all the big name artists from the 80's. DT 770/990 PRO, released in 1985. Sony MDR-7506, released in 1991, with the MDR-V6 being released in 1985. Sennheiser HD600, often referred to as the golden standard for neutral audio, 1997. Decades since they were first introduced to the market and they still hold up. Obviously they were meant for analytic listening for mastering, so they don't have a boppy fun V-shaped sound people are used to, but audiophiles like this form of analytic listening so that's why they like these headphones.

Open back studio headphones are also what you want for gaming. Open backs mean that they act more like speakers by your ears, which makes a huge difference in terms of imaging, which is the ability to pinpoint where the sound is coming from. Combine that with HRTF audio of modern shooters and the sound becomes a crucial element of the gameplay.

>>108565386
Depends on what form factor you want and what price point you're aiming for. A popular budget choice is Novox NC-1 and it's clones, it's a chink condenser mic that offers good audio quality, but if you want it to sound really clear you'll need to keep it close to your mouth. Still picks up your voice very clearly even if it's away during Discord kitten calls and such. If you want a proper mic then either the Shure SM57/SM58 or the Rode NT-1. Note that you can get the latter in it's newest iterations where you have an integrated USB-C audio interface to save yourself from the hassle of understanding XLR, dedicated audio interfaces, phantom power and so on. It'll still run you less than a fucking SM7dB, even after buying an arm for it.

You can also consider lavalier mics like the Sony ECM-LV1 or Rode's lavalier mics, but since those are cabled, if you want it wireless for ease of use you're either paying for wireless interfaces like all the pros use or buying those e-waste ones with built-in batteries.

>>108565402
my K240s broke in less than a year and i threw them away. shame, because these days i'm good at repairing electronics.

>>108565470
Yeah. I am thinking wired lavalier could be something for high inhibition person like me, I feel self conscious about big mics

>>108565386
Boya K3 is good chinkshit, not sure the price where you are but I got one for cheap as hell in China. Like $20 or something, crazy price for what is pretty decent quality.

>>108565482
Yeah it's worth noting how AKG was sold to Samsung in 2017, ex-AKG engineers went on to form Austrian Audio, and anything "made by AKG" since then is actually cheapo chinkshit made overseas, not the OG "Made in Austria" gear that made AKG the behemoth that it was. So you either look for used units made back then or you're getting a piss cheap pair of Superlux knock-offs.

>>108565538
i think this was around 2009

>>108563744
You want the highest quality you can going into the compression.
The worse the quality going in, the worse coming out.

>>108565548
so is it a lie then that high calibre mics are wasted on microsoft teams

>>108563796
only as backup and only the ones who know what they're doing

>>108564935
yes people are gorilla retards and falling for shills, for example le epin billie eillish is one of musictards go-to examples of a le humble home studio but they used AT2020 whereas the average musicnigger has no understanding of why anyone would want to use an AT2020, they want to use SM57 instead

>>108564969
musicfaggots are some of the poorest retards you could ever find in a first-world country, they insist on using plugins on their computer instead of spending a few hundred bucks on a used piece of analog gear. even the top-tier professional-grade neumann U87 is less than $4k.

>>108565954
>they insist on using plugins on their computer instead of spending a few hundred bucks on a used piece of analog gear
It's probably because even professional musicians sit in DAW's and find VST plugins to be on par with physical hardware, as well as surpassing it in many ways, and the ones using analog hardware use it as an addition to their workflow and not the core basis out of ideological loyalty to analog synthesizers.

But then again, I'm sure a random anon on /g/ of all places knows better than me.

>>108566032
delusional retard, at the very least they hire a mastering engineer who works in hybrid with analog outboard gear, you have absolutely no clue about how to make professional quality music, you're probably this boomer who is completely devoid of creativity yet claims to be interested in music production for some reason >>108527544, this one boomer has no life and trolls numerous threads all over 4chan

>>108566068
And you have nothing to say to me but insult my knowledge and intelligence without being able to back up a single thing you say so I have no reason to not thing you're yet another Dunning-Kruger suffering faggot that goes to /g/ to act like an insufferable cunt to pump your own fragile ego. Toodles.

>>108566076
you are literally delusional lmao, go ahead and keep practicing your instruments and your plugins, any day now you'll make a hit song, oh it's not a hit but it's still good because your mom says so and you just don't have the marketing budget to get it on the radio, KEK

>>108565386
Why do you not use it for calls? If you already own it why do you want to buy some other cheaper mic? Do you not have a mic arm and its inconvenient to use or something?

>>108563744
Radio reduced sound quality way more than modern streaming. Having a lower bitrate on an audio thing doesn't impact the general quality and dynamics of the sound.

>even professional musicians sit in DAW's and find VST plugins to be on par with physical hardware, as well as surpassing it in many way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmf0GHT_wXA
lmao

>>108566119
Didn't get a mic arm yet and keeping it hidden from my wife because Iḿ afraid she would ridicule me ant it would damage my self image

>>108566183
Just buy a high quality audio interface that pairs well with it or start playing guitar and keep it permanently pressed up against the amp grill. If you're wife calls you a faggot she just wants you to rape her (the Japanese refer to this type of woman behavior as Tsunami)

>>108566508
I have the SM7dB + MVX2U

>>108566159
>delusional /g/tards think pro musicians use nothing but analog tech to produce music because analog is king because of a single anecdotal example
lol
lmfao even
maybe post deadmau5' meme studio to prove me wrong

Everyone moved to digital track recorders the moment they were viable, with Dire Straits being one of the more notable examples of it. Same with moving to CD's ASAP due to them having superior dynamic range compared to the compact cassette or the vinyl, the entire industry ditched analog solutions the moment digital was as good, if not better, because it was cheaper and easier to use.
All the modern vinyls and all the vinyls dating back to like 80's were recorded and mastered digitally, so there is no "superiority" of the analog sounds on these, just digital recordings getting downgraded by having to lower the dynamic range so that the needle won't physically jump out of the grooves.

But of course /g/ knows better and no pros ever use DAW's or any digital form of music making. Same delusions as audiovoodoo wackos believing there's "analog" and "digital" sound, and "analog" obviously sounds superior because they've paid $10,000 for their setup.

Oh yeah, most importantly: a heapton of today's "superior" physical equivalents of these "inferior" VST plugins are literally just physical wrappers for those VST plugins. The audio processing done is still the exact same. Analog is only utilized for unique synthesizers and no one in their right mind would sit purely in the analog world when most of the shit can be done just as well with VST plugins and other digital processing.
https://youtu.be/NYV2-nv5mok
Truth is, if you are a shit musician, no amount of money spent on analog hardware will improve your work. You're either able to pull out creative tracks or you don't.

It's the same cope as investing thousands in meme keyboards in hopes of improving your typing speed, or investing thousands in gear to improve your gayming skills. Tools are only a physical cap of your skill ceiling, not it's definition.

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>>108566950
Nobody is reading this

>>108566967
>I refuse to read opposing opinions
So you don't know shit about fuck, as expected. Thanks for proving me right.

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>>108563796
>>108564645
>>108563744
here's the real answer: yes you use a video call but on a podcast recording website. That website records the sound (and sometimes video) locally in high quality, after the interview ends the software then uploads the high quality audio to the website and the podcaster can download the video file with the two audio tracks recorded locally

>>108566905
nice black and white thinking, i didn't say to use analog exclusively, even then many professionals would prefer to use an analog console like SSL 4000 and a studer tape machine if they had the time/budget, for example the one biggest example in favor of digital mixing is serban ghenea and he was lying about being fully in the box because he was still using a digital tape emulator that didn't exist in plugin form until relatively recently, the hit songs have analog gear being used before (max martin and numerous others use chandler TG-2 into 1176 to record vocals) and after him during mastering, no matter how good you think you are you're not making million dollar songs fully on a laptop, maybe if you're using samples from other songs that used analog gear