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What do you expect? Their products are not that way anymore. They don't want you using Hackintosh either. I'll be completely honest, if it supported the 9070xt and my 5900X (I guess it can support the CPU) I'd probably try it just for shits and giggles. I wanted to try some shit through Parallels to determine if macOS can run some very specific Windows software (not games) but this is the x86 version so it'll probably work differently. I don't know how x86 macbook users and the 2 people that use hackintosh still (I guess you're one of them) are holding up
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>>108571071
iTODDLERS BTFO
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It's been six years since the last Intel Macbook Air was released, Apple classifies Macs as obsolete after 7. Once Tahoe reaches end of life you join PowerPC and 68K on the isle of banished Macs.
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I don't see why anyone would want to use Hackintosh. The few advantage of macos like integration and stability are gone, so all you have left is a gimped useless os. Is it just for bragging rights?
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>>108572370
>Many years ago, the great British explorer George Mallory, who was to die on Mount Everest, was asked why did he want to climb it? He said, “Because it is there.”
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>>108572370
>integration and stability are gone
Unless it had changed not really.
I had hackintosh set up long, long ago on an old haswell intel CPU + AMD GPU (280X if I'm not mistaken) and it was dead stable. I remember using iCloud with zero issues and passing documents around with my X220 (also hackintoshed). I think it was only with new hardware at some point that things like power management became an issue for me. The point is the OS was the same, it just needed spoofing shit and a different bootloader. I even used apple peripherals on it just fine (I had a magic trackpad).
Nowadays it's worthless because Apple is killing x86 (I expected it much earlier to be quite honest) and newer hardware is largely unsupported anyways.
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Let me know once Tahoe runs in virt-manager/qemu and I'll install it
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>>108572408
>delusions of grandeur
installing macos is closer in nature to that whore that fucked 1000 men in 24 hours
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>>108572333
unlike powerPC and 68k intel macs have windows support
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x86 is deprecated. we just need the rest of the industry to catch up
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>>108572541
Windows NT runs on PowerPC Macs now.
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>>108572678
little-endian only
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>>108572678
usecase? it's outdated and useless. you can install windows 10 on a 2007 intel mac while powerpc macs can't even run modern linux
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>>108572731
> powerpc macs can't even run modern linux
anon, i...
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>>108572702
They still made a special HAL for it to work.
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>>108573309
i know, and i appreciate the effort. i'm just sad about POWER4 — POWER7 being big-endian only
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>>108572504
it already does, but it's fucking unbearable, like any modern macos version, especially tahoe
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>>108573224
Where'd you get the cleanice theme? Does it work well on xfce?
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>>108571527
Yeah I was gonna set one up last week but was disappointed to see no support for the 9070xt, I didn't realize apple pretty much already dropped support for their last x86 mac pro workstation.
I think I remember reading that apple's hypervisor (used by Parallels) doesn't work on AMD CPU's, so unfortunately you wouldn't have been able to try it even if the GPU worked.
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>>108573224
i kneel
watched the ionic1k video about putting gentoo on a powerpc mac and didnt think it would be usable
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>>108573224
Funny I'm wrestling a ppc32 gentoo install right now with 6.18. Getting the "bootdisk" to work with open firmware was a nightmare, basically you can't touch or mount the fs in linux at all or it will shit itself. All the guides tell you that BootX is "oldworld mac" and the 2002 quick silver should be a "new world mac", yet you need the BootX script for it to show up on the boot disk selection menu.

I had to move grub and the kernel to a usb, boot into OSX10.5, move them into a /system/library/coreservices directory on the boot disk and redo all of their ownership and permissions, then run the "bless" command. Not just that vmlinux and the grub.cfg need to on that partition and also fixed inside OSX. Having a SATA to PCI card made it ever worse. I just need to fix my kernels USB config and I'll actually be able to login.
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>>108575087
yes it does, i've been using it for a decade already. however, it is not going to change much on modern xfce as it is a gtk2 theme and anything past 4.12 uses gtk3
> Where'd you get the cleanice theme?
MY_PN=gtk2-engines-${PN/gtk-engines-}
SRC_URI="
mirror://ubuntu/pool/universe/g/${MY_PN}/${MY_PN}_${PV}.orig.tar.gz
mirror://ubuntu/pool/universe/g/${MY_PN}/${MY_PN}_${PV}-${PATCH_LEVEL}.debian.tar.gz"


>>108575538
it is only usable if you have the will to fix the numerous endianness bugs in modern software. because of how unpopular and rare big-endian machines are nowadays, you can find regressions in different kinds of software, and things like firefox or especially chromium will not run at all unless you're patching it
patches do exist, but the community is quite small, and upstreams like google are not so willing to accept them

so far i managed to get the following things running on my machine:
- mesa (upstream is broken at the moment, but a very simple hack was enough to get it to work)
modern firefox (T2 SDE got it fixed, i used their patches on my system)
- telegram-desktop (does not even build on big-endian in upstream)
- lwjgl3, so i now have modern minecraft running (just because i thought it would be funny to run it on a 21-year-old obscure system)

i even put an nvme drive in there once, but i decided it wasn't worth it, as it occupied the space near the other pcie slots
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>>108575538
btw, i just googled and briefly checked out the video you mentioned, the guy used a much older model with 3 gigs of ddr1, so i'm not at all surprised if it was unusable for him.
even the lowest spec 2.0 dual-core model from late 2005 would be faster than that, and with a quad-core, you can expect performance comparable to early core 2 duo/quad machines. having more cache and more and faster ram really does help here
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>>108576589
2005 is really right on the edge between usable and not usable for modern purposes.
like an athlon64/pentium4 from 2004 isn't very comfortable just browsing the web nowadays, but a core2quad from 2006 can run cyberpunk 2077 over 30fps
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>>108572333
Means it's time to build your last Intel Hackintosh right now and load it with potentially useful stuff.
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>>108571071
>>108571527
>>108575411
If Apple sold macOS licenses for other computer systems I'd buy one.
But they're a hardware company so they'd never do that. Even if they did, they have some mad beef with nvidia so those GPUs would still be off the table.
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>>108576753
yeah, my point here exactly
though it's still crazy to me that "a 20 year old computer" is a damn core 2 duo nowadays
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>>108577597
If you think about it, it does not matter if it had two cores or not. What does matter is how hot, loud and power hungry it was. It is a 20 year old computer after all.
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That's karma for deciding to go with Apple.
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>>108577621
i don't care, and no, 65W is nowhere near being hot, loud, and power hungry
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>>108571071
x86 sucks
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>>108571071
Nigga lives in 2020.
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>>108571071
>hackintosh
apple barely cares about customers, let alone non-customers



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